Recap: Kings 116, Cavs 112 (Or, Boogie Be Dancing)
2017-01-26Not only was LeBron without another “playmaker”, the Cavaliers were also without Richard Jefferson against Dave Joerger’s squad. LeBron did his best to make up for both as he calmly dropped 24, 13, and 11. Unfortunately for Cavs fans, that wasn’t enough to prevent DeMarcus Cousins and the Kings from leaving The Q with a victory. Let’s get to it.
With DeMarcus Cousins guarding Kevin Love, the Cavaliers ran Boogie through a gauntlet that featured two screens that merged seamlessly into a Kyrie Irving Pick and Pop. Kev was rewarded with a wide open left corner three which only found iron. Sadly that missed bucket was the best Cavalier action of the quarter. The Kings ran off-ball screens to free Boogie for drive and kick action and simple straight line drives. Iman Shumpert gifted an And-1 to Garrett Temple when the former simply rejected a screen to head directly to the cup. Tristan Thompson had trouble preventing Boogie from bully crossovers into the paint. On the other end, Cousins harassed Love into turnovers and bobbled possessions. Ty Lue called the first timeout of the contest after poor weakside communication netted the Kings a Darren Collison three and a 10-0 lead.
Out of the timeout, LeBron James had a pointblank post layup rattle out before the Kings’ sloppiness and Cavalier transition offense gave the Cleveland fans a reason to cheer. A 17-1 Cavaliers spurt put the Wine and Gold back in front. Shump’s three first quarter bombs helped mitigate some horrendous defensive mistakes. But in general, the Cavs’ first quarter scoring came in transition, off broken plays, or by Sacramento brain-laspe. There were few well run offensive sets that ended in a made bucket. Defensively, they did clamp down a bit in the middle of the quarter, but the individual defense was mostly inadequate. After one ugly quarter, Cavs up 26-22.
2nd Quarter:
The second period featured a lineup of Kay Felder, Kyle Korver, LeBron, James Jones, and Channing Frye. “Horns” moved into a beautiful Korver/Bron middle PnR with LeBron as the roller leading to an open left wing three for Frye. That kind of action is simply lovely to watch. When Kyle gets that dribble hand-off, the defense is forced to rush him in fear of his threeball. That allows LeBron frickin James to roll alone down the middle of the paint. Game over for any defense.
Still, the contrast in athleticism between the two squads was stark. With rookie Malachi Richardson, Willie Cauley-Stein, and even old man, Matt Barnes, the Kings moved too quickly for the Cavs geriatric squad. The Kings consistently attacked Felder on the offensive end. Ty Lawson must have enjoyed feeling like a big man for once. With LeBron in chill mode, the athleticism was the difference as the Kings got loose balls and easier drives to the paint. When Kyrie checked back in for Felder, his defense didn’t quite make it to the scorers table. Ky was a step slow defending the PnR and Cauley-Stein’s rolls to the rim continued to break down the Cavalier defense. Imam “shumped” anyone’s ability to get excited about him by getting absurdly lost on an Afflalo three. That possession might get the award for worst double team of the season.
On the bright side, Kyle Korver had his jumper set on automatic, running around screens and destroying nets. When the defense got too tight, he found Kyrie for an easy layup. That was about it for the bright side. Collison’s three before the half gave the Kings 31 second quarter points and a 53-47 advantage.
3rd Quarter:
After only taking four first half shots, it was clear that LeBron was ready to attack the rim. The King took it to the Kings with some Boris Diaw-esque slow-motion drives to the cup. Bron used good footwork and a better understanding of the “gather” dribble than I have to pivot his way(without traveling?) to 10 early quarter points. Kyrie also looked to attack the rack with more consistency. Before the first stoppage of play, Ky and Bron helped give the Cavs a 61-60 lead. Defensively, Cleveland continued to baffle defensive enthusiasts with incoherent rotations. They soft-trapped Arron Afflalo 30 feet from the rim for no apparent reason, crashed the roll man from every angle leaving the weakside wide open, and generally hung around looking introspective. Sacramento took advantage of the mindless play by hitting mid-range shots and bullying themselves to the rim. Darren Collison’s onslaught continued from both sides of the arc as the Cavs’ defense simply could not decide how they wished to defend the PnR on a play by play basis. Frye was too low “icing”, Tristan was too high on the show, Shumpert was hopping out of position nearly every possession, and the weakside wasn’t shading to protect passing angles. Not a great combo.
