Recap: Cavs 115, Clippers 102 (or, Hacking the System)
2016-01-22Today was a weird day. It started with a notice that one of my credit cards had been compromised. Then a parking ticket was waiting for me after lunch due to a malfunctioning meter. My plan to take off early from work to catch the majority of the Cavs and Clippers at home was foiled by a fender bender on the freeway. And, finally, my server glitched out and prevented me from accessing the C:tB website for much of the night. I wound up feeling like my entire day had been hacked by the universe at large.
Fortunately, the Cavs did not share in my ill-fortune, as they employed an entirely different method of hacking, along with a continuation of systematic ball movement and defense, to dispatch the Clips with relative ease. The only real glitch for them was the hot shooting of L.A.’s potent guard rotation of Chris Paul, J.J. Redick and Jamal Crawford, but they were able to counteract that with a brute force attack of their own on the boards and nets. And, while my preference when watching NBA games is for them not to devolve into long periods of large men unsuccessfully attempting endless free throws, as long as the league is determined to stand by and allow games to be hijacked with nary a rule change in sight… teams might as well take advantage. At least my DVR didn’t fail, so I could skip the barrage of bricks…
Multi-User Operating System
After the crash of Black Monday, and the hard reboot against the Nets on Wednesday, the Cavs’ offense was finally back and humming along against the Clippers. In the first quarter alone, all five starters received multiple touches and seven Cavs scored. The ball was whizzing from one side of the court to the other, and all but three of their 11 baskets in the period were assisted. J.R. in particular had his shot wired in from the start, draining two deep threes, and hitting four of his first five attempts.
Meanwhile, the Cavs’ big three were masters of multi-tasking, as they combined for 13 points, five boards and three assists. Even though Kyrie had to sub out early after some early foul trouble while guarding Chris Paul, Delly backed him up, dropping in a pair of floaters and dishing a pair of dimes. The guys in the home whites were in constant motion, cutting to the ball and looking for the extra pass. Even Moz got off to an assertive start. Unfortunately, the Clippers were able to keep pace, as CP3 racked up points faster than a CPU (he scored 12 straight during a four minute stretch). He also attacked the Cavs’ defense like a malware program, spreading out the damage with four assists in the quarter, including one on a Jamal Crawford shot that grazed the rafters at the Q to give L.A. the lead after one, 31-28.
Micro Processors
The Cavs went ultra small to begin the second quarter, featuring a three guard lineup of Kyrie, Delly and Shump, along with James Jones and Tristan Thompson. This unit (with J.R. subbing in for Delly after a couple of minutes), after giving up a wraparound three to Crawford that capped his eight point solo burst, used their quickness, speed and defensive intensity to outscore the Clips 11-4 over the next four minutes of the frame. Kyrie chipped in seven in the period with two assists, and was able to not only keep the ball moving, but also helped put the Clips over the limit by drawing fouls. TT abused Cole Aldrich inside, using his multi-purpose ability to clean the glass and get to the line. He hit four straight free throws at one point to give the Cavs the lead. CP3 checked back in to relieve an overmatched Austin Rivers, and scored four quick points, but the Cavs countered with LBJ and KLove. Kevin got to the line and Bron got to the lane twice each… including this nifty touchdown pass…
J.J. Redick did his best to corrupt the Cavs’ expanding lead with a six point jag at the end of the quarter, but the wine & gold kept the ball moving, resulting in an easy 5-footer for Moz and a layup for Delly. KLove got to the line one more time by backing down the corpse of Paul Pierce to close the scoring. Cavs led 59-50 at the half.
The Firewall And The Hacktivist
For the first half of the third quarter, Timofey Mozgov made his presence felt. He solidified things under the hoop and provided the last line of defense required to help prevent unauthorized access, and change the direction of shooters and basketballs alike. Moz even rejected the Truth’s final attempt of the night… sending him to the bench scoreless (0-5). And, on the flip side, Timo continued his offensive output, knocking down a couple good looking jumpers (to go with a free throw) for seven points in the quarter. He even got a high handoff from LeBron that he threw down with authority…
CP3 and Crawford cut the Cavs’ lead down to seven with back to back buckets after the Cavs went a little stagnant and let up on their defensive pressure, but J.R. Smith once again re-defined the term “halt and catch fire” by hitting the fourth of his six triples in the game. Still, not wanting to take any chances, David Blatt sent his designated “hacktivist” Champ into the game to start bearhugging the charity stripe offender, DeAndre Jordan. Despite having Cole Aldrich at the scorer’s table, ready to end the carnage, Doc Rivers curiously left his big man in to suffer (along with the viewing audience) through the inexorable final two and a half minutes of the period. While D.J. clanged five of his eight freebies off the iron… in between, LBJ tossed in seven points on the other end to push a nine point lead to 16. Cavs up after three, 88-72.
