Recap: Pelicans 124, Cavs 122 (Or, the good times got rolled)
2017-01-24Using another team’s rebuilding blueprint in the NBA is like trying to make a roux for the first time with directions out of an old Betty Crocker book. Words can’t really describe the proper color you are aiming for. If it gives off a buttery popcorn or cocoa aroma you’re fine. If the roux starts to smell like coffee or burnt popcorn, it’s too late. A roux is composed of two ingredients (fat, flour), and three variables (heat, time, effort), and if any of them aren’t right, it’s time to throw it away, and start over.
The majority of us have been witnesses to a few reboots of the Cavaliers, and we’ll see another one again in five years or so. In a way, the Pelicans rebuilding process around Anthony Davis reminds me a lot of the Cavaliers initial attempt at constructing a roster around a teenage LeBron James.
Both teams hit the absolute jackpot landing a generational talent through lottery luck with the first pick of the draft. Both teams had an innate longterm fear that they had to expedite the franchise progression process by trading away draft picks to acquire veteran players. The fear wasn’t convincing their phenom to re-sign after his rookie deal was up, but making the franchise the place the he would want to be after his first opt out clause in his second contract, when he could be fully wooed by a better situation in a more cosmopolitan city.
The Pelicans traded away the draft rights to Nerlens Noel and a another first round draft pick that could have become Elfrid Payton, Zach Lavine, or T.J. Warren for the now injury riddled Jrue Holiday. As questionable as that deal looks in retrospect, at least they didnt burn a first rounder on Jeri fricking Welsch. As much as the Pelicans are struggling this season in the standings (17-27 entering last nights game), they should be commended for their bargain bin free agency acquisitions of Terrence Jones, Donatas Motiejunas, and Dante Cunningham. All three have drastically below market contracts, and could be rotation players on a playoff team.
In a strange way, I want the Pelicans to be succeed if for no other reason than I like the idea of New Orleans. I love their ridiculous minor league baseball nickname. It’s sounds silly initially, but after a few YouTube videos of pelicans attacking, you realize that the pelican truly is the most awkward and ballsy bird of prey. I want to go there so badly for creole cuisine. It’s Americas first true fusion food, blending French, Native American and African cooking styles all into one symphony of savory. Mostly though, I want to go there because I stereotype everyone there talking like Foghorn Leghorn, and telling me fables to beware about Rougarous living in the bog.
First Quarter
With Pelicans star Anthony Davis being a pregame scratch, you’d assume the Cavaliers would have been able to wrap this one up early and rest the starters for the fourth quarter after playing bully ball for three quarters. From the opening tip, we knew that wasn’t going to be the case. Former Rocket Terrence Jones is averaging 18 per game while starting this season, and he got off to a fast start on the first score of the game with a left handed push shot off the backboard from a Jrue Holiday dime.
Just over 4 minutes in, the Cavs are down 16-7. Oh, and Anthony Davis isn't playing.
— Cavs:TheBlog (@CavsTheTweets) January 24, 2017
On the other end of the floor Kevin Love cleaned up an Iman Shumpert misfire to score the Cavs’ first pair. The Cavs early lethargy on defense made me assume that they enjoyed too many beignets at breakfast. Multiple times in the early going they failed to close out on shooters, and quickly found themselves down 16-7 four minutes into the game.
The Cavs mounted mid-quarter a rally and made it a one possession game behind deep balls by Shumpert and Irving, followed by a pair of free throws by Love. Irving then promptly got stuck on a lower box cross screen and E’Twaun Moore delivered an uncontested reverse layup. The Pelicans rebuilt the levy of their lead by Jones scoring on back-to-back possessions with LeBron on him. That lapse in Cavs defense was followed by a Holiday triple over a complacent Irving, which forced a Ty Lue timeout.
Jones had a career quarter in the opening stanza of 17 points and four boards. The Cavs caught a break at in the waning seconds of the quarter as Kevin Love drew a foul on a put back attempt with time expiring to cut the deficit to 35-26.
Second Quarter
The second quarter was a continuation of the first as a former Rocket torched the Cavs from downtown, this time with a triple from recent scratch and dent addition Dontas Motiejunas. There are schedule losses in the NBA, and this wasn’t one of them.
Midway through the quarter the Pelicans’ lead swelled to 17. In retrospect, the possession that woke LeBron out of his chill mode was being hip checked by Motiejunas. LeBron then emphatically gathered a Love misfire from the corner and cut the deficit to 15 with a two-handed jam. On the following Cavs possession, Kyrie drilled a three from the corner. On the opposite end of the court, an engaged James physically defended Motiejunas in the paint and altered the Lithuanian’s shot to the point it barely grazed the rim, and bobbled out of bounds.
