Recap: Pistons 106, Cavaliers 101 (Or, Experiments Don’t Always Work the First Time)
2017-03-10LeBron James and Kyrie Irving wowed the Detroit crowd with pure power and smooth finishes as they combined for 38 first half points. The King’s eighth triple-double of the season wasn’t enough for the visiting Cavaliers to come away with a victory. The Pistons played a physical brand of basketball led by young big man, Andre Drummond. His 20 points and 16 boards helped Detroit pull within one game of .500 and remain in the seventh seed in the Eastern Conference. Let’s get to it.
1st Quarter:
The Wine and Gold forced a 24 second violation with a solid first defensive possession. It was clear the Cavs had made a concerted effort to properly communicate their defensive switch responsibilities. The versatility of the Cavs’ frontcourt was on display as they easily and seamlessly switched all off-ball screens. Tristan Thompson was very active early on the offensive glass and as a short roll man off Pick and Roll action. It is always pleasant to watch TT assist LeBron James for an easy baseline dunk. Unfortunately, Cleveland still allowed too much dribble penetration. The Pistons missed open looks early to give the illusion of solid on-ball defense. When Iman Shumpert checked in, the problem grew more pronounced as Shump had a hard time preventing straight line drives to the cup. Still, with the Pistons’ missed shots and solid Cavs’ rebounding, a run led by Kyrie Irving and LeBron put Cleveland up early.
There were more clear-outs for Uncle Drew and ‘Bron in the first quarter than we have seen in quite some time. Irving clearly had no respect for his opposition, owning Ish Smith on a variety of moves. When the Pistons did collapse on his drives to the rim, Kyrie found James for a screeching dunk in the paint. LeBron’s exclamation point put the Cavs up 27-12, but his technical for hanging on the rim made the largest lead of the night short lived.
J.R. Smith made his return from injury with 4:15 left in the first quarter. Smith’s defensive talent didn’t accompany him to the scorer’s table as he was constantly a step behind on almost every action. His legs were clearly heavy in his first run in about 11 weeks. It’s to be expected, but it certainly contributed to the Pistons’ comeback. Ish Smith, tired from getting beaten like a drum, enacted some revenge by drilling a three off glass to end the quarter. The shot capped a 10-2 run from Detroit to close the period. After one, 29-22 Cavs.
2nd Quarter:
Deron Williams, Swish, Derrick Williams, Bron, and Channing Frye began the second quarter. Obviously, any lineup with J.R. and the new guys hasn’t had any previous run. That being said, the Cavs ran some good D-Will/D-Will2 screen action off “Horns” with LeBron holding the rock on the right wing. Derrick would screen and dive to the cup, while Deron would pop out to the left-wing three. If the defense pays too much attention to either guy, LeBron will exploit it on this play. Jefferson and Mathew Dellavedova made defenses miserable with the same action in last year’s playoffs. When the defense effectively cuts off the primary dive to the cup and subsequent pop out three, it leaves the opposite left corner three open. LeBron found Smith on the first possession of the second quarter. Though Smith missed the shot, but it was a nice play. Derrick also missed a wide open right corner three off good ball movement. It was good that nary a Piston could stop Kyrie or LeBron going downhill, because Cleveland’s role players were freezing cold from the field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxegpvWWKgA
Andre Drummond led a steadily physical attack from Detroit. The big man set a multitude of crushing screens, both legal and illegal. Cavalier guards got rather wary of going too near Drummond’s wide stance. It permitted countless easy looks for the Pistons offense from mid-range and beyond. The second half of the quarter featured active hands and energy from Detroit and missed outside shots from Cleveland. The Pistons won the quarter handily and took a 55-52 lead into the locker room.
3rd Quarter:
The Pistons continued their physical play to start the second half. Andre Drummond and Tobias Harris got into a bit of a rhythm for Detroit, while the Cavaliers were gently “coerced” into missing some bunnies on the other end. Things were going well for the home team leading the Cavs by 10 until about halfway through the period. Then Channing Fyre checked in. LeBron and Channing hooked up for three consecutive right wing three balls. On the next possession, LeBron corralled an offensive rebound before dishing to a cutting Jefferson for a monster jam. The defensive intensity and rebounding also picked up for the Wine and Gold. Then this happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjlh3nBZXz4&t=0m21s
Soon after, LeBron assisted yet another Frye three bomb. All in all, the Cavs finished the second half of the third quarter on a 22-3 run to put them back ahead 80-73.
