On Winning A Championship…
2016-06-22If you’re lucky… you won’t have the opportunity to read this piece until late tonight or early tomorrow after you’ve recovered. Hopefully, you’re one of the likely close to a million souls who ventured to Cleveland today for the victory parade to end all victory parades. Reports had folks coming from nearly every state, as well as from places around the globe… not to mention how well represented the state of Ohio, Northeastern Ohio and Cleveland itself were.
What the Cleveland Cavaliers accomplished will be savored for days, weeks, months, years, decades and generations to come. Stories of where you were and with whom you watched the first Cleveland sports Championship in 52 years will resonate long after the wine and gold confetti has been swept up and the champagne and tears of joy have dried.
For our part here at C:tB… we wanted to share with you some of our own personal stories of how we watched, with who we watched, and what it all meant to us (in roughly 500 words more or less — so as not to get too long in the tooth…).
We hope it inspires you to share your stories too…
Carson Zagger (who was amongst the celebratory throng outside the Q)
A Cleveland championship was a moment I’d daydreamed about and replayed in my head countless times. The exact moment when an entire region was lifted to jubilation above a Curse that had hung around Northeast Ohio like a pall for 52 long years. It’s difficult for me to fathom 52 years. That’s almost two of my lives. Yet the heartbreak of those who’d been around for all the lows since that last, great high in 1964 was palpable to anyone, young or old, who’d been in town long enough to get a pulse on this community. You’ve heard it all before, about how the Cleveland sports curse coincided with the regional economic downturn that saw thousands of careers and people flee for greener pastures. The Curse wasn’t just about the failures of sports teams whose success we had little to no control over; rather, it was an extension of Ohio’s and its people’s own hard luck. Luck that hadn’t changed for 52 years. The losing became an identity.
Of course, for all my daydreams and imagination, nothing could compare to that moment on Sunday night. I went downtown to the outdoor watch party hosted by the Cavs outside of the Q. It was epic. Not epic in the vogue sense (“dude, that rager last night was epic!”) but in the classic meaning. Think the Odyssey. Freaking Lord of the Rings. Thousands of people from a united community were gathered for a moment that would either yield another year of bitter disappointment — another year allowing doubt to creep into our collective psyche about the fortunes laid out for us by the cosmos — or ineffable bliss. People piled on top of each other, on rooftops and cars, hanging out of windows and parking garages… all gathered for the possibility to witness one great event.
I’m convinced the immediate celebration of the Cavs championship in downtown Cleveland is and will remain the most incredible thing I have ever witnessed on Earth. If the universe was created from one singularity of matter, Northeast Ohio was reborn through a singularity of emotion spanning the country from Akron to Cleveland to California’s Bay Area. As LeBron hit his final free throw, people started to believe in an impossible truth that was borne in that moment: WE DID IT! Emphasis on we — “Cleveland!!! This is for you!” our hometown hero roared with us.
We felt physically higher: leaping in joy, arms in the air, bellowing our voices hoarse as we howled skyward at the full Father’s Day moon. Climbing up — on top of cars, firetrucks, lamp posts, trees, buildings… No one knew what to do with themselves, only knowing that they’d been uplifted someplace they’d never been before. I saw grown men cry. Strangers weeping in each others’ embraces. High fives galore. Battle cries, cries of love and vindication. One of the most beautiful things in this world is when people’s inhibitions and judgement are erased by a common goal or interest, whether by sport, music… pick your pleasure. This instance was immense in scale as pure, unadulterated elation was shared between thousands of my community members and myself. Nirvana.
The thing is, I was always the selfish one. I didn’t want just any old championship to break the Cleveland Curse — it had to be the ULTIMATE championship, one with a beautiful story like the one LeBron and Ohio just wrote. “Normal” wasn’t good enough, I thought; the moment had too much potential for greatness. I’m so glad that my wish came true, and if it’s been confusing for me to have written to this point about all the people and things I saw on Sunday night when prompted to explain what the Cavs’, Cleveland’s, championship meant to me personally… well… I just did.
Elijah Kim (who hosted an epic Game 7 watch party at his place)
The Cavs winning this championship is a mind-numbing experience for me. Ever since I committed to cheering for them since I moved to Ohio from South Korea in 2003, they were my favorite sports team. Through the heartbreaks of losing the 2007 Finals in four games, The Decision, injuries to Love/Irving in the 2015 Finals, and plenty of others, this championship vindicates it all for me.
My brother went to Case Western and I used that as a pretty good excuse to traverse my way up to Cleveland when I could to see the Cavs, even though at this point, I was watching a LeBron-less team, cheering for Alonzo Gee, Christian Eyenga, Samardo Samuels, Luke Harangody, Manny Harris, etc. I didn’t care if the Cavs won, I just wanted them to embody the city that they played for. Many nights, they fell short on the scoreboard, along with the effort.
When LeBron decided to come back, I was in an extremely dark place of my life. I had just ended my most serious relationship to date, was helping my financially struggling family get through joblessness/debt, and worked multiple odd opportunities in addition to my financial analyst role at a commercial bank. A game between four lines of 94 by 50 feet gave me solace and hope as I lived life, day by day. The Cavs were more to me than just a basketball team; they were a part of my struggle and me.
My first piece I ever wrote on C:tB was a guest piece via Nate Smith in January of 2014. Although I didn’t get full time contributor status, I kept on nagging him and Tom to give me a shot and I’m glad I did. Contributing to Cavs: The Blog has given me the opportunity to share with people what I love, the Cavs.
Through the thick and thin and ups and downs, I’m glad I didn’t give up on the Cavs. Watching them, reading about them, speculating about them, cheering for them, and most importantly caring about them gave me hope and happiness to get through my darkest times.
Words can’t describe the joy and happiness I feel in seeing the Cavaliers win the championship. I couldn’t be more proud or happier about them. I wouldn’t trade my fanhood of the Cavs for any other team because no one will ever truly understand how much this team means to me. Everyone in life has struggles and everyone copes with things in different ways. For me, this team helped me overcome things that I couldn’t wish upon my worst enemies; the feelings of being lost and hopeless, struggling to climb upstream to normalcy.
Thank you Cavs for helping me get through it all day by day. There’s no shame in having problems, the shame is to never face them head on.
Cleveland Cavaliers. World Champs.
Mike Schreiner (who watched with his family)
Describing how what this championship means to me is incredibly difficult, because it’s such an enormous feeling. In some ways, it’s almost a justification of a large part of who I am. True fandom isn’t a choice, it’s ingrained in you like any other major personality trait. For me, fandom of Cleveland sports has been part of my life since birth, as I arrived in this world a week early after my father talked my very pregnant mother into walking to the upper deck of the old Municipal Stadium to take in an Indians game. As most of you know, there was no need to walk to the upper deck in old Muni as seats were more than available on every level. Sports are a huge part of my family, and a way in which we come together, even as my brothers and sisters have moved all over the country. I’m old enough to remember The Drive, The Fumble, and The Shot. I was a freshman in college when Jose Mesa blew it in the ninth inning of the 1997 World Series, and was so upset that I couldn’t get myself together to go to class the next day. I hadn’t been able to watch the highlights of that game until I attended the premiere of Believeland on March 29.
All of the heartbreak definitely had an effect. There were so many times that I wondered if I would ever see a Cleveland team win a world championship, times were I wondered if I should try rooting for other teams, and even times where I thought about giving up on professional sports altogether. But I couldn’t. The programming is too strong. Instead—despite the Cleveland jokes from college friends and overall condescension form much of the national media—I became a more ardent follower, writing for this blog as a way of sharing my thoughts on the Cavaliers with people who care as much as I do. Writing for this blog has been a blessing, but the research involved means that we know so much—sometimes too much—about how good our team is and the chances of them winning the ultimate prize.
That’s why this championship is so amazing to me. It proves that being a Cleveland fan is worth it. That it’s okay to pass it on to my own children. They’re just four and two years old, so they don’t really understand what the big deal is, but it’s something I’ll be able to tell them about and share with them as they grow. This championship is proof that anything can happen in sports, and that it’s good to have faith, no matter what BPI says. It shows that it’s okay to care about something as trivial as professional sports, and that my home is just as capable of winning as any other city. I have cried tears of joy four times in my life; during my wedding, at the birth of each of my children, and when the Cleveland Cavaliers won the 2016 NBA Championship. That is how important this title is to me.
David Wood (Who watched with the good people of North Carolina)
On the night of game seven, I was drinking Miller High Life. Not because I hate myself, but because that’s what I drank when the Cavs outscored the Warriors 112-97 over a period of 48 minutes in game five at the Oracle.