The Pelicans retorted back with a pair of threes from Jones and Holiday. Even on the Pelicans’ misfires, the Cavs failed to box out and the Pelicans lead engorged to 22 points. The Cavs just couldn’t string together solid possessions. After a should have been momentum shifting drive and dunk by LeBron, they failed to box out on the other end of the court and gave up a bunny putback to Jared Cunningham.
After a late Langston Galloway foul with just 1.3 seconds remaining, the Cavs did execute a stellar inbounds play, as LeBron threw a crosscourt pass to Love underneath the hoop for a reverse layup. Overall, though, it was a pathetic effort by the Cavs as they trailed the Pelicans 70-50 at halftime.
Third Quarter
I’d like to think that assistant coach Phil Handy gave the team a lesson through profanity at halftime about their effort during the first half. I dig that this lull in the season might finally be the championship hangover kicking in months after we anticipated. There’s no excuse to give up 70 to a Pelicans team without Davis. Whatever transpired at halftime, it worked. The team played with purpose for the first time in 24 minutes, and it quickly showed on the scoreboard.
Through the Cavs’ comeback, Jones continued to produce for New Orleans. He established a season-high of 27 with eight minutes remaining in the third. He’s always been a talented player, but LeBron’s and Tristian’s apathy on the defensive end tonight really helped him shine.
Kyrie got some pop (soda to anyone who isn’t from the Rust Belt), on his shoes along the sideline, and swapped his kicks out for a retina burning pure white pair a moment later. He went on to score 16 points in the remaining five minutes of the quarter. Maybe we should pack those kicks away for June.
Love then connected with LeBron on a touchdown pass that LBJ converted by contorting his body midair to avoid his defender, and went up and the under for the layup cutting the deficit to 13. A moment later, Kyrie sized up Holiday on the wing, and beat him off the dribble and was hammered by Soloman Hill, and still converted the the shot and the freebie. On the next Cavs possession Kyrie stepped into a three from the top of the key before the defense could close to cut the DIF to just nine.
A minute later, Love passed up an open three at the top of the corner, perhaps in acceptance that his shot just isn’t there, and performed a dribble hand off to Shump, and sealed E’Twaun Moore through the process allowing Shump to bury the uncontested 25-foot triple. One of the things I really appreciate about Love is his headiness and acceptance for when it’s there and when it’s not. He struggled from downtown tonight, but still manufactured offense for himself through drawing fouls and hitting seven of his eight trips to the line.
On a broken play Kyrie scrambled for the ball and drew a foul by Tyreke Evans. With the Pelicans in the penalty he earned a trip to the line and coverted on one of them. Off of an Evans misfire, Deandre Liggins snared the board and Kyrie broke down the Pelicans defense for an up and under to cut the Cavs deficit to eight.
Fourth Quarter
The Pelicans struck back scoring nine unanswered points within the first two minutes of the fourth, stretching the lead back to 17, and prompting Lue to call a time out to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
RJ throwing it down on @FOXSportsOH.#CavsPelicans https://t.co/9DS97u6REq
— Cleveland Cavaliers (@cavs) January 24, 2017
After regrouping, Richard Jefferson answered with a three from the corner. On the following Cavs possession, LeBron led the break and hit Jefferson with a bounce pass for a transition jam. While Jefferson is best served as a ten minute player off the bench at this point in his career, his sporadic athleticism for guy a few months away from turning 37 is bananas.
Bron once again drew Montiejunas off of a switch, and sized him up at the top of the key. With his defender playing the drive LeBron converted from downtown. A moment later, Kyrie stole the ball from Holiday and then converted through uncalled contact for a pair. A beautiful touch pass from Love to Korver in the corner made it an eight point game. Irving dropped a pair of threes to cut the game to six with just four minutes left.
Play of the Night: @TerrenceJones1's block on LeBron! #Pelicans https://t.co/rfjYBqZumY
— New Orleans Pelicans (@PelicansNBA) January 24, 2017
Terrence Jones was a menace on the defensive end of the floor as didn’t fall for Kyrie’s Houdini act on a drive, swatting the ball out of bounds. On the following Cavs possession, Jones ascended on a LeBron on a dunk attempt and rejected him at the rim. Note to myself, and anyone else who plays Daily Fantasy, if Anthony Davis sits a game out, Terrence Jones is an absolute must play.
The Pelicans’ defense lost LeBron on the inbounds and he was uncontested on a layup. On the following Cavs possession, Irving drew a foul on Holiday from downtown, and converted on all three freebies making it a one possession game with under two minutes remaining. For as depressing as watching most of this game was, they really did fight back and make it a compelling finish.