4th Quarter:
Deron, Kyrie, Swish, Derrick, and TT started a disastrous stretch of play. The experimental lineup was a sad mixture of excessive unselfishness and unbalanced play. Kyrie tried to force feed a shot to Smith that got taken the other way for an easy bucket. A miserable attempt at a four on one fast break ended without any points. When it was all said and done, the Cavs had surrendered the first 13 points of the period. LeBron checked in for Derrick before Deron Williams stopped the bleeding with a left wing three off the dribble. The Cavs offense got back on track with some creativity in the PnR game that led to Tristan Thompson oop dunks, but the Cavs couldn’t get any stops. Andre Drummond had activated beast mode and Reggie Jackson got hot at the wrong time for the Cavalier faithful watching back home.
It was still an entertaining quarter. LeBron continued his dunkathon with his SEVENTH of the evening. Kyrie made a sick spin move into the lane for a filthy and-1 finish of his own. It was all for naught. The Cavaliers missed crucial open three attempts that would have swung the game in their favor. J.R. couldn’t buy a bucket though his second half defense was markedly better than his first half performance. The Pistons were successful in finding Tobias Harris as the short roll man. The Cavs defense didn’t seem interested in checking him at all. On nearly every Pistons possession Reggie Jackson, Harris, or Drummond found a way to punish the Cavaliers’ mistakes. There were plenty. Not even wild banked in three from Mr. Frye could save this one.
Thoughts:
Before anyone gets too worked up about this loss, it should be noted that Tyronn Lue was experimenting with lineups. With Korver out and Smith in, the new look Cavs were even newer. It’s not in the least bit surprising that some of those lineups didn’t yield positive results. And as the old basketball adage goes, “it’s a make or miss league”. If Swish doesn’t go 1-8 from behind the arc, maybe things are different. The lineups should be flexible until the playoffs and beyond. A loss in March isn’t really relevant to the process.
It’s a shame that LeBron’s outside shot abandoned him this this one. The Chosen One missed all six of his threes and continued to struggle from the charity stripe. It was still a fantastic outing. LeBron’s floor game was on full display with rifle passes and energy on the glass. And for the love of dunking, did he get it done in the paint! LeBron’s seven jams and five layups were almost comical to watch at times. The Pistons did everything they could to stop the LeBron’s hulking finishes. It didn’t matter. When LeBron decided to dunk, dunk he did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5tpuwrB2EA
Kyrie Irving was also cold from outside, but his finishes on the post and in the mid-range were beautiful. His touch with either hand from 15 and in is truly astounding. Somehow, Kyrie only got credited with three assists, but since they were of the dunk variety, they left a larger imprint on my imagination. Irving didn’t really do anything to stop the Pistons’ penetration, but he did crash down on the glass on more than one occasion. The lineups led by Kyrie without LeBron got scorched. It makes his minus 7 seem worse than it was.
J.R. Smith’s minus 28 was pretty accurate, though he’ll be fine. Who might not be fine is Derrick Williams. He was minus 20 in this game. Obviously plus/minus can be a silly stat for a single night, but it highlighted an issue for me. Before signing Deron Williams, Derrick was getting the majority of his minutes at guard in the second team lineups featuring LeBron. It’s easier to hide a guard’s weaknesses on the defensive end because they are not the last line of defense. Since Deron joined the Cavs, Derrick has gotten more run at the PF. With the return of J.R., it is likely to continue to go in that direction. Derrick has never been a good weakside big man defender. It will be interesting to see whether the coaching staff can get him back into his comfort zone while incorporating the other guys into the rotation. Until next time.
Sanders has more upside than Night, no?
Also how great would a LBJ, JR, Derrick will, Sanders lineup be? Throw in RJ and you got the redemption all stars
Ha night= Bogut
Ha night= Bogut ?
Night?
