Recap: Cavs 114, Hornets 103 (or, the new guy is pretty good)
2016-02-25The Cleveland Cavaliers returned to action last night to take on the Charlotte Hornets in a game that may have meant a bit more than one might realize at first glance. Not only would a win against Michael Jordan’s team get the Cavaliers on the winning path after a rough loss to the Detroit Pistons, it would also avenge a February loss that was LeBron James’ first to the Hornets in his last 22 games against them. Both the Cavaliers and the Hornets were without their top perimeter defenders in Iman Shumpert and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, respectively, and were trying to work new pieces into their rotation, but one had LeBron James and Kyrie Irving and the other did not.
First Quarter
The offense started slowly for both teams, and the Cavaliers had three early turnovers, mirroring their troubles Monday night against the Pistons. The Cavs then ran out to an early 12-4 lead behind some aggressive play from LeBron James, including a pair of threes. The Cavaliers also had five assists on their first six baskets. The Hornets then came back with an 18-5 run, and the ball began to stick a bit for the Cavs. Frank Kaminksy had eight quick points off the bench as the Hornets took a five-point lead. Kyrie Irving then went into attack mode with two quick baskets to cut the Hornets’ lead to 24-23 at the end of the quarter. James had 10 points, 3 rebounds, and 3 assists in the quarter, and it was obvious that he and Irving could score whenever they wanted.
Second Quarter
The Cavaliers started the quarter with a lineup of Matthew Dellavedova, Irving, Richard Jefferson, Channing Frye, and Timofey Mozgov, and it worked out well. Frye immediately fouled Frank Kaminsky, but quickly redeemed himself with a three to tie the game. This group moved the ball well in the half court and Irving continued to attack in transition as the Cavaliers quickly took a five-point lead. Frye did a great job moving without the ball, and had five of the team’s eight points during this run. Jeremy Lin continued to get to the basket and the line to keep the score close, until back-to-back threes by J.R. Smith and Dellavedova pushed the Cavaliers’ lead to eleven. Smith’s three was the first of four straight shots he hit with at least a hand in his face, and the Cavaliers began to actively look for him. The Hornets continued to get to the line, but the Cavs did a great job of moving the ball and attacking in transition, and pushed the lead to fourteen. The Hornets didn’t let up, but they didn’t really close the gap either, and the Cavaliers led 63-52 at the half. James had 15 points on just four shots, but was just 3-of-6 from the line, Irving and Smith combined for 27 points on 11-of-15 shooting, and Thompson had nine rebounds.
Third Quarter
The Cavs were a bit sluggish on both ends of the floor, and the Hornets were able to cut the lead to seven. The lone exception was Kyrie Irving, who continued to attack the basket. Unfortunately even that was in isolation, and the teams essentially traded buckets for most of the quarter. The Cavaliers missed a few bunnies at the rim, but were able to get some steals and get out in transition as the lead essentially fluctuated between seven and thirteen. The Cavaliers wound up outscoring the Hornets by one for the quarter, and led 88-76 heading into the final frame.
Fourth Quarter
The fourth quarter quickly became the Channing Frye show as the newest Cavalier hit three long bombs from deep to help push his new team’s lead to 20 as part of a 13-5 run in the first three minutes of the quarter. The threes continued to rain down as Delly and Jefferson made a pair after a Kyrie Irving bucket. From there it was all a formality. As is typical for the Cavs, the Hornets cut the lead a bit during garbage time, but the Cavaliers prevailed 114-103. The biggest highlight of this quarter was LeBron James not having to play, keeping him to just 30 minutes for the game.
Some Things I’ve Noticed
Here’s some highly advanced statistics for you. When James and Irving combine for 46 points, 12 assists and 13 rebounds while two other Cavaliers score in the teens, the team has an excellent chance at winning.
Kemba Walker had 20 points on 7-of-13 shooting, but it didn’t seem to have much of an impact. Maybe that’s because he was also getting torched by Kyrie Irving on the other end.
Rough game for Kevin Love. Love had just eight points and two rebounds, but did have a pair of steals and did a nice job on the defensive end. It’s good to see that he didn’t let his down night affect him on that end of the floor.
Channing Frye was excellent tonight, with 15 points and six rebounds in just 18 minutes tonight. He was only +2 for the game, but that stat was warped somewhat by Frye playing alongside Mo Williams and others in garbage time at the end of the game. So far, the Cavaliers are using him as a power forward alongside Timofey Mozgov. While some would argue that Frye is better off as a stretch five due to both his defense and the way the Golden State Warriors play, there’s a good chance that the Cavaliers will be better with Frye playing the four alongside Mozgov than the five alongside Jefferson because of Mozgov’s rim protection versus Jefferson’s inconsistent perimeter defense. If they need to play Jefferson instead of Mozgov in certain matchups they will, but with the rest of the league going small to add shooting, it’s interesting to see the Cavaliers add shooting while getting bigger.