It was a good thing that Cleveland started raining jumpers from everywhere, or this one could have gotten ugly. Instead, Kevin, Shump and Channing locked in from distance to keep the Cavs ahead. TT did a good job of either finishing at the rim or kicking out for good ping pong passing on the perimeter. Sacramento clearly decided to let Shumpert shoot the rock and he made them pay by drilling two more jumpers in the third. With one to go, 82-79 Cavs.
4th Quarter:
The same unit that began the second period trotted out for the fourth. This time LeBron was completely engaged nullifying any athletic disadvantage. The Chosen one was all over the floor, dishing, rebounding and dunking his way to a triple double.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_auPqGCP5f8&t=3m25s
Shortly after, Kay Felder bobbled a ball out of bounce and James Jones missed an open three that could have made it an 11 point game. Instead of coasting to victory after the tidal force that was LeBron James, the Cavs stumbled and Afflalo hit his patented corner three. A likely 102-89 turned into a slim 97-94 lead causing Lue to burn a timeout.
Cousins did a solid Dirk impersonation drilling a fall away jumper to give the Kings the advantage. From there, the teams seesawed back and forth before Cousins shot up a wedgie three. The Cavs secured the subsequent jump ball and Bron hit a couple from the line to push the lead to three points. A somewhat controversial non-call on a LeBron gave the Kings a chance to cut into the lead. That chance was seemingly never ending. Between fouls and balls out of bounds, the Kings had about five attempts on possession. Cauley-Stein finally threw down a jam to make it 103-102 Cavs.
LeBron ran a PnR with Tristan that ultimately resulted in an open right corner three for Korver. His shot was long, but Kevin secured the rebound leading the Kings to foul with only 12.4 seconds left. Shockingly, Kyrie split the pair. Sacramento went to Boogie for the last shot. He calmly drove left all the way for the layup. The help defenders were understandably glued to three point shooter to avoid a loss, but it would have been nice see a little more resistance on a such a crucial play. The Cavs were left with 3.4 seconds in which to work, but Boogie flexed his defensive chops by knocking away the inbound pass. 104s heading to the extra frame.
Overtime:
Lue ran the starting lineup with Korver in place of Shumpert. He promptly missed a wide open left corner three. The Kings couldn’t convert either. Both teams scuffled about until Kyrie broke the seal on a lefty layup in the lane. Kevin Love’s left wing three followed a couple traded buckets to force a Kings timeout. 111-106.
Out of the timeout, Boogie’s relentless attack on the rim produced a layup, but also a sick block by Tristan. Boogie answered that with a block of his own and a sweet baseline spin move. Dude can play. The rest of the Kings finally decided to show up to the party with a steal off a LeBron backdown that resulted in a Collison transition layup. 112-111 Kings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoFn6OOmhV0
Cousins got whistled on an attempted steal giving Love a couple trips to the stripe. As was the theme of the night, he split the pair. Everyone in the building assumed Cousins would take the next shot, but instead he found an open Afflalo on the weakside right wing.
LeBron took his left wing special from deep to try to tie the game. He was a half step too deep. Though the Cavs got the offensive board, Korver fumbled away the rock. Ball game.
Thoughts:
Let’s get this out of the way first. The Cavs only hit 17-34 from the stripe. No, not from behind the arc. I’m talking from the free throw line. That it atrocious, and uncommon. Not a lot of high level analysis needs to be attempted there. James Jones went 2-5. Enough said.
Shumpert had a nice shooting night, but continues to play losing ball. His defensive “hop around like a crazy person” routine gives the illusion that he is giving good activity. His “shumps” are pretty awesome to watch. But he is out of position on nearly every possession. He plays awful angles, bites on the tiniest of fakes, and doesn’t seem to have an awareness of his defensive shading assignments. Korver did lose Barnes for a moment on the Afflalo three at the end, but there was no reason that Shump needed to come off his guy to softly pick up a non threatening player like Barnes as he comes up through the lane. Kyle should have been better attached to Barnes, but Shump has to understand what is the bigger risk. This is only one of maybe 10 examples you can give every night for Shump. It is infuriating. When his shot is falling, he can still give you a plus on an evening. But make no mistake, he did not have a good game.