I was wearing the same Kyrie “double nickle” shirt, black jeans, faded all orange retro Cavs hat, and purple Jordans. I even brought the long sleeve henley I had on the night of game five to my friend’s house, despite it being 85 degrees (I’m in North Carolina), just in case the Cavs needed an extra boost at half time.
I stood up the last five minutes of the game, because that’s what I did during game five. With the Cavs down 87-86, they outscored the Warriors 7-2 and won. James had a savage block that made me question if he’s even the same species as me. Kevin Love acted like Stephen Curry was the negative end of a magnet, and he was the positive end when he stuck to Curry for a full possession forcing him to brick a three. It was the best defensive sequence he has ever played. And, Kyrie danced with the ball as Curry followed him closely before launching up a 3-pointer that shattered the Warriors’ 73 win season.
I was watching the game with people who had no vested interest, a Knicks fan and some Hornet lovers. They asked me why I smelled like cigarettes and week old sweat. I told them I had the same clothes on. I told them I had to drink High Life. I told them I had to stand. They ripped on me the appropriate amount.
And, when the Cavs won, they fist bumped me and watched me pop champagne (I had a feeling I’d need it so I pre-planned) while yelling explicit words. Cleveland won and that’s all that matters. Everything I did was justified because Cleveland won. They dominated for four minutes and thirty-seven seconds, forget the previous three and a half quarters.
Cleveland getting this championship is about being able to forget the circumstances surrounding the past 50-plus sports seasons and just being an unabashed fan. I’m We’re justified.
The Warriors had the better regular season and story.The Cavs struggled during the year. Even during the playoffs, there was talk about them running too much isolation stuff and not being able to defend at high enough of a level. There was talk that no team has ever come back from being down 3-1 in the Finals. That doesn’t matter to me though, they’re the champions. “They’re the best team from this past year. LeBron is the best player in the league. Kyrie is better than Curry. Tristan Thompson is better than Draymond Green. Dan Gilbert is a baller.”
When people question any of those statements, I can just say, “Who won the title.” And, it’s all because the Cavs were better than the Warriors for the final few minutes of one final game. I’ll never mention that though.
Cory Hughey (who watched the game with Mojo)
I apologize, but I need to take a moment to release my veins on the floor. I just can’t deal with all of this emotion at once. I’ve been suffocating on anger, sadness, loss and regret for months. The Cavs have been my subterfuge for years, and as much as I wanted to quit them after the Blatt firing and LeBron’s game of poking us with a stick digitally, I just couldn’t because I needed them to get away from it all.
This blog isn’t just a soap box to shout on for me. It’s a personal time capsule. I was brought aboard just after coming home from California in late 2014. My return wasn’t greeted by a pep rally, and I didn’t promise any championships. I came home because I knew that my parents were rusting without me, and that neither had much longer. I lived with my father for the first couple months after I came back. The Case for Citizen Sans was penned from the snug middle bedroom of his home.
Two mornings after my girlfriend cheated on me with a former coworker, I was finishing up an appropriately themed recap from the April 9th loss to the Bulls. As I was formulating the final paragraph that would tie it all together, I received a text from my sister asking if I was awake. A moment later I found out that our father had passed in the night, and that I was halfway to no longer being a son. Nate finished the article, and I went to quake with my family.
All of the emotions from April had a reunion for me during Father’s Day weekend. I returned to the Crab Co and worked with my ex on Saturday. My hands shook for an hour because what I had wanted to put them on for months was just through the bar door. I barely slept that night. Two hours tops. I woke up early to put together a 5 on 5 before work. Work. Work was an absolute nightmare. Our point of sale system crashed during a huge sale. I threw up from my nerves three times. I just couldn’t keep anything down. I couldn’t eat, because I was being eaten.
I debated going out to watch the game, but I didn’t know if I should be in public for it. Would I throw up again? Would I cry? A part of me wanted to just sleep through the game and awake to realize that my world was now in technicolor in the Emerald City. I watched the game alone with Mojo, but my anxiousness didn’t settle a bit. At one point I wished that I had more fingers, so that I’d have more nails to bite.
I was pretty emotionless throughout the game until Kyrie hit the final three. That’s when I believed. That’s when I rose to my feet. Of course it couldn’t just be easy on us. LeBron had to go crashing to the floor and hold his shooting wrist before a trip to the line to make it a two possession game with 10 seconds left. That’s so Cleveland. Of course he missed the first one. That’s so Cleveland.
When the second went in, tears just fell from my face. No sobbing. No bawling. They just fell. I knew it was over, all of it. The curse. The Mistake by the Lake. The sports induced self-hate. The Cavs just proved that the impossible is only impossible, until it’s not. They defied history. No one, and I mean no one outside of Ohio gave them a shot, and they won the damn title anyway. That’s so Cleveland. I’ve needed the Cavs to make me forget for years. Sunday night, I needed them to remember how good life really can be.
Mallory Factor (who hosted a watch party with friends in New York)
In the seconds, minutes, and hours following the *moment* (which, by the way, felt like an eternity) I kept waiting for the tears to come. By the time I finally fell asleep at around 3:30, I experienced many emotions, including what can only be described as euphoria, still, I fell asleep with dry cheeks.
That was not the case by bedtime Monday.
Without, hopefully, sounding trite and reductive, literally everyone in the world has their story. How moments in our lives come together to form that story is what, I think, makes the camaraderie of sports so substantial.
In the days preceding the finals, many of my fellow C:tBers shared their recent stories of hardship and sorrow. The common thread has, and will likely continue to be, that, through this kinship of sport, everyone found some, however small, sense of solace. And that is substantial.
Though I haven’t really shared mine, I, like them, have gone through my own set of sadness over the past nine months. In September, I lost my uncle, without question the most significant male figure in my life. Very shortly after began the slow, painful end of a very important relationship. To put it simply, I was a mess.
Unlike my cohorts, who found comfort in basketball, I was essentially inconsolable and, for the most part, shut out most of the outside world.
While losing the relationship was a major moment in my life, the continuous, nagging ache of losing my uncle did (and still does) stand with me as a much more impactful moment in my life. I had planned, in the days proceeding my uncle’s death, to write an obituary similar to the one I wrote for his father on C:tB in early 2013, but the sadness from both the death and the relationship was too much. I deeply regret not having done that.
I am blessed, in sports terms, to be born and raised in New York. I’ve experienced a lot of winning in my life – the Yankees, the Giants, the Rangers – all teams I was brought up loving. But above all those teams are the Cavaliers and Ohio State – Uncle Ron bestowed on me many things, none more significant than my love for those two teams. I’ve always felt a connection to Cleveland – my mom was born and raised on Mount Carmel Road. Many years later, I chose by my own volition to attend Case Western Reserve University. But no single person did more to connect me to a city (and a state) than my mother’s brother-in-law, who adored those teams through good and (mostly, and sometimes agonizingly) bad, but always with passion. Though the experience of watching a game with Uncle R could sometimes be infuriating (seriously – if I had a dime for every time he cursed Byron Scott, I’d be loaded), but we all continued to watch with him, in the hopes of experiencing his joy when they finally won.
Which brings me back to Sunday night. Sitting on the floor of my apartment, moments after Mo Speights hoisted a last-ditch three, as my friends jumped on top of me and everyone hugged, I immediately thought about my uncle. But my emotions were so wild, and the moment so surreal, that I couldn’t fully process everything. The first thing my mom, who is also a huge Cleveland sports fan, and I said when speaking after the game was that my uncle would’ve been overjoyed. I know this would’ve meant the world to him.
15 hours later, sitting at desk at work, listening to Cleveland sports radio – hearing the tearful stories from Clevelanders of all types about how much this win meant, I found emotional clarity. Like them, and I am sure you as well, this win meant a lot to me for deeply personal reasons. For the city I’ve heard so many stories about from my mom, who loved, for the in which city I spent four amazing college years. For my mother Fran, who no longer has to call me up after an Indians loss, a Browns blowout, or a lost Cavs season saying “there really is something wrong with Cleveland. We are cursed.” For the me of 2011 who, while working the miserable job of a consultant at an insurance company, started writing for C:tB as an outlet for the creativity I had to hold back while working my day job. For the me of 2016 who spent so, so many dark, depressed nights on my couch, alone, watching the Cavs, while trying to mend a broken heart while trying to understand and cope with the loss of a father figure.
Above all else, this win meant a lot to me for my uncle. As the seconds ticked away, I am 100% certain that every single family member I have thought about Ronald, Ron, Uncle Ron, Papa, dad. Leave it to sports to help you find the answer: his mind and body may be gone, but, more clearly than ever, his soul remains. All it took was a 52 year draught ending in historic fashion to remind me.