The Cavs continued to struggle to stop the opposition, allowing the Hornets to shoot 48.7% from the field. They were able to rack up 11 steals due to their aggressiveness, but they need to find the balance between trying to generate turnovers so they can get out in transition and staying in front of their opponents to contest shots.
On a final note, the Golden State Warriors are 3-1 since the All-Star break. They’ve been the best team in the league all season, and they have an excellent chance of surpassing the 1996 Chicago Bulls’ record 72 wins. That being said, I don’t believe they’re invincible. They were blown out by the Portland Trailblazers in their first game after the break, blew big leads to the Los Angeles Clippers and Atlanta Hawks, and trailed the Chris Bosh-less Miami Heat until the final minute of last night’s game. They do have some kinks in their armor, and teams like the Cavaliers, Spurs, and Thunder have a chance against them if they execute at an extremely high level. There’s no doubt that the Warriors are the favorites to win the title, and they should be, but part of the beauty of sports is that the unexpected can always happen.
Nice flop Harden!!!!!
Tim Legler makes some good points about Johnson not being a good fit for Cavs. He has the reputation of being an ISO player. And adding that to our line up might not be ideal. But as Kevin Pelton pointed out in his article, his usage is way down this year, in Brooklyn, so I think if he buys in to whatever the Cavs are pitching it could work. I also don’t think Johnson would start with the way JR is playing.
Houston should buy out Brewer.
They still think they have a chance for some reason.
Yeah they won’t make changes until after the season. Or mid April.
Kevin Martin and the Timberwolves in advanced buyout negotiations to make him free agent by playoff-eligibility deadline, league sources say – Stein
Any chance for anyone good in a buy out?
Well it looks like the Pelicans aren’t but out Anthony Davis so…. I like Joe Johnson. I know he’s not a great defender. But he might be better defensively playing the 4, in smaller line ups (he’s 6’8). And he’s shot 46% from 3 since January 1st. He can space and post up. Will he really move the needle? Probably not, but it’s worth trying out. I think you can probably play him against the Warriors, where I’m not sure you could play Frye.
Yeah, that could possibly work, maybe in a super small lineup with him at the 4 and love at 5 or james at 5.
I think he could defend Shaun Livingston, not sure about Draymond. He could also start for LeBron on back-to-backs, so LeBron could get rest for the playoffs.
I think that would be the best potential use for him in a GS matchup – right now, the Cavs really have nobody to match up with Livingston.
LeBron is pretty much it. Can’t remember if Jefferson play against him? Shump and Delly seem too short. Maybe Shump if he’s healthy?
Watching Andy for the dubs is just making me depressed. Just killing the magic with his passing. Cavs are so dumb.
Yeah. I still see no reason to have traded him. Unless we were the clear favorite in the finals and there was no possible way he’d help us, I don’t get giving him away.
Cavs did not use Andy. The coaching staff knows how to incorporate Frye’s skill set into the offense to a much greater degree.
It’s a shame, but it is what it is, I guess.
Wtf, just looked at espn nba scores and curry has 46 points in 30 minutes?! Anyone watching that game? Wtf is going on with that nonsense.
Orlando isn’t any good is what’s going on
Andy had jump started the GSW offense with pin point passing! Now Curry will start scoring 75 or 100 per game!
Andy with 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 5 points and +11 in 11 minutes. Yeah, he’s washed up.
He owns bad teams.
No more new pieces for offense plz! We have enough scorers…shots are actually hard to come by on this team. We could use a backup wing who isn’t 90 and can play defense!
It seems like none are available unless we venture into the D League, which we can still do with our 15th spot. Then as Nate pointed out above, we can run a 12 man playoff roster of LBJ, Kyrie, TT, Moz, Shump, JR. Delly, Love, Frye, RJ, JJ, and then a versatile wing defender.
WOW I AM AGREEING WITH COLS —( ANYONE WHO GOES TO BEER CAMP CAN’T BE ALL THAT BAD )—GET J.J.’S SIZE AND NUMBER RIGHT NOW —–IS LEBRON ” ACTIVELY ” RECRUITING J.J. ?
