[Editor’s Note: This is the first installment of our annual six part series of division previews.]
Phoenix Suns (David Wood)
The Suns aren’t exactly the flashiest team and not even the brightest one in the league right now, despite their name. However, they’re one of the smarter teams. Phoenix was mentioned in Kyrie Irving trades about sixty-thousand times this summer and nothing ever happened with them. That was all because of the one player they refused to give up: Josh Jackson.
Anyone who follows the NBA casually knows that Kyrie Irving is better than Josh Jackson. Jackson is a rookie who has yet to play one minute of meaningful basketball, and even though he has the looks of being a really above average two-way player, he might never play a meaningful minute in the pros. The Suns realized though that the unknown of Jackson is better than a known player like Kyrie who, when a trade was all said and done, probably couldn’t move them into contention or even the playoffs. That’s extremely honest.
The Suns aren’t just rolling with useless guys though. Eric Bledsoe is going to be back this season playing great defense and managing the offense, and young gunner Devin Booker will surely get buckets. The Suns are really banking on their young talent developing. They still have Tyson Chandler and Jared Dudley on their roster to bring some veteran stability and Bledsoe is at the perfect point in his career to funnel a little knowledge to young guys and take in whatever older players can show him.
Additions: Mike James (Panathinaikos), Josh Jackson (Kansas) and Davon Reed (University of Miami)
1. The Suns really need some of their young players to pan out right about now. Center Alex Len was supposed to be able to hedge on screens and dive to the hoop, but he still hasn’t developed those skills as much as he needs to. In fact, he was forced to accept just a qualifying offer after four seasons with the Suns because no other teams wanted him. Dragan Bender looks like he’s far away from being ready to contribute. His lanky frame makes him nearly useless on the boards and defensive end, and it contributed to him being a 3-point chucking machine. He shot just 27% from deep and took 6.3 per 36 minutes because he had no desire to get down low.
2. Eric Bledsoe is really good. The guy is one of the rare two-way point guards in the league; it’s not out of hand to mention his defense along with Patrick Beverly’s and Chris Paul’s. He’s also exceedingly above average as an offensive play maker putting up 6.3 assists per game before being shut down last season, so the Sun’s could tank. He may be traded for a pick or some prospects at some point this season. He’s doesn’t have the veteran presence that automatically trains new guys to not spend entire checks at the strip club, and he might be too good for the Suns to stomach. They’re going for a high pick this season.
3. The Suns need another ball handler. Tyler Ulis is 5’9,” and too young, Devin Booker has never met a shot he wouldn’t take, and Brandon Knight is perpetually injured. Knight is going to miss this season with an ACL tear. Right now, Ulis is trending the right direction, but realistically it’s on Booker to become more of a creator to start his ascension to superstardom, which would really help Phoenix out. Booker has a 28.6% usage rate and assists on just 16.3% (3.7 assists/game) of the baskets made when he’s on the floor. If he can substitute some of his more ill-advised shots with passes, he’s going to become an even better player.
Player I’d Love To Have: Eric Bledsoe would be the perfect Cav. He lets the game come to him more than Kyrie did and could certainly run a second unit given how he’s been doing with some not so great Suns’ players. And, DEFENSE.
Player I’d Hate To Have: If the Cavs ever got Dragan Bender, I’d go crazy. He’s not good, but his name is so amazing that I’d delude myself into thinking he was good for years. Imagine Austin Carr screaming, “The Dragan fires another flaming ball from deep in the Q.” Or, “The Dragan comes from above to get the weak stuff gone.”
Prediction: 28-54
The Suns aren’t good and they know it, but at least they aren’t trying for a quick fix. Bledsoe is a fun watch, and when he shares the floor with Booker, TJ Warren, Tyson Chandler, and Jared Dudley the Suns become a legitimate NBA team for several minutes a night. That’d be enough for me if I were watching them and knew that the future had lots of brightness trying to punch through.
Los Angeles Clippers (Cory Hughey)
For a fella from Youngstown, Ohio, I have a disproportionate number of friends who are Clippers fans. Pathetic hoop heads are drawn to one another in a way, and while living in LA I found Lakers fans in their home lair even more unbearable than the token douchag from Parma just for their sheer numbers and cigarette and Jarritos fire breath. Clippers fans are better fans than Lakers fans if for no other reason than Clips fans know their s**t. They aren’t stuffed animals with strings on their backs that when pulled repeat, “count the rings.” Every Clippers fan I knows has a fricken Loy Vaught jersey in his cardboard wardrobe moving closet that he uses as his normal closet.