My worries about the Cavs are about how are they going to be performing on both sides of the court come playoff time with all of the in and out of players due to injuries or illnesses. How are they going to gel when they can’t even play. Let’s hope they can find a way to do it.
Looking good for the Dubs now with the Aldridge’s news. If Aldridge’s health issues are as complicated as they stated we will definitely see a rematch of last year finals. Some people believe the Rockets can beat the Dubs but I don’t buy it and the Clippers well they always beat themselves lol.
If were going to do sanders, i really want a low cost team option for the next year or two. That way we get more upside than just 20 games if he does turn out to be SANdERS!
Sanders is a most interesting proposition…can Lebron and champ and company influence him for the better or does he derail a promising opportunity? I would pay money to listen to his mindset on road trippin’ after his first 10 games. I think it’s a very very good experiment. I really hope Larry has a fantastic stretch run and makes it back to the NBA. He was crazy fun to watch in Milwaukee.
I just doubt he’s anywhere ready to play. I mean physically. Nothing Lebron can do about that. I’d love to be wrong, but I doubt I will be…
https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/840352541233815553
Saw this. At the very least, should be very interesting to watch.
Sanders?
http://kingjamesgospel.com/2017/03/10/cleveland-cavaliers-call-larry-sanders/
Admittedly, the KJG gang are usually clueless enough to work on Trump’s staff, but they might have found something here.
I can think of zero reasons to not give Larry Sanders a 19 game audition for 15 minutes a night. If he’s nuts, or sucks, nothing lost. This team has a large veteran leadership contingent, its not Bynum on a team of rookies.
Great explanation as to why Williams has been so bad since the Cavs signed Pudge (my new name for Deron). He is better as a guard… MUCH better.
This, from ESPN, is astounding:
In their past two games, the Cavaliers have been outscored 64-19 in the 18 minutes in which LeBron James was off the court. (This would be the equivalent of losing a 48-minute game 171-51! )
In the 10 games in which Love has been out, the Cavaliers have outscored teams by 72 when James is on the floor and have been outscored by 91 when he isn’t. (Feels like maybe Love is important).
TRADE HIM! He isn’t scoring 26 points a night anymore! Trade him!
These next 19 games should be about two things and two things only: 1. New guys learning to play with Lebron; 2. Everyone learning to play without Lebron. We are making the playoffs. Clinching is inevitable. Seeding is irrelevant. Whether we get out of the East is not dependent on an extra home game. Healthy, we could play the entire playoffs on the road and win the East. LBJ needs rest to be healthy for May and June. The rest of the team, and Lue, need to figure out how to tread water when he sits, because he can’t play… Read more »
How did that theory work in 2008, when Boston and Cleveland each won all the home games in the ECF?
The 2008 Cavs team did not have the same amount of talent or even close as this Cavs team and the Celtics had much more talent than their current iteration of system try harders.
2008 was nearly a decade ago. The only person on both of those teams is LBJ. My point is that if we don’t get out of the East, the reason is not going to be home court. The reason is going to be because we aren’t healthy or we aren’t good enough. If this year doesn’t end in a title, it was a failure. Therefore, if we’re not good enough to get out of the East, home court or no home court, we aren’t beating whoever is coming out of the west (for which we most certainly won’t have home… Read more »
JoeyB. If we don’t get to the Finals it’s a failure. Getting to the Finals is a successful season. We don’t have to win it all to be successful.
What if we lost to the dreaded frauds?
lol, you can still call them ‘frauds’, have that going for him. The truth is, now west is wide open. Cavs will make finals, but warriors are not guaranteed to make finals. Also, at this moment a west is favorite to win it all.
I think that the Cavs are just trying to outscore every opponent now. Yesterday all they had to do was to put a big defender on Reggie Jackson and switch that Drummond PnR.
kyrie was an absolute, utter disaster in guarding that PnR
Shump was awful too.
Jackson always has his way with out guards. He’d be freaking Westbrook if he could play the Cavs every game.