Joe Johnson gave up $3 million of his remaining Nets salary in his buyout, sources say. Can make up some on his next deal. — Zach Lowe
Pay the man Danny G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For what it’s worth, I spoke to a league source today who thinks the Cavs land Joe Johnson. Becomes the team’s 6th man – Joe Vardon
The team’s sixth man, wtf???!!! How about the teams 12th man. Ughh. Not playing better than Jefferson this year. Doesn’t shoot as well or defend as well as delly. Is nowhere near the defender shumpert is, and basically cannot move laterally.
Ironic that you compared him to RJ. JJ was the 10th pick in the 2001 draft and RJ was the 13th. This is the 15th year in the league for both. There are 4 other players in their 15th year from that same first round! P Gasol, T Chandler, Z Randolph and T Parker. And a bunch of others that seemed to have long careers and retired years ago- Jason Richardson 5th, Vlad Radmanovich 12th, Troy Murphy 15th, Jason Collins 18th, Brendan Haywood 20th, Gerald Wallace 25th, Samuel Dalembert 26th, and Jamaal Tinsley 27th. Not a bad 1st round I’d… Read more »
Yeah, wow 2 probable 1st or second ballot hall of famers, a couple perennial all stars, and a couple borderline all star guys in addition to a bunch of solid role guys. Wasn’t arenas in that draft too?
The only scenario in which JJ is a better 6th man than Delly is if all of our ISO players are unavailable (meaning, the game is over). So yeah, not sixth man. He would take most of RJ’s minutes, I think, unless Shump is out for extended time. and I think RJ is probably a more reliable 3pt shooter, but JJ probably better defender, if he is engaged.
I dunno the few times I have watched him this year he has looked slow as molasses, but I haven’t seen him recently.
But it must also be noted that the Hawks, sources say, plan to make a determined push to try to convince Joe Johnson to return to Atlanta. – Stein
Back to where the legend started…
ESPN sources say there is strong confidence within the Cavs’ organization that they are in prime position to win the Joe Johnson Sweepstakes — Stein
….just like there was strong confidence during LeBron Sweepstakes #1…just sayin’
—-just like Kevin Love was leaving Cleveland. The talking heads are wrong so much it’s nauseating.
http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/nba/631270979515/0/rip-and-raja-blast-curry-over-showboating
Curry is definitely fortunate that he’s playing in the current era. Not saying it’s right, but if he played in the early/ mid ’90s, he’d be taking, shall we say, ‘very hard fouls’.
Someone today should still take Curry down. It would be worth the one game suspension, and perhaps stop his showboating. LeBron got grief for the animated sideline pre-game shows the team did during LeBron 1.0. But I don’t think that was taunting the bench or other players. I would love to see Curry get wacked really hard, and wish Perkins had done it last year.
Yaaaa, I don’t necessarily condone those types of fouls either, but Curry is getting unbearable. He’s untouchable in the current NBA and he knows it.
Iso Joe to OKC makes too much sense. But maybe Lebron has some relationship with him, who knows. Doesn’t move the needle either way, but I’d rather have him than not, I suppose.
I think Johnson is better suited as a LeBron replacement than Richard Jefferson. Also, if any of the guards (Shump/Delly/Kyrie/JR) get injured between now and the playoffs, JJ is a nice backup to fill in. He isn’t a good defensive player but he’s a better offensive player than Shump
I think everone on the team is a better offensive player than Shump right now. Good point about potential injuries…with an open roster spot, might as well get him if possible.
FYI
Cavs have a better net rating than the Warriors since Jan 25th.
All it took was firing the EuroGenius to focus the Cavs.
Speaking of Genius. Where on earth is Evil????
All it took was for KI to get in shape. I’ve not seen anything out of Lue that differentiates him from Blatt. Your mileage may vary.
He had a death in his family, so he is taking care of things right now. He’ll be back in time.
Poor guy. If he needs someone to drink with, I’m always around!
Watch the Cavs to be favored to sign Joe Johnson, then the Warriors cut Varejao and steal Johnson from us. Wouldn’t that be so CLEVELAND….
LOL – that would be something for the Warriors to sign Varejao and cut him a week later.
Early indication is Joe Johnson will take a couple days to sift through offers now that he’s secured buyout. Clears waivers Saturday at 5 PM — Marc Stein
I just offered him free beer for the rest of the season. Plus a guide to Denver when he’s in town.
We probably don’t want him drinking beer or hanging out with you in Denver at Beer Camp, if he’s gonna help this team in the playoffs. Otherwise, give me the talentless hustle guys…
Beer Camp was in Orlando.
Orlando sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why does Orlando suck, Arch? Yes, the Airport is one of the worst.
I was just in Orlando for a a few days for work. Not a huge fan, but it was somewhat nice to be surrounded by palm trees.