Ben Werth (who watched in the middle of the night from another country)
The initial elation of winning a championship has been replaced by a dull sense of confused satisfaction. When I finally fell asleep past 6:45 AM here in Deutschland, I literally dreamt that the Cavs had actually lost. I woke up with the familiar feeling of failure only to be reminded by my phone that, indeed, the Cavs are champions. This is going to take some time to process. Kyrie can be a great defender. LeBron can win a title against an all-time great team completely on his own terms. Having evidence that contradicts previously held beliefs forces me to change my opinion about many things, and I will get there. Most people won’t. The media is already babbling about LeBron leaving again. Apparently the specific words in his letter that explained how he wants to raise his family in NE Ohio don’t register. His words don’t support their narrative. Clevelanders will have to find something else to take pride in other than being “most tortured fans”. We will get there.
After LeBron’s letter, I wrote a piece for the blog about what it meant for Cleveland to be a winner. I would see apparel from my hometown all over the world. A Cavs hat would be a common sight so many thousands of miles away from home. It has come true. Just last week, I saw a pair of Germans rocking Cavs jerseys. When they think of Cleveland, they don’t think of a river burning or heartbreak. They simply think of success. Now, it won’t only be “best player in the world”, it’s “best team in the world”. To them, Cleveland is a destination, not something to be flown over.
I’ll go play pickup tonight and the guys will probably tease me about my previous desire to trade Kyrie Irving. They will congratulate me on the championship as if it is something that I have accomplished. I will take it all and maybe this feeling of sports success will grow more comfortable. Maybe not. After a lifetime in a dead marriage, this new winning partner could bring out the best in me. Or more likely, just give me subtle joy as I continue my same life path. Either way, I’m excited to find out.
Tom Pestak (who watched with his Wife)
Much like LeBron packed his “Ultimate Warrior” T-Shirt for the flight to Oakland, I had an inkling that a Game 7 upset was a real possibility. I privately told friends that I gave the Cavs a 49% chance of winning – it just felt like the Cavs had a combination of physical aggression balanced by a calm sense of destiny, whereas the Warriors were coming unraveled. This inkling led to some unfamiliar thoughts throughout the layover: “What will this mean? How will I react?”
It’s been different that I expected. After a few primal screams and joyous hugs with my wife, I didn’t melt into a puddle of tears (I thought I would) over the memories of being 6 and listening to Joe Tait under my pillow while pretending to sleep: “Price…over time line into the ford court…dribbles right-passes to Ehlo-now to Nance. Nance…looking…looking…hands it off to Price..totheline totheLANE – scoops it up AND IN. And now we have a whistle…and what?” (Lake Business Products Jingle rushes back)
I really didn’t have a lot of nostalgia. Didn’t think about my journey as a fan. I felt good for the players and coaches, got a little teared up watching J.R. Smith’s press conference, but this most unlikely comeback has simply given me a slow-burning cigar of joy. I’ve been delving into the significance of this victory from so many angles. There’s so much depth. There’s the NBA History angle of coming back from 3-1. There’s the equally impressive feat of knocking off a 73-win team that seemed unbeatable and talked a lot of trash after going up 3-1. There’s the satisfaction in witnessing LeBron’s mythical journey come full circle, cementing his legacy as one of the greatest of all time. Then there’s waking up to the realization that 31-year-old SportsScience-Guinea pig LeBron just spent two months vanquishing opponents not only with basketball genius and veteran craftsmanship, but with ludicrous chase down blocks and falling-to-a-stop-before-getting-up-and-REsprinting-past-everyone-alleyoops! The rumors of his athletic demise were greatly exaggerated. It’s just awesome. EVERYTHING IS AWESOME! I’ve evolved from a roaring, hyperventilating fanatic that just vanquished simple-minded Kobe fans on message boards to someone managing a tight-knit Cavs community and doing weekly radio segments to analyze the Cavaliers and the NBA-at-large.
Only now do I realize: it’s so nice to do this without the latent anxiety. I spent all season hand-wringing about Kyrie’s fit with LeBron. They won. Kyrie was phenomenal. I used to write and talk Cavs like I was a zoo tour guide – “and over here we have a Dellavedova from The Outback. His ability to play downhill in the pick and roll forms a symbiotic relationship enabling LeBron’s metamorphosis to a Karlicus Maloneius.” But part of me felt like I wasn’t just edutainment for the guests – I also had to scare them about endangered species and worry about the welfare of the animals, even though I’m not a vet. Now I feel like a grinning 6-year-old oohing and awing at the cheetahs and giraffes and wombats and of course, the Lion. No anxiety, no fear, just appreciation and joy.
EG (who watched with his family… both present and in spirit)
When I woke up Sunday morning, I expected to be filled with the emotions I’d grown accustomed to feeling on monumental game days as a Cleveland sports fan. Alternating somewhere between blind optimism and overwhelming dread. Strangely, I found myself to be inexplicably calm. Maybe it was because it was also Father’s Day, and I had other things occupying my consciousness… or maybe it was the sense of finality that comes with a Game 7.
I felt this vibe flow through me as I wrote the Preview/Live Thread. I thought of every important game I had watched throughout my life (Cavs, Browns and Indians), and how so many of them were shared with the architect of my love of Cleveland sports… my dad. He had always been there for me after the inevitable defeat to help console me when the unthinkable happened. That was my dad. An un-extinguishable positive in a hurricane of negativity. I thought about what he’d say to me about this game if he were still here… and so I shared that sentiment at the end of that post.
I spent the day enjoying being a father to my own kids… relishing the time with them. Before the game, I went to put on my “All-In” Cavs shirt… then stopped when another caught my eye. A simple black t-shirt with a simple message printed on it… “Everything Happens For A Reason.” That became my simple uniform of choice. When it came time for tip off, I felt a tangible kinship and connection with the entire C:tB on-line family. I wanted to soak in every moment, every comment, every emotional high and low so I could do my best to capture it in victory or defeat. The calmness prevailed. My son, like me when I was his age, had a hard time watching the game. His Cleveland sports misery wasn’t as deep as mine, but he could sense he might be at the beginning of a long road of heartbreak. My daughter, still new to the experience, had less of a sense of dread. I wanted to be that calm in the storm for them both… and I surprised myself by doing just that.
It’s hard to put a finger on the moment when the realization hit that the Cavs were going to emerge victorious and end this half a century drought. Maybe it was LeBron’s epic block… maybe it was Kyrie’s dagger… or maybe Kevin’s amazing defense on Curry. Whatever it was, I could just imagine my dad’s words… “They’re gonna do it, son. They’re finally gonna do it.” When the final buzzer sounded and Kevin rushed to embrace LeBron… I did the same with my kids. I must have hugged my son for five minutes… tears running down our faces. I felt an unfettered joy surge through me. Joy that he’d always have something I never got to share with my dad. Joy that he’d be able to share this someday with his children. I looked to the heavens and said “They did it, dad. They finally did it.”
Afterwards, a friend of mine from here in Los Angeles texted me congratulations. He told me to enjoy it, since it might be the only one we get. I wrote back, “You don’t get it, man. All we ever needed or wanted was one.” And it’s true. One is all it took.
Thank you Cavs. Thank you Cleveland. Thank you dad.
Kevin Love enjoying the fans as well. He wore that WWE belt at all times. He has a new nickname with men yelling & chanting, “Stone Cold Love, Stone Cold Love”
Nice pics !!!! Hope you are feeling better today also.
Yes Much better. Thanks! Muscle relaxer helped a lot yesterday.
Nice pic of Tristan up high riding with his family.
I tried to resize pic but it got pixilated too much. My original is really good.
Shump was playing it cool doing Usain Bolt motions.
Okay Pics are on their way. Dan Gilbert waves to crowds as they chant ‘Thank You Dan” repeatedly. JR was the 1st Cav to lead. He absolutely loved the crowd. He jumped off floats, shook hands with fans. Many women screaming to grab him. Kyrie also very engaging with the crowd. A woman just pulled off her shirt in this pic & threw it at him. He laughed. He kept turning around to crowds waving & taking pictures.
Interesting to listen to Obama talk to TLue. TLue says about Kyrie: “The biggest thing with Kyrie is to not listen to the median and listen to me and be aggressive and score the basketball.” The end of the interview is amazing too. Obama starts talking smack about JR SMith not wearing a shirt!
http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/video/teams/cavaliers/2016/06/23/1466714109205-160623-tlueandpres.mov-611869
He talks smack to Curry too. I really hate that he seems to think he is at same level as them basketball wise. Yeah I know it’s “joking” but kinda annoying. But on the positive note, good he congratulated them.