Questions abound as Chris Paul dumped the team to play with The Beard. Considering Paul was leaving either way, I liked the return they got. Gallinari has teetered on the “could be great” border for years. Blake Griffin is this generations incarnation of “he’s great, but he could be elite if he cared more about basketball than the life it provides him,” and if he could stay healthy.
Additions: Danilo Gallinari (Nuggets), Patrick Beverly (Rockets), Sam Dekker (Rockets), Lou Williams (Rockets), Montrezl Harrell (Rockets), Milos Teodosic (CSKA Moscow), Jawun Evans (Draft),
Subtractions: Jamal Crawford & Jimmer Fournette
Storylines:
1. Can Blake be “The Man?” Blake made the Clippers League Pass worthy before Chris Paul ever arrived with his combination of don’t blink if he’s driving athleticism and his awesome sense of humor. He was a bigger, and more marketable Vince Carter in 2010. Today, I’m not sure if any team would trade their star for him. It’s not just the injuries. It’s the stuff off the court. This is a fulcrum year in his career, and he might not age well as his bumbles bounce hops fade.
2. Was Chris Paul the problem? No one will argue that Paul isn’t the best point man of his generation, but have his teams fallen short every year because he’s just not a leader? Being a leader is a tricky thing. You have to be the energy. Everyday that you walk in that room, you need to know that you have a remote control in your hand for yourself and each member of your team, and you have to know when to push the right buttons. If you press too soft, they won’t be motivated. If you press too hard and rub everyone’s nose in their pile, the people will do what you say, but they’ll never respect you, and will turn on you at their first opportunity. From the outside looking in, Paul was a taskmaster, and he lost his teammates’ respect years ago.
3. Is Doc part of the future? He had one of the most talented teams in the league for the past four years, and they never made it to the Western Conference Finals. I’ve thought that he was probably more of the right guy in the right place in Boston than an upper echelon coach. Injuries certainly played their part, but having three stars, an open check book, and not really competing for a title costs guys their job in half that time.
Player I’d Love to Have: Patrick Beverly. Once the Irving trade was announced my first thought was whether the Cavs could flip Isaiah Thomas to the Clippers for Beverly. The Clippers would get some offensive punch and a marketable star, and the Cavs would gain a defensive menace to knock Steph Curry’s mouthguard to the hardwood. Beverly’s 1.37 DRPM was second at point guard to Chris Paul, and he’s locked up for the next two seasons for $10.5 million.
Player I’d Hate to Have: DeAndre Jordan. I just don’t think he can be part of a modern day champion. You can’t have that much money invested in a traditional center. His free throw malfunction will force you to burn timeouts.
Prediction: 48-34
Vegas currently has them with an over/under of 43.5, and I think they exceed that with by a few games. Blake makes an All-NBA team after a two-year hiatus, and he gets his mojo back. Gallinari and Blake form one of the most versatile forward combos in the league. Milos Teodosic becomes the 30-year-old White Chocolate Jason Williams who smells like cigarettes and expresso. As per their annual custom, they’ll be eliminated in the second round.
Golden State Warriors ( Cory Hughey)
Life isn’t fair, and it teaches you to be patient along the way. I took Mojo for a solid mile long walk this morning. After returning from our trek I started prepping potato and leak soup. The leaks and bacon dominated the air. As I was about to boil the potatoes a new smell emerged. You know what it was. She could have left her homage to the Browns anywhere in the neighborhood to let everyone know what she’s the alpha wolf of Barton Circle, but she chose the ottoman as her omega. On the rare occasions she goes in the house, it’s always next to the ottoman. What did the ottoman do to her, and why does she hate it so much?
The Warriors signing of Kevin Durant last year just wasn’t fair, and it happened completely by chance. If Steph Curry’s paper mache ankles held up during the 2011-12 season and didn’t cause him to miss 40 of the 66 games during that campaign and average career lows of 14.7 points and 5.3 assists, he would have signed a near max extension instead of $44 million over four years that he ended up with. And Kevin Durant wouldn’t be a Warrior.