Korver doesn’t quite know what his defensive responsibilities are yet. But can you really blame him? How is a guy supposed to come into a new situation and deliver on that end of the floor when his teammates are randomly floating around. He is not without blame, but he hasn’t been the disaster that people are claiming. He will be fine.
The Kings are so weird. They have a lot of talent and are likely better off with Gay out of the lineup. Putting Cousins at the four with Koufus in the middle isn’t always great, but they are certainly intimidating on the defensive end, even if not always effective. Malachi Richardson was so smooth. If they really have something with him, they have a chance to compete for a playoff shot. Cousins is that good.
The Kay Felder over DeAndre Liggins experiment was simply to give LeBron some more “play-making” on the floor. And not surprisingly, it didn’t go marvelously. Kay, no matter how much fun, is just too small. Unless LeBron is willing to completely hand him the reins to that second unit, there is no point of playing him. Until next time.
I’d take Larry Sanders and bring Andre Miller in. Professor Andre Miller is destined to return!
HELL WHY NOT GET SANDERS AND RONDO AND REALLY CREATE SOME DRAMA HERE ” IN THE LAND ” WE MAY NOT WIN BUT WE WOULD STILL BE THE MOST TALKED ABOUT TEAM IN THE NBA
RIGHT THERE WITH YOU MIKEO
Larry Sanders saying he’s ready to get back in the game. I’d take a flyer on him….no joke…
Headcase
Get him in and see what he can do. Nothing wrong with some tryouts.
No doubt about it, but I’d take a flyer and keep any expectations in the sub-basement…
Does Rondo in Cleveland make sense?
It does if you want to see the team utterly destroyed. The only teams Rondo makes sense for are on the Asian continent.
I think if properly lead he could be a great PG off the bench.
Not only is he a headache, he sucks.
Thomas, Wall, Love, George, Lowry, Walker and Millsap are East All-Stars.
Bah, I don’t think Millsap should have made it.
respectfully disagree. Millsap may be more deserving than Love this year. Atl 8 games over .500. Put Millsap in place of Love, Cavs will much more dangerous team. He brings lot of intangibles not shown in boxscore.
Nope
LOL… Milsap is pretty much inferior in every way to Love. Only thing Milsap brings is marginally better defense.
Disagree. Lot of ways to look at it, like how Millsap makes his teammates better, versatility, intangibles etc.. One easy way to see it, Millsap as best player, his team is a playoff team. Love as best player, never made playoffs.
well… given no tangible evidence exists of these “truths” hard to take them seriously. As for your “easy way to see it” I see it as having nothing to do with the individual player performance… those are team achievements you’re talking about. Too many variables such as teammates, coaches, injuries, front office for me to seriously consider that “easy” evidence. Milsap and Horford were owned by freaking TT in 2015…. that’s all I need to know about them. Love absolutely owned Milsap game 4 last year in the playoffs to clinch the series. This year, Love is superior to Milsap… Read more »
since you mentioned RPM, Millsap leads Love in RPM, DRPM and wins
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/6
Tom! Don’t ever take this site down! I spend way too much time on it, and honestly, it is definitely where I come when I need to escape. No one in my life cares about basketball. At least not to any appreciable amount. CtB is the only place I come where I can talk about the Cavs with people who are as passionate or more passionate than I am. Thanks!
Same here. Not many people down here in Mississippi are NBA fans and even fewer are cavs fans.
Likewise. I am in Athens, so there are plenty of Cavs fans. But my girlfriend was only interested when Andy was on the floor.
At times like these we should go back and listen to the podcast that came out in late July or August when you guys discussed how awesome it was the Cavs won the Finals.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18558053/jeopardy-champion-pokes-fun-warriors-blown-3-1-finals-lead-final-wagers
Things I wished we talked more about:
Basketball plays, Basketball Strategy
Things I wished we talked less about:
Minutes, Tweets, Salary, Rumors
And, BTW, I love the recaps. I don’t agree with them all the time, but I think they are well written and imagineative. I do not know how to spell that word. I suck.
Check out this thing called The Internet. It can help you spell.
Good advice. I use it a dozen times a day. When you type a word you are not sure of,
1. copy and paste it into Google,
2. Click on the “Showing results for” box.
3. Copy the word that now is in the search box.
4. Paste it into the doc you are working on.
Total time? 10 — 30 seconds.