Very cold #cryotherapy #IceItDownNow ??
https://twitter.com/matthewdelly/status/702950718379008002
Look at those love handles! Delly putting on weight again.
Needs to hire Cols as a personal trainer.
Too much Red Robin….
Joe Johnson officially waived!!! Let the JJ Watch begin!
Yep. I hope he chooses to come here. He’d be a fantastic addition to our bench. I know we have the best offense since Jan 25, but it can always be better.
Plus he’s big enough that he can guard some 4s.
#Cavs, others will have to wait to sign Johnson until Saturday — Keith Britton
JR being JR
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCOCdbmyLn2/
Man, seems like this team sure has a lot of chemistry issues….
Zavac wrote a nice piece on the Cavs numbers with Kyrie Irving over at FtS.
http://www.fearthesword.com/2016/2/25/11114182/despite-missing-time-and-all-star-game-kyrie-irving-has-been?utm_campaign=davidzavac&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Please delete this link so that we can stick to the narrative that Kyrie is to blame for all the Cavs’ woes. It’s pretty obvious that this team would be much better off with Delly and and someone like Steve Blake running the show.
Steve Blake, the under the radar HOFer.
Gotta have homogenous takes so people can soapbox against narratives.
OH. MY. GOOD. LORD. IN. HEAVEN. ABOVE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhRkL3YFYac
Today is a good day.
“The Cavs announce that Mo Williams will not accompany them on their two-game road trip through TOR and WAS to stay back and receive treatment on his sore L knee.”-Mcten
Honestly, I’d rather have Joe Harris on the team.
LOL. Do you remember Joe Harris? And what the Cavs looked like with him on the floor?
I think he meant Donald Sloan.
Joe Harris was not a mope-fest. All that we need from that kind of roster spot. Someone to not be a mope-fest.
Joe Harris sucks. We do not need or want him.
True. he wasn’t a Mo-pe fest. That’s a low bar though.
Joe Johnson does not appeal to me at all. Kevin Martin doesn’t play defense and Dorrell Wright is just an all around question mark. So my above suggestions are probably exempted.
But ideally we need energy, athleticism, endurance, physicality, and if possible, shooting. We need guys that are versatile wing defenders that can harass, bully, and bruise the Warriors.
Where in the world can you find these guys available right now for minimum contracts? Beats me.
Nice write up, per usual. It’s not kinks in the armor, it is chinks in the armor. Think about it, armor doesn’t get kinks.
A kink is a short twist in a rope, thread, hose, or whatever where it is bent back on itself, this makes no sense for armor.
Sorry, pet peeve, put I hate it when people get the lyrics wrong, and when they mess up tried and true sayings.
Ever since that reporter from ESPN got fired for using the “correct” phrasing in a Jeremy Lin headline, we tend to err on the safe side, even if it’s technically the wrong side.
He got fired because using the word “chink” with respect to a Chinese player is incredibly racist.
It’s “chink in the armor”, though.
Yeah, but it was pretty clearly intentionally used because he was Chinese
was it? I remember the guy profusely apologizing and saying he made a mistake and didn’t realize what he was saying was offensive. Am I remembering incorrectly?
I think the guy was young and may not have known better, because the term hasn’t been in wide use as a slur in recent years. But it was a failure of quality control by ESPN if a kid can put something out for millions to see without a second set of eyes to vet it.
He may have said that, but it was the New York Daily News or New York Post, don’t remember. Both those papers always use double meaning headlines. They go out of their way to do it.
You know what? I withdraw my comment. It was the Daily News that reported about the Reporter being fired from ESPN for using it.
I think it was clearly intentional. The reporter might not have said it with malice, but he clearly thought he was using cute wordplay.
Thank you, Captain.
From Grammarist.com Chink vs. kink Chink refers to a narrow opening. It’s often used in the phrase chink in [one’s] armor, which refers to a weakness that provides an opening for attack. Another common use is in the phrase chink of light (or sunlight), which appears most often in British writing and is similar in meaning to ray of hope. Kink has a few meanings, including (1) a tight curl in rope or wire, (2) a painful muscle spasm, (3) a flaw in a plan, and (4) an unusual sexual taste or behavior. None of its meanings have to do… Read more »
Unless the chink in the armor is a small opening for an unusual sexual taste or behavior, in which case you’d have a kink for chinks in armor, which is not to be confused with a kink for those Ming Dynasty statues of Chinese men in armor.
Let’s be done with this topic shall we?