If the league had the foresight to predict the potential ramifications of the salary cap jumping $22 million in one off-season, they’d have fought harder to smooth out the rising cap over the next two or three seasons so a title team wouldn’t have had max cap space to flirt with a rivals star. Kevin Durant wouldn’t be a Warrior.
While life isn’t fair and I hate everything about the Warriors, I respect the hell out of them in a way. They are the best run organization in the league. The formation of the Heatles in 2010 created a league wide fear that building a team organically and competing for a title was no longer a possibility in a world where stars are aligning their free agencies to form Olympic team reunions. The Warriors hushed those fears, and played the NBA draft from 2009 to 2012 like they had cheat codes landing Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, and Harrison Barnes without a pick in the top six.
The Warriors return their entire core from last seasons title team, and added even more wing depth to the most versatile roster in the league. They are the Galactic Empire of the league.
Additions: Omri Casspi (Timberwolves), Nick Young (Lakers),
Subtractions: Ian Clark (Pelicans)
Storylines:
1. Will they revert to their 2016 cockiness? The real reason it’s so hard to win back to back titles isn’t because everything plays up to you, but rather, whether you handle success or play down to them. You could tell the Cavs weren’t as hungry last year after their emotionally draining Finals comeback and a summer of not wearing shirts and slamming bottles of Barolo.
2. Will Steve Kerr walk away? There’s got to be a point where Steve Kerr has closure. He went from a dude with no coaching experience whatsoever to one of the best ever in just three years. The NBA grind and the pain it causes to his neck/back just isn’t worth it.
3. Is this the greatest team ever? The GOAT questions that have followed LeBron for the past decade will start being spewed on the ESPN afternoon argument block. A team isn’t really considered a dynasty unless they win three titles. The bad boy Pistons were great, so were Olajuwans Rockets. They’ll never remembered like Jordans Bulls or Magic’s Lakers. One more title and this Warriors team is in that conversation.
Player I’d Love to Have: Draymond Green. He’s the real leader of this Warriors team, not Durant, not Curry. Green is their heart. No one in the league puts forth more effort than him and he’s got Rick James arrogance. There’s a long list of guys that everyone hates unless he’s one your team, and Green is the GOAT of the heel squad.
Player I’d Hate to Have: Nick Young. I don’t have kids and I’ve never been married, so I’ve got more than enough time for fantasy football. I’m a big believer in regression to mean. He’s been a sub 40% from downtown eight of the past nine seasons. I don’t think last year is who he is at all.
Prediction: 69-13
They will flirt with 70ish wins just by showing up. They will have to make it through the scariest Western Conference for their entire run. What if they draw the Timberwolves in the first round then face a healthy Spurs team in the second round, and then have the new Thunder troika waiting for them in the Western Conference Finals? Their reward for making through that minefield will be a hungry, and presumably well rested Cavs team out for vengeance.
In the small stomach that protrudes through my diaphragm (I have a hiatal hernia), I didn’t think that there was anything the Cavs could do with Irving to beat this Warriors team without them losing a player to injury. I still feel that way. Unless someone gets hurt, the Warriors will win their third title in four years.
Sacramento Kings (Elijah Kim)
The Kings may have gotten rid of DeMarcus Cousins last season but the impacts of that move have come to full fruition during the 2017 NBA Offseason. Armed with the extra draft capital and cap space, the Kings were a surprising team, drafting four rookies and adding a few veterans, including 40-year-old Vince Carter. If Buddy Hield can continue his development as the next Steph Curry (kidding), and the mix of high draft picks and veterans can work out, the Kings could be a mini-surprise team and get to 35 wins.
Additions: De’Aaron Fox (draft), Justin Jackson (draft), Harry Giles (draft), Frank Mason III (draft), Vince Carter (Memphis), Zach Randolph (Memphis), George Hill (Jazz), Bogdan Bogdanovic (Fenerbahce)
Subtractions: Langston Galloway, Aaron Afflalo, Ben McLemore, Darren Collison, Ty Lawson, Tyreke Evans
Storylines:
1. How will the Kings develop their rookies? With four draft picks and plenty of young players, the Kings are trying to build a culture, which was the main reason they traded away DeMarcus Cousins. Fun fact, the longest tenured King is Willie Cauley-Stein who was drafted in 2015. The Kings will have to be able to balance their veterans and young players to develop and win.