If you are writing anything controversial, misspelled words will make everyone who disagrees laugh and say “what an idiot”. Of course, a lot of times they say that about me anyway!
Raoul, that is taking sarcasm next level, my friend. I applaud you.
Great recap, Ben. What was crazy about the first 2 weeks of January is the Cavs couldn’t crack 100 points but their defense actually kept them in some games. Now some of the offense starts picking up again and the defense is just awful. They’ve got a lot of issues and I understand LeBron’s frustration – if he isn’t impactful and disruptive at the defensive end they really get eviscerated in the half court. I can wear my Cols hat too and just say: My Lord, if Korver or Love could make a freaking left corner 3 in the 4th… Read more »
KLove – the anti-clutch.
Tom and Nate. I’ll tone it down a bit. I just hate that we’ve been through this before (last January, the panic! was strong) and we’ve seen the outcome the last two years.
It doesn’t mean I think the Cavs are perfect or it’s been tons of fun losing to bad teams, it’s just that I think, CORRECTLY!, that how this team plays in January has zero to do with how they will play in May.
Well you have last year to back you up. But I’m not sure the majority of people go into every situation thinking, this happened once this way, therefore it holds that it WILL happen again this way. Certainly, the Cavs proved that it is possible to look utterly broken at the hands of the Warriors, losing 7 straight games before winning 4 of 5 and doing something no other team in NBA history has done. I agree with you that it’s not useful to make predictions about how June will work out based on a January slump, certainly these iteration… Read more »
@cols714 You should really give it a rest. You are the “cancer” on this blog, not warriors fan. I may not agree with him on some points, but it at least turns into a conversation. If I could vote someone off the island, and we should…it would be you and your comments that don’t add anything to the discussion. How you act on here is a microcosm for why there is so much divide in this country, because its just name calling while blocking any form of discourse. Its not even a heated argument its just pushing people with other… Read more »
The country is not divided because of me. The country is divided because Republicans ran us into the ground and obstructed every move by Obama to revive it. Despite this, he managed to hand the country off in much better shape to Trump who is trying to undo everything Obama did.
Obviously the country is not divided because of you individually, but the way you act, is the way many people on both sides act left and right. But this is not the right forum for this argument, just want you to chill out.
Trust me, the left and the right are not equally wrong.
Pretty much agree. The dingbat end of the left is wacky, not evil like the whitepower end of the right.
Killing cops isn’t evil?
Killing people is, cop or not.
I think you missed the sarcasm of my statement.
Thanks for noticing this isn’t the right forum for that. We’ve allowed some glancing blows of politics even though it’s definitely not under the auspices of the NBA but everyone seems to know not to take it too far here.
This has been brought up a few times by some different commenters so I’ll try to shed a little light on CtB comment section rules/policing. 1.) Very few comments have been censored here (once we fixed the comment monster’s filter, that is) 2.) We don’t need to police it because the tone has been set here for years and because we attract an audience that is pretty civil. There was someone last year that crossed the line from criticism to abuse, replete with unacceptable language. He was warned, did not comply, and we banned him. 3.) Cols is a unique… Read more »
5.) But, for now, we’ve settled on the idea that Cols is Cols, and everyone certainly has a right to their sports opinions. 6.) Cols also enhances the experience for some people and, frankly, he’s obviously a big fan of the blog and we appreciate his enthusiasm even though we are on the receiving end of it from time to time. 7.) We’ve told Cols to make sure the Cold War with warriorsfan doesn’t go hot. We told him publically and privately we welcome warriorsfan’s presence here. 8.) In short, warriorsfan might wish we’d mute Cols, as you do, and… Read more »
10.) As a blog, once you start muting people for their opinions (however incorrect or overwrought they seem) you’re heading down a path that is not fun from a blog administrative perspective, and can create an “us vs them” mentality between your readership. Readers notice we let Cols be Cols, so no one should be afraid to come out of the woodwork and say “The Cavs should trade Kyrie Irving for Patrick Beverly!” I can tell you, you say that on some Cavs blogs (hell you advocate trading for Kyle Lowry or Chris Paul even), and you will be abused… Read more »
11.) Before I get off the soapbox, let me turn this take up to 11. Two things are happening right now in America that aren’t good. The first is that it’s becomming more and more acceptable to aire on the side of limiting freedom of speech for some seemingly noble cause. The second is that it’s become easier to self-segragate along partisan lines. This happens geographically but it’s most obvious in the way we consume social media. So we block and filter people on facebook or twitter that don’t agree with our political sensibilities, and we create a self-reinforcing bubble… Read more »
Cool story and Ima let you finish – but warriorsfan likes Donkey??