Hacking The MotherBoard(er)
The Cavs didn’t quite go as ultra small to start the fourth as they had to start the second quarter, keeping KLove and TT in to join the three guard unit of Kyrie, Delly and Shump. The results weren’t quite as good either, as they allowed the Clips to spam their way back into the game with a stretch of lazy defensive rotations (looking at you Kyrie), questionable shot selection and plain old bad luck (TT had a putback slam that was ruled basket interference and probably could have gone either way). Kevin Love did get a timely steal that led to maybe the slowest clear path chase down foul in history… although he could only convert one of the free throws. Despite letting L.A. cut the lead down to six, this unit did buy about five minutes of game time rest for LeBron. Once he checked back in, LBJ found Love for a crucial corner three that stopped the Clipper run in its tracks. Not content to let the Clips get any momentum back, Coach Blatt once again resorted to the Hack-A-DJ strategy. In hindsight, maybe Doc should have encouraged DeAndre to don his Mother Hooper dress and wig… after all, maybe the Cavs would have been more hesitant to hack a lady… In any event, during DJ’s 1-4 abuse of the free throw line, LBJ dished out two more assists that ended in treys for both KLove and J.R., effectively ending the Clippers’ chances and hastening the advent of garbage time. Just before the benches emptied though, there was one more J.R. Swish that was a microcosm of the ball movement featured by the Cavs in this game… where all five guys touched the ball following a free throw miss…
J.R. SMITH ON FIRE🔥🔥🔥#CavsNation #Cavs #Clippers #NBA pic.twitter.com/TtLavJJHVG
— Cavs Nation (@CavsNationCP) January 22, 2016
The Evil Corp
The Clipper back court, and CP3 in particular, got pretty much whatever shot they wanted… at least in the first half. The Cavs did tighten things down a bit in the third, but overall L.A.’s top three guards shot 23-40 (5-12 from downtown) for 63 of the team’s 102 points. Chris Paul absolutely shredded whoever tried to guard him, and added nine assists to his tally. Granted, the Clipper guard trio has been lighting up most of their opponents during this Blake Griffin-less stretch of games, but the Cavs are going to need a better defensive effort from their back court than what they showed in this game.
Though the Cavs didn’t have a ton of turnovers, the ones they did have came from unusual places. The primary ball handlers (Kyrie and LeBron) only had one between them, and that belonged to KI. Kevin Love had a game high five turns, Delly had an uncharacteristic three, and TT also had a couple. The carelessness probably kept the game a little closer than it could have been.
A bit of the malady that nearly bit the Cavs in the Rockets game last week appeared again briefly in the fourth quarter. Weary legs may have been part of the reason, given the back-to-back situation, although it might have also been the Cavs just taking their foot off the gas a bit too soon against a good and still dangerous team. Bleeding away 10 points off a 16 point deficit, instead of holding or pushing the advantage is not a hallmark of a championship team. Thankfully, LeBron, Kevin and J.R. restored order before the lead evaporated completely.
I’ve never been a fan of the Hacking Strategy. I think it’s a ridiculous, unnecessary loophole in the rules of the game that has been exploited since the days of Don Nelson. But, until the NBA does something to change the rules, it will continue to be begrudgingly utilized by coaches to achieve an advantage when facing teams with woeful free throw shooters. Purists will argue that big men should just practice more, or shoot granny style… but I really just hope that it’s something that goes away in the near future.
There were some comments on the thread that there should be an asterisk next to this win for the Cavs, since the Clippers were without Blake Griffin. I disagree with this assertion for two reasons… 1) If you do that, then you’d have to put an asterisk next to every game the Cavs lost without Kyrie; and 2) The Clippers were 10-1 prior to this game when playing without Griffin during this stretch, and are playing some of their best basketball of the season.
The Genius Bar
The systematic ball movement by the Cavs for the majority of the game was superb. The ball whipped side to side, cross court, and both inside and outside for easy looks and buckets. There were a ton of hockey assists and extra passes to find the open man, and the ball rarely stuck or stopped moving. The Cavs wound up with a terrific total of 29 assists, 12 of them coming from LeBron against zero turnovers. When this team shares the ball, good things are bound to happen.
The Cavs not only dominated the Clips 29-19 on the assist front, but also on the glass 47-35 (14-8 offensive) and on points in the paint 42-34. They let CP3 go off from mid to close range, but held L.A. to just 24% from beyond the arc. Meanwhile, the Cavs shot a robust 50.6% from the field, and 46% from downtown.
Everyone in the starting lineup had a pretty terrific night. They all hit double figures, and were all positive on the +/- ratio. The bench was outscored (not a huge surprise with Crawford coming off of theirs), but wasn’t needed as much with the production of the starters.