“Rough game for Kevin Love. Love had just eight points and two rebounds, but did have a pair of steals and did a nice job on the defensive end. It’s good to see that he didn’t let his down night affect him on that end of the floor.” It’s encouraging to hear signs of Love stepping up his defensive game. I don’t have a cable package with FoxSports and am unable to watch a lot of games (I at least listen on radio when I can), so I haven’t been able to tell if/how Love is coming along on that… Read more »
The Warriors are great because Curry shoots the lights out. Pretty much end of story. Thompson is also really good and Green, while not a great player, is great at what he does in that system.
But replace Curry with an average PG and that team doesn’t get out of the 2nd round.
Green is a great player, mainly because he is great on D, and can defend anyone, and is especially good defending in the post.
We need a guy like Eric Snow. He did a solid job on D during our first finals trip. Nice interview with Snow today in the PD.
I liked Eric Snow. Even past prime Eric Snow.
Yeah, it’s a vivid memory of Snow getting down in that exagerrated crouch stance……Almost like telling whoever he was guarding, bring it on. Today we couldn’t afford an Eric Snow in his prime, but as you suggest, maybe a past prime version of an Eric Snow.
Dorrell Wright and Tayshaun would be interesting additions. I don’t really feel like the Cavs need a ton more wings. What they need is a point guard guard and a utility 3/4 to allow them to match up with smaller lineups. Dorrell and Tayshaun might work there defensively.
Joe Johnson can play point forward, but isn’t a ball pusher or mover, that’s for sure.
Tayshaun has nothing left in the tank. He is identical to Marion last year.
Cavs don’t need Joe Johnson, they need another guard who can handle, for insurance purposes. Joe Johnson has a little of that still, but he’s far too slow anymore. I’d like to see some D-Leaguers on ten-days. Love to see what Erick Green can do. He’s killing it in the DLeague to the tune of 48% from three and 26 points a night, and he isn’t a shrimp.
If we aren’t going to carry 15 into the playoffs, which I agree we are likely not going to do, then yes, I’d prefer someone who can stick to fast guards which I think is our biggest weakness. We always get killed by the fast guards.
Another vote for a defensive guard who can help hound Curry in the Finals for 8-10 minutes while Delly or whoever rests. Joe Johnson doesn’t excite me given his inability to help in this dept.
The playoff limit is 12. That makes it tough:
LBJ, Kyrie, TT, Moz, Shump, JR. Delly, Love, Frye, Moz, RJ, and then who’s the 12th guy?
Mo? James Jones? Joe Johnson?
Someone who moves the needle would be nice. Cavs aren’t going to pay a guy just to sit on the roster till next year. Unless there’s an injury or a guy on a 10 day sets the world on fire, Cavs probably aren’t adding anyone.
We haven’t really tried our luck with any 10-dayers but maybe that’s because we still had MDN. If only he could have harnessed himself. The Ninja could have been our secret weapon but the dude had to much athleticism for his own body to handle.
We did it! We cloned Moz!
But why not clone Lebron? Doh!
Hahahaha didn’t even notice.
LOL. OK, You got me.
You know who might be great for that? Jared Cunningham.
Nope. We need players with talent. Not talentless hustle guys. Joe Johnson knows how to play and would help the bench a bunch.
Nice game, but let’s not read to much into this Frye thing. While he shot well, Charlotte was simply not guarding him at all. I expect Channing to shoot that well alone in an empty gym. Charlotte had no game plan for him, while Love had guys running at him the whole night. Moz had nice activity. When he keeps his energy up even when he fumbles some balls, he’s good. I liked him attacking the rack. Really nice to see him get rewarded with more minutes after being one of the bright spots against Detroit. The whole team played… Read more »
That’s the point with Frye though. The Cavs have so many other weapons that he will get a lot of open looks. Same when we sign Joe Johnson.
Cavs should go after Dorrell Wright and Kevin Martin.
I’d like to see if they can get Joe Johnson first. But I don’t think they will fill both roster spots. Kind of feel like they’ll only go with 14 to the post season, because of their luxury tax bill.
I am hoping for a fast athletic guy, maybe from D League. With MDN gone and Deep Fryed here, we are one of the older and slower teams around. We will really need speed, quickness, and energy in the finals. Like Big O says, you gotta cover Curry. All over the place. Remember how the Lakers got a super fast guy for the playoffs that could only do one thing: stay with Iverson. That move probably won the title for them.
Agreed. Want to see some Curry defensive specialists on the Cavs roster. DeAndre Liggins might be a decent 6’6″ 3D guy. Don’t know if he has the speed to keep up with Curry, but he’s leading the D League in steals and shooting 47% from three.
47 percent from three and leading d league in steals. Yeah that is who we should be going for, not the walking corpse of Joe Johnson.