A loose ball double foul by Jefferson and Langston Galloway led to a jump ball between LeBron and Jones. The tip initially went to Korver, but he couldn’t control it. Love then pulled down a one-handed rebound off of a Holiday misfire. On the opposite end of the court, LeBron lost control of the ball on a high dribble drive. Kevin Love finally found his deep ball on the Cavs last possession of the game as he drilled a corner three with two seconds remaining, but it was too little, too late as the Cavs fell to the Davis-less Pelicans 124-122.
BOO
I counted at least four times that LeBron simply decided not to play defense for a whole possession. He can't call out anyone.
— HoopsDogg (@oldseaminer) January 24, 2017
The team responds to LeBron’s energy. That’s the burden of being the leader. While a casual glance at the USA Today box score will make you think he gave it everything he had with his triple-double, he had a game high six turnovers, and this was legitimately one of his worst defensive performances I can recall from him. For the greater majority of the night, he wasn’t engaged on the effort end of the court. Terrence Jones is a moderately skilled player, but he doesn’t have a career night without LeBron letting him. After the game James spewed alternative facts as to why the Cavs didn’t win, basically calling out the performance of the bench and his own minute total. Both of which hold a level of validity because James posted a minus 11 plus/minus in 44 minutes of action. They were better with him off of the court.
Kevin Love’s back has to still be bothering him. After returning from his sabbatical, he’s shot 4-16 from downtown. He was more effective last night than he was against the Spurs, and manufactured trips to the free throw line to produce offense.
The rotations are an absolute mess and the bench combinations gave them nothing.
YAY
Kyrie had one of the best offensive games of his career. He put up 49 on 28 shots to go with four dimes and no turnovers. If he doesn’t go bananas, this is a 20 point blow out on the road to a team 10 games under .500.
https://twitter.com/OnlyTheNBA/status/823754484451016704
Tonight was a great night for former Cav Dion Waiters aka Saint Weirdo as he lit up the Warriors for 33-5-4, including the game clinching three from the top of the key over Klay Thompson. Depending on Miami’s tanking objectives, I’d be very receptive to them gift wrapping him back to the Cavs. We’ve kicked around possible additions as another reserve playmaker, and Waiters would be better than anything off of the scrap heap. Not that the Cavs really have anything to offer for him.
Not that I’m celebrating this loss, but perhaps it’s just following their script of the past two seasons. Maybe they are just following their own cycle, and they need to a sense of hostility to rebel against. Either way, I’m not taking too much from it. If they would have decided to bring it for three quarters it would have been a win. They didn’t.
God, Jalen and company having a field day with the Carmelo for Love talk. That show blows.
One scrub playmaker will not make a difference on the defensive end. This team also has enough talent on the offensive side with the right offensive schemes. Spread pick and roll or iso plays don’t work for role players. They need to have actual plays! Simple. Does that work with Lebron, sure. However, many teams have bench units that succeed without relying on iso or spread pick and role. For the bench, institute an offense that does not revolve around LBJ or another ball dominant player creating shots while guys stand around. There are such offenses out there, many in… Read more »
Not many teams have won the title.
Many recent contending teams have had self sustaining bench units that have been title contenders without relying on stars to carry their benches.
And not won. Because in the playoffs only top 7-8 players play. Stars matter only.
This comment board desperately needs a win.
This could just be Lebron’s passive aggressive way of lighting a fire under the role players rear
Cavs bench rankings:
PPG: 28th
RPG: 29th
APG: 28th
FG%: 27th
EFF: 28th
Defensive EFF: 28th
But sure lets bash LeBron for wanting a backup PG.
Nobody is bashing LBJ for wanting a backup PG. In fact, nearly every person on this blog has believed we needed a backup PG since before the season.
We’re bashing him for being a dick about it.
There’s absolutely zero evidence that anyone in the organization thinks he’s being a dick about it. That’s, like, just your opinion man.
Griffin had a one on one with him today, and Lue addressed it in front of the team. And I was referring to us, not the team. But in both cases, you’re wrong again.
They didn’t give up 70 in a half to a Davisless Pels because they lack a backup PG…
Hehe this was a copy/paste mistake I just wanted to post the stats not the comment at the bottom lol. My bad.
I just wanted to point out how bad the Cavs bench is.
Supposedly Cavs turned down Melo for Love overtures….thank god. Maybe Griffin can offer Fanta and a 2nd….
Haha.
I can’t believe this was even a thing. Is Phil Jackson so clueless as to think Melo for Love would be a swap anyone would be interested in?
I think he is so clueless…I suppose it’s worth floating it in case Bron wants it to happen for some reason…
NEED TO GET BACK THAT ” CLEVELAND BLUE COLLAR —DEFEND THE LAND –ALL FOR ONE –ONE FOR ALL ATTITUDE ” THIS HAS BEEN LACKING RECENTLY——REALIZE IT IS DIFFICULT TO HAVE / BRING EVERY GAME BUT WE NEED TO SEE IT ON OCASSION TO GIVE US HOPE AND TO HELP GET THAT ATTITUDE READY WHEN WE NEED IT –COME PLAYOFF TIME
Bowling time
Wrong regime. Remember, that didn’t work.