LeBron had a pristine, efficient and stellar outing, shooting over 50% (9-17) for 22 points in 35 minutes. He pulled down five boards and had an amazing night handling and distributing the ball with 12 assist to no turnovers. He was patient and got the ball to his teammates in locations on the floor where they could thrive and succeed. He was a leader in every aspect on the floor.
Kevin Love had his second stand-out game in as many nights. He played with energy and assertiveness, putting up 18 points on 10 shots, with 16 boards. He also drew fouls and got to the line eight times, making seven. Any night the Cavs can get this kind of output from KLove should result in a W.
J.R. was en fuego in this game. He out shot maybe the hottest three point shooter in the league (not named Curry) in Redick, and seemed locked in on both ends of the court. Give him a remarkable 8-12, and 6-7 from deep in the Q! Honestly, if Earl doesn’t get an invite to the Three Point Shootout in Toronto for All Star Weekend, there should be some sort of organized protest. The dude is showing himself to be one of the best ever…
Kyrie got into some foul trouble early, and had a hard time staying with CP3 (who didn’t?), but stuck with it, and started to get his shooting touch going as the game wore on. He seemed to have more success on both ends against Doc’s kid (who doesn’t?), but he still wound up with 21 points… even if it took 18 shots to get there. It seemed like another step in the right direction offensively, although he does have moments where he loses focus on D. I loved that he was looking to get the ball down low to KLove more often as well.
This was another strong game for Timo on both ends of the floor. It was obvious that his confidence started to grow as he knocked down jumpers and even got a couple of throwdowns off of high handoffs from both Kyrie and Bron. He and TT combined for 19 points and 17 boards, and together they manned the middle well, shutting down the Clipper bigs. The only downside was the penetration allowed to CP3 and Crawford, although that did clear up a bit in the third quarter.
Coach Blatt continues to tinker with his matchups and rotations (in a positive way I think), and made some good adjustments throughout. The ultra small ball lineup featuring James Jones at the 4 and TT at the 5 worked really well to kick off the second quarter. And even though the alternate small ball lineup to start the fourth didn’t work quite as well, it still bought a measure of rest for LeBron. As stated above, I’m not crazy about the hacking approach, but clearly Blatt executed the strategy at the correct moments where it was most effective, taking the Clips out of their momentum as they were closing the gap.
Parting Shot
Blatt also gets points in my book for standing up for his players in his pre-game comments, where he was fiery in pushing back against the national media narrative about his team’s shortcomings following the embarrassing loss to the Warriors…
“I hear a lot of far-reaching conclusions and personally I don’t like it, but there’s nothing I can do about it,” Blatt said before the game. “Because I’m not the one that’s saying or doing those things. I think this team has done pretty well dealing with the adversity that we’ve had. I think this team is in pretty good position, although people choose to overlook that, which I don’t think is fair.”
Good for you coach… I like it when you get fired up!
GO CAVS!
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Fricking unbelievable. So what happens if they go in the tank with Lue? Sounds like a load of dirty political bullshot to me…
There has to be a much much larger story going on with the Warriors loss being the final burst
WOJ says Lue has agreed to MULTI YEAR DEAL as new head coach!?!?!?!? Holy SH*T!!
Does this mean there really was something more going on behind closed doors?
I just… who… what… how… is this real life?
I told everyone last night: FIRE BLATT!!
I am totally stunned by this. Unwarranted.
WOWWOW Im SHOCKED
We fired Blatt…wtf???
WTH?!
Trade LeBron James: Is it that unthinkable? Peter Krouse
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/01/trade_lebron_if_only_it_were_p.html
LOl!!!!!!!!
So does Walton get a head coaching gig based off his performance (39-4)? Did he do anything but preach Kerr’s mantra and motivate the team? Or was he the key to the 39-4 record?
Does he coach the Cavs into a GSW-stopper next year?? (bold font slash s)
Absolutely! He will have lots of opportunities.
The hack-a-whoever doesn’t bother me a whole lot, but I’m also not a fan of the Clippers nor do I watch them regularly. At the same time, I don’t really care if they change the rule or not. It doesn’t bother me either way.
Was listening to the Lowe Post from Wednesday with David Thorpe. A couple things, first Thorpe referenced Mike Fratellos 8 ways to defend a P&R, and noted that the Cavs have only tried a couple of them. And therefore should experiment on other teams as practice for a potential match up in the finals with GS. Second, they threw out some fake Love trades, (a) Love to Detroit for KCP, Ilyasova, Morris, and a 1st. (B) Love to Boston for Crowder, Lee, and another piece. I would prefer to try and work it out with Love, but option (a) isn’t… Read more »
Nope. There are no reasons to do this.
