Recap: Pistons 96, Cavs 88 (or, don’t let the bed bugs bite)
2016-02-23Streaks are marked by a beginning and an end, and the Cavs winning streak and Pistons losing streak both came to a close when the final buzzer sounded. I’m not worried about the Cavs half-hearted effort, or a loss to a division rival at all. If these two teams meet in the first round in April, I can’t fathom Detroit taking more than a game from the Cavs; however, a few seasons down the road we could experience crippling deja vu to the 2009 loss to the Magic with them.
I always liked Stan Van Gundy, and never viewed him as being a classic retread coach. The construction of this Pistons team shows that he learned from his sins of the past in Orlando. As complimentary as Dwight Howard’s cast was, most of his peers’ primes didn’t coincide with his, and ultimately it lead to a reboot of the franchise, Van Gundy’s firing, and Howard’s exit. Andre Drummond is still just 23, and he has his bouts of inconstant effort. Perhaps in the short term, they the Pistons could go further in the playoffs with an older surrounding cast, but that’s the same failed philosophy that doomed the first era or the LeBron Cavs, and Howard Magic. The surrounding cast Van Gundy has built around Drummond is comprised of Reggie Jackson (26), Tobias Harris (23), Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (23) and Stanley Johnson (19). All have time on their side, and a higher ceiling than what Van Gundy had in Orlando. They could be a major issue in the very near future.
On the bright side, we were witness to Minnesota Kevin Love in a wine and gold uniform tonight, and it’s become a common occurrence over the past month. Tonight’s game may have Love deja back to his Twolve days too, as his stellar effort was overshadowed by his teammates inconsistent execution followed by a loss. You can make the excuse that the Cavs were tired after a back-to-back, but the Pistons were coming off of one of their own, even though their commute was much shorter, and they probably they got a bed bug free night of rest.
First Quarter
Kevin Love takes Harris down low and scores! #CavsNation #Cavs #Pistons #NBA https://t.co/HN2DzfCxEF
— Cavs Nation (@CavsNationCP) February 23, 2016
Kevin Love used his size advantage over Tobias Harris immediately, and bullied him in the paint for a turnaround hook. On the following Cavalier possession, Love drew a foul on Harris, and wasn’t awarded a trip to the line, even though it appeared he was in the action of shooting during the contact. After the inbounds, Love backed Harris down low again for another pair. Twenty four seconds later, Love set a pick for Kyrie, and rolled to the hoop, and Harris got lost during in the commotion, and Love drew a foul on Drummond at the rack. Love converted on both free throws.
Kyrie dribbled Reggie Jackson into submission and hit a fadaway from the elbow. Tristan Thompson’s hustle on the offensive glass a few possessions later kept the ball in the good guys hands, and Kevin Love opened the bank after hours, with a midrange jumper off the glass. Stan Van called a time out to talk things over. It worked.
At the midway point in the quarter the teams were tangled at 18. The Cavs defensive effort thus far was as lethargic as a sloth in a winery. On one possession, Love didn’t attempt to close out on Marcus Morris, and the good twin drilled a completely uncontested three. On the following Pistons possession, LeBron watched Reggie Jackson go for a layup, like a man with his hands on hips, eyeballing a freshly painted wall to see if it needed another coat of paint.
Ooooweee @KyrieIrving! Pistons lead 33-28 after 1Q.#CavsPistons BOX: https://t.co/8HU4TwTx2qhttps://t.co/I4ubBn9h5J
— Cleveland Cavaliers (@cavs) February 23, 2016
A TT rejection of a Harris drive led to a Kyrie Irving coast to coast up and under layup that maybe three guys in the league could have pulled off. LeBron drew Jackson off of a pick and roll switch, and backed him down into the paint. Three Pistons rallied to the aid of the little fella, and James found Love open in the corner for a three. Jackson’s retort was burring an open three on the other end of the court as Delly got stuck on Drummond while going under the pick. Love then hit a three from the opposite corner off of a pick and pop to bring his total to 14 for the first frame. Love’s brilliant first quarter performance was wasted as the Cavs backcourt was absolutely abused by Jackson and Caldwell-Pope for a combined for 22 of the Pistons points, and the Cavs trailed after one, 33-28.