2. Who will emerge to be the focal point? Going along with the first question, you don’t spend a top-5 pick on a point guard to have him come off the bench for a long time. De’Aaron Fox is too talented to be waiting at the end of the bench. Are Kings fans confident enough to give the organization credit for knowing when the time is right?
3. Which big men will stick, and which will get traded? The Kings have a glut of big men options. With five centers on the projected roster, it’s not likely all of them will stick in today’s fast paced NBA. Having this many big men is an indicator of how well the Kings are being run (not very).
Player I’d Love to Have: De’Aaron Fox. He’s a fast and intense PG able to run by any player in the open court. He’s not a great shooter yet or a great distributor but the kid fights hard and loves the game.
Player I Love to Hate: Zach Randolph. He’s a mismatch in today’s NBA and got caught for felony possession of marijuana in California. Talk about not being very smart. He used to be the godfather on the grit squad, but at his advanced age and with his questionable off-court dealings, he’s an easy target to dislike.
Prediction: 32-50, No playoffs
The Kings haven’t been been very good and won’t be this year. When you have 1/3 of your roster devoted to the one position that 28 teams don’t play in crunch time, you likely won’t be winning many games. The Kings will have to trade some of their young big men. Personally, I like the Harry Giles pick but I’m also scared that his knees won’t hold up. De’Aaron Fox will likely star in moments here and there but will be behind George Hill a lot for most of the season. The Kings are gonna Kings, again.
Los Angeles Lakers (Nate Smith)
This is a weird season for the Lakers who look to be big players in the 2018 free agency. With Russell Westbrook, LeBron James, Paul George, Chris Paul, and J.J. Reddick all expected to be free agents, the Lakers will be looking to show that their young core can complement superstars. In addition, there are many possible restricted free agents next summer depending on how Contract extensions go over the next few weeks. Further complicating things are the bizarre protections on the Lakers’ 2018 first rounder. The Lakers keep it if it’s pick 2-5, but have to give it up if it’s No. 1 or lower than No. 5. (It doesn’t make any sense to me either).
Additions: Lonzo Ball (Draft), V.J. Beachem (R), Vander Blue, Andrew Bogut, Thomas Bryant (R), Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (DET), Alex Caruso (R), Josh Hart (R), Kyle Kuzma (Draft), Brook Lopez (BKN), Briante Weber (CHA), Stephen Zimmerman (ORL)
Subtractions: Tarik Black (HOU), Timofey Mozgov (BKN), David Nwaba (CHI), Thomas Robinson, D’Angelo Russell (BKN), Metta World Peace, Nick Young (GSW)
Storylines:
1. The big story this season and around the NBA will be Lonzo Ball. The most electrifying player in Summer League will be analyzed every night, and his Dad, Lavar Ball, will run his yap on talk shows and sports radio every morning. Few doubt that Lonzo will be able to adjust to the pace of the game mentally, but his ability to run the point is still in question. His handle needs work, he doesn’t have a great first step, and he has wonky mechanics on his jumper. Cole Zwicker of Fansided broke it down.
Proficient modern lead guards have to be a threat to score at the next level and at multiple levels on the court. Ball does not project well to that role. His lack of wiggle and dribble moves with the ball hinders his ability to get to the rim at the college level, even with pristine spacing. That will only get more difficult against NBA lead guard athletes and athletic bigs who can switch and defend in space. Even when Ball got to the rim this past year, his lack of explosion in traffic, rigidity and uprightness as an inflexible athlete, inability to de-accelerate and lack of physicality finishing through contact were issues against far inferior competition than he will face at the basketball in the NBA.
Lonzo Ball jumps forward and left on every shot. His landing point is predictable for the defender and since his release isn’t super quick and is in front of him, he is particularly easy to defend. NBA players will closeout hard to the left side of his body and trust that his funky kinetic chain will do the work for them if Ball evades them to the right.
2. The Lakers may be better off letting Jordan Clarkson run the offense, if they want to win, but if they want to tank, letting Lonzo take his lumps learning the point guard spot couldn’t hurt. That will be the question for the Lakers all season: compete or tank. They certainly have some veterans: Luol Deng, Corey Brewer, Brook Lopez, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, and Andrew Bogut. If their young guys come around, they have the coaching to just miss the playoffs.