Dunno about the sixers winning the series. Do not think that team had a chance with or without Lue as he didn’t play very many minutes during that series. I do remember watching the first game though and being shocked that they stole it, especially since Iverson had shot so poorly during the playoffs. But that sixers team was a monster defensively which made up for Iverson’s shooting woes. Didn’t get blown out the other 4 games because of that. Still think we defended curry pretty well last year during the first few games but our offensive efficiency was atrocious… Read more »
Much rather have Dorrell than Joe Johnson
Joe Johnson has interest in joining the Hawks if he shakes free from the Nets, several sources tell Chris Vivlamore of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. That adds some doubt to the notion that Johnson would sign with the Cavaliers if he becomes a free agent this season, as Chris Haynes of the Northeast Ohio Media Group and the Cleveland Plain Dealer had heard. The Nets and Johnson have reportedly begun buyout talks. — Hoops Rumors
That would makes sense, seeing that he spent a lot of time in Atlanta. Hawks could also offer him a little bit more money. But if he wants to go to the finals then the Hawks are not the best option.
He’s never cared much about being on a title contender. Always been happy to cash checks and play his game, i.e., ball dominate heavy volume shooting. Which would fit absolutely terribly on this team. I see adding Joe Johnson as moving the needle zero, or maybe even backwards.
Andy V used to cash checks and sit on the bench. At least Joe Johnson can still play.
Troll harder……………………………………………
Nets F Joe Johnson is averaging 13.4 points and shooting 46 percent from 3-point range since Jan. 1. He has hit seven game-winning buzzer-beaters the past decade, most among NBA players. No surprise he’s coveted by several playoff teams with buyout negotiations underway. Brooklyn GM Sean Marks said in a WFAN interview Johnson deserves the right to pursue another opportunity with a contender if that is what the 34-year-old veteran wants. — Mike Mazzeo
After the Nets buy out Joe Johnson, I’m starting a Kickstarter fund w/Celts fans to pay Prokhorov NOT to play Brook Lopez in March/April. — Bill Simmons
Okay, I don’t think Simmons cares about Johnson. He cares about the Brooklyn pick.
Good luck with that Mr. Simmons. Your Celtics will still get swept by the Cavs.
I can’t wait until that pick ends up third overall, and Simmons starts his rampage about fixing the lottery to a system that rewards the Celtics based on their current standings and which picks they own.
I love Big-O’s criticisms of the modern game.
What are they?
My criticisms of the modern game
1. Too many illegal screens
2. Chargers taken by a player sliding in after another player has been burnt are stupid and should never be called
3. Too much holding and jersey grabbing by smaller guys on larger guys
4. Not enough fast breaks
5. There is no number five yet.
Would #5 be – too many players SUCK!
Nope. There are many more good players in this league. I just thought of number 5
5. The minutes police suck
Injuries suck more.
He was saying how the Warriors don’t really have much variation in the amount of sets they run and yet opponents still struggle to stop them. He challenged the knowledge of current NBA coaches. He said that people defend Curry so poorly and don’t challenge him earlier at half court or 3/4 of the court (granted it’s not an easy thing to do, but step up to the damn challenge was his old-school tone). He also said how the big men lack so much skill that the center position is no longer an All-Star selection position, and how the pivot… Read more »
Don’t know about the variation on their sets, but the sets they do run have a ton of off ball movement usually which makes them difficult to stop. That and all of their weapons of course. Then again Steph Curry does not become current Steph Curry without Kerr’s konami code offense. See the Mark Jackson warrior teams.
Definitely post play has fallen off with the shift towards a faster game and more spread offenses.
I like the Big O’s criticisms. He is a bit more of an authorty than Cols….except maybe on drinking beer and writing science fiction. I haven’t watched the Warriors enough to see if any strong defender(s) has attemped to dog Curry before he gets over the half court line for more than just a few possessions. Miami sure didn’t. Delly disrupted Curry enough in the Finals last year that he kept Steph from winning the MVP. I don’t know if Delly and Shump could do it for 30-35 minutes a game. Delly clearly annoyed him during the finals, as he… Read more »
My money would be on Kyle Lowry. That guy is a miniature tank.
What happened to too much passing?
Joe Johnson has started every game in which he’s appeared since 2003/04. So how would he take to a bench role? Something to consider. — HoopsRumors
He’ll be awesome off the bench. No longer facing the other team’s best defender will make his shooting percentages go way up.
Joe Johnson PER/TS%/3PT% by Month:
Nov: 9.2/.462/.277
Dec: 7.5/.432/.339
Jan: 14.3/.604/.470
Feb: 15.5/.620/.441
basketball.realgm.com/player/Joe-Joh…
Johnson is a career 37% 3-point shooter, which is exactly what he is shooting this year.