2nd Quarter
Channing Frye made his Cavaliers debut at the start of the second quarter and he was flanked by Delly, RJ, Mozgov, and Kyrie. One of my favorite things about Lue’s rotations is that he doesn’t employ full hockey substitutions like Blatt did. They should always have one of the big three on the court during the first three quarters until the game in decided. I don’t care which one of them is out there with the zoo crew, but one of them needs to be at all times. Delly scored the Cavs first points of the second with a banking layup high off of the glass in traffic. Two possessions later, Kyrie drove to the right, and as the defense collapsed on him he kicked the ball out to Delly on the left wing, and Delly shot faked Steve Blake off the floor, and took a dribble into an 18-footer.
Mozgov set a Berlin Wall-level pick on Darrun Hilliard, and Kyrie drew a foul on Aron Baynes on his drive and converted both free throws. While it doesn’t really factor into the game itself, Baynes looks like a kid who cut his own hair. We’ve all done it. I want to say I was four. It made sense at the time.
Channing Frye found a trailing Moz with a pass soft enough that Timo actually caught it. With a sea of three Pistons around him, Mozzy hooked it in to cut the Pistons lead to four. Marcus Morris found himself in a lose/lose situation guarding Kyrie on the wing. He opted to play the drive, and Irving buried the jumper to cut it to a one point game. In transition, Jefferson found Kyrie on the wing before the defense could set, and Kyrie nailed the triple to put the Cavs up by two.
"🌀 on him Kyrie!"@MrCavalier34 is loving this #CavsPistons action on @FoxSportsOH.https://t.co/KfFAwn1QZQ
— Cleveland Cavaliers (@cavs) February 23, 2016
Midway through the quarter LeBron returned to the lineup, and on his first Cavs set he paired with Moz for a double screen for Irving at the top of the key on Steve Blake. A second later, Kyrie planted his right foot hard, and put Steve Blake into a blender with a spin move for an elbow jumper.
Kevin Love got plenty of rest after his first quarter offensive assault. On his first attempt of the second, he hit an off-balanced hook through the Harris foul, and converted the three-point play.
Delly justifiably earned the second flagrant of his career in the closing minute of the quarter as he fouled Drummond in midair to the floor. Any foul on a guy who is in mid-flight should be a flagrant. Drummond went on to miss both free throws. While I don’t think Delly is an inherently dirty player, I get where people are coming from in calling him one. He is as chippy as they come, and that’s a large part of his appeal. If he wasn’t a Cavs, we’d probably hate him too. If he’s gonna get credit for being a dirty player, I’m okay with him earning that rep from time to time.
Lue had Love intentionally foul Drummond to get the last possession of the half. Drummond then hit both free throws. After conceding two points on the scoreboard for the last possession, LeBron pounded the ball into the court for 20 seconds, and found Delly a second two late, which led to an off balance Delly prayer that wasn’t answered, and the Cavs went into the half trailing 56-49.
3rd Quarter
Reggie Jackson’s abuse of the Cavs backcourt continued into the third quarter as he stripped Thompson on a rebound, and beat a careless LeBron in transition with a hesitation crossover. A Harris running jumper on the next Pistons possession over Thompson promoted Lue to call a timeout two minutes into the half.
The Cavs scoring drought in the second half lasted three plus minutes, until Kyrie Irving drained a step back jumper over Jackson. On the following Cavs possession, Love fumbled the entry pass into the post, then regained control on the wing, and buried a three from the corner over Harris. His three was negated on the other end of the court after Morris drilled a three as LeBron watched from the paint without an attempt at a close out.
The Cavs trailed by 17 with five minutes to go in the quarter. At this very moment watching the game, let alone writing the recap, the entire process started to feel like a chore. They roped me back into caring with ball-movement started by a Love pump fake, and he found Delly for a trey from the corner. Two possessions later, Jefferson drilled a long two off of a Love screen.The Cavs cut the deficit to nine as LeBron found a wide-open J.R. Smith for an uncontested three on the opposite wing.
Jefferson fouled Drummond rather than concede the sure two on a dunk, and he missed both free throws. During the break in the action Frye made his second appearance coming in for Love. I can’t fathom they will spend much time together on the court, and that’s fine.
Fred McLoud lost his cool like a dad during a paternity test on Maury after Drummond wasn’t called a foul on a J.R. drive, and his fury was justified. Drummond was clearly coming forward, and he rejected Smith’s left arm, not the ball. If I drank a bottle of Jameson, and poorly wrote a detailed listing of everything I hate about the NBA, numero uno would be inconsistent officially determined by a player’s reputation. It’s 2016, not 1930. Players aren’t starlets, and a ref isn’t Louie B. Mayer. There should be no star system with NBA officiating. It should be consistent, all of the time, whether it’s a preseason game, or the closing minutes of The Finals. Period.