EXCELLENT NATE —JOB WELL DONE –EXCITED TO GET / WEAR —-MAYBE THIS WILL HELP THE CAVS PLAY BETTER ALSO / CAN ONLY HOPE !!
https://twitter.com/TreeCityWes/status/824033491478347778 CtB T shirts should be wending their way to the recipients.
This sure feels a lot like 2015. LBJ needs to do some man in the mirror. He was, allegedly, just fine with Delly leaving. No one seriously doubts that if he demanded the Cavs match that they wouldn’t have matched. Counting on Mo Williams, who played all year injured, was dumb. The real problem is not a back up PG anyway: Its atrocious defense. They’re giving up 110 a night in January. They gave up 124 to an Anthony Davis-less team. They don’t need a playmaker, they need defense. Its been said over and over, but LBJ playing half ass… Read more »
Hear, hear.
We make fun of the Warriors because they are frauds. I’d much rather root for the mentally tough NBA champion Cleveland Cavs than that frontrunning team.
If they are frauds, the Cavs ‘achievement’ was truly underwhelming. Too bad they couldn’t have won a meaningful championship.
What warriors fans really hoping are Lebron make the gigantic mistake of trading Love for Melo :-) Seriously, the reports are that Melo doesn’t want to be traded in season so Cavs fans have one less thing to worry about. If Lebron stays patient, there will be some players who will be bought out and look to play for contending teams. What Cavs are finding out is what dubs found out last year, is how difficult to repeat. The legendary Spurs team lead by 4 HOFers and best coach never were able to repeat. There is assortment of reasons why… Read more »
We don’t care.
I don’t care that you don’t care either, lol.
You are not a Cavs fan. This is not a warriors blog. We do not care about the fraudulent ones.
cared enough to respond to me, all the time. if warriors are ‘frauds’, cavs are not even champs. lol.
Go listen to the Moana soundtrack again, Cols. Can’t you let someone like Warriors Fan post his opinion without your same response all the time? As EG said yesterday, you are being more than boring with your commentary. Moana’s big title track, “How Far I’ll Go” also describes the depths of your redundancy. How many times do you plan to call the Warriors frauds? It’s probably approaching 100. This alone disqualifies you as a serious commentator.
Holy Crap. Mike Pod with the Moana smack. Shit just got real.
The only thing is, LeBron knows JUST how difficult it is to repeat and he is one of the prime culprits of the less than stellar attitude during this first stint of 2017. He has already crossed that bridge. That’s what makes it harder for us to watch.
Even Lebron isn’t arrogant enough to think Melo for Love is a good deal.
UGH. Agreed that the issue is defense. And it was very clear last year that Kyrie and LeBron don’t really play good defense until we get to the post season. Missing JR Smith hurts. And Delly and Mozgov gave use really nice defensive versatility. Plus, Delly could come in off the bench and facilitate – which Kyrie has never been great at. LeBron has too many turnovers to be a full time point guard. We need a facilitating, defensive point guard… we need Delly. Oops. I think I said we would regret this when we let him go.
My thoughts exactly…well said!
Agree on partially on defense and entirely on minutes and rotations. This team has been coddled into thinking LBJ is a safety valve, as every other Heat and Cavs team has done. He has never had a good bench on any of his teams, production wise. The talent, especially on this team is there though. Need another playmaker? Try staggering Ky and LBJ minutes more. Since all of his teams’ personnel (lots of one dimensional role players and cheap veterans plus a few stars) and entire offense has been constructed and revolves around him, there has never been a really… Read more »
The Moana soundtrack has burrowed itself deep inside my earholes. It’s driving me nuts. It’s not even bad music, but it’s been on repeat for like 3 weeks now.
We have the same children. I just got Let It Go out of my head and its No One Knows How Deep It Goes every second.
LOL
Is there any way to trade for Ricky Rubio without getting rid of Shump? I don’t think our salary situation allows for it. Rubio is mentioned in this article: http://amicohoops.net/rumor-roundup-nelson-cavs-knicks/ At this point, I don’t care one bit about Rubio’s shooting.. I would take him in a heartbeat for the defense and play making.
Yeah, but not at the expense of Shump.
I agree. That’s why I prefaced my question as to any way we could do it WITHOUT trading Shump. I didn’t know Rubio’s contract was for 13 mil… seems like a lot for him. We don’t have a TE anywhere near big enough and after Shump, the contracts get mighty small and wouldn’t really be able to add up to 13 mil. I’m not all that good with the minute details of deals like this though. I know there are people here that would certainly be better with that, though.