3. Will the young core gel? Brandon Ingram is supposedly bigger than his rail thin frame of last year. Jordan Clarkson looks to justify his four year/$50 million dollar contract. Larry Nance Jr. looks to follow up his solid sophomore year (Magic called the should-have-been dunk of the year nominee his “secret weapon“). Kyle Kuzma looks to build on being one of the best players in the Las Vegas Summer league. And Tyler Ennis played some great games at the end of last season, waited around for a contract offer all summer, and then went back to L.A. on one of the bargain contracts of the summer at two years/$3.2 million.
Player I’d love to Have: Larry Nance Jr. for the Cavs connection, but as that’s not remotely realistic, I thought Tyler Ennis was the bargain of last year’s free agency. He shot 49%/43%/84% and averaged 12 and four assists over the last five games of last season. I think he’s got potential.
Player I Love to Hate: It’s going to be fun to watch Lonzo struggle, just to see Lavar Ball’s head explode and make the Lakers look like a gong show.
Predictions: 34 – 48 No Playoffs
Despite desperately trying to tank at the end of last year, the Lakers finished the last ten 5-5. They have some talent and some hungry young guys. They also have a great young coach. Despite that, they’re going to struggle to defend. When the choice comes down to winning or losing and letting Ball learn, they’ll choose the latter. Look to see them try to trade off some vets at mid-season rather than compete in a loaded West. Then they’ll just miss out on keeping their draft pick.
MIGHT BE AT SCRIMMAGE ALSO—WENT LAST YEAR—WAS A NEAR CAPACITY CROWD —EXCITED TO SEE THE NEW PLAYERS / ROSTER PERFORM / MESH
With you 100% on the excitement. Too bad no pre-season game in Columbus this year for easy viewing for me. Once Bron gets back we will know what Lue wants to try first. Gonna have 7-8 new guys on the 15 man.
Agree before all these changes I was 100% non interested in season. Now Im keyed up for it. I bought nba2k18 just to start playing with the guys early :). Too bad I suck at it! Lost to the Bulls and Suns in my first two games. Derrick Rose – 2pts. Dwayne Wade – 2pts. Isiah Thomas – 2pts. Smh
If Lloyd has this right, I like it. James, Love, & Crowder need to play the most minutes. JR & IT next.
I agree with this.
2nd unit going to be tricky. Looks like Wade, Shump, Korver, Green, TT. Not a lot of shooting there. Especially with Rose added. Frye would add some. Still, I doubt Lue plays 12 guys.
I think we will see backups interspersed with starters rather than a wholesale swap of 5 reserves.
I’m sure the line ups will be pretty staggered so it won’t be subbing 5 players all at once. Maybe Rose and Crowder get subbed out first, so then you have Wade, JR, LeBron, Love, and TT for a few minutes. Then Love could always start the 2nd quarter with Wade, Korver, Osman, and TT.
Agree with Arch. It is very rare to see an entire shift come onto the floor as a unit in the NBA or most other basketball.
The Doc Rivers special? It doesn’t happen (that much) anymore. Hope Lue doesn’t imitate Doc whose stuff he was in.
If you have enough good players, shift changes might be a useful thing to do in certain circumstances. For example, you could try to tire out a team by using high intensity full court press for an extended period of time. If you had two sets of players and could swap them every couple of minutes so they could rest up, you could create some serious havoc. An alternative might be to take out the regulars and have five high motor fast guys replace them for a few minutes and press everyone all over the floor. Delly pretty much did… Read more »
Getting back to hoops. Jason Lloyd reporting for the Atlantic that Crowder will start and TT will move to the bench.
https://theathletic.com/114433/2017/10/02/jae-crowder-expected-to-start-for-cavs-tristan-thompson-moving-to-the-bench/
For now, it looks like Rose, JR, Crowder, James, Love. 3 shooters. 2 playmakers off the dribble. 3+ defenders. Love neutral. 2 excellent cutters. When IT gets back, that is getting nasty.
That’s exciting stuff. Going to the scrimmage tonight. Hoping to get real close to get a good look at how these guys look tonight.
From that same article: Jose Calderon has been steady early in camp, and his place on the roster appears safe, particularly with the injury concerns among the point guards ahead of him. Youngsters like Osman and Ante Zizic, while they won’t be part of the rotation, aren’t in danger of being moved.
Conclusion: I hate Shump!