Hmm.. Dion+others+picks to Sixers for eithe Okafor or Noel????????
Or Both.
Great article! Especially for those with a connection to the eastside.
http://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/cleveland-cavs-lebron-nba-championship/
Wow. I have to think this means that either A) the Thunder are blowing it up, or B) clearing the decks to add someone besides durant. That being said, I don’t want to have to play Ibaka.
I agree and it seems that they are trying to make their moves now before KD decides to go elsewhere.
Isn’t Ibaka signed to just this coming season? What it probably means is that they are going to not match Dion. Could be a great trade for the Thunder.
And Dion’s world just keeps getting worse and worse
About KD, I don’t think that signing with the Warriors will help him in the long run and I even wonder if his agent will prefer that. Obviously he will have to sacrifice a bit money wise and not being the main man on that team and that could affect his brand if you ask me. But let’s say he decides to join the Spurs. If he goes to the Spurs he could easily be the main man offensively if needed and I don’t think Leonard or Aldridge would get mad about it. At the other hand with the Warriors… Read more »
Except ibaka was a huge part of beating them. He’s a perfect big for the new nba. Another part of it might be just how weak their bench was. Dion/Vic and you can just keep attacking.
He’s the perfect big for defending Curry and keeping Draymond out of the paint against the Death Squad.
Sam Presti Ibaka for Sabonis and Oladipo! Wow. I love Oladipo, but what a dumb trade for probably the most perfect power forward in the NBA.
The thunder needed a consistent third scorer but I’m not sure Oladipo can be that guy. I wonder how this will affect KD’s decision.
KD is not on LeBron’s level, but I imagine given his free agent status, OKC almost had to pass this trade by him. If they didn’t, OKC’s ownership and gm have some very big ones.
Dipo is probably a Dion replacement…
I agree Nate. OKC was right there in the WCF to Game 7. Biggest positive of that team was their length and athletic ability. I see it as a step back.
Looks like nobody wanted Boston’s 3rd pick…
Poor Danny and Simmons. And now the Thunder apparently just ‘Ainged’ Orlando. Danny’s feelings must be hurt.
Did anyone either at the parade or watching on TV see Bernie K? I thought he was supposed to be it. We say Byner with the Cavs’ coaches, but wondered if we missed Bernie, or if he didn’t attend as planned.
He was there. Low key, I think.
Obama was too
I hope Durant goes to the Warriors. I don’t think he fits there. Takes too many shots for their liking. I’d gladly let Durant take 10 each of Curry and Klay’s shots. He is also, as someone below pointed out, soft. Also, LeBron consistently owns KD. Let them mess with their team chemistry that was such a positive for them this year.
He may just take Barnes’ and Bogut’s shots…no idea how it would affect team chemistry, but it would make them unstoppable on offense. Imagine the easy shots Durant would get with Curry and Klay doing their extreme spacing.
If it would hurt GS, I think it would be only after next year, when they’d be up against it on salary.
I totally agree. Another ball dominant scorer is the last thing the W’s need.
People vastly overreact over a finals loss, especially this one. You had two teams play to a virtual standstill for 334 minutes over 6+ games; the last two minutes could have gone either way. The best thing for both teams to do for next year is nothing. You’re already on top.
LeBron is skipping the Olympics. Thank goodness! Like Tommie Lee Jones in The Fugitive, he could use the rest.
Great decision. Hope Irving does the same. If there was ever an Olympics to skip, it’s this one. I’m half expecting some athlete to be the victim of a kidnapping/ ransom situation from some favaela cartel.
Sure agree !!!! In fact, I hope he only averages 30-32 mins next year even if we lose more games. In the immortal words of LBJ, “I will play game seven anywhere.” Home court is great, but not if LeBron comes into the playoffs less rested than this year.
Great decision. He NEEDS rest. Better yet, use that time to train again with Hakeem, a dribbling coach and a shooting coach. Sharpening those blades can only do wonders for his longevity.
He will definitely need his jumper back soon if he plans to stay relevant. I believe he has maybe 2 more years of explosiveness. But I also believe that winning the chip this year will make him play more relax (hopefully) from now on. I would like to see him just enjoy the game more and just play basketball with no over thinking about when to shoot or not.
Reports from bay area that Durant is going to pick Warriors if he decides to leave OKC and warriors are in hot pursuit of Durant.
Question to my Cavs friends, why is Cavs not pursuing Durant ? Understand cap doesn’t make it easy but warriors pursuing with the intention of dumping few contracts and not signing RFAs.
To the best of my knowledge, there is no way the Cavs could clear enough salary to sign Durant. And it’s not as if he’s interested in Cleveland, anyway. The Warriors have guys that they can cut loose, and they have Curry who is currently on a ridiculous contract.
I’d be pretty surprised if Durant doesn’t kick the can down the road one more year in OKC. (And be highly paid, as far as kicking the can money goes…)
Yeah, Cavs don’t really have the flexibility to do it. Would need some type of sign and trade with Love maybe? But OKC probably wouldn’t want that. And Durant probably doesn’t want to play with LBJ given some redundancies int their games. And, to be honest, I might be kind of happy if Ws start tweaking things. Their team is great because of a very unique mix of talent and chemistry. Adding Durant would not necessarily make them better. I mean, obviously it could. But it could be a strange team with him. More ISO, less ball movement, which takes… Read more »
Thought it was no brainer for Durant to take on 2 year contract Lebron style with OKC. It seems like he wants to go to a place now for long term even if he takes on a short term contract. As per highly paid, I think silicon valley and investment opportunities can be a lure for someone who already made millions. I am not cap expert but wouldn’t you not be able to dump Love’s contract somehow to get Durant ? Besides with Lebron opting out, so technically you can sign Durant as FA and then go over cap to… Read more »
You can’t do the last thing you said. All existing players have a “cap hold” that determines the teams overall space under the cap EVEN BEFORE all current players officially re-sign. That is designed to stop the type of move you describe (greating cap space by manipulating the SEQUENCING of when you sign people).
I agree that Durant should ride with OKC for 2 more years. I would be surprised if he goes GSW. But who knows? Also, these reports are all kind of crazy. I take it with a grain of salt for now.
Last point on this, my understanding of “cap hold” is only until a player becomes a FA, that is if Lebron opts out, he becomes FA. I am surely missing something here. Thanks for your input.
Hmm. I think in that scenario you would need sufficient space to sign BOTH LBJ and Durant. But not 100% sure.
No, that’s not how cap holds work. Cap holds are after he becomes a free agent. You must renounce that players bird rights and other rights you have to re-sign him to clear that players cap hold. Here’s a good resource.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap05.htm
You’ve been drinking the Joe Lacob KoolAid. Why can’t Durant invest in Silicon Valley from OKC, where it’s much cheaper to live, with much lower taxes?
Nate, I live in Bay area, so I can tell you , If you are around, you will get great investment opportunities, Lacob or not.
I wish I’d have gotten in early on Hooli.
Silicon Valley is the best comedy since Curb. Maybe better.
This is the best: Durant will be sitting on quarter billion in lifetime earnings when he retires. Part of Warriors’ pitch is “we can help you multiply that.”
So basically their pitch is “we’ll present you with investment opportunities completely illegal under the CBA.”
Wait, so bay area papers that desperately want you to click their links are posting stories that will make you click their links!? That’s amazing news.
lol, no Nate, that has been a talk for a while that warriors should dump Barnes, dump few expiring contracts. BTW, CBS sports and some other national media is carrying these rumors more than local media.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-kevin-durant-to-meet-with-teams-in-los-angeles-interested-in-warriors/
Yes, it’s been click bait for a while. I welcome it. Would love to see the Dubs get softer.
I’d love to see that happen. The last thing the Dubs need is a ball-dominant scorer to take the rock out of Curry’s hands. It looks wonderful on paper, but unless the NBA starts using two balls at once, that helps them in no way whatsoever.
I’ll chill out about Warriors troll. They can spout whatever nonsense they want and I will not reply. Good deal? It’s up to the rest of you to show them why they are wrong.
I would be stunned if Durant left OKC for Golden State. I think it’s click bait. How many supposed informed commentators – I am looking at you Screaming A – said LeBron might leave Cleveland only a day after they won the championship? More clickbait by Screaming A. Another idiotic click bait had LeBron’s kids enrolled at a school in Brentwood, so that meant he was going to the Lakers. Total BS. The Warriors already have their alleged “superstar” in Curry, so let the mouthpiece dangler deliver for once in the finals, which he has failed to do two years… Read more »
Curry did deliver in 2015 finals with 26pts, 5 rebs, 6 asts, 2 stls and clutch shooting.