LOL. I think Donkey’s popularity with Warrior’s fans has something to do with the Electoral College. No way he won the popular vote.
Draymond’s popularity has something to do with him being 2nd in DPOY last two years and most versatile defender in the league.
One, we were being sarcastic. He is like Delly. Hated by everyone except fans of his team. And, in case you didn’t know, everyone thinks he’s dirty because, well, he is. Two, I respectfully disagree that he is the most versatile defender in the league. He is a very good defender. Very good. But there are a few guys that are more versatile, including Kawhi and LBJ. Now, LBJ doesn’t often defend much at all since chill mode is activated, but when he puts full effort, he can defend 1 though 5 and is a sick defender. Three, Donkey is… Read more »
I truly find no other athlete as reprehensible as I do Draymond Green. The tipping point was his low-brow comments during their championship parade. It has only gotten worse. If the Cavs were offered a trade of Jordan McRae for Draymond Green straight up, I would refuse it. That’s how much I detest him. However, feel free to like him Warriorsfan. Bah humbug to that turd.
Tom, and all blog staff, (and commenters, truthfully) – thanks for running this blog in the right way. Allowing people to be who they want to be excepting only when it crosses to abusive. Its one of the many reasons why this blog is such an exceptional piece of the net. It can never be said enough: Thank you for the work you do, the time you put in, and the thoughtful balance you keep. This much is indisputable: CtB = not frauds.
thank you JoeyB. (truthfully) this made my day. It’s nice to get noticed because it is a lot of work and comments like this are what I rely on when the doubts start to creep in about whether it’s worth the effort or not. At one time many of us had a little more free time (when I started I was a bachelor in Grad school – the pinnacle of free time). Many of us have become much busier and have had to cut many things out of our lives – but we’ve chosen to continue to invest in CtB.… Read more »
I’m glad you heard it because its true. I know how precious time is, especially once we start acting like grown-ups, and I don’t take it for granted that without the commitment of unpaid individuals like yourself, our little piece of fun would disappear. So thanks again.
Yeah this beach community is sweet. Please keep it up!
I agree on mute, thought about after I posted. Couldn’t delete.
Thanks Tom. I respect the site and authors of the site. Just for the record, I ignore cols714 but he keeps responding to me with insults. I can continue to ignore him or respond to his response, but just saying.
I agree on the mute feature. I actually really enjoy most of cols comments. His relentless enthusiasm and positivity is great, and provides a unique and often strange perspective compared to everyone else. I just hate when he bashes warriorsfan for his opinion. Everyone should be welcome and feel welcome. That’s my only issue. Ctb wouldn’t be same without him. Just wish he would chill with the bashing.
People play different roles in a good blog. Overall, CtB has a great mix, including: Warrior’s Fan is great, because he has a different viewpoint and is very knowledgeable — glad he or she is on board. Cols is a mixed bag. Occasionally he posts some really good stuff. He also goes on forever repeating himself with: 1. Wacky wrong ideas (e.g., Delly Sucks!), 2. Obvious stuff (e.g., LeBron is great), and 3. Long shot / wishful thinking (e.g., Cavs can’t lose because we have LeBron). Most of us are used to Cols’ rants. Occasionally someone debates him for a… Read more »
HEY NATE THE SHIRT HAS ARRIVED ( THANK YOU ) BEST THING RELATED TO ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CAVS IN THE LAST 3 WEEKS ———–THE RIFF WITH DAN/ LEBRON IS JUST LEBRON SETTING UP HIS ‘ GOOD BYE ” NEXT YEAR AND TAKING HIS TALENTS TO THE SPURS WHERE HE CAN PLAY FOR THE COACH HE HAS DREAMED PLAYING FOR “POP ” –SOME GOOD YOUNG TALENT / CAP SPACE TO ATTRACT ( AND THEY ALWAYS DO ) FREE AGENTS —–I KNOW THIS POST WILL PROBABLY UPSET ALOT OF YOU BUT THAT IS MY OPINION …..AND YES NATE THE WAY… Read more »
Oh man, I can’t wait to go check the mailbox when I get home!