Should we be worried about not filling Bogut’s spot? There can be two reasons for this: 1. They have something cooking and the time is not ripe. 2. They want to save a half million or so by not signing Moreland, who is the obvious person. That would be insane, because if DG is losing about $50M on the season, he should not be worried about losing $50.5M. A major problem became evident last night: TT looks worn out. He obviously wants to keep his “games started” streak alive, but he needs some nights where he only plays five minutes.… Read more »
Gilbert isn’t losing $40-50M. Never take those numbers at face value. Until someone independently verifies this by seeing the Cavs and NBA finances. And that will never happen.
Cols is right. I don’t say that often.
I believe they said they planned on replacing him after the road trip.
Why not before a three games in four days trip? There are only 19 games left.
Couldn’t tell ya. Maybe saving the tax money.
Sure, what’s another $500K dollars to be wasted when you’re already wasting $50 million?
Just because he has the money doesn’t mean it’s the same as spending an extra five bucks on sunk cost. $500K is $500K…
Compared to how much for making the finals, or winning it all?
GSW falls to 2 seed, they face OKC first round, then Houston, then San Antonio. That’s rough.
Doesn’t matter what seed Cavs are, as long as they are healthy.
Hello! Have you seen how they are playing lately?
If everyone returns and plays right, there will be no problem, and Cols, etc., will be laughing at the worry warts. Note, however, that in the history of sports, everyone returning and playing great again happens a lot less than 50% of the time.
Hello! Do you remember what happened the last two years? Cavs go through a rough patch, Panic! at the Blog takes hold. Cols says they are making the Finals. People laugh. Cavs make Finals.
Yeah, that happens, until it doesn’t.
A frustrating game despite the highlight reel dunks from King James. There’s just no way this team should be -22 in NINE MINUTES with LeBron on the bench. It just seems like every possession (on both ends of the floor) goes as badly as it possibly could unless LeBron is in the game. Definitely not the reason we lost, but I thought the officiating was a trainwreck. It never ceases to amaze me how a foul call can be made several seconds after the contact occurs after the player gives the ref a dirty look. Why aren’t they actually watching… Read more »
Just can’t wait for the playoffs to start. It’s not fun to watch the Cavs tinker around and BS for two months of the season…
I enjoy watching them. But then I like being NBA Champs and watching the best player in the NBA and a top two player of all-time play for my favorite team.
What do we have, 4 more years or so of James? I will enjoy every minute of it.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive. I enjoy watching LeBron James destroy everything in his path. I don’t enjoy watching our team crumble any time he isn’t on the court to the point that they are sabotaging his presence.
I don’t mind. I like that Lue is experimenting with different lineups and we are working towards something. Trying to maximize the regular season is something only fraudulent teams do.
I understand the experimentation. The problem is that the product right now isn’t fun for me to watch. I am not, as you often fear, panicking. I am still fairly certain the Cavs will settle down into form come playoffs. What I am saying is that I would prefer to fast-forward to that part because I miss dominating our opponents.
Ah, that makes sense. Fast forwarding to the playoffs would definitely show this team at near full power.
You and Cols should start a Pollyanne club.
Eh. It sucked when the Cavs sucked. But they are in first place and defending champs with the best player in the NBA on their team. Being positive seems like the most likely emotion.
The time to start getting angry and negative will be when we are back in the lottery when LeBron leaves or retires. Then I’ll complain.
I don’t think I’m being overly optimistic. Ben mentions it in the article that Lue is going to be messing around with rotation and everything for the foreseeable future. This makes things a bit more difficult on a Cavs team that hasn’t had a consistent rotation of guys since, what, December? Another thing is that many of our problems are effort based, or so it seems. It’s fixable. I’m not guaranteeing they fix it. I’m not ignoring that we have been last in defense since January or something. I just still believe the Cavs will get it together. If they… Read more »
A couple of games where we miss a third guy. LeBron and Irving have been great but no one else has stepped up. We miss Love.
holy bejeezus, i agree with cols! what love does to change the game for everybody else has been so evident by his absence. can’t wait to get him back — and great to see him relaxed and positive sitting in with fred and a&c
this latest stretch of games has been frustrating, but ultimately, it’s better we work out the kinks now (and lose bogut!) than in the playoffs. still, don’t want to lose the #1 seed to boston, who’s looking more and more confident all the time.