I do share the same opinion about Screaming A…
Curry had slightly better numbers last year than this year. That is correct. It’s also correct he didn’t carry his team as a true superstar does, and of course Iggy won the MVP with only good not great numbers since he helped slow LeBron…….who was without Love and Irving. Curry had his Batman in Klay, and sidekicks in Green/Iggy both years and still didn’t perform like an MVP should. Virtually anyone outside of the Bay Area agreed with this assessment for both last year and this year. Curry’s halo has been very tarnished as he has shown to be a… Read more »
It’s hilarious that 30 some years on and this playoffs is what got me into snapchat. Today Delly recorded himself high giving the line of what looked like at least a thousand people at some juice bar. In not sure he even did the signing thing, but he walked out into a huge field where the line extended to say hello to everyone. So cool.
Just like 10 minutes from me. LOVE that dude.
The Cavs need to re-sign everyone and add a bruiser or tough guy to the roster for next year. He doesn’t have to be great. I’ll take another quality player that is willing to play for close to the vet minimum.
That’s good enough for me.
Is there no Warriors:the Blog?!!!
Dude, your trolling ratio is WAY higher than his.
Cols – you know I love you. But you are getting a bit aggressive with Ws fan. There are logical arguments to support your points. Just break him down with the logic :)
OK. I’m just sick of her/him being here and telling us how to celebrate. I can assure you that when the Warriors won and called LeBron a crybaby I never would go to a Warriors blog and tell them what and how to celebrate.
We encourage a respectful exchange of ideas around these parts. If we feel he’s being a troll, we’ll police it. You are not “the defender of the blog.”
Sounds like Ainge is up to his usual draft day childish games of leaking crap to all of his media buds. Trying to force other teams to bend over for him and just give him their good players for his garbage draft picks. I hope everyone tells him to pound sand once again…he can go ahead and take his 8 crappy picks. D league needs players, too.
I wouldn’t deal with him unless I was getting *exactly* what I wanted. He can go ahead and keep ‘future all star’ James Young, too.
Celts have been so overhyped. I would love it if they just got another6-8 middle of the road guys. They are an example of the dangers of trying to replicate Ws style without having the two best 3 point shooters of all time.
Yep. It’s not the Warriors style, it’s having great shooters that have to guarded 30 feet out.
My dream is that Ainge trades all his precious ‘assets’ for Boogie, and then Boogie proceeds to destroy the franchise. But it’ll probably never happen since Danny won’t trade Crowder for anything less than Wilt in his prime.
Keep your picks, Danny. It’ll be exciting to watch James Young develop.
Narratives that are dead
1. Delly>Kyrie…hahahahahahahahahah
2. Kawhi>LeBron -yeah, let’s see Kawhi do what LeBron did in the Finals
3. Curry>LeBron – hahahahahahahahahahahaha
4. Blatt>Lue- I can’t believe people actually thought this was true
5. Warriors reinvented basketball
You’re as cocky as Curry. Chill the hell out.
I don’t understand why Cols is wrong for highlighting arguments that ended up being shown to be way offbase. It’s completely fair. If people are allowed to rip the players on here, it should be fair to point out arguments from the meida/pundits/commenters that end up being wrong.
Because none of these things were “way off base” given the information we had at the time (well, except for the warriors re-inventing basketball). I got into a big argument the other day with an anti-sportsball person who basically said that the dumbest thing about sports was that they’re “training to see things as zero-sum, which they aren’t.” I disagreed with him at the time because I believe that though sports are silly and arbitrary, there is something redeeming about them in that they force people to strive for excellence in the process of their personal and team improvement, they… Read more »
No winning 73 mostly meaningless games is not as awesome or impressive as winning a title.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/1e/1e48392d8df59bcfbc11f7decbcac7a1155839151e5fece526e011d44ccd468e.jpg
Love that movie
Shocking.
You are just mad that Kyrie was a hero considering you spent hundreds of hours bashing him and telling us that Delly, who was unplayable in the Finals, was a better fit for this team.
Argh. Are you capable of discerning nuanced thought, like AT ALL? That’s not what I said, and don’t distill my “hundreds of hours” down to one dopey non-representative sentence. I’m thrilled beyond words that Kyrie improved as a player, IMMENSELY, and that the he and the Cavs figured out how to channel is ridiculous talents into a winning basketball player. Was I wrong? No. I was absolutely right at the time with the things I said. We always said he had to improve or the Cavs weren’t going to win unless they traded him. Well, he freaking improved, but without… Read more »
“Are you capable of discerning nuanced thought at all?”
World’s most obvious rhetorical question right there.
Nate, I agree with everything you say. Great post. And I’ll let Cols defend his own take. I suppose its proof of the gap between us that the very argument you just laid out is precisely the reason I was so annoyed when people said Kawhi was better than LBJ, or Curry was better than LBJ, or Delly was better than KI. I thought/think all of those things were/are wrong NOT because we just won the championship by a tiny margin over a very good team, but because I watched and studied tons of basketball games that contradicted those positions.… Read more »
Some awesome shots from yesterday’s festivities.
http://www.emilyroggenburk.com/clevelandchampionship/
They’re also being sold for a pretty penny, but I may have to get one. I especially like the last one ‘Cleveland’ because it basically shows the entire parade route and accompanying mass of humanity that was there at the parade.
Everything is awesome!
I’d rather have a shot of LeBron blocking Iggy. Or the zillions times he blocked fraud Curry.
I am experiencing a new feeling: I truly don’t give a SH*T about the offseason!! It’s amazing. Rather than nervously staring at Twitter all day, and constantly updating my feed, I just watch youtube clips of The Block and The Dagger and laugh/cry to myself. This so great.
ISO ball for the win. I love it. I’m so glad the Warriors were shown to be frauds. First time they face adversity in two years and they just crumbled.
You’re talking out of your a** with the same kind of disrespect for your opponent that you accuse the Warriors of having. It was an incredible series between two incredible teams. Don’t you get that when you denigrate them you’re making the Cavs’ accomplishment smaller? Not bigger? They weren’t frauds. If that’s the case then the Cavs could only barely beat frauds.
I agree. I denigrates the epic nature of the Cavs victory.
No one denigrating. Ws very good. Just not “best team of all time” good.
No one said they weren’t good. They were very good. They were frauds in the sense of all that “beautiful, reinventing,..etc.” crap that they and others spewed about them. Plus their arrogance was off the charts.
Agree. If warriors were not a great team, Cavs comeback wouldn’t be great in history.
Correction:” Cavs comeback wouldn’t be greatest in history of the game” I do not recall any team win against a team that was this heavily favored. This was astonishing upset.
No team has every come back from 3-1 in Finals. Cavs win was historic either way. Especially with the Cleveland/LBJ history. For me, that was what made it special. It had little to do with whether or not Ws were “best team ever” or just “really good team.” It was epic either way. And, honestly, I am not trying to give hot takes. I have had this opinion for 12 months now (as many here can attest). I honestly think that, in a 7 games series against an elite team, the Ws are a coin toss. I never thought they… Read more »
Hmm. I would disagree with that notion. Cavs are an atypical team that was much better than their regular season record. The regular season is usually much more indicative ofpost season results.
Not when you have LeBron on your team.
@Nate: It’s a good question. I wouldn’t be surprised if, once you get above some threshold (55 wins or so), that regular season wins aren’t super predictive of winning championship. Think about all of the original Cavs/LBJ teams. Or the Sonics back in the 90’s. Or the Spurs in many years. Or those Suns teams. Or the Hawks last year. Basically, to win a championship, you have to beat 1 or 2 really elite teams in a 7 game series. That’s a very different task than regular season. I honestly think Cavs are back to back champs if healthy last… Read more »
Yep. Hot Sauce deserves credit for being correct here.
Warriors played zero elimination games last year even if you want to discount 140 games they won over last two years in regular season. If you want to factor Cavs short handed last year as the reason warriors won, you can say the same for warriors this year, (Curry not being close to 100%, Bogut out etc.. ) You can’t have both ways.
I think both teams earned championship in their respective years., makes sense to respect each team for winning championship.
Nope. You cannot say that Bogut being out and Curry being a bit banged up is the same as not having both Irving and Love. Give us one of those two and it’s over before it even begins last year.