The Cavs are 46-6 or something nutty when the Big Three play together. They were up 2-1 on the annoying GSW in the Finals without the Big Three.
The Cavs are fine. Any trade and all the psychoanalyzing BS is a complete overreation to monday’s game.
So what exactly is the harm at experimenting with alternative ways to defend the P&R?
I’m talking about the trades.
Maybe Cavs should hire the Czar as a consultant to help with the PnR…
Also, I really don’t think they’d trade Love unless they fail to win the title this year… and if they ever did, they most likely wouldn’t trade him within the division, or even within the EC…
I don’t either and I don’t think they were advocating this.
Probably not… it’s entertaining to discuss trade scenarios this time of year… Cory might actually crash the trade machine website with his IPhone 6… ;)
With the Cavs record and performance this year, I can’t see them falling anywhere in the Eastern playoffs. That means they have a legit chance to win the title with some tweaks. No one has proposed anything regarding a top end player for Love. Just a bunch of pieces that wouldn’t necessarily stop GSW or the Spurs any better than the current Cavs can. I say they live with what they have now. Sure if there is a trade to bring in a guy and dump MDN or Kaun or JFJ or the ghost of smokin Joe then okay but… Read more »
If the League decides against the hack-a-whoever strategy., while they are at it, they should also ban opponents involving K Love in a PnR defensively. I mean why would you make DeAndre and Drummond and Bogut so much more valuable undeservedly, make K Love too. My point is a player should not be bailed out of his limitations, he has to work to better them.
It’s not about bailing players out of their limitations… it’s about improving the general watchability of the games… All due respect to Dave Blatt and every other coach who employs it as a strategy… but it’s a poor substitute for actually having your team play good defense…
And honestly… I really really really really really REALLY don’t want to watch it… and I’d bet 99% of NBA fans would agree if they were being completely truthful and not hiding behind “it’s part of the game” purism…
Thank-you. It solves a problem with the game.
By the way… read Tom Pestak’s proposed solution earlier in the thread… Now THAT’S a great idea!
Yep.
People need to stop treating this like the NBA has never changed a rule since Naismith pounded a baset into a pole in 1902 or whatever.
Of course they have and they will again in the future. This one is just the wrong one to change and thats the reason it hasnt.
No… it actually hasn’t because there are too many coaches who would rather exploit a loophole than actually have their teams work hard to play defense… If it was just up to Silver, he would have most likely changed the rule when he took office…
Coaches exploit loopholes all the time. Its part of their job. If you are a terrible three point shooter noone will guard you at the arc. If you are a poor pnr or post defender everybody will attack you. If you are a bad free throw shooter everybody will foul you. Its simple as that to me. And its not like we are asking them to become Mark Price, just become TT level bad.
It’s also part of their job to get their teams to play good defense…
And to your point… nobody forces bad three point shooters to take those… why should they force bad free throw shooters to go to the line unless they are actually trying to take a shot near the basket?
I did read it and it just wasnt good. You still bail out the poor free throw shooter. Work your behind off and get to 55%. How is that for a solution? I also dont like the two minute mark, because if say Shaq couldnt have been in late in games, it would probably force him to do something about it. As for the unwatchability aspect, you are correct. Clippers-Rockets were unwatchable last year, but so are the Sixers. Should the league do sth about them too?
Ugh.
I can’t stand this view. The NBA has changed the rules hundereds of times. It does nto lead to anarchy or changing other rules. It’s changing one freaking rule.
Stop. there is no slippery slope argu,ent. It’s an aspect of the game that sucks and needs to be fixed.
Disagree… you don’t bail out the poor free throw shooter, and you make it challenging for his team to avoid. It’s actually way more interesting and basketball-centric than the current exploitation of a loophole in the rules…
And no, I dislike your solution. I just don’t care to watch these guys at the line. If it were up to me, I’d abolish free throws altogether. Most boring part of the game. And the Sixers actually aren’t unwatchable… especially lately. They’ve been competing pretty hard…
I was referring to the sixers in general over the past 3 years. And taking away free throws altogether? Then we are talking about a did fferent sport. Also, regarding Toms idea, it would make for some bad TV as well. The one I actually liked was the one suggesting counting intentional fouls double, as it would only reduce the amount of hacking without eliminating it.
A sport that I’d certainly enjoy watching more… And how would Tom’s idea make for bad TV? It would actually be the inverse and make it more exciting… certainly more watchable than the bearhugs and slow walks up the floor to an uninteresting parade of bricks…
I like it because it takes something silly away but leaves a chance for additional strategy that thinking coaches would love.
I was referring to the sixers in general over the past 3 years. And taking away free throws altogether? Then we are talking about a did fferent sport. Also, regarding Toms idea, it would make for some bad TV as well. The one I actually liked was the one suggesting counting intentional fouls double, as it would only reduce the amount of hacking without eliminating it.