Yeah, I agree about not trading Shump though. He gives us perimeter defense and can shoot the three.
Pretty sure there is no way. In fact, I think I asked this earlier in the season and got the same response.
No. No way.
Theoretically you could do it with Frye. But it would gut a third of the roster.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hb7zp9x
Hopefully LeBron will realize he was using “alternate facts” yesterday. I am a bit worried that Lue is not able to call the shots anymore. He needs to tell LBJ to shut up. (Kind of like LeBron when he told his mother to shut up after she tried to punch Paul Pierce). LeBron is a pretty smart guy and I think he will realize he is making things worse. We will see. The current Cavs rotation needs about 10 minutes less total for LeBron and Kyrie. Unless additional players are added, the only reasonable place to find those 10 minutes… Read more »
Colin Cowherd was on the money here criticising Lebron on his comments. Take a pay cut get a bench is the gist. He has so many other income streams. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXm1yDXXqWg
Honestly have no idea what they are doing up there in CLE… None if it makes any sense to me… here’s to hoping they know more than I do ;) Agree about Felder. Seems like utter wastefulness giving him DNP-CD’s when he could be down tearing up the D-League.
Don’t you think Griffin and LeBron deserve the benefit of the doubt considering the recent past?
I was mostly being sarcastic. Of course I am assuming they know better than I do. What I am also saying is that my clearly inferior mind cannot make sense of it…
It’s starting to get annoying though listening to Lebron game after game when his defense and careless passes are getting increasingly worse. If he played D for 25-30 mins a game, boxed out and rebounded and took care of the basketball, he would only have to play 30 minutes a night.
Dude had a triple double.
You’re right Cols… who cares that despite his triple double, there was no defense played and a scrub scored 30 points mostly on him…
pretty soon he will get a quadruple double with all of his turnovers….. /s
In all seriousness though, it might just be time for him to take 2 weeks off in Miami again. Maybe this time he can post some pics on insta with Melo working out.
Yeah, because players working out with their friends is scandalous!
Again, agree with you, too Josh…. Sure does seem like a lot of our troubles would disappear if there was a concerted defensive effort for 3 quarters…
Yes, I believe Lebron is top 3 all time. However, I think that Griffin has more than earned his paycheck and I think throwing every Cav except Kyrie and Love was a bush league move.
ego trumps intelligence every time.
The Cavs are going to win the championship this year and it’s not even up for debate.
This comment thread is going to look silly when they get back to the Finals.
I believe it would be nice if the Cavs could find a player similar to TT or more so a good shot blocker to come of the bench for TT. The second unit the Cavs had been using the last few games of LeBron, Frye, Korver, RJ and Liggins can’t defend at all except for Liggins or LeBron when he intends to. The Cavs need a few player that are willing to do the dirty work, play hard defense and rebound the ball. The Cavs have many scorers and shooters already. I would trade Frye for a good shot blocker.
It’s easy to hide one guy on defense. It’s hard to hide two, and three is impossible. Liggins is a plus defender, RJ is adequate, and a decent system guy, but Korver, Frye, and LeBron (until the final two minutes) are all minus defenders. You can’t run a lineup with three minus defenders unless they’re incredible scorers. But they’re too inconsistent to be so.
There’s a fine line between voicing your opinion and plainly disrespecting your teammates. Last night, LBJ definitely crossed it.
I understand his wanting a solid backup PG but to pretty much throw everyone under the bus besides himself, Ky and Love is bullshit!t.
After how much you said TT was important. After the praise you gave to Korver. After talking so highly of RJ, now you go and pretty much say they are useless. WTF??? Keep your mouth shut and have a face to face with Griff and Uncle Dan.
Stupid way of going about it…
You know that every one James has ever played with has loved him. He does this every year. It’s not a deal at all
TT deserves so much respect, he’s not just a throw in player, he’s a hustle monster and anchors the defense. Lebron was out of line to basically throw him under the bus, this isn’t the way to build camaraderie and team spirit, Shump is a champion as well, this is really disappointing and seriously selfish and small minded of Lebron.
Loved the Dion section of the recap, “St. Weirdo” indeed
Also, this new version of players brought about by the media’s obsession with winning titles, who basically demand the All Star team in order to roll over the competition is absurd. STFU and play ball, that’s what champions do titles will come.
Every team that wins the title is an all-star team. Cavs 2016, Frauds, 2015, Spurs (4 HOFs!!), Heat, etc.
I agree with Cols, if you check the rosters of the past 5 NBA teams that had won it all they are all stacked.
Disappointed in Lebron, that’s not the right way to conduct business. Trust is a two way street. Him going to the media implies the front office is cheap and satisfied with one title, when in fact they’ve well blown their budget. Unfortunately for Lebron leading by example with integrity on defense and perhaps giving more than just lip service to the Spurs way of conducting business would serve him better.