I agree that Ws had some injuries this year, and I totally agree its unfair to not acknowledge all injuries when doing the comparison. But I think its pretty clear that KI missing 6 games and Love missing all 7 is a much bigger health issue than Bogut missing 2. Bogut played 10-15 minutes a game in the series this year, and was benched last year. The Ws best lineup didn’t feature him and he didn’t play in crunch time. So you have a role player missing 2 games. It’s also worth pointing out Love missed 1 game this year… Read more »
You are forgetting that Curry was playing hurt since 1st round and Love wouldn’t have played big part last year as evident by his impact in this year’s finals. Delly did really well in Kyrie’s absence last year and Cavs lost the game Kyrie played 40+ minutes in last year’s finals. In the end, it is silly to argue about injuries is what I am saying. Cavs deserved to win this year down 1-3 and having to win two games on road on come back. Greatest opponent ever probably makes Cavs win even more brilliant. Warriors deserved to win last… Read more »
Now you are winding into lots of arguments and assertions. The injuries are objective. I noted them above. It is silly to argue the injuries were the same in the two years, or Delly replacing Kyrie offset things, or Love doesn’t matter. Kyrie was aruably the 2nd best player in the series this year behind LBJ. He didn’t PLAY last year. Love was not great, but he played large minutes this year, which was huge for depth. We had Delly and Shump STARTING last year. And JAMES JONES as 7th best player. C’mon man. Again, you can argue Ws are… Read more »
Point of my post was Cavs deserved the ring this year as warriors were last year.
A great regular season team that wilts when the post-season arrives. Cavs stepped up, Warriors stepped down. Now they have a long time to think about how they were such preening arrogant players who couldn’t backup what they were saying.
It’s so great to have beat that cocky mouthy team.
“A great regular season team that wilts when the post-season arrives”
Wrong again. You are talking about a team that won 31 games over last two seasons in playoffs.
And they completely wilted the one time they faced the tiniest bit of adversity. Last year they lucked out by facing opponents who were not healthy at all. This year they faced a team with a healthy Irving and he completely outplayed fraudarrogant Curry.
“And they completely wilted the one time they faced the tiniest bit of adversity”
Wrong again. Trailed 1-2 in two series last season and won.
And this year, before Cavs epic come back from 1-3, Warriors came back from down 1-3 to win against OKC in western conference finals. If you want to bring in cavs not healthy as reason, warriors lost because Curry was not healthy and bogut was out. You can’t have both ways. Both teams won fair and square in respective years.
Nope. Your title will always have the asterisk of Cavs not healthy now. Cavs healthy destroyed you.
Haha. Yes indeed. The anti-ISO ball paradigm took a hit! I was thinking about Ws. The have played only 2 series against elite teams with healthy rosters in the last 2 years. They are 7-7, with 8 of the 14 games coming at home. Their regular season stuff is completely meaningless when trying to predict who wins a 7 game series. I believed that since last year’s Finals, believed it even stronger after the OKC series, and now think I have enough facts to support the argument. But my friends who are not Cavs fans violently defend the Ws regular… Read more »
I’d say they faced adversity against the Thunder. No idea why you need to be so annoying.
Because there’s a Warriors fan in here trying to tell us how to celebrate and wondering why people hate (especially current and former NBA players) Curry. I’m telling him/her why.
It would be so nice if some of us that were there could post parade pics. It would be so awesome!
Great idea. I just enabled that. Reload and click the camera icon next to the comment window. I’ve set a max size of 1M. So you may need to downsize.
Okay great. The pics I have are from my camera. I’ll see if that works. My son has some cool ones including a little video of MGK also shirtless swinging on the traffic light pole singing.
Rumor has it that Lamb might be available. I’d do it as RJ/Delly insurance. We know RJ is coming back, but there’s always a chance he can’t perform at the level needed due to age. We are pretty sure we will get Delly back, but seeing as he was unplayable for much of the playoffs it’d be nice to have another wing.
The most important part of our offseason is signing JR Smith to a 2-3 year contract.
Lamb would be a addition. We will also need a backup PG or do we expect Mo to be of any significance next year?
What about Moz, anybody thinks he’ll get better? He was almost unplayable during the playoffs because of his slowness, but I still think he can be a very productive 14min type of player.
Man, this offseason needs to address some of our shortcomings.
We have Frye, so there’s much less of a need for Moz. But if wants to come back cheaply, sure. Getting Jefferson and JR Smith back are the keys to the offseason.
I don’t consider Frye a rim protector. I know TT did phenomenal over the playoffs but I want a defensive force downlow.
What about backup PG’s?
Between TT and LeBron rim protection is fine.
I think, sadly, that Delly is probably as good as we can do as backup pg.
Looking online, there’s a good amount of quality backup PG’s that could help this team.
You got D.J Augustine, Aaron Brooks, shit even Lawson. If we could replace Mo with any of them, I think we will be good.
As RJ backups, you got Crawford, Barbosa, Turner and a bunch of good bench players that will offer good scoring and defense. I really like Crawford and it would be sweet to have him on this team..
Just got through all these. Really one of my favorite pieces in the history of the blog. Thank you all so much for sharing from your hearts. You’ve all grown as writers and people in the time that I’ve known you and I’m proud to call you all friends. Thanks so much for sharing and everything you’ve all done (readers included) to make this blog such an unique little corner of the Internet.
No problem. I aim to please.
Damn it. Shed a rare tear after the win, and now after reading this I’ve teared up again. I watched this game via LeaguePass broadcast onto a television at my in-laws place. They are lovely people who i get along with well, but they must have been wondering who this guy that had married their daughter was during this game. I could not sit down. Not even for a second. As we entered the last 5 minutes, I remember pounding on a table. Walking out of the room with my hands on my head, and then quickly returning to watch… Read more »
@Warriors fan: can confirm, “F– Steph Curry” chants have been very popular in Cleveland the last few days, especially on Sunday night. Curry might be a great guy off the court but hey, gotta take 52 years of frustration out on someone, right? On Sunday, there was even a Steph Curry t-shirt laid out on the ground for people to walk by and stomp on. It’s all in good fun. Just sports fan trolling.
Curry by all accounts is disrespected by pretty much all NBA superstars and all former NBA stars. The dude is cocky and seemingly a bad teammate. No one likes him. And I don’t blame them.
That is ignorance.
Nope. Warriors fans and Curry especially think they’ve reinvented basketball and you can tell from their arrogance on and off the court. That’s why LeBron looks at him with such contempt. That’s why Durant and Westbrook giggle at him. That’s why Barkley and all the former stars think he’s an overrated jump shooter.
All the shimmying and cockiness and then that meltdown in the Finals has exposed him as a cocky fraud who only looks good when things are going well but can’t handle even a lick of adversity.
Well you’re getting hyperbolic for sure now. He’s overcome plenty of adversity. And those other guys looked at him like that because they wanted to dethrone him to prove their own legitimacy. Curry is a very very good, top five nba player, two time mvp and finals mvp. He is great. LeBron was better than anyone this playoffs.
Curry is smarmy, cocky, and sanctimoniousn, but almost every great nba player is cocky.
No. He’s a zero-time Finals MVP. He couldn’t get it last year when they won it (and had a sub-par Finals IIRC). And even if GS had won it this year, he wasn’t going to get the MVP this year either. He was sub-par these Finals too. I think he’s a great player but this is now a pattern of him shrinking on the biggest stage and if anyone else had done like he did, they’d be getting tagged too.
He should have gotten finals MVP last year but wouldn’t matter though since he was really good last year.
You’re correct about last year, just went back and looked it up. He only started the Finals last year somewhat sub-par; my bias was leading me to a too subjective conclusion.
Lebron loves Curry and had tons of respect for Curry. He even defended Curry when he was belittled by past legends. Lebron followed Curry from Davidson time. And, Curry had to work his arse off as he faced obstacles at every step, starting from high school to NBA when warriors were in total disarray with Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson as seniors and endured some of the worst coaches plus his ankle injuries that almost ended his career.
I don’t think you know much about Curry.
Obstacles??!! Like having a dad who played in the NBA??? Being born on 3rd base and turning it into a home run is cool. But he never faced anything remotely like obstacles. Dude is an arrogant preening player who stars do not respect at all.
Lebron respects Curry as a player and he did transform the game even if you prefer to ignore. Go to any gym, you will see kids working on handle and shooting, you know, the basketball skills much like how Air Jordan influenced young guys work on dunking the ball. Here is what Lebron said about Curry.
“Steph was definitely the MVP of our league and is the MVP in our league and is a great basketball player, and what he does for this league is amazing.”
“F–Dray” probably would have been more digestible than “F–Curry” for me, IMO, given their personalities.
Draymond is more hate-able in theory, but Curry is the face of their team, gets the media attention, and is the guy attempting to “dethrone our King,” so he’s the easier target. Besides, “F– Draymond Green” doesn’t roll off in the tongue like the other chant, ya know?
I give Draymond some credit. He came to play in Game 7, otherwise the Cavs would have won in a blowout.