I got the Blue and Orange one and it looks SICK
Yeah, I got my t-shirt recently, too. Looks great! Thanks Nate and CtB!
I want pictures, gentlemen.
The Cavs aren’t making the finals if they play like this in the playoffs. They probably won’t play like this in the playoffs, and the rest of the East stinks too. But honestly, the Wizards could get to a two seed the way the rest of the conference is playing, and the Wizards would beat Cleveland right now. Meanwhile, Windy stirs the pot.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18557434/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-owner-dan-gilbert-odds-payroll-spending
What in LBJ’s history suggests that his team will play like this in the playoffs? Tom, please give Nate a course in how to not forget recent history. He’s already forgotten everything he has learned the last two years.
Note my use of the word “if.” and stop repeating the same drivel over and over.
Everybody else is allowed to freak out over January basketball but I can’t tell the truth? Doesn’t everybody remember doing this last year?!!!
You’ve been saying the same stuff for two weeks now. At least your limericks were amusing and original.
Ok, sorry.
I missed the word if. I suck.
Oh Windy. I got to say this, though – it has been my opinion since the Varejao trade that, contrary to Gilbert and Griff’s words, that there was a spending cap. We all know now that its true. They won the title, so personally, I don’t care anymore, but they can’t pretend they don’t care about money, because they do. Examples: 1. Varejao was a salary dump that had nothing to do with Frye and cost us a 1st rounder. 2. Not matching Dellavedova was straight salary. Not even Cols can think that Delly wouldn’t be an improvement over an… Read more »
I do not and will not fault Gilbert, or anyone, spending their money how they want. But if Gilbert promised to LBJ that he would spend “unconditionally,” that wasn’t true. Maybe the frustrations boiling over have less to do with what actually is happening on the court and more to do with LBJ feeling like they are forgetting their promise, even if in the long run, it wouldn’t make much of a basketball difference.
Nobody has infinitely much money. Are you not happy that Gilbert is spending far more than anyone else in NBA history?
“They soft-trapped Arron Afflalo 30 feet from the rim for no apparent reason, crashed the roll man from every angle leaving the weakside wide open, and generally hung around looking introspective.” Best line of a fantastic recap.
MEANWHILE OVER IN EUROPE SOMEWHERE ….DAVID BLATT IS SITTING BACK… SIPPING ON SOME WINE …..AND SMILING !!
He’s actually enjoying basketball again. Good for him. Still feel like Blatt is a better coach. Alas, meaningless if the players don’t buy in.
He was not a good NBA coach. It’s telling that no one in the NBA was even willing to give him an assistant’s job.
No way to say that, since he never sought an assistant job. He got a head coaching offer in International ball, and he took it.
He had no offers. If someone wanted him they would’ve gave him an offer. He was extremely underwhelming.
….or he didn’t want to take an assistant job in the NBA at that point in his career….again, you have no idea.
Didn’t Blatt have an offer from Kerr to run the offense after the Cavs fired him? I know he had the offer before he became the Cavs head coach. Blatt should have been an assistant for a year or two before becoming a head coach in the NBA. His ego and style as almost a dictator wouldn’t ever work in the NBA but if he had a few years to figure it out, he could easily had a very successful NBA career.
You don’t even know if he didn’t have any offers… I wasn’t aware that you had a front row seat in each of the front offices around the league. Silly me.
Every team would have loved to him as assistant. Believe Kerr and Brad Stevens would have hired him assistant if Blatt willing. Blatt wanted to be head coach or go to overseas. He will return as head coach one day.
2 mil per year to be a Head Coach in Turkey. When in doubt, look at the money. David is no fool. He’s not going to leave about a million dollars on the table to be an assistant somewhere.
GM agrees with many here about Lebron’s comments. —- “While Cleveland GM David Griffin agreed with LeBron James that the Cavs need to have a greater sense of urgency, he said James’ recent comments weren’t “appropriate from a teammate perspective” “The comment about the organization being complacent I think is really misguided,” Griffin said Wednesday. “Organizationally, there is absolutely no lack of clarity on what our goal set is. We are here to win championships. … Anyone insinuating that this organization is about anything other than that would deeply upset me because ownership has invested in this at an absolutely… Read more »
Says someone who doesn’t root for the Cavs.