I’d rather watch a Sixers practice session against themselves than another hack-a-palooza…
The Fan just reported that JR was cleared on any wrong doing from that New York incident where a 19 year old claimed JR choked him.
As a rule, I largely throw out most of what teenagers say. I’m a high school teacher and I’ll tell you what, they can be downright absurd sometimes haha.
what do you teach?
Did anyone know that Josh Smith was traded back to the Rockets by the Clippers? I was wondering why he wasn’t on the court last night.
LoL I just asked that exact same question 3 posts up. Clip fans think he is in the doghouse with Doc. I have no idea why I don’t follow Clips closely.
Update: Looks like you are onto something. Hoops Hype reporting Josh Smith did get traded back to Houston 50 mins ago .
Darryl Morey knows who his glue guy is… Rockets are BACK! /s
Now all they need is Pablo…
why didn’t Smith get picked up by the Kings…George Karl could have his own kind of Big 3: Cousins/Rondo/Smith /s
1. no more hack a. Need Silver to put a stop to this nonsense now. It’s easy and there are numerous solutions
2. This team is great. Let’s stop pretending it’s not. NO MORE PANIC>
It terms of greatness, where do they stand up next to the Spurs and Warriors?
Right now? It would seem just below. But when the team is healthy and has gotten into playoff mode? We shall see, but I like our chances.
I concur, solidly #3 overall, #1 in the East. A whole lot of bball to play.
Dave McMenamin: A guy you could see in a Cavs uniform by years end is Joe Johnson, but it would take Brooklyn buying him out
If Brooklyn buys out his contract, does that mean he could sign a brand new one with the Cavs? One not so clunky?
He could sign a vet min deal.
I would take Joe Johnson for vet min. How’s that for bench production? I think he’d do well with Delly at the helm keeping the offense flowing.
I just don’t know that JJ has much, if anything, left in the tank…
Basically this. Take him for vet min, but nothing more than that. He is pretty much done, and I wouldn’t expect much of anything from him.
yeah for the Vet minimum I’d take almost any wing player. But not Lance Stephenson.
How about Rashard Lewis or Hedo Turkoglu? /s
Channing Fry could be another guy….
So how does that help them beat the GSW? I mean that’s really the only reason they need to make a trade.
BTW Josh Smith on the Rockets.
Blarg. We can beat GSW with our current roster.
I’m playing devil’s advocate to the guys pressing a trade. Joe would be like the 8th man right? How does that matter when everyone’s fear is getting blitzed by the GSW? He’s fading fast too.
I would say his defense would be a problem. I’d rather get another guy like Shump, but I don’t know of any defensive specialists available.
I agree. I don’t think anyone they acquire from the that list of potential guys really moves the needle. They would need a lot of time to work them into the system anyways. Is Joe Johnson a good defender?
It was weird Doc didn’t play Josh Smith. What was up with that?
I agree with the remarks to give Blatt props on his differing line-ups. One Clip reporter remarked , ” Paul scared Cleveland Head Coach David Blatt into some twisting rotation machinations to keep Kyrie Irving away from the nightmare duty of guarding an inspired Paul” Blatt didn’t waste a lot of time to make that move. There were times in that 2nd half Kyrie was more like the backup PG guarding Rivers than Chris Paul. Pride didn’t matter, Cavs wanted the win. I got a chuckle on twitter when Clip fans wondered when did JR learn to play defense.
Stellar recap guy. I need to find some time to check out Mr Robot. Love’s play the past two games is what we’ve always wanted out of him, and with Kyrie bot getting voted in, Love should be named a reserve for the ASG.
Mr. Robot is good. It’s not great, but pretty freaking good.
Mr robot takes a relatively common storyline and makes some great art. I love some of the shots in that series.
I sort of wish it was a one season thing though. I have very low hopes for the upcoming season 2.
Good enough to win the Golden Globe…
Thanks man… Mr. Robot is a real treat…
Dave McMenamin: Blatt won’t be back next year if the Cavs don’t win a championship this year.
Hmm, is this conjecture or does he claim sources?
It’s stated in a podcoast, so he didn’t give sources but he seemed pretty matter-of-fact about it.
Link? I didn’t know McM did podcasts.
Per above, it sounds like he’s on the Hey WIndy podcast today…
I agree with this. Title or bust.
Even if we miss it by a game? What if its a close game too?
Eh. We can evaluate that later.
Seems possible. Depends on how it shakes out, IMO.
Kyrie, Love, and LeBron have only played 52 games together.
Wonder what their record will be once they hit 82 games together… wouldn’t it be ironic if it ties or beats the Bulls season record?