And he was a good sport at the end, unlike the pouters who skulked away.
My older brother was at Metro for a work related injury and the 13yo who was shot downtown was on the bed next to him. She was talking to another young girl and apparently the conversation from the friend went something like, “Well you know that n-word gets crazy when he mad.” That’s it. Like that’s completely normal. Really sad when a 13yo is shot and the attitude towards it is rather nonchalant. My brother texted me around 10pm and right around that time was when the girl’s mother came to the room. The daughter asked, “Where the F you… Read more »
Very sad indeed. I was shocked when I heard the age of the kids involved in the shooting.
Yes, 13 and 15. What a crazy world we live in. At that age, I never had the malice these kids nowadays have. There is this internal rage and complete lack of emotions which is extremely scary and downright evil in today’s youth.
Sucks because the boy’s life is also ruined. He will go to juvenile detention (unless he’s tried as an adult) and will more than likely be in/out jail for the rest of his life, unless he dies from gun violence or an overdose.
We’ll all always remember “where we were.” I came back early to Greensboro from a weekend trip with my wife to Asheville, NC and hosted a small neighborhood watch party with another ex-Clevelander, a Tar Heel fan, and my mother, who flew in from Cleveland to watch my kids while my wife and I were gone. Would have loved to have had David Wood back over, but given the outcome of Game 4, it probably made sense we shouldn’t be in front of the same TV for fear of a repeat performance. 8) Afterwards, I made everyone do shots. Even… Read more »
You guys need to check out LBJ’s Instagram post where he’s yelling “oh my god” — so many freaking people!!!
Ventured out to the parade and suffered the long lines of RTA to get there. It was wonderful to see the players individually in their floats. Kyrie and JR absolutely love the crowds. JR was crazy getting off the float to shake hands with fans and women screaming to get at him. So much to say to you all of the events. Unfortunately myself, my son and his friend happen to be at Tower City when the shooting took place. It was terrifying. We heard gun shots and there was mayhem all over the place with people screaming and stampeding… Read more »
Unfortunate that a 13 year old girl was shot.
We had heard there were 2 victims. There was a man that was running out to the street and my son saw him collapse face down. He didn’t get up or move. He wasn’t sure if he was shot or hit his head or had a heart attack. Paramedics came to the scene quick for him. From the reports this morning, of that victim of a young girl, he must have had another type injury. So anyone can understand the sheer pandemonium when you see this. It’s a damn shame someone had to do this on the most joyful day… Read more »
Yeah I just posted above but this shows I was probably right about seeing a guy who got shot. Right in the right thigh. Did anyone see if reports say he was picked up on the Carnegie bridge? Agreed, so angry and upset it had to happen on yesterday of all days. I think Cleveland did a good job of not letting it ruin the day and not giving too much attention. I’m not sure who the 13 year old girl was, but the people involved in the shooting were all young. If the people I saw getting into it… Read more »
TV 63, I just got downstairs to the RTA turnstyles about five minutes before you. Two friends got caught up in the lockdown by you also. The rapid was on lockdown for about 45 minutes. I got on the rapid headed to the parade at W117/Madison around 8:00 am. We had to ride in the wrong direction to the airport, and then just stay on coming back. All the trains by that time headed downtown were just passing the stations full with passengers. It was a battle getting there and back, but worth it.
I’m still pretty shaken by that incident. My neck is killing me. I’ll probably have to go to doctors today or tomorrow. But as far as the 2 hours waits to travel on transit, it was worth it! I agree!
Holy crap TV. Really bummed to hear that. Hope you all are ok. Sorry you had to experience that. Can’t imagine.
I was right around the corner from the shooting, heard two gunshots and saw a crowd of people running away toward me. 99% sure I saw the people who were involved in the shooting, too. There were two gangs jawing at each other about “West Sixth” and “West Ninth” not five minutes before. The cops were right there to respond immediately so it didn’t get too panicked where I was, but everyone cleared away from downtown real fast. I also think I saw a guy who had been shot or hurt in the leg limping by near the Carnegie bridge,… Read more »
I believe you. I hope the little girl is okay and they find that ass.
EG, I feel you man. In 2008 I lost my own father when I was 17 years old. Like yours, my father was “the architect of my love of Cleveland sports.” Over the past few days I’ve been describing him and his love for Cleveland sports to my fiancé who never knew my father. I have distinct and clear memories of my father shouting, pounding, and praising every sports team from the city. I once, at a very young age, asked my father “why do you yell at the screen dad? They can’t hear you.” His scornful look was all… Read more »
If WarriorsFan is still around, I’m not sure if they were chanting about Curry or not but don’t be surprised. How many times do you think LeBron has heard those chants? Thousands, I’d bet. Also, there is a big difference between thinking someone is a good person and liking that person. There are plenty of people I think are good people who I don’t like. Curry is one of those people. As others have pointed out, his demeanor is what drives people away. He comes off as cocky (rightfully so but still irritating), entitled (I’m pretty sure no one on… Read more »
JMay,
“How many times do you think LeBron has heard those chants? ”
I just felt that, that is not the way to celebrate own win by hating on others. Your focus and energy is misplaced if you hate on opponent. You should also respect an opponent. I don’t recall warriors chanting on Lebron(my favorite player but a self annointed king and left cavs earlier for instance if you want to focus on negatives) in last year’s parade. Curry is one of the best person and ideal role model for young guys.
I hope you are using “you” in reference to the people chanting f-Curry, as I was not one of them. Just trying to shed some light.
“You” as in all of us should respect an opponent, not ‘you’.
You don’t say….
http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/06/19/warriors-draymond-green-mocks-cavaliers
We were disappointed with Draymond getting too drunk and all that . But his comment that Cavs suck is not same as “f— Curry”.
““Cavaliers? Nope. We won? Yup. They suck? Yup. We here? Yup. They not? Nope.” ”
Anyway, no need to get too sensitive and feel sorry for multi millionaires, they must know it comes with the territory of being a star in NBA.
A lot of it is just the attitude of Clevelanders and Ohioans feeling like the rest of the world was always out to get us and this moment is a gigantic “F You” to everyone outside looking in. You can see this mentality reflected in the anti-Curry chants, LeBron’s Instagram post for the #haterz, “Ohio Against the World” t-shirts, etc. For once, we’re on top of the world and a 1,000 lb. monkey just got thrown off the back. 52 years of pessimism doesn’t just vanish either lol.
Oh and I wanted to ask you guys since you know about the NBA market is it really possible that Warriors can add KD to their roster? Isn’t that too much? I don’t understand how a player like KD will risk his legacy and maybe even his own brand by playing the 4th wheel on a team that is already run by Klay, Green and Curry. To be honest if I was KD I would sign with the Spurs and it would be a better situation overall for him. KD likes to have his 20-25 FG’s attempts per game so… Read more »
They can do it if they let some guys go. Really doubt that happens this year…KD still likely takes a 1+1 in OKC, and next year the circus comes back to town.
Dunno – KD had those foot issues he may well want the 5 year guarantee, tho I doubt with GSW
Hi guys! Well I’m not from Cleveland but I’m really happy for you guys. You finally got that chip that eluded you for a long time. I believe my last post on Sunday was let Kyrie go at Curry and Kyrie didn’t disappointed me. Now for next season I would like for the Cavs to try to sign a couple wing players 6’7″ or better and 2 way players if possible. On that manner i believe they should give a chance to that MacRae kid I think he can help if they teach him well. The most important thing that… Read more »
Thx to all the CtB writers for the poignant and JR- like honesty in expressing your emotions. We are lucky to have all of you behind this blog. Just got home from the parade. It was a battle getting into and out of downtown, but we made it. From our vantage point, it looked like JR and Kyrie were having the most fun, although all the players were embracing the adulation of over 1 million people. The “one more year” chants in the parade route must have affected RJ.
I wonder if he will stick with his on-stage decision??
I think he will for one more year. He probably said retirement in the heat of the moment.
Re: Kevin Love. The pundits are always speculating about the players that teams will be moving, but Tyronn Lue was interviewed on “Mike and Mike” and he was pretty clear about KLove being on the team next year. “Oh, he’ll be back. We wouldn’t have won the championship without him.”
And he’s right… Love was spectacular in Game 7
I think we could move Love and Shump and potentially be a better team for it. Depending on the haul.
Gotta keep JR tho; that guy is a rare specimen. Strongly want Delly too; tho the finals exposed him a bit.
Love was critical in the game 7 though he didn’t have a great game stats wise.
“Sun’s out, guns out, it’s the summer of JR.” A nice line from Windhorst.
JR was truly in his element today. Summer of JR seems like an accurate line.