Who’da thought we would be waiting for JR to come back and save us?
Anyone hear anything about how he is coming along? We have no idea if he will be back at all. Hopefully he will be back soon.
Tom is “having a hard time getting too bent out of shape about the losses”.
It might be true that LeBron giving 100% is enough to reach the finals, but it is a LONG SHOT to win. They way they are playing now, they will have major trouble getting to the finals. Time and age seems to be catching up with Frey and Jefferson. Maybe Korver, but I think if people would try to find him, he will be a big plus.
The Cavs need two more decent players.
I think they need a solid backup PG and for everyone to stay healthy (and for JR to come back). Other than that it’s all execution.
Interesting in that we’re hoping for JR to return to fix our attitude and effort issues. I think in Seinfeld they would call it “Bizarro World”
In any case, this isn’t a fun regular season team and doesn’t ever seem like its going to be. Maybe best to not watch so much regular season
I have fun watching them. But then, I remember the years 2011-2014.
True point – relative to the amount of my life I wasted in 2011-2014, this is a major step up! I’m just grumpy about the NBA schedule encouraging quantity over quality.
Yes. We need to erase January!
Per CBS Sports report, Cavs interested in Jameer Nelson, Deron Williams, and Rondo. I’m okay with Nelson, but he is owed too much money, I’d take Williams, but if they take Rondo, it is all over. I repeat: It. Is. over. .
I agree, I do not want Rondo. But it isn’t over if we get him. Last year we had a backup PG that couldn’t get off the bench and still won it all.
That backup PG wasn’t the biggest douche in the league who actively sabatoged his recent team in playoff games, wore out his welcome with three teams who needed a point guard, and truly believed he should be a starter. Also, a possibly minor point, that ‘backup point guard’ is a better player than Rondo is right now.
Is he? Right now Delly lost his starting job to a 2nd rounder. I’d take Delly over Rondo, but he’s having a pretty miserable year in Milwaukee.
Actually, you’re wrong… he had lost his starting job after getting hurt, but has regained it the past two games where he’s averaging 33 mpg, 15.5 ppg and 7 apg. He has gone 10-14 from the field and 4-6 from three in those two starts, one of which was a win last night over the Rockets…
Aren’t you even slightly embarrassed by your constant mistakes?
Of those, Williams would be fantastic.
Williams sucks. Better with liggins.
Once again, props to whoever made that picture.
JR coming back would pretty solve everything. Too bad that’s not until March. Maybe it’s vacation time for Leb Leb.
The solution is play LeBron 35 effective minutes or less, stagger he and Kyrie, and live with it or play him 44 ineffective minutes. Playing LeBron in blowout wins and losses is part of the problem.
Its not like LeBron tries harder when he only plays 35 minutes unfortunately. He’s just in chill mode and we all get to live with shxtty basketball for a few months. The joy of the NBA schedule and the middle finger to the fans
Playing harder is not the issue. LeBron is actually a human being, and does not have ten times as much energy as everyone else. No one can play at their best when way overused, and they are much more injury prone.
Playing LeBron in blowouts either way is insane.
It would be nice if the Cavs ran more designed plays in the half court, especially since they aren’t getting any stops at the other end.
Also, LeBron’s defense and rebounding has been egregiously bad and when he’s on the court with 3 to 4 minus defenders he just has to be impactful for them to have any chance at getting stops.
Agreed. Or just play passible defense. He’s guarding no one on 5—6 plays a game.
I dunno – I’m having a hard time getting too bent out of shape about the losses. It’s a combination of laziness and going through a rough patch of the schedule but actually LeBron is correct the Cavs are a very top heavy team. They lost Delly and J.R. has hardly played. Maybe I am overcorrecting but I was so fraught with despair all last season because all the trends and stats and the blowout at the hands of the Warriors just made it impossible for me to believe the Cavs had any kind of chance in the Finals. And… Read more »
It’s almost that Bron forgets that they’ve basicallly lost three players for the year (with JR coming back)
Yep. Tom does not forget the lessons of last year.
COLS JUST TURNING INTO ” J.C.”
AGREED LEBRON SHOULD HAVE STOPPED AFTER INITIAL TWEET / WOULD HAVE COME ACROSS MORE POSITIVE—–WE SCORE 122 PTS— IS IT A PLAYMAKER THAT WE NEED OR JUST ANOTHER RELIABLE BENCH PLAYER THAT CAN GIVE SERVICIABLE MINUTES —-I THINK A BACK UP BIG IS A MORE IMPORTANT PRIORITY —LET HIM BACK UP T.T.–LET CHANNING GO BACK TO KEV’S BACK UP —PUNISHING MYSELF BY WATCHING RE-RUN OF LAST NIGHT’S GAME —IT DOESN’T GET ANY BETTER —A.C. CLEARLY ANNOYED BY THE LACK OF EFFORT AND CONSTANT WHINING TO OFFICIALS ( THIS HAS TO STOP )–JUST FRIGGIN PLAY THE GAME AND QUIT THE DAMN… Read more »
EG!!! Why do you forsake me?