You should really give it a rest. You are the “cancer” on this blog, not warriors fan. I may not agree with him on some points, but it at least turns into a conversation. If I could vote someone off the island, and we should…it would be you and your comments that don’t add anything to the discussion. How you act on here is a microcosm for why there is so much divide in this country, because its just name calling while blocking any form of discourse. Its not even a heated argument its just pushing people with other opinions… Read more »
Thanks for the recap. Didn’t see or follow the game last night, so it was good to catch up.
Does the Cavs’ defensive coach deserve any flak? (You know, the guy whom Kaye talks down to.)
It’s an organizational failure from the head coach and team captains on down. They all look lost and uncaring.
Lue gets a lifetime pass from me for delivering Cleveland’s first title since 1948 and because the players love and respect him.
Very interesting analysis about Shump. I’m curious from the rest of the peanut gallery – do you all agree with Ben’s observations about Shumps defense in the 2nd paragraph of the “Thoughts” section? I don’t have a very good eye for basketball so I can’t really tell one way or the other. I tend to see the Shumps and high shooting percentage and think he’s a plus-player for the cavs. I don’t notice poor defensive positions because I don’t have the practical basketball understanding to do so.
He’s a good on ball defender who struggles sometimes on rotations. That’s why JR Smith is so valuable.
His on ball has been weaker this season. He got beat last night on a crossover that even I can manage to do.
That afflalo rejecting the screen one? It was awful.
I believe that’s the one. And yes, it was awful… I have definitely lightened my view on trading Shump. The problem is, I want a player that is a better version of Shump.
Ben said that when he shoots like tonight he can be a plus, but he is still lost half the time. I’d love to find a way to move him, but right now he’s shooting too well.
Isn’t now the time to move him – when he’s ‘hot’? At least if his defense is really as bad as is implied in the article. I will say it rarely seems the Cavs lock down like I see other teams do to us.
I would trade Shump for Delly straight up.
I’m pretty happy that LeBron has put the pressure on Griffin and Gilbert to deliver.
Cavs need to trade Iman shumpert for Norris Cole that opens up cap space rotations at the SG position DeAndre liggns can start for now until jr comeback and it gives kyrie a break with Norris coming off the bench and Kyle korver
And give McRae more min put him at the three and Richard at the four
I think we are through the looking glass…
Norris Cole isn’t even on a team to trade for him…
No way. You don’t trade Shumpert. He’s playing well and can defend 3 positions.
MikeO, do you really think it matters what happens in January? It hasn’t for the last two years.
Not really, but it sure seems LBJ does. Just listen to all his angst every January. I don’t think they are good enough to beat GS, doesn’t matter what they do or don’t do in January.
Eh. We will see. As long as they get to the Finals it’s a success. The Frauds are good.
Talk about recalibrating your expectations.
That’s always been my expectation. LeBron will get us to the Finals, after that it’s too hard to predict. For the last two years, that’s been my mantra.
Even Wade sounded rather cranky last night after the Bulls blew their lead and the game. I am really looking forward to Wade, Melo, Paul and Lebron all teaming up in 4-5 years. That team will be full of drama and subtweeting.
MAYBE ONCE IN AWHILE THEY NEED TO BE CALLED OUT / NOT SAYING ALL THE TIME –BUT A LITTLE PUBLIC ” KICK IN THE REAR ” IS GOOD ON OCCASION —-ALSO CAVS WERE 8-4 WHEN LIGGINS STARTED —-2-4 WHEN SHUMP HAS STARTED
Come on people. It’s frustrating and sucky but the pattern is clear
1. Cavs have a rough January
2. Fans freak out, OMG what does this all mean!!???
3. Playoffs come and Cavs romp
Do not forget the lessons of the last two years.
I remember the lesson of last year: Cavs down 3-1 to a better team…they are given a huge break when the biggest meathead in the league suspends himself in the most childish manner possible, otherwise they likely win 4-1. KI and LBJ use this gift to rip off 3 ridiculous games. This is very unlikely to be duplicated. Also, Warriors roster is just as good or better, and Cavs roster is worse. I know you think you see some magical ‘lesson’ from the last two years — the main ‘lesson’ in the Cavs favor is that they still are better… Read more »
The lesson is that this team will make the Finals. That’s all you can ask. After that, who knows? If Irving isn’t injured we have 2 in a row. This year the frauds went and got the even more fraudulent Durant. James owns him in his career. But they are still a good team.