Hey Windy is with Dave McMenimen today. Apparently, after the Dubs loss the players had their own festivus, airing of grievances, and Dave noted that it is no coincidence that Mozgov is getting more minutes to help boost his confidence.,
GET RID OF HACK A WHOEVER RULE MR. SILVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cavs should evoke hack-a-curry, I’d rather he gets a 2, than a 3 and slow down the pace.
Just make the hack count.
More like Jack a Curry before he jacks a 3!
Only if they use machetes… /s
With all the angst about Love fitting in here is the season-to-date comparsion between Lamarcus Alrdige and Love.
Aldridge: 15.9 pts/8.9 boards/1.3 assists/19.6 PER
Love: 15.5 pts/11.0 boards/2.4 assists/19.2 PER
Yes, Love lapses on defense sometimes, but this comparison was an eye opener for me since both players have had to make similar sacrifices on better teams.
Yep. Love>Aldridge.
It’s the media. The media sucks. Eph em
Cavs are still really really good.
Great point about the media narrative. BUT LA is playing solid defense for the Spurs. The best of his career. Granted, every player improves on that end when he joins Pop. Still, we can’t just gloss over the defensive end of the floor.
And yet!! Most advanced stats actually show Love to be more effective on defense this season than LA. Yep, I’m surprised. I won’t say Love is necessarily better than LA, but I admit that they are having comparable seasons.
I have been a big proponent of the Love v LMA comparisons. The media rave about LMA on offense, and always rip Love, but Love’s TS% has always been well ahead of LMA. Even this year with Love’s TS% down, he is at 54.4% and LMA is 52.9%. Career Love is 56.4 and LMA is 53.2.
It’s crazy mow much criticism Love gets and how much love LMA gets.
I got a good LOL when I found out Diarrhea-mond Green wasn’t voted an All-Star starter!
And was outvoted by ZaZa Patchouli Oil too…
Also too (sorry got a lot on my mind), I just want to say it was refreshing to hear Mike Fratello on the commentary tonight.
Agreed. I just can’t listen to Jeff Van Gundy. I always mute the sound when he is on a broadcast.
It sure was. Though I did feel bad for Clip fans. Gone is the day of balance . Cavs got trashed by JVG/Webber duo in Spurs, Golden State game and even in Rockets game relentlessly. Fratello stuck with talking about the game at hand . He wasn’t going to allow Marv to side track the game with silliness & more Golden State talk. It’s clear the Cavs have to get better ball movement and he praised almost every play they did that. There was very little talk about the Clippers You have to marvel what Chris Paul can do.
Yeah, it probably wasn’t enjoyable for Clips fans, but I thought Mike was pretty even handed.
You don’t have to tell me about CP3. I went to Wake Forest the same year he did. He was incredible then and has just been so steady ever since. One of my dreams was to see him in a Cavs uniform.
Yeah… Nate mentioned this on the Live Thread, but it was really cool to hear him tell that story about Vitaly Potopenko and how he came to be in charge of working with Cavs’ big men as an assistant coach… The Czar sounds like he still fondly remembers his time as the head coach of this team… Great guy and informative commentator…
The Pride of Wright State University!
I was also wondering if someone knew; do NBA teams send if video to the league to question calls from officials like NFL teams do? Not that I am saying anything was wrong with the officials last night, but this goes back to the Warriors game and the general attitude towards J.R. Smith throughout the season. I would be very interested to know if teams are trying to push back on the questionable screening that some teams get away with. I would also like to see J.R. to be able to assert some physicality on defense without getting ticky tack… Read more »
Yes they do but to no avail. Blatt had said this about a month ago on questionable fouls.
The league basically says “Yes, that should have been a foul.” or “No, that wasn’t a foul.” And that’s about the extent of it. Nothing changes, nothing happens, refs still don’t call the Warriors for all of their lovely illegal screens. Its downright shameful when compared to the calls made against Dubs opponents. What can you do tho?
Did the league ever actually rescind the flagrant 2 on J.R.? Or did that stand?
Exactly. I picture that tape coming to the mail room with a trash can at the end of the table. Refs be laughing sipping their coffee, “Hey here’s another complaint. Into the trash you go” That same generic letter is sent to Cavs basically saying ,”So sad too bad but we are not going to do anything about it”
Great Recap. Love the theme. I think Love’s turnovers were more a factor of testing the offense than anything else. They were getting him the ball in post up position and he was whipping it all around the court. A few of the spaces he tried to get the ball through were filled by defenders. To go along with the theme of the recap, those errors will hopefully be logged into the memory. I am glad Blatt stuck up for the team. The way I see it, the Cavs lacked energy and focus against the Warriors almost the entire game,… Read more »
Thanks danz… true, that was a factor on the Love turnovers… although he did make a couple telegraph passes. More than anything I just found it interesting that Delly was the only true ballhandler on the team that had more than one turnover this game (and he still only had three)… meaning that they generally took care of it on the dribble…
Great recap. Great team. Solid win. Continued to be amazed at how good this team is despite the ravage of injuries and lack of continuity it has had. Really excited for the next several months of basketball as they peak for the offseason. I think the chemistry that we have seen in spurts will become more consistent, which will lead to growing confidence.