Yep. And he will have much more space to do his thing in Cleveland. He’d be a great pickup. Griffin really is the best.
It really looks like the Warriors go for 72 is starting to catch up to them in terms of energy and focus. That’s a good sign. If Curry wasn’t so great on offense last night they probably get blown out.
In other news, our offense has been the best in the NBA per 100 possessions since everyone got healthy in mid-December. I guess dribbling works just as well as a thousand passes before a step back Curry 30 footer.
Odds are that they will get to 73 wins, breaking the Bulls record.
Where’d you get that nugget?
The Cavs offensive rating since Dec 20th (first Kyrie game back) is 108.9. That’s the 5th best mark in the league during that span (Dec20-today).
Dec20-Today Offensive Rating:
GSW: 111.8
SAS: 111.7
OKC: 111.2
TOR: 109.2
CLE: 108.9
Offensive rating is defined as points scored per 100 possessions.
Since Lue was put in as coach we are #1.
Why are you just making stuff up? Again, they’re 5th during that time frame.
Jan22-Today Offensive Rating:
GSW: 112.3
MIN: 112.1
OKC: 111.8
POR: 111.5
CLE: 111.3
Since last night they are #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yesterday’s Offensive Rating:
MEM: 130.9
LAL: 125.9
CLE: 119.4
Never change, Cols.
On January 8th, the Cavs played the Timberwolves, the 4th worst D in the NBA this season, and dropped 125 points on them.
That night, they had the best offense in the NBA.
This is just so funny!!!!!!!!
Actually. Since Jan 25th we are number 1
1. Cavs 112.7
2. OKC 11.2
See. Since we got in a practice since Lue was hired we’ve had the best offense in the NBA.
Cols are your still at beer camp?
Unfortunately nope. Beer camp was so much fun. Over 60 units of beer over the three day period. Unfortunately that kind of drinking can only be sustained for so long.
Hey! You found a split that works.
It does. Although I might have ruined my credibility with the other two. Maybe you can tell Nate to write a post about how the Cavs have the best offense in the NBA since Jan. 25th. It might make his head explode.
Stick with beer camp, and stay out of pot camp! Lots of news lately about the surge in hospitalizations in Colorado for pot OD’s. Those people will never be able to go into a store with Doritos again!
And spiking marijuana with opiates … Which can be a death sentence.
Love that last sentence. For all the nonstop gushing over the “perfectly selfless” Warriors, people look past the fact that Curry takes worse shots than JR Smith. Curry just happens to be good at making those, too.
There’s no such thing as a bad shot if it’s likely to go in. By definition it would be a good shot.
This whole exchange made me laugh, a lot.
LOL, yea this exchange was golden
One of the top 3 Cols exchanges, along with drunk Cols night and his live-blog of a podcast a while back (last season?).
The Nets and Joe Johnson have begun talks about a would-be buyout deal, reports Marc Stein of ESPN.com (Twitter link). Johnson would reportedly sign with the Cavaliers if he becomes a free agent this season, but Stein hears that the Hawks, Celtics, Rockets, Heat, Thunder and Raptors are also pursuing him (Twitter link)
Yes!!!!! Another great additions by Griffin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It hasn’t happened yet. But that would be a nice pick up, for sure.
None of those teams worry me about possibly stealing Johnson. But if the Spurs jump into the conversation, then we have some competition.
Yes!!!!!!! RT @ESPNSteinLine: Joe Johnson and the Brooklyn Nets have opened buyout negotiations, ESPN has learned — Bill Simmons
Lol, I wonder if Simmons actually thinks Johnson would go to the Celtics. I would love to spurn him here.
I think the “yes” by Bill was more abot the Brooklyn Pick for Boston, because the Team gets a Little bit worse without JOE
See my comments below…..
.@ChrisBHaynes heard last week that Johnson would sign w/ #Cavs if he becomes a free agent this season: hoopsrumors.com/2016/02/nets-j…
I guess the other thing is that perhaps other teams could offer Johnson more money. I’m not sure where the Celtics are at, but I would hope a couple million more wouldn’t make him choose Boston.
Or playing time.
It’s not a slam dunk.
Toronto is right behind Cleveland in offensive and defensive efficiency.
Defensive Efficiency –
Cleveland: 101.0 (ranked 8th)
Toronto: 101.8 (ranked 9th)
Offensive Efficiency –
Cleveland: 107.1 (ranked 4th)
Toronto: 106.4 (ranked 5th)
Sweep in the playoffs if Toronto can even get there.