Because you’re being even more stubborn and boring with your repetitive takes than usual today… Try to remind yourself of the difference between the macro view and the micro view of this team… If LeBron himself can be critical, then there’s no reason fans of the team cannot also be critical over the course of the season…
James is averaging 26, 8, 8 on 60% TS. FYI
And regularly letting guys hang 30+ performances on him…
I wonder if Delly would help this team at all. Nah.
Mr. 32%?
Cols he’s probably going to improve his shooting once he gets healthy. He shot over 40% from 3 the last two seasons and shot 37% in his rookie season.
I just don’t want you to have to change his name so many times
Haha.
Dion was always a better point guard than shooting guard. I’d love him as a back up PG. If his head has gotten small enough, that is.
He had to have been humbled about his free agency offers. For $3 million, he’s a value.
Lebron needs a two week vacation. He is visibly tired and, worse, visibly annoyed. Get your head right King. The rest of the team needs to learn to play without him anyway. I don’t care if we lose 10 straight. If that’s what they need to wake up, fine.
You don’t really want to lose 10 straight though.
I don’t want to, but if that’s what it takes. .. we’ll still be east champs.
LeBron knows that season without drama = soft team come playoff time. See also the frauds of the last two seasons.
He should have stopped with 1st tweet.
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/823966345888927745
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/823966515552731138
Whatever. You are not a fan of this team. We trust LeBron.
Do you realize those tweets are from Lebron and not me ? Lebron thinks team need to ‘improve’ through adding more players, dumping teammates as against your view of ‘everything is good’ with cavs. Lebron has different view than yours. Lebron doesn’t agree with you. I may not be Cavs fan but Lebron’s fan and rooting for Cavs to make finals. Fan of Lebron also doesn’t mean, I accept everything he does. I can talk a lot of about warriors team, both good and bad, but won’t do that on Cavs site. Respect the CtB authors and cavs fans here… Read more »
cavs are making the finals though. I’m sure you are so concerned.
I mean, I dig that he owns Klutch, but squeezing management for every last dime out of Gilbert on Tristan, and JR doesn’t help.
Nate, this isn’t some glorified AAU team or your local high school team. In the NBA great players get preferential treatment. Great players that have backed up everything they say by carrying team after team to the Finals get even more preferential treatment. And they should! They deserve it. So please stop with the whining about LeBron. Until he fails in his mission, then he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Haven’t been able to post much lately or watch much lately, but caught the second half of last night’s game and LeBron’s post game reaction… Cols, you are wrong. In fact, LeBron’s whining about his team and his front office gives everyone license to whine about him. Here are the facts from last night: 1) LeBron did not play well defensively. He was consistently either choosing not to defend at all, or when he did decide to, he wasn’t particularly good at it. Terence Jones was his man for much of the night and Terence Jones (who is not Anthony… Read more »
3) LBJ + four bench guys to start the second and fourth quarters has been patently awful recently (coinciding with both the Korver addition and the Shump move into the starting rotation). Maybe they need another playmaker, but maybe Ty Lue needs to adjust his rotational strategy. He seemed to just give up last night as he rode basically seven guys the entire game. That’s ridiculous against a sub 500 team missing their lone All Star. 4) David Griffin and Dan Gilbert’s money have pulled more rabbits out of hats than any other organization I can remember. Dunleavy and Birdman… Read more »
In conclusion, Cols… your incessant takes about LeBron doing no wrong are, to use vernacular that you will understand, boring…
Here’s a thought, if it bugs you so much that people want to gripe about obvious issues, including the fact that LeBron himself is griping in a misplaced way, maybe you should just take the rest of the regular season off and come back for the playoffs… you know, like LeBron’s defense…
Hot hot hot take!
+100. If there was a functionality on CtB to block Cols alternative facts universe, I would use it. If probably costs too much to implement a blocking feature like on Facebook, but I would donate $100 to the cause if it was feasible. Several people have asked about blocking Cols previously. Thanks CtB for a great site, and big kudos to a very informed commentariat also.
I don’t like to ban people. I’ll only ban for outright abuse or for becoming spam. I appreciate his contribution as long as he’s not abusive or overly repetitive.
Nate, I just meant for any one individual like me to able to block seeing his comments. Not an overall site ban. Usually I can just let ignorance slide, but he is just so annoying he affects the enjoyment of reading some threads.