WHY ????…………..GOD BLESS / PROTECT / MAKE THIS COUNTRY GREAT AGAIN !!!!……PRAYERS TO ALL VICTIMS / FAMILIES IN VEGAS
MAGA? Really? Get that weak stuff out of here. GOP killed the assault weapon ban & voted to rescind Obama era rules making it harder for mentally unstable folk to by guns.
How about some common sense?
THIS!
MADE ME PROUD TO SEE THE USA GOLF TEAM WIN THE PRESIDENTS CUP—-OH BY THE WAY —DIDN’T SEE ANY GOLFERS ‘ TAKING A KNEE ‘ FOR THE ANTHEM —-THANK YOU GOLFERS !!!!!!!!!
With you on that, NOMAD. It probably would have died away by now except for last Sunday Trump seizing an opportunity to energize his most fascist backers. This Sunday Trump interrupted his golf outing at a zillioniars club to insult the Puerto Ricans for not having already fixed up after the Hurricane without any money. What leadership!
Whats wrong with taking a knee during the Anthem? I can hardly think of a less abrasive form of public protest than kneeling for 90 seconds
It’s offensive to all the people, who pretend to sing the national anthem.
The anthem does have a rascist component, by the way. During the war of 1812, the British gave some slaves their freedom in exchange for their willingness to fight on their behalf. Called the Colonial Marines, this unit fought in both the sacking of DC (near where Francis Scott Key was from & his favorite city) and defeated his own troops in battle. The rarely sung third verse of the anthem does reference them. Here is a link to the story & the song lyrics:
http://www.theroot.com/star-spangled-bigotry-the-hidden-racist-history-of-the-1790855893
For a lot of perpetually poor franchises, the rot starts at the top. Clippers with Sterling. Knicks with Dolan. Browns are nearing that territory.
Browns will get better. They just have to trust the process. They cannot hit reset every 2 years with a new coach, new systems, & new quarterbacks.
I am going to take a MAYBE on that. You cannot trust the process if the people in place will never be able to do the job. It appears that the Front Office is outsmarting itself. Consider this: 1. Last year, instead of drafting a QB, the Browns traded the #2 pick for a pick in the mid teens and a first this year. The Eagles used the #2 to pick Wentz, who pretty much appears to be a future franchise QB. The Browns used the pick they got for Coleman, who is so-so, hurt a lot, and might wind… Read more »
+1. It’s unbelievable the Browns have passed on several promising QBs, when it’s been the most glaring need since probably Bernie Kosar.
You have the Wentz trade very wrong. The Browns made two trades. They traded the #8 they got from Philly to Tennessee for the #15, a second rounder, and a third rounder. All together, they turned the #2 pick into 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks, 2 third round picks, and a fourth round pick.
SORRY I TRY TO BE POSITIVE—BUT THE BROWNS PLAIN SUCK —–KNEELING FOR THE FLAG OR NOT —-NOT WATCHING THIS PUTRID DISPLAY OF FOOTBALL ANYMORE !!
I don’t understand why anyone does? I haven’t watched a Browns game in over 2 years. I find it amusing that people actually expected them to be better. Maybe one day they can become good enough to get stuck in the 4-12, 5-11, 4-12 vortex.
I and plenty others watched the Indians for 40 bad years. We have been enjoying the last 20.
I haven’t watched a Browns game in three years. Dad had season tickets for 25 years, which I inherited and I kept them for 18 years. Pathetic is too polite a term to describe this franchise. All my sports dollars now go to the Cavs/Indians.
I see a couple basic problems with the Browns, most or all of which ultimately are due to inexperienced ownership. 1. They have NEVER found a front office that knows what it is doing. Maybe they got fired before they had a chance to right the ship, but it never looked like they had the potential to figure it out. I don’t think any of them have been successful somewhere else later on. 2. The owners and FO over and over try for a quick fix rather than build a solid team. The prime example is signing high priced free… Read more »
Klubot has locked up the CY young and with the Astros lost we locked home field throughout American League playoffs.
Regarding the Kings, I’d take George Hill.
He’s pretty old though. I agree but what do you give up for him?
I’m just referencing the article as in “player I’d like to have.”
If I were to pick someone off of the Lakers, it would probably be Ball, Sans his helicopter parent. The Cavs now have a need at PG, now and for the future.