On the following possession, LeBron drove coast to coast and went straight at Drummond for the left handed layup, hoping to draw another foul on the big fella. In five minutes, they cut a 17 point margin to seven and trailed 75 -68 after three.
4th Quarter
Tobias Harris started the fourth with a three from the left wing. The years long debate over whether or not he’s a three or a four will be answered over the next few months. I’ve always fancied him as a small ball four, who could excel in the right situation. If he gets a smidgen better from downtown, he’ll be the perfect compliment to Drummond, and that’s absolutely terrifying.
As bad as the Cavs third quarter opening looked, it was a snow day reprieve from school compared to the futility they showed in the first five minutes of the fourth. It was seriously the worst basketball we’ve seen by them outside of when the players were throwing games to get Blatt fired. During those putrid first five minutes they missed their first 10 shots from the field, and ball movement screeched to a halt in favor of chucking up shots like a fat old man at the Y who was too tired to even attempt driving to the rack. As great as that 10-0 run was to close the third, they conceded it in the next six minutes, and trailed by 18 at the midway point of the quarter.
The Cavs mounted another comeback as Kyrie beat Jackson off the dribble for a diving layup. Kyrie doesn’t hit the deck as much as he used to on drives, and that’s certainly a positive that we’ve underreported. On the other end of the court, Kyrie quickly closed out on a Steve Blake three, which rattled out. It’s crazy how much worse the opponent shoots when you actually attempt to stop him. LeBron then drew a double team in the post and found Kyrie for a three from the wing, which led to a Stan Van TO.
LeBron with the steal and the slam! #CavsNation #Cavs #Pistons #NBA https://t.co/Kuk02dcoFw
— Cavs Nation (@CavsNationCP) February 23, 2016
Kyrie took Caldwell-Pope though the spin cycle off of a Mozgov pick and roll, and feed the big fella for a driving dunk. LeBron intercepted an under-thrown pass, and woke up the hibernating crowd and stuck the landing for a two-handed jam to cut the deficit to nine. LeBron then made his defensive play of the night diving to deflect of crosscourt Drummond pass, which led to Kyrie earning a trip to the free throw line off of a Harris foul. Kyrie split the pair.
After a switch on a pick, Morris was matchup up with Kyrie on the perimeter again. This time Morris played Irving a little tighter, and was promptly beaten off the dribble for a high banking layup off of the glass to make it a two possession game. Reggie Jackson finally broke the Cavs 12-0 scoring run with a driving floater which gave the Pistons a 10 point lead with just a minute and a half remaining. Mozgov extended the Cavs possession with a back tap, but it was too little, too late.
With 27 seconds left in the quarter Lue raised the white flag and made a hockey substitution pulling the starters. On the final play of a game that was lost quarters earlier, Delly feed Frye and he hit a turnaround jumper for his first points as a Cavalier. 96-88 Pistons
Yay
Kevin Love is on a revenge tour from being snubbed for his All-Star omission, and I’m excited for the ride. He looks healthy, and more confident than he has during his entire Cavs tenure. His shot has arc, and he had his moments on defense such as causing a shot clock violation on Morris in the third quarter.
After the game, coach Ty Lue said that he considered resting LeBron James on the backend of back to backs to prepare him for the playoffs. Many say that resting players robs paying fans of their hard earned dough, and they have a point. Efforts like we saw for 30 minutes of tonight’s game would make me feel ripped off too. If guys need rest, give them rest. If a game is truly lost because of effort, make a point and pull them.
Boo
After the Cavs loss to the Celtics in the 2010 playoffs, LeBron stated that he spoiled Cavs fans. Many took exception with his comments, but I totally agreed with him. There were multiple times I’ve gone to Cavs games and the crowd was dead. Tonight was one of those nights. I get that the crowd feeds off of the action on the court, but the fans were just as bad. I can’t imagine a crowd in Boston being that quiet. I’ve been guilty of it myself. I was three rows from the court for the Timberwolves game, and didn’t lose my voice. Perhaps, I was still in shell shock from the Blatt firing, or I just wanted the Lola to digest. I dunno.
LeBron is so consistently good, broken shot included, that bad nights like this one stand out as such a contrast. I’m not absolving him at all for his effort. He was absolutely terrible on both ends of the court to the broken tune of 12 points on 18 shots to go with six turnovers. Being the the leader of a team, comes with the cost of having the responsibility to set the tone though. That’s true in every facet of life, not just basketball, and it was his worst effort I can remember from him.