They only get swept by Paul Pierce led teams.
Good write up. Good research.
A rested Cavs team helps. Charlotte was on a 5 game win streak, Detroit on a 5 game slide. The Cavs lost to the colder team and beat the hotter one. Go figure.
The shooting % for CHA went up as the subs rolled in late in 3rd and all of the 4th. Kemba had 12 in the third. Interestingly, none in he final 4 minutes when Delly subbed in.
WITH THE AQUISITION OF ” DEEP FRYED ” IT ADDS TO A DEEP BENCH AND ALLOWS A VARIETY OF OPTIONS DEPENDING ON THE OPPONENT AND THE COURSE OF THE GAME —–INTERESTED IN WHO IS STILL ON THE CAVS RADAR AS A BUYOUT OPTION / WHICH IF IT IS THE RIGHT PLAYER WILL ADD TO OUR BENCH STRENGTH
Al Jefferson took the Mozerati for a ride last night. I’m pretty sure every single one of his points came from just backing him down and hitting a shot right in Mozzie’s face. It’s like Moz is allergic to jumping. He refuses to elevate to dunk or block shots. Is something still wrong with his legs? Frye and Jefferson obviously have a great friendship and really seemed to enjoy playing with each other and know what the other person is trying to get on the floor. I think they’ll look good in lineups together moving forward with some solid chemistry.… Read more »
I don’t remember all the Moz-Al match ups. But Al only had 12 points, and was a team worst with a +/- of -24. I also remember him working the refs for a some of those points.
Love gets some pick and pop looks for sure. but most of the time he hesitates and doesn’t actually shoot it. But Jefferson is one of the best offensive post players in the game so you can’t knock Moz for giving up some buckets, at least 2 of those buckets, Moz played pretty good defense and Jefferson just hit a tough shot.
Jefferson wants you to jump on that pump fake. It was pretty clear that Moz’s instructions were: stay on the ground, make him hit tough shots. Moz did that and Jefferson’s effect was minimal.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious so I didn’t have to.
Nice recap guy. Frye looked so much more comfortable. I assume he’ll have. JR effect. When he’s hot, it’s gravy. I look forward to seeing the Delly floater/flush with Frye drawing a defender away from the hoop.
I totally agree with the Warriors. If you can get them turning the ball over, and you can neutralize Curry or Green, you’ve got a shot.
The Cavs have unimpressive defense, but it also feels like the league has gotten a lot more athletic, which is giving our vets problems. I think this team’s current D could have won it all in 2008-2010 with those squad’s offenses.
Cavs looked great. Frye was sweet. Andy V sucked and might be cut by the Warriors.
Yes, but he didn’t warn Curry about that hard screen set by Whiteside. Secret Agent AV!
And now the true plan of DG and DG comes to light. Go Andy!
Geez, did you see the moving block/hold by Green for Curry to get the tthree that gave them the win at the end? Ridiculous that he gets away with that.
Yeah, that’s his game.
That’s his game….his game is to cheat!
Frye had a good game, but he is not going to be able to stick with PF defensively. He moves just a little better than Mozgov. Kaminsky was even giving him problems. Then in the 4th Q when their starting PF M Williams came back in, it was humorous watching Frye try to check him. The game was pretty much over, and the Hornets only ran one backdoor cut for him, but he scored easily, so yea, that Mozzy, Frye, RJ defensive front court is gonna need to score a ton to offset their D.
Re: Frye
I kinda feel we got Steve Hawes back – without the hair.
He will help vs GSW. Or anyone with a plodding 5.
Great to see some deep Fryed balls last night. Not many 5s can step out and make 4 threes in 18 minutes. Definitely gives us another wrinkle with our lineups. Kyrie was tremendous. Good win.
One question: when Shump comes back, do we finally have 10 man rotation or does Lue keep it to 9?
I think we will go 10, with minutes for Shump coming from Delly, JR (who logged 34 last night), and Jefferson.
Yeah. I hope you are right. Ideal seems to be something like:
KI – 32 / Delly 28
JR – 24 / Shump 14 (these minutes can shift depending on who is hot)
LBJ – 36 / RJ 12
KL – 32 / Deep Fryed Balls 18
TT – 30 / Mozzy 16
I’m ok with this for the most part. I’d like to get LBJ down around 34 minutes though. We can give those minutes to Shump and have JR use some of his minutes at the 3.
Nice job, Mike. I personally believe the Warriors are pretty much invincible sans injury. As Lue noted, though, injuries happen. And they could lose to some team in the West – unlikely, but certainly possible. Good game for the Cavs, please don’t play Lebron on back to backs the rest of the season.