Do you really expect Lue to call people out in his press conference? Saying I have to review the film is just his way of going about fixing things. I am glad our coach is professional and doesn’t call out guys in his post-game intereviews.
I expect him to own up to his own mistakes.
I’m sure he does. He just doesn’t tell you about them.
THANK YOU FOR THE LITTLE SUPPORT FOR KORVER ( NOT TO EXCUSE HIM ) BUT EVERYONE IS READY TO ” HEAP ” THIS WHOLE LOSING ON BECAUSE HE ARRIVED AND EVERYTHING HAS GONE ” SOUTH ” SINCE THEN.. B.S.—–YEAH AND I AM GETTING TIRED ( LIKE MOST OF US OUR ) OF TY’S IMITATAION OF “POTATOE HEAD ” —” WE HAVE TO REVIEW THE FILMS ” —NO TY YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT LUXURY DURING THE GAME / YOU MAKE THE DECISION NOW AND HOPEFULLY YOU ARE IN TUNE TO WHAT IS GOING ON / HAVE ENOUGH BASKETBALL SENSE /… Read more »
Korver and Frye are spot minute players and they will contribute in that important roll in playoffs. But if you want Korver as insurance to JR Smith, then Cavs got it wrong. Korver can’t play big minutes anymore. There is no guarantee that JR Smith will come back healthy, motivated(after getting money) and ready and play like last year. So, Cavs actually need a player who is a play maker and can guard or just hope JR Smith comes back healthy. Lebron is feeling the pressure of Warriors and Spurs doing well. Luckily, he is not getting the same pressure… Read more »
Says the non-Cavs fan.
fan or not as basketball fan, I am right in my observations that cavs will miss Delly and Mozgov, Dunleavy won’t work and Korver won’t be more than a small contributor. But, you will get want your wish, just getting into finals.
Nope.
Honestly,
i’m wondering if they could’ve waited for a buyout on Korver.
Another meaningless loss. It sucks, I get it, the Cavs are not playing well right now. But it also doesn’t matter at all. They easily flip the switch and turn into one of the best teams ever once the playoffs start.
seriously….lol….
the Cavaliers don’t need a playmaker they need a plus defender!!!
I am just at a loss for words at this point. Who knows what the fix is. We are just an awful defensive squad and every game we run two or three really beautiful sets and then devolve ourselves into Cols’s favorite style of basketball. This isn’t working. It’s frustrating to watch.
The fix is start the playoffs. Simple as that.
Cols, you are fooling yourself. I understand your need to be relentlessly positive and enjoy the best basketball Cleveland has ever seen, but there are some serious underlying problems. The Cavs haven’t improved since last season. The Warriors have essentially the same team but swapping out Harrison Barnes for KD. Even if you relegate KD to the same role as Barnes, we won’t be able to afford to leave him like we did Barnes. We BARELY won the championship. We need serious improvement.
Is anyone else starting to question Lue’s ability to be a head coach? I think he lucked into a great situation last year with everyone just being happy he wasn’t Blatt. I always thought Lebron was the pseudo coach last year after Blatt was gone and I’m beginning to wonder if Lue isn’t able to challenge Lebron enough. Some of his decisions and even timeout utilization seem incorrect. He always has this deer in the headlights look and didn’t eve know what quarter it was in a recent TNT in game interview. While I understand what you are saying Cols,… Read more »
I’m not sure how to edit my post but I just realized he missed the game due to the birth of his child, my mistake!! I feel better now at least about that.
Congrats, RJ!
Lue may be able to draw up out of bounds plays but that seems about it. LeBron’s minutes are way up, rotations are a complete mess, the Cavs don’t know how to play defense, sets are ran two or three times and then tossed out, there are next to NO in game adjustments made.
Yeah, he needs to take a step back and re-evaluate himself. He was AWFUL last night. Just awful.
Where Cavs have advantage is, they don’t play any serious contenders until finals while Warriors, Spurs and rockets have to play each other before making finals. Warriors had to expend all their energy and more coming back from 1-3 down against OKC. Cavs came down from 1-3 too but they didn’t have to play another series after that. So, Cavs have more chances of being healthy come finals. Few changes, little rhythm, peak at right time and Cavs will have a great opportunity to upset a west team 2 years in a row.
I’m not saying it’s impossible. Of course there are extenuating circumstances. But I would prefer to be much better than we are.