Until Wednesday folks.
I love this blog, but you guys bum me out sometimes. Didn’t read all the comments, but here’s what I see. Spurs, Thunder, in fact every great team other than the Warriors have had silly losses this year. Actually they have to, but that speaks more to the fact that they lost at all. It is a fact that pro athletes have bad games. That is what I saw, a tired team, some refs that swallowed their whistle and a bunch of shots that didn’t fall. The Cavs have shown that they can ramp it up several notches against the… Read more »
I think usually most of the people you say bum you out are the people that aren’t necessarily upset by losing so nuch as how we lose. It seemse like most every loss looks the same. We stop ball movement and guys start slacking on D. I think if we had a loss where we really played our game and still lose, many would be singing a different tune.
Some of my frustration is over how many minutes Lue is playing all our key players in games like Detroit. The second team should have gotten more run last night. Why sleepwalk for 3 1/2 quarters (Love and KI’s offense notwithstanding) and then go 110% trying to wipe out an 18 pt lead in February? With all the b2b games coming up, Lue has to channel Pop as many here have said.
Totally agree Mike. The writing is on the wall on Lebron. REST HIM!! Stop caving into his demands. The thing that made absolutely no sense in this Detroit game, was Lue didn’t rest him more. If he was truly considering to rest him completely, then why in the world didn’t he at least just play him reduced mins? Lebron is no good to anyone when he is this fatigued. He makes too many turn overs and becomes the 3 point chucker. Lue, stop the insanity.
It is frustrating and mind boggling, but lets be real. This team has a cake walk to the #1 seed in the East. They don’t have to face the Spurs, Clippers, Thunder, or Warriors until the finals. They seem focused, most of the time, but startling lapses cause us as fans to question their commitment. As long as they stay healthy and pay attention to detail this team will compete with anyone they face in the playoffs and with apologies to Steph Curry, I’ll take Lebron in a playoff series against anyone but the Spurs, he turns it up by… Read more »
Didn’t see the game last night, so I cannot comment on that, but I think that the next month is critical for the Cavs in terms of preparation. It takes time to work on offensive plays (at this point, forget a system for the Cavs). The guys still seem to be working out the kinks of playing together, and let’s face it cramming for the final exam rarely works. So, losses on the second night of a back-to-back do not matter (maybe even pull a Pop and rest players), but gosh, I hope they really use this time to work… Read more »
“It’s a fun group, I can tell why they’re a great team… they love each other & they have fun out there.” – Varejão
Sounds like Wizards about to sign Hickson. Hard for me to believe he’s still collecting NBA paychecks.
He better get those donuts!
He’s only 27. He should be in his prime. That dude really wasted a golden opportunity to become a really good player. He had a little bit of Dion-itis.
Seriously?? He’s 27?? That’s amazing.
Windy also said that the Cavs should investigate the Pacers, seeing that they were the previous team in those rooms. Windy, also noted that he once got bed bugs in a hotel in Sacramento. Said his leg got really heavy.
Investigate??? Bed Bugs? What the hell is wrong with these reporters? If they want to go CSI, they need to change their profession. When you say the word investigate, there is already an implication that Kyrie is guilty of something. Make no mistake, Kyrie is becoming a target. Expect more facet dripping of negative stories to mount. As weird as this may sound, I’m keeping track. The spring before Lebron came back, there was one hell of a negative campaign against Kyrie from you know who as well as the New York media . I actually counted over 50 negative… Read more »
Kyrie is one of my all time favorite players. He’s perhaps the most entertaining player in the NBA.
I don’t care what these media people say. They have to come up with something to talk about 24/7 and too frequently go with an obscure non-basketball story to stir everyone up. Unfortunately, appealing to the baser side of humanity is always an attention getter.
Windy doesn’t think the new defensive coach is working out so well. The defense has definitely slipped.
Wasn’t Lue the defensive coach?
Yes. But he doesn’t think it’s going so well for the new guy, from the Suns.
I don’t think he worked out in Phoenix either. They were god awful on defense…
Phoenixbis such a mess l, that you almost have to give everyone a mulligan. Their probably starts at Sarver and has made everyone associated look bad. Kerr was a mediocre GM, with his hands tied and now he’s the golden boy of the league.