And if Kawhi and Steph happen to have season-ending injuries between now and June, all the better ;)
I meant “postseason” not “offseason.” Peaking for the offseason seems problematic.
Offseason has always been my strength – peaking for this is not easy, but can be managed with careful tapering.
Thanks Hot Sauce… now I really want a t-shirt that reads “Peaking for the offseason…”
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Great recap, EG. I thought the Cavs played well until their intelligence.exe process stopped responding I’m the first half of the 4th quarter. Took David Blatt forever to hit Ctrl Alt Del on that but it was nice to see K Love splash 2 large cups of coffee all over the Clips expensive Cherry Blue keyboard.
I think EG was right in that it bought them bench time for Lebron.
The beginning of the 4th was pretty rough. Turnovers, difficult shots, etc. But I also think LAC came out with an edge and took advantage of the lineups a bit, so they deserve credit. They were due to make a run at some point given that they were 10-1 in their last 11.
Great additions Tom! I knew there were at least a few hacking/computer references I was leaving on the table…
Awesome cap, EG! I’m not sweating CP3 going off. By my account, the Clips are the 5th best team in the league (sorry Toronto). He’s going to get his. They just had to limit the other guys. The bigs got the Clips nothing. You also forgot to mention that DJ had ZERO blocks against our big guys that get stuffed pretty easily. *Cue up that missed Love layup* /s It’s been over a month since he has been shutout and it’s only happened 4x total this season.
Thanks Dave… and good point on the zero DJ blocks… the Cavs bigs took the ball up aggressively all night…
Drummond is going to be the MVP of the hack-a death-knell movement….only he is destined to take it to the ultimate level of absurdity, and thus force a sane change. Bill James, in advocating some common sense changes to baseball, said the point of his proposed rules changes were to force people to stop screwing around, and play the game. Take note, NBA: stop screwing around, and play the game. I hope Drummond goes to the line 60 times in some game this year. Only by taking it to the utter limit can we get rid of this ridiculous practice.… Read more »
I’m not sure what the league can do about it. The solutions presented aren’t very good. Treat it like a clear path? That slows the problem but doesn’t eliminate it and it can be used to stop fast breaks. Choose a FT shooter? That will be totally F’d up by the refs who can barely figure out regular fouls. It can’t be a rule based on stats so how many fouls until the FT shooter choice is given?
IMO it’s on the coach to remove the guy who can’t shoot FTs.
Plenty of good ideas have been suggested. Kevin Pelton has offered several. It doesn’t take much to cut out this nonsense and play basketball. As far as guys who can’t hit FTs, they still hurt their team by not hitting FTs…they just shouldn’t be taking main stage in this beyond crappy mini game, while the actual game goes on hold.
Agree MikeO, just need a legit solution. Not ESPN coming up with drivel. What have you heard that sounds good?
The easiest solution is that the fouled player takes one shot (or two, whatever) and HIS team gets the ball back. As long as his team gets the ball back, there is ZERO incentive to employ the strategy. A guy could be shooting 1% from the line, but if you never get the ball back you have no incentive to foul him.
Agree… this seems like the best solution, and most in keeping with other intentional fouls in the current rulebook (e.g. clear path).
I think I have the solution.
Only allow off the ball intentional fouling in the frontcourt. If Deandre wants to hang out behind half court that’s his prerogative.
With your rules applied, why not just have the end of the Cavs bench bear hug DJ so he can’t come down court? It won’t be called and he can’t help his team on the other end.
Because why would you want to play 4on 4 when you can have a man advantage.
But in the event of a fast break you have DJ sitting back there protecting the rim.
I’m with Dave’s post on the idea that the coach just needs to adapt. I don’t love the hack-a-strategy, but I think it’s kinda ridiculous that people are advocating changing the rules for a known flaw in someone’s game. The fact that DJ or Drummond or Shaq (the OG of the “horrible foul shooting” gang) can’t shoot free throws is just a limitation of theirs. If you have a wing player who’s not great at dribbling, you scheme to get him the ball in a place where he can catch and shoot. If you have a terrible man defender, you… Read more »
It’s actually not changing the rules… but instead closing a ridiculous loophole in a rule that coaches have exploited since the days of Wilt the Stilt… This should have been nipped in the bud long ago…
Here’s a solution: Don’t call the intentional fouls, and allow the person being fouled to level the person fouling them without calling a foul on them as well. Hit me, I hit you back.
