From Distance: Lesson from the Past
2018-01-10Four point play…
1. When I was doing my masters, a student friend of mine taught me a life long lesson. She was a charming sort, always quick to smile, and very focused on her studies. Good Folk. The lesson?
Whenever we’d be hanging out and someone would start to tell a story that wasn’t particularly entertaining and/or necessary, she would throw her head back and yell, “Don’t Care!!!”
Like straight up, “DOOOOOOoooooooonnn’t CAAAARE!!!!
It was amazing. She refused to waste another precious second of her life on planet earth. Yet, she did it with such good humor that the offending storyteller had no other recourse than to smile shyly and end the boring story to which we were all being subjected. No rancor. No acidity. Just the merciful completion of an annoying moment of existence. I don’t think many people could have pulled it off the way she did.
Most people can’t deliver such a flagrant disregard for someone’s thoughts while seemingly still respecting the person delivering said thoughts. She certainly had a gift, but it’s not like it was magic.
Many people all over the world are able to separate ideology from personhood on a day to day basis (ok, maybe I am being wildly optimistic with the use of the word many).It’s just that her efficiency and good nature made people reevaluate themselves more than they questioned whether she was rude for prematurely cutting off their lame old stories.
She forced an introspection by being utterly honest. Notice, I didn’t say brutally honest. There was nothing brutal about it. On the contrary, she was almost sweet in her overt nature. Maybe that’s the problem.
The fact that the phrase “brutally honest” is a fixed phrase is rather disheartening. Why is it that we have to equate “real talk” with brutality? Honestly isn’t always the “nicest” way of handling a situation, but it is rarely a bad way to handle one.
With that, I need to say to all of you who are worrying about the Cavs’ mini-slump.
Don’t Care!!!!!
Seriously folks. It just isn’t important. People are breaking their eyeballs on the ESPN trade machine for guys like Kent friggin’ Bazemore. What, so the Cavs can have another athletic wing who thinks he “has arrived”, has no shooting gravity, and isn’t really a lockdown defender?
Don’t get me wrong. Kent Bazemore isn’t awful. He just isn’t worth any of the draft capital that the Cavaliers can offer for him. Any deal worth doing is going to need the picks and Cap Space equalization that the contracts of Iman Shumpert and/or Tristan Thompson could offer. Unless the Hawks are itching for a deal that nets them Rose, Shumpert, Zizic, and Calderon for Baze, it’s not worth it for the Cavs. Considering his 2016 contract, he isn’t worth any future picks.
2. Enough about trades. The Cavs already have enough integration to do with Isaiah Thomas’s return. One thing that I foolishly got excited about was the rotation adjustment Tyronn Lue made against the Magic. In that contest, Lue took Thomas out first so IT would be fresh to run the second unit. Cedi Osman finally got some meaningful burn with the other starters, and it was marvelous. The third quarter run that propelled the Cavs to a 40 point quarter was fueled by Cedi’s energy and LeBron’s greatness.
Of course, Lue immediately went away from Osman in the following game against the Wolves. I’m the one who has continually talked about the necessity of lineup tweaks during the regular season, but I wouldn’t have been heartbroken to have seen Cedi get some more first quarter time.
In any case, the Cavs are using the regular season as practice. The lineups are completely in flux because the Cavaliers don’t practice. The games are the only time in which the coaching staff can evaluate lineup possibilities. I’m all for that. It would just be more pleasant to watch if it seemed Lue understood that one should test the same lineup a few times in a row to see if it can build some chemistry instead of immediately trying something new.
“Naja”. In German, that essentially means, “a very slightly annoyed whatever“.
3. We are halfway through the season and the Eastern Conference still has more teams over .500 than the Western Conference. Predictably, the Warriors, the Spurs, and the Rockets continue to rule out West. Somewhat less predictably, the Celtics have continued to pile up victories behind their dominating defense.
Currently in the second place in the East is that Canadian team Drake likes. People are too frequently yelling “don’t care” in regard to the Toronto Raptors. Yes, it’s hard to get too excited about a Raptor team that has been easily dealt with in previous postseasons. I don’t see them winning four games of seven against LeBron James, even with DeMar DeRozan having found the key to his outside shot. Ya know what, I think people might be yelling “don’t care” exactly the appropriate amount. Abort.
The Miami Heat be streaking! Okay, this is more about my affection for James Johnson than anything Miami related. Additionally, I have professed my love for Slovenia in this very space, so of course I love me some Goran Dragic. Unfortunately, old friend Dion Waiters will miss out on his 1.1 million dollar bonus as he continues to recover from his ankle issue.
Even without Dion, the Heat have won eight of their last ten with the help of old Herculoid, Wayne Ellington. How has he never received a decent contract? I’d trade Shump, Rose, and some cash for him immediately if it were legal.
4. Annoying as it might be, Stephen Curry is going on a midseason tear. Since his return from injury, Curry is dropping 35 ppg in only 32 mpg. That is, er, something. What is even more ridiculous? Curry has average 6.6 three-point makes per game over his last five. Yes, he is averaging six and a half makes in 32 minutes of game time. That’s insane. So much for that cold start to the season.
As much as Cavs Nation make dislike Curry come June, we owe it to our basketball fandom to catch a few games here and there. The dude is the natural progression of hero, Mark Price, after all.
Quickie: Like any metric, Real Plus-Minus isn’t a perfect stat. Still, it is fun to look at the bottom of the league to see whether the eye test matches down there as much as it does up top where guys like Curry, Bron, and Harden reside.