Fair enough on the Kerr point. I just felt like one of the glaring weaknesses was always their defense. Maybe it was personnel, maybe it was the lockerrooms inability to galvanize. Hopefully ours improves. Was wonderful against the thunder.
“I’m not calling them ‘The Big 3’ until they win a championship.” -Tracy McGrady on The Jump — TMac loves the Cavs
McMenamin said that he thinks Joe Johnson wants to stay in Brooklyn, and that Kevin Martin, and Jakaar Sampson are intriguing options. Although I thought Sampson signed with Denver?
McMenanim said, on Bull and Fox, that something doesn’t add up with Kyrie’s bed bugs story.
Uh? Why? Are we trying to create a bed-bug-gate? Seriously?
He didn’t say that Kyrie is lying, But just odd, because you can’t typically see bed bugs.
Wonder where McMenanim got his entomology degree.
(PS don’t google or youtube this question unless you don’t want to sleep at night like Kyrie – you can absolutely see these with the naked eye)
You can see something 0.2 inches big.
Oh the things we can say………. Should I? Like that’s what she said.
WHy are these writers out to get Kyrie? I don’t get it. Is McMenamin friends with Cato , who wrote the story and was forced to back pedal once Hilton backed Kyrie’s story. Windhorst has had a few back door swipes at him to lately. What happen to feel good stories about athletes? I’m disgusted at the “Open Season” mentality against athletes from reporters.
Kyrie is the new spokesperson for Hilton.
This trade should probably go down at some point: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hs3abmq
I don’t think Portland does this trade. I also don’t like getting rid of 2 centers and only getting 1 PF back in return.
Derek Favors can play center too.
I can’t believe how well the Trailblazers have played this season. I kind of hope Houston doesn’t make the playoffs and Utah squeezes in behind Portland for that 8th seed.
I’m really surprised, too. You have two guards that can scorch teams like they do, though, and you can win some games. I kind of wish the Cavs had kept, Crabbe, too.
And drafted McCollum instead of the Burrito-eating-monster
I’d forgotten that. Fun drinking game – look at that draft now, think of who the Cavs could have drafted, and drink.
I couldnt agree more. It has been double fun since I live in Oregon and they are a great second favorite team to root for. No expectations and see what happens. I almost went to the infamous cavs game so glad I didnt or I might of changed colors. I so hope they knock out Houston or somebody and maintain the 8th spot in playoffs. I think the guards will make Curry and Thompson work as much as any team. Sure they will beat them but work and energy spent.
The Blazers are one of the few teams where GS can’t rest Curry on D…he’s gotta take one of those guys, and either one can absolutely wear you out.
If I was a player on the Rockets, I’d probably hate Dwight and Harden.
I think they kinda do, at least Harden. He’s a great offensive player, but I doubt he’s much of a blast to play with. He really built up that brand in the offseason, though, so great job, James…
I wonder if any of the players on the Cavs hate each other?
Wow is this revealing! Reasons Andy chose Warriors (besides obvious) is he knew more people there Barbosa, Walton, Livingston, Speights. He certainly emphasized their happy locker room and that ‘they love each other”. http://www.csnbayarea.com/warriors/varejao-impressed-how-warriors-love-each-other?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo Andy has always been a humble guy and good locker room guy. Kinda put a little picture in your mind that this isn’t so much the case on Cavs. Take a listen and/or read.
Galvanization in Dubs Nation….
They definitely seem to handle success well…
The Cavs handle losing well. They have a Colsian mindset.
Fun fact. The Cavs play 6 back to back sets in the next 30 days.
I see zero reason for Lebron to play any two games in a row the rest of the season. I’m fine with taking all six as losses, if that’s what it means. There’s just no point in risking injury due to not enough recovery time.
I’ve always been in that camp, but seeing that article the other day about how so many injuries happen after 30 minutes on the second night of back to backs – just forget. LBJ isn’t a kid anymore. I’d rather start Sasha Kaun at the 3 than risk an LBJ injury.
You and me, both, brother. The NBA can schedule that garbage, but it doesn’t mean teams have to take those games very seriously.
I agree and have wanted to rest him on back to backs the entire season. In fact I didn’t want James, Love, or Irving playing more than 32 minutes a night. Losses be damned. I am ready to go full on spurs with our rotations. Unfortunately this has not happened at all from what I can remember this year. Hopefully, Lue does this the rest of the season as you said.
It’s a great opportunity for the second unit to work on plays and get some run.
“You’ve got some super-talented Hall of Famers here,” Frye said. “Set a screen and get the hell out of the way.”