With the draft tomorrow, it appears Griff is already working the phones trying to get into the first round. I’m also amazed at the continued rumors that Love might be traded to Boston. I know its a business, but man that would suck to get a championship then a few days later get traded with no chance to defend it – especially one of the big 3. Moz and JFJ are gone. I suspect Kaun will stay, and Williams has already said he plans to opt in. Unclear why Delly didn’t get much time vs. The Warriors, but I suspect… Read more »
Would love a shot at Darnell Valentine, currently slotted for late teens. Looks to me like he could be Draymond lite.
Guys we should sign after we are sure RJ is coming back
1. JR
2. Joe Johnson
3. Delly
4. Vince Carter
No Joe Johnson. I could handle the rest.
It will be nice to get a David west clone..or just get him from spurs
Joe wants a payday, so that ain’t happening. I think Vince should retire.
No JJ. Hmmm.. Also Vince he’s slow.
1. Delly
2. JR
3. A TT duplicate on the cheap.
4. Back to back Champs!! Hahaha
To hell with JJ… Cavs weren’t good enough for him and he missed out on his shot at a ring…
Damn straight.
What an awful trade by the Knicks. I love the NBA. Parade, trades, draft tomorrow.
Eh. I think it’s blah both ways. The guys the Knicks gave up suck. The guy they got back sucks.
As I read to keep up on stuff, every time I see the draft mentioned, the 46 years of Cleveland failures in me starts to get all excited for the draft, until I remember “Wait a minute! We just won. I don’t have to care about this right now.”
So now what are we going to do? Haha the long wait until next season begins now.
Bring back the whole team, possibly find a wing defender if possible (it probably isn’t). Make it to the Finals again.
I’d bet on Shump being a better version of himself next year…
Hard to imagine him being worse, honestly…
McRae!!
Lebron dropping F bombs!!
Lebron throwing shade the whole time lol, especially with playing like a man or so when he was talking bout Kevin lol
“We apologize for the language” afterwards. Ha!
We got RJ back!!!!!
Now re-sign JR and we are golden for next year.
The Damon Jones shout out inspired me to look up the famous red suit picture. Look who was hanging out with him…
http://blogcdn.champssports.com/assets/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-10-at-11.52.34-AM-846×450.png
Goosebumps as they announce LeBron…
Rj coming back for 1 more year!
So glad RJ reconsidered!
Seems like a cool guy to have on a team. All he has to do is bring some smart bench minutes.
Cavs players lost it laughing when griff said Cleveland is now defined by the block, the 3 and the D. Lol
That’s beautiful. And props to Kevin from our commentariat for noting in the game thread those big plays from each of the Big Three.
Yeah, lol. JR was looking around like, “What did I do?”
Delly In Things
Things are looking up for Matthew Dellavedova. Not only is the Cleveland Cavaliers guard a newly minted NBA champion, but he’s also got his own signature sneaker releasing this year. Today, the Australian gave his Snapchat followers a sneak preview of the shoe with the above image. The model, called the Peak Delly 1, looks to have his “Delly” nickname on the tongue. Dellavedova is out in Cleveland for the Cavs’ championship parade today, so it’s possible more photos of these sneakers will emerge as the day progresses. –
That county commish speech…yikes
Jr and shump, looking like this dude crazy!
What did he say?
Talking smack about draymond and curry.
Yeah, that was awful
Finally got time to read these. Thanks so much for sharing all these stories. EG’s last word is SO right: ” “You don’t get it, man. All we ever needed or wanted was one.”
yes yes yes.
Rose to Knicks. If they sign Dwight, they could be pretty good….for a year, anyway. Really wonder if the Bulls are going to try to deal Butler…their front office doesn’t seem like the blow it up type…
No way that works in the triangle
Thanks guys. Thanks EG. I was thinking of you and your dad when we won.
Thanks JoeyB… yeah the definition of a bittersweet moment
There will never be a celebratory parade like this one again. Glad people are having such a good time and hope for a safe day for all.
Tom and I bailed.got to see everyone then headed over to Ohio city for some Sammiches at plum cafe next to platform brewing.
Okay… this wait is officially ridiculous! I’ve gotta go get some work done fellas… Hope the rally is as amazing as the parade!
EG: I think a rendition of the song, “The Impossible Dream” would be fit to describe LBJ’s quest to win a championship in Cleveland . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI7VeIA7ZI
One could make a great LBJ highlight film using this song.
Here: Luther Vandross did it – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuhDlUmEh-4 To dream the impossible dream To fight the unbeatable foe To bear with unbearable sorrow And to run where the brave dare not go To right the unrightable wrong And to love pure and chaste from afar To try when your arms are too weary To reach the unreachable star This is my quest To follow that star No matter how hopeless No matter how far To fight for the right Without question or pause To be willing to march, march into hell For that heavenly cause And I know If I’ll only… Read more »
Wow… the off-season has truly begun…
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/745680754043150336
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/745681258211123200
Utah’s part in the bargain…
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/745683184919126016
Atlanta is rebuilding now. They’re not bottoming out but they are really on the rebuild. That team intact will just be a 2nd round fodder until it gets old. Might as well use them as assets while they still are. I can see Horford and/or Korver next.
Indiana improved imo. Teague is just the better player (scoring/playmaking) overall than GH and will help PG better offensively. They still need to improve the bench and the frontcourt with some solid veterans.
Not sure that they’re rebuilding… Schroder is the PG of the future anyway and supplanted Teague even in the playoff series… It was clear that they needed to move Teague for something…
THIS!!!
https://twitter.com/desusnice/status/745674023984578560
If JR and Kyrie started a beef jerky company called, JRKY. Would you all eat it?
Nope. Uncle Mikes or gtfo. :)
Hahahaha
Is Cedi Osman gonna play big minutes for us next year?
I’d be happy just to see him play. Does anyone know if he is coming over next season? No idea what his Euro contract status is. ‘Big minutes’ seems unlikely outside the D league, maybe.
Prolly true, would love to see another young player learn under LeBron.
Great job guys. This is your day as fans.
BTW: Are people really chanting F – Curry ?? Not sure there are many super stars that are more likable than Curry, that is sad if true.
I respect the game of the Warriors and hope for a long rivalry. But I very much dislike curry, klay and draymond. Their attitudes and body language on and off court is infuriating unless you are a warriors fan.
I remember a map of state where Curry was seen as MVP, every state but two had Curry has MVP. The two states that didn’t have Curry as MVP, Cleveland and Oklahama.
He was definitely MVP of regular season. No doubt. It’s how those three carry themselves and what they say that irritates me.
Those states not thinking he was MVP was pure salt at what they were accomplishing.
I don’t know if people were chanting that or not, but it wouldn’t surprise me. It’s the inevitable backlash of the media saturation of all things Curry. It’s not just Cavs’ fans, either.
I would be really surprised if he is hated outside cleveland and oklahama. He has been credited for billion dollars rise of Under Armour. Aside from being a warriors fan, I saw him in every game he played and people who think of him as bad individual can’t be more wrong about his character, on and off court. You won’t become unanimous MVP if you are hated by any section of people.
He’s a great player. Just a lousy teammate and lousy leader and cocky as all get out.
wrong in many levels.
Cols is to be taken with a large grain of salt…
Not many superstars are as entertaining to watch as Curry. Likability wise, he’s every bit as much hated as he’s adored. He’s as cocky as they come, of course there is going to backlash.
Curry is probably the most unlikeable superstar in the NBA today. Throwing his mouthguard?! All the shimmying and trash talking and showing up other players?
No wonder other NBA stars besides Klay can’t stand the guy. The contempt is real.
Not true. Lebron and Kyrie don’t hate Curry. Lebron had nothing but compliments for Draymond too. Believe what you want, but players respect each other(unless they sleep with one’s wives) when they are not going against each other. They are all Team USA teammates. It is fans that make up this silly hatred.
Kyrie praised both Steph and Klay in post game interviews, in fact he went out of his way praising them, saying something like what great players they are. Don’t remember exact quotes. These stars, they don’t become winners without respecting opponents.
The Curry backlash is coming. Once the culture Warriors (no pun intended) find out his dirty secrets, they’re gonna turn on him.
Some of the hate Curry’s getting was more like from his wife lol. I mean that really is unsportsmanlike haha. Aside from throwing his mouth guard I think he’s fine, but the hate will surely come. I know many are just waiting for the right time to throw their stones as soon as he’s down, unfair world isn’t it.. As they say, it’s easier to target someone big, something like that. Ask Lebron. But he’ll be fine I guess. Klay on the other hand I think showed me more negatives in this series than his entire career. Not shaking hands… Read more »