Yeah. Don’t have that.
you have that option if you move to Disqus.
Hate disqus
Personally, I don’t care one way or the other. However, I will point out that if Cols is not considered “overly repetitive” than I have no idea what you feel constitutes overly repetitive haha. You must have a much higher threshold than I do for redundancy.
For as much as we disagree, he’s as big of a fan as we have, and I respect his readership (if not always his opinion). If he becomes obnoxious and I ask him to tone it down, he does. That’s all I can ask.
Scorching hot take!
If you don’t like what I think and say, then go. Don’t ask me to change my opinion to suit your desires. No one is holding a gun to your head to make you read this.
You just got served by EG, Holmes.
You just got served by EG, holmes!
http://www.djmeechie.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/you-got-served-film-still-650-430.jpg
Surprised at reading Lebron’s comments listing players from other teams and his choices.
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Meanwhile, James listed other free agents who could have been had — Raymond Felton, who signed with the Los Angeles Clippers, and Michael Beasley, who was traded to the Milwaukee Bucks — as players who could have helped the Cavs make it through the regular season.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18542324/lebron-james-sounds-cleveland-cavaliers-loss
Whatever
LeBron is behaving like a spoiled child. Most of this loss was on his defensive effort. The answer is to not play him so much, so he has more effort to give, but Lue seems averse to doing that. Bitching about the roster is low and insulting to his teammates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivWY9wn5ps
Nope. I trust the guy who has got his last 6!!!! teams to the Finals over the talking heads and bloggers who think he’s wrong.
Agree. As much as I love Lebron, he should let GM and coach do their jobs. I don’t like him for that. He has to set good example as a player and superstar. I don’t remember a star player coming out openly wanting other players which is openly admitting he doesn’t have confidence on his teammates. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Frye and Korver are struggling but they may win some games in playoffs with hot shooting or offense/defense substitutions(like Ray allen, Mike Miller, Derek Fisher who all won playoff games for the championship teams). They will be ready only… Read more »
Very poor look by LeBron with these comments. James always preaches the importance of team, but this was a very big diss to some of his teammates. You just don’t say this publicly. As Nate said, the overall defense including James’ woeful performance too often is more the problem than a playmaker. If there was a legal charge for coaching malfeasance, Lue should be hit with it for now allowing James to lead the NBA in minutes/game. James has been understandably gassed in games, hence getting blocked last night from someone who should never block him. David Griffin clearly deserves… Read more »
+1. Ironically, two names he brought up are offense only selfish players. Like you said, less he talks the better for his image as smart super star.
Beasley had substance abuse issues too
WENT TO BED AT HALF ( LIKE MANY PROBABLY DID ) BUT THOUGHT THAT KY WOULD SHOW UP IN THE 2ND HALF / WHICH HE DID —-JUST LISTENED TO BRAD D. ON ESPN HE MENTIONED ( I MENTIONED EARLIER ) THE IMPORTANCE OF J.R. AS A SHOOTER / BALLHANDLER / DEFENSE / ATTITUDE —–THINK THE CAVS WILL BE O.K. WHEN HE RETURNS ( I THINK WE NEED TO ADD A PLAYER OR 2 –NOT SURE HOW WE DO IT ) ALSO WHEN YOU ARE A JUMP SHOOTING TEAM WHICH WE ARE –WE BECOME VERY EASY TO DEFEND / NOT MAKING… Read more »
I didn’t get to watch the game, but from following the box score, it really did seem like we didn’t care on defense. And also that our bench has been dreadful for the past few weeks. They’ve been routinely getting killed and hemorrhaging leads or delaying comeback attempts.
Lebron called for more bodies. I don’t want to trade Cedi Osman but with our bench playing like this and Love’s back clearly still bothering him, Griffin might have no choice.
I hear Tyus Jones might be available from the Timberwolves. What would it cost to get him?
I don’t think they are going to trade for anyone. They really just need a scrap heap type of guy.
From the sounds of LeBron, he won’t be content with scrap heap…
Lebron is forcing GM to make mistakes.
Um, what?! They won it all and are the best team in the NBA. Give it a rest.
They won it all….last year. And they weren’t even the best team in the league last year, let along this year, which is apparently being discussed. Hold on to 2016, as long as you can, change is comin’ on real soon, make us women and men.
Did you just quote couger to us? They were by far the best team last year.
The thing about games like these is that it’s frustrating to lose to a sucky team. But it’s also completely meaningless when it comes to the rest of the season.
The picture at the top is fantastic! Also, it does seem like the title hangover came right after we wasted the Frauds on Christmas. Seems reasonable.
Um, Nate. When you have gotten your teams to 6 straight Finals and won 3 titles, you are completely allowed to call out your teammates whenever you want.
That’s fine, but you’ll be poisoning the well with your hypocrisy.