Sounds like it only took Frye one game to learn the Cavs offense!
Ha! The playbook is written on the side of a paper coffee cup in the lunchroom.
TheOtherJason’s comment is the “Comment of this Thread.”
Kyrie’s bedbug story: http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/2/22/11096696/kyrie-irving-bed-bugs-oklahoma-city-hotel-thunder-haunted
At least Love played well. The Cavs seemed unable to get him the ball. It’s completely anecodotal, but I just felt like the Cavs defense was a mess when Kyrie was in, and much better without him. And he and LeBron were super lazy at times. It’s all well and good that the Lue talks about managing minutes and holding guys accountable, but he seems unable to, you know, actually do it. Also, the end of the Cavs’ bench is a mess right now. They need to get another point guard as Mo/Delly/Kyrie insurance. I’m not sure who’s out there.… Read more »
That all perimeter lineup was hilariously bad. Just take it to the hoop, KI, while four guys stand 30 feet from the basket.
You guys didn’t see on TV but JR was limping a lot. He made a spinning defensive move and got the inside of his knee banged up. We were surprised Lue didn’t take him out.
Yeah that lineup wasn’t great but Frye should be played almost exclusively at center with LeBron or Love at the four. He is too slow laterally to play big minutes at the 4. He gets toasted by anyone remotely agile.
Yes his lateral movement was worse than I had anticipated. Looked like he had lead boots on out there. Will be difficult to play him against any of the Warriors small ball lineups.
AGREE WITH POST GAMES COMMENTS BY A.C./ CAMPY AND THAT THE CAVS HAVE NOT REALLY ESTABLISHED AN IDENTITY YET ( OTHER THAN THEY HAVE ALOT OF GOOD BALLPLAYERS ) ARE WE AN UP TEMPO TEAM OR HALF CT —-WAS IS OUR DEFENSIVE IDENTITY/ TOUGHNESS—-1 THING THAT WAS CONSISTENT DURING ENTIRE PLAYOFS LAST YEAR WAS OUR DEFENSIVE / REDOUNDING / MENTAL TOUGHNESS—ENJOYED WATCHING THOSE GAMES —MAYBE WE ARE SLOWLY PROGRESSING INTO ( HOPE SO ) — SAME TYPE OF TEAM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:14829235
It has been very frustrating. The fact that we have such great players makes it more so.
So winning 6 in a row just wasn’t enough. How many would it take for the Cavs to be able to lose a game after playing 3 in 4 nights? 10? 15/ 27? in a row before you would just say, oh man that sucked but they looked tired and couldn’t hit a shot.
How many games in a row would it take for a loss to not cause such crazy pessimism.
The craziest part is that last year’s playoffs taught us just how little the regular season matters, especially back to back games in February against teams like DET. It is truly irrational to get so riled up over every single game.
Bottom line: Cavs are a very good team that needs to keep playing hard and improving as much as possible. That was true after the OKC game and is true now. Yet after the OKC game everyone is ready to crown us and after the DET game everyone freaks out. It’s crazy.
Enjoy the process. Appreciate this team.
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Totally agree Hot Sauce. This team needs to get better, not win every game doing the same flawed strategy that won’t work when the title is on the line. It’s a little frustrating the defensive intensity was awful for most of the game and then frantic, lights-out, suffocating for two 5 min stretches. But if it takes Lebron shooting 5-18 with 6 TO for us to lose, we are going to win a lot of games. Some other good take aways: Kevin Love continues to go bananas on offense and his defense looks better. His fit with Lebron is looking… Read more »
82 games. Simple enough.
Haha. Well I did predict 82-0, so maybe I should be going crazy too.
Who is the target of you ire? Cory’s opening paragraph is about as anti panic as it gets. There are zero sky is falling comments.
Is this about something Amin Elhassin wrote?
Amin Elhassan in full Cleveland troll mode today on ESPN.
Ugh. I really can’t stand it that the Cavs aren’t allowed to lose a game after winning 6 straight. It’s so annoying.
Amin still thinks that the Heat are going to the finals. He’s been waiving those pom pom’s all season.
So dumb. The Cavs lost. They were tired and played poorly. They gave great effort though. Why can’t people let their favorite team lose a game without going through an existential crisis?
I’m out. Enjoy the hate fest today.
I think we’re having two completely different conversations.
Yeah sorry, not meant for this conversation. I’m just frustrated with the attitude that the Cavs can never lose.