I honestly don’t get all this PG angst. We have 5 guys who can play PG. IT, James, Rose, Wade, & Calderon. Yes, there are age/injury concerns. But that is a lot of guys. We may shed one prior to the season. We don’t need another PG. Aside from the move to make room for Wade, I think these are the guys we roll with this year.
Right, but if you were allowed to take a player from the Lakers who would you chose? Regardless if we need a PG or not, Ball probably has the most value.
I came in late. Did the Lakers say we could have someone?
Did you read the article?
Sorry, I forgot already.
The problem is that no point guards on the roster are even average defenders at this point in their careers.
The Cavs won’t have any trouble on offense, even if Rose and Wade forget it isn’t 2011. But defensively, the Cavs don’t have a single good on ball defender to throw against an opposing PG.
And no, national media, Iman is not the answer there.
Which is why I’d use a pick to go get Bledsoe or Hill.
JR and yes, Shump, will do a lot of cross matching. Rose was part of good defensive squads in Chicago. He has lost a bit, but he is still only 28.
I guess my point was that we are not making a move for a PG. I get the concern, to a degree. But it is not happening.
How are you so certain they won’t?
I keant Bron & Love’s backs.
Vardon has Lue starting to think about Love at C.
https://articles.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2017/09/kevin_love_could_start_at_cent.amp
Love + Bron + Crowder + JR + Rose/Wade. That has my vote as long as Bron & James’ backs hold up. Start TT vs beefier teams.
Mix in Wade/Rose, Shump, Korver, Green, TT, Frye, & RJ. Damn, we deep. I hope Lue utilizes it.
The only chance any team has against the Warriors is to construct the bad boy pistons.
Spurs were kicking thei butt (without Parker) until Leonard got Zaza’d.
Agree that you can’t out pretty them. Or out shoot them. Play physical. Beat them up inside. Move the ball.
Get that weak stuff out of here! It looks like the Cavs should have a decent shot.
I think Lonzo will be good. You could write that type of critique about Delly’s athleticism and shot but he found a way to be decent. All those points are offset by the fact that he can pass especially on the fast break.
I didn’t say he wasn’t going to be good. It’s a progression. I also don’t know if point guard is his best position yet. His handle is just ok and he doesn’t have much wiggle. Delly made up for his lack of skill with superior defense and rebounding his rookie year. He was also a very good pick and roll player in half court sets. Still, he didn’t play pure point either. He was a combo guards. Ball will be fine. He’s just not the second coming of Jason Kidd… Yet.
Schroder in unusual bar fight:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20860927/atlanta-hawks-guard-dennis-schroder-arrested-misdemeanor-battery-charge
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/913864042271387649
https://twitter.com/swish41/status/913852758108893184
I love Dirk.
Same. In my top 5 favorite ever.
https://twitter.com/BecksWelker/status/913851715597762560
https://twitter.com/TheRockwell/status/913850584725360641
https://twitter.com/cavs/status/913846724690632706
Breaking: Russell Westbrook agrees to 5-year, $205 million extension with Thunder – Wojvia @ESPN App http://es.pn/app
Glad to see this. Stay strong Russ. Fight the power.
No more Russ to LA BS… Hopefully LA gets shut out of the FA market next year.
They have been the past four years. Magic isn’t gonna change that.
Wow. Just saw that. Guess Bron isn’t teaming up with Russ in LA. Now maybe PG will stay in OKC too!
Who believed that in the first place?
Lakers will have to settle for George and LBJ in their fever dreams now…
Bill Simmons is running out of guys for LeBron to team up with in LA.
If Wade is going to serve as the backup PG until IT gets back then maybe Calderon is up on the chopping block. Fingers crossed.
Still need a third PG till then.
You don’t think we can subsist until January without a 3rd pg?
I think they’ll be fine. LeBron is gonna be the primary with the starters and share with Rose/Wade, and the other will run the second unit.
There’s a rumor swirling around the Wade and Nichols had some sort of intimate relationship in the past.
https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/913782667686158336
https://twitter.com/CavsFredMcLeod/status/913822452551225344
For the Cavs, guys who I see as:
30-35 mpg: James, Love, Crowder
25-29 mpg: IT, JR, TT
18-24 mpg: Rose, Wade, Korver
8-17 mpg: Frye, Green, Shump
There will be more minutes available with IT out. Rose will play more to start. That is 12 guys. I figure Calderon or RJ gets the axe. Whomever remains is thex13th man, with Zizic & Osman spending time in Canton.