Shot in the dark, but what if they made off-ball intentional fouls count as two fouls against the player committing them? That would make folks think twice about using hack-a-strategy.
Anyway, I don’t mind the hack-a-whomever strategy. It’s ugly but I’m in the “make your free throws” camp — half these big-handed behemoths could probably shoot 65-70% if they just went granny style, they just don’t wanna look ridiculous doing it.
The hack a strategy sucks. NBA needs to do something about it soon, like this year. It’s the dumbest thing in the world and makes the game unwatchable.
I agree that the hack-a-strategy sucks. Makes the game downright unbearable. I do hate, however, any strategy that gives these players an “out”. I mean heck, if I can shoot a higher free throw percentage than them, I think that’s unacceptable. They are professional basketball players. Get a shooting coach and shoot 1,000 free throws a day (fixing your form not just repeating the god-awful one they are currently employing).
You cannot hit a higher percentage of free throws. Maybe in your driveway, but not in an arena with 20,000 people and many many more watchign you on teevee.
people need to stop acting like shooting free throws is simply a matter of practice. Deandre prob ably hits 80% in practice. Ugh.
OK. Here’s the solution. It makes the game better in so many ways. Ready? All shooting fouls are shot by…wait for it…the player in possession of the ball when the foul is committed. This cleans up the Hack a Whomever strategy without giving the player an out. If the Clip don’t want DeAndre shooting Free throws then they better not pass him the ball on offense. Because then any Cav could immediately grab the nearest player and DeAndre would have to shoot FT. But think of the OTHER way this improves the game. In end of game situations the opposing… Read more »
Tom… you’ve successfully hacked the system… I fully subscribe to this proposal and we should start a C:tB petition that we can send to the league office.
I think you sort of highlighted the flaw of your own system. It would essentially turn the game into 4 on 5. Nobody would bother to cover the bad free-throw shooter and could double-cover anyone who gets the ball. Even if the bad-shooter is wide-open, the defense could immediately hug whoever is getting double covered and the bad shooter would have to go to the free-throw line instead of getting the easy bucket. Why not have a limit on the number of fouls a guy takes before it becomes a technical foul? No more than 3 intentional fouls a game?… Read more »
Well if you think of a guy like DJ – he can set picks, he can dive to the rim and finish. I mean, anytime the guy gets the ball he’s basically trying to finish anyway. Might be a little stranger for a guard but very few guards would be a Hack a target (now that Bruce Bowen is gone). If they don’t bother to cover him he can dive to the basket unimpeded and throw down a dunk. We’re not getting rid of continuation rules. But what this would do is eliminate the awkward fouling away from the ball… Read more »
Yeah… 36 freaking free throws the other night vs. Rockets… maybe they were sending their own message to the league since they have two offenders with Dwight and Capela on their squad…
Thanks for the condolences… no major damage done, just a weird day…
Great recap, EG! Love the theme. Timo played outstanding basketball. His defensive positioning was consistently excellent. In the first quarter, neither Love or Bron properly crashed down on the PnR. The first dunk of the game was a result of a slow crash from Love. Timo, however, did his job all night. He prevented many lob opportunities and also forced Paul to the midrange game. Yes, Paul knocked them down with regularity. But that offense isn’t efficiently sustainable. The Clips got few open threes off ball swings because Timo was eating up the defensive paint. Once everyone else got on… Read more »
It was nice to see some energy and movement the last two games. I’m guessing playing with energy was something they emphasized after that lethargic goatrope on Monday.
I was curious (nosey) about that and visited a Clippers Blog. It was after a sequence in which Paul got away with some ticky tack cheap shots on Delly and Lebron (If you have noticed Lebron has had Delly’s back in the past and has given some hard fouls back from time to time when he sees too much cheap shots going on Delly wit Refs looking the other way) Delly had the ball in attempts to pass and Paul was hanging on DElly’s arm like a monkey bar swing. He got the ball and drove down court with DElly… Read more »
How do Clips fans know any better than us what that conversation with Delly was about? It looked a lot more like a respect conversation to me than anything else. Hmm, interesting. I generally like CP3. Plays hard, best two-way guard in the league. Cares about the game. Prefer him over LeBron’s other friend the DBag known as DWade.
They have their own local reporters like we do. You don’t think someone can pat you on the back with a smile on your face and tell you to calm down in a nice way? Not looking for debate here. Just giving a message.
It was interesting that DeAndre was trying to get in the middle of it also, so maybe it wasn’t as friendly as it appeared?
Thanks Ben! Great points about Timo… going back and looking again, you’re absolutely right about KLove and Bron not crashing down on the PnR… He really did have a very good game.