Pretty funny stuff coming from the guy who predicts them to win every game, and sweep every series.
Whoa What are you talking about the piss poor crowd!!??? You were sitting in the wrong section, son! Come up to blue collar sections 203 and above. We were on our feet last night screaming our heads off. Our chants trickled down to the lower decks . Those kids in the cheap seats of 231, 232,233 never stopped beating those sticks. I didn’t see any empty seats around us or 4 sections over.
I don’t know where you were sitting. But the crowd was very engaged and on their feet where I was and stayed there to the bitter end.
Crowd was hear a pin needle drop quit last night on TV until LeBron’s breakaway dunk. When I was there two weeks ago for the TWolves game the Loudville section was peppy and lower bowl was on propofol. I don’t think the TV mics pick up much from the upper bowl.
No the TV doesn’t hear us! I do wish Gilbert would throw a bone to the upper deck. They really do try harder to cheer and get their team going. Lower deck audience for the most part is comfy and lazy. Just my observation of years going to Cav games.
It’s ridiculous to see these crazy fans practically doing circus tricks to get a T-Shirt. They really are not physically fit to do some of the things I see.LoL Meanwhile, the lower deck people just kinda sit there, “Oh hum, another dumb shirt I don’t want Chauncey” Tee Hee Hee
TIM LEGLER EXPLAINS THAT THE ” OVER DRIBBLING ” IS HURTING THE CAVS —-NEED TO GET AWAY FROM THIS
Many analytics , other NBA coaches and even Kobe himself has practically beaten Lebron over the head on those criticisms . Not sinking in.
I am sure the whole team is aware of it by now. However, when guys have played their entire careers one way, I am guessing that certain habits and attitudes are hard to break. I am no longer sure if all of it is a conscious decision by the players or rather an automatic response to adversity. I think it would help if our ball movement was predicated upon a system rather than improvised off of simplistic sets and isos. In other words if we had a system of constant and energetic off ball movement, the actual ball movement would… Read more »
Nice analysis of the Spurs offense and changing nature of NBA
Thanks. Yeah the bballbreakdown channel on youtube is awesome. So happy I randomly found it one day. Basically like sitting in on professional film sessions where the coach breaks down a ton of interesting xs and os from College and NBA. I have only started looking through the guy’s videos but the Spurs Offense videos are definitely worth the watch. The evolution of those championship teams is fascinating.
On to the next one. Just won 6/7, so I’m feeling pretty good about this team. First round sweep if we see them again.
I don’t think the Cavs would sweep the Pistons. They create some match-up problems for the Cavs, especially inside and on the pick and roll. Drummond is difficult for most teams to contain, but Tristan gives up way too much size to him.
I like the Pistons team going forward, especially if they can add some more depth. SVG is bringing his Orlando blue print back and it appears to be working well.
As long at LeBron, Love, and Kyrie are here the Pistons will not matter.
Although I try not to ever agree with Cols, he’s right. Detroit is no threat in the playoffs. There really isn’t a legit threat in the Eastern Conference. Especially since Bosh is out for Miami and Butler is out for Chicago. Toronto might make a series of it, but that’s about it. The Cavs don’t have much to play for right now – they’re going to win the East and they’re not going to catch Golden State or San Antonio for home field in the Finals. The rest of the regular season is practice. Work on sets, work on chemistry,… Read more »
And the 12 games after that are really just a formality
I went to the game last night. Pistons on a back to back fought harder in the paint for their baskets than the Cavs did. Lue needs to stop his lip service on Lebron. Nothing has changed from Blatt to Lue in this dept. He was clearly tired in this game. WHen he is fatigued, he makes many many mistakes Then his mistakes lead him into ISO LeBron & chucking up 3’s Lebron and I don’t see anyone else on the team. Fans noticed and yelled to rest Lebron. Lue has him in there too long in the 3rd on… Read more »
Less than imoressed with Fryes first game with 9 minutes. Solid sample size. Bust. Meanwhile Andy was a DNPCD.
Yeah. I do not understand why CtB is so against the Frye trade. Everyone outside of this blog thought it was a solid move.
We weren’t all against it.
Yep, I was never against trading Varejao, especially after that crazy extension. I actually had/have a bit of hope for this trade in regards to having both love and frye out on the floor to completely space it against the warriors. I will say that Fryes lateral mobility is worse than I had anticpated and playing him against any of the Warrior’s small ball lineups will prove very problematic defensively. I will say that my one fear about the trade has come true. Varejao playing for the Warriors in the finals terrifies me in a worst case scenario kind of… Read more »
Andy will get zero playing time in the playoffs except maybe garbage time.