Barring injury and dysfunction, Golden State is going to win like 75 games this year.
No way. Dubs would burn out winning that many. More like 65-68.
+1
Ya, don’t forget how good the West is this year. Even more disparity between the two conferences this year. Houston, OKC, and SA are all threats this year.
Prediction is hard, especially about the future.
I agree with Cory, and would want Draymond from the Dubs!
Could have drafted him easily. Had 2 2nd rounders at the top of that round.
As for the Pacific: GSW, Clips (both make POs); Kings, Lakers, Suns (lotto: Kings over 30 wins, Lakers under).
If Draymond was a Cav, he’d be my favorite player of all-time.
What? LeBron tho….
Francona is on the new Road Trippin podcast.
Along with Snap, Crackle, and Pop apparently
Well they discussed Popovich, but he didn’t make it on the pod. They did have the GOAT Francona though.
Didn’t know you were from Youngstown Cory! Glad to have some more representation here on CtB.
Oh yeah. Originally lived on the Westside. Ended up going to Brookfield after moving back from North Carolacky.
I think we are in for the same problems as last year. Insanely unstoppable offense, but a problematic defense. Even more so if/when Thomas gets back. With some added motivation we may storm through the regular season, but we’ll need shump and JR to be healthy, engaged, and basically peak defensive versions of themselves in order to compete with the warriors. Thankfully, they might get bounced by any of three teams this year.
I think with LeBron being able to rest now that we have a solid second unit, he should be able to apply that energy on the defensive side. Him, along with Crowder, a healthy JR and hopefully a more engaged TT should be dramatic better than last year.
Also Korver, although not extremely athletic, is a smart defender just like Wade. I think we are better than last year.
Do we worry about TTs concentration? He will have a newborn come championship time.
I think he screwed up plenty last year and needs to redeem himself. LeBron won’t stand for him being a negative on the court a second time around.
Wade playing PG with the second unit does not bode well for Calderon, IMHO. We have a glut of SGs who all play at a higher level than Jose (JR, Wade, Korver, Shump) & sliding Wade to PG opens up minutes.
As much as Wade and Rose aren’t what they were, either could probably abuse backups.
True. One of the biggest issues against the Dubs last year the lack of offense from the second unit. Wade, Rose and Green should help with that.
As much as Wade and Rose aren’t what they were, either could probably abuse backups.
Clips got some good players for CP3: Gallanari, Lou Williams, Beverly. Blake is a stud. I think they challenge for the #5 seed and are a PO team. Clips, Grizz, Minny, Portland, Denver, Jazz, & NO all in with a shot for the last 4 slots. Phx, LAL, Sac, & Dallas don’t have enough.
Grizz, Portland, and New Orleans fall out, IMO.
There’s a NSFW video of Gabrielle Union in the Twittersphere singing about DWade and Cleveland. I won’t post it on this website, but it’s amusing.
Wow, very bullish on the Clippers. It would be pretty crazy if they made the second round of the playoffs, with the Warriors, Thunder, Spurs and Rockets, and the Timberwolves lurking. Nuggets should also have a top 3-5 offense.
I think it more likely that Gallo/Blake get hurt, Doc mails it in without CP3, and they miss the playoffs. But I’m interested to watch that team
Yeah, on second thought they are probably out in the first. I am excited to see Blake without Paul, and what Beverly can do in a more prominent role.
I could see the Kings maybe grabbing the 8th seed in the West with 40 plus wins, but then again they’re the (Browns), I mean Kings.
I think the Kings are going to be pretty lousy…might get in the playoffs in East, but no way in the West.
You’re probably right.
Our first rounder, a 2020 2nd, Calderone and Shump for Bledsoe. Do the Suns bite?
Plus Osman!
No. Listen to Bron’s statements the other day. He talked about continuity. The issues of bringing guys in midseason. He was liking the idea of having the guys who are here now be the guys for this season (once we make the move to make room for Wade).
Barring injury or something lopsided falling in our laps, I don’t think we make an in-season deal this year.
December is still early enough for continuity.
Here’s an idea… start Wade at PG, JR at SG, with LeBron, Love, and TT.
https://twitter.com/joevardon/status/913472034809794567
Tribe with 100 wins!