Maybe, Ezeli is supposed to come back but who knows what happens there. After that they pretty much have Bogut and Andy. Do not see Speights getting many minutes.
okay Dave ?? How about rereading the last sentence (before trivia) . I already acknowledged it was first game and criticism was not fair. So where is your revelation?
Because the crowd here seems to have preemptively decided that Frye sucks and wasn’t worth the trade exception. Which is dumb because every other basketball analyst seems to think it was a good job by Griffin to get a useful big guy who can shoot a bit.
Sorta this. Andy didnt suck but Fryes 4 rb 1 ast 2 pts looks exactly like an Andy line.
Frye got more playing time than Andy in that 1 game. Hopefully, he finds his way. It’s going to be tough for him if fans keep comparing him to Andy.
Cols you were not physically there. You cant exactly go up and argue with every person in the crowd that disagrees with your thinking. There is alcohol involved and money you paid for your ticket, the hassle to just get there (traffic, parking ,long lines ect) . It’s just fans . Just telling people what I saw.
REMEMBER LEBRON HAD A “2 WEEK ” VACATION LAST YEAR —TIME OFF PERIODICALLY MIGHT BE A SMART THING WILL SEE HOW WE MATCH UP ( POSSIBLE 1ST ROUND MATCH UP ) WITH THE HORNETS TOMORROW/ BEAT US RECENTLY WITHOUT THEIR BEST PLAYERS SHUMP’S CONSTANT INJURIES ARE BECOMING A CONCERN ( IS THIS WHY HE WAS ON TRADING BLOCK AND ALSO WHY THERE WERE NO TAKERS ) ARE WE WRITING THE 2ND COMING OF MO GOTTI OFF ALREADY —WITH HIS RECENT INJURY / LACK OF PLAYING TIME–THOUGHT IN THE OFF SEASON THIS WAS A GOOD PICK UP / BENCH SCORING –NOT… Read more »
Not buying all the injuries Mo is having given the lack of playtime he has had. Works well in the excuse dept of why he isn’t playing much. Shump took a big hit in the shoulder in 1 game and now he is out for how long?? His injuries are adding up for a young guy. .
The crazy thing is Mo averaged around 15 pts most of the time Kryie was out. He was the Cavs third highest scorer, and his offense made up for his defense. Maybe the knee has gotten worse, and it’s affected his jumper. I don’t think the Cavs would have done as well without Mo the first 30-35 games or so of the season. He has sure disappointed lately, and been a sourpuss with some of his tweets……something about not knowing who your friends are. That’s like a 7th grader tweet.
When he did play when Delly was hurt, he seldom got the ball. Lebron took over as PG when Mo was in. I felt bad for him .
Bad night from Lebron, they lose. It happens especially on a btb. Pistons not exactly a lock for 8th seed. I would say a first round matchup from any Pistons, Hornets, Bulls would make the Cavs work a little. But they should be able to move on from any of these teams in 5.
Kyrie and Love played fine. Cant stand going to the Live and seeing people complain about an 11 of 21 night with 5 assists. Good D by the Pistons to limit the other Cavs.
What’s the current mood, sign Lue up for a lifetime contract or ban him from the NBA?
Let him finish the season. If he has a ring keep him if he doesn’t hire Luke Walton
READ IT —HOTEL ADMITTED TO IT —–KY ONLY GOT “10 ” MINUTES OF SLEEP ——AND THE ENTIRE CAVS WERE “SLEEPWALKING ” LAST NIGHT ——WANT TO SEE WITH MORE REPS/ TIME WHAT FRYE WILL BRING TO THE TEAM —TOBIAS IS A NICE PICK UP FOR THEM AND IF THEY KEEP THIS GROUP TOGETHER IT WON’T BE LONG BEFORE THEY ARE A VERY TOUGH TEAM
Has anyone read the Kyrie bedbug story?
Thanks Cory. Lot of turnovers, and almost all of them were completely unnecessary. Probaby were the difference between an ugly win and an ugly loss. In retrospect, I really wish Lue would have tossed this one in the L column, and just rested a bunch of players.
Thanks guy. It’s kind of amazing that the game was as close as the final score considering how generous the Cavs were with giving the ball back and LeBron’s no show. I totally agree that they could have rested some guys after the third. They didn’t make the come back in the fourth until it was too late.