Worst player for the Cavs according to unified metric? One Derrick Rose at 447 of 468 players. He only played seven games, Ben! Lighten up! Hmpf. Seven games too many.
The next worst Cav is Tristan Thompson at 381st place. Sigh. The number backs up my own eye test anyway. Meanwhile, Channing Frye is sandwiched between Kris Middleton and Taj Gibson up in the top 100. Yes, not a great stat. I realize all of my biases are just dying to be confirmed. Just sayin’.
I think it is about that time. There is a little voice in my head yelling “Doooooon’t Care!” My friend’s lesson and gift to me. Like the abrupt cutoff to the theme music of “Better Call Saul”, don’t be afraid to end.
At best, LeBron James was brutally honest when assessing the Cavs struggles at shootaround Thursday. At worst, he was resigned. “I love our potential,” he said. “We have … this is just us during the regular season. It’s four years since I’ve been back and this has just been us. We have great months, we have not so good months, we have times when we’re not playing well, we’ve got times when we are playing well. This is just us. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde at times. But potential is always there. We’re going to continue to get better every… Read more »
Sounds like he read my comment yesterday…
God, I wish the Cavs could’ve grabbed this guy.
http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2018/01/jaylen_brown_believes_fasting.html
Never make a deal with Danny.
https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/951297364538556416
It’s funny. The widely panned bulls and Pacers deals turned out much better than originally thought for all teams involved.
Kid’s a great basketball player. On their first game against the Cavs you could tell he had the skills needed. Good for him.
He definitely put it to us. Glad to see some more worldwide talent.
Nice to know he does it against other teams too.
isn’t he concerned about “falling off the edge “
He likes living on the edge.
I think the Flat Earther is playing in London today.
He should be careful… he could woke British…
Don’t worry…
Probably slept on the flight with the window closed… Wouldn’t want to see the shape of things or anything.
George hill>baze
Twice I tried posting a lengthy (somewhat detailed) message regarding my take on Lue and his inability to look at players beyond a name. The first time it said “Waiting for Moderator”. The second time, after about 15min and refreshing the site 5 times, it just didn’t even go through. The comment did have the words idiotic and cLueless in it, but I wouldn’t call it offensive – I guess unless Lue is a moderator. There were no pics, links or curse words… So is this just random or are we not allowed to voice an opinion that may go… Read more »
No ban on that at all. We do ban the word “Col$,” but we could probably remove it. . We do have a character limit of 1500 characters. I imagine that’s what you went past. Apologies for being stifled.
Oh didn’t know about the characters count, that could’ve been it. I did write Cols, but no $ sign.
Thanks Nate!
Found it and restored it.
Thanks amigo!
If you want, please go ahead and delete this comment thread.
Okay, this is my second response to your reply Nate. The first reply to your comment did have the word C-O-L-S, like my original post (the one I tried posting twice) did neither had the money sign. That reply went into “Moderation” too. Maybe it’s just that name. Weird.
I didn’t know about the character count, thanks for letting me(us) know. I’ll probably won’t bother with the original comment now, I’m past it lol.
I’ll look and see if it’s stored anywhere
Don’t worry. It wasn’t even that good of an argument lol.
Where is the girl who says “DOOOOOOoooooooonnn’t CAAAARE!!!!” ?
any chance the cavs (or any other team ) of going after LOU WILLIAMS are now shot after ‘ SWEET ‘ LOU –put up 50 last night in a win against the dubs—-congrats Lou !!
Knowing Balmer, he’s thinking about a playoff run.
Not a fan of Lou Williams. He’s a liability defensively. He can certainly score, but I don’t ever remember him being an impact player in the playoffs.
MikeO brought up the trade possibilities article from FTS. Went and looked into it. The defensive numbers are pretty convincing, Ben. He shoots really well from catch and shoot as well. Do you have some other insights into why he’s not the player on the stat sheet?
My issue with Baze’s shooting is that he doesn’t provide gravity. He still has a nonshooter rep in the league. That means people go under all off ball screens with him involved. He has to drill 42% ish plus in order to make up for that lack of respect. He doesnt. I like the power that he plays with. Dude is passionate and cares. He just isn’t that good to throw away the limited draft capital that they have. Maybe if nothing materialises in the next few weeks or we are subjected to Shump/Rose minutes, I’ll change my mind. As… Read more »
I get the gravity thing though if they are going to leave him open looks I’d hope that we’d see a Kyle Korver type increase in 3pt efficiency rather than a Jae Crowder type regression. You may be right though, that he just isn’t the shooter. I guess I’m just far more concerned about our defense than any productivity impact on our offense. We can afford a dip if our defense gets better.
Been thinking a lot about the sentiment “The games are the only time in which the coaching staff can evaluate lineup possibilities.” Been wondering if Lue has a plan with these or not. It’d be easier to believe he did if the Cavs’ “jumbo” or Wildcat lineup from last year – which was one of the best in the regular season – hadn’t been buried in the playoffs last year. My faith is somewhere between Ben’s and Jason/JRL.
Apparently Lue didn’t hear LeBron’s interview on NBA2k lineups… The complete and utter absence of the Wildcat lineup from last year is my whole basis for thinking Lue is just constantly guessing on lineups and then doesn’t pay them any mind. They are good while they are good and when he decides to move on from them, he moves on.
2016-17 Season: Derrick Williams: 25GP – 17.1MPG – 6.2PPG – 2.3RPG Iman Shumpert: 76GP – 25.5MPG – 7.5PPG – 2.9RPG If one was to ONLY look at stats, we would talk ourselves, as I’m guessing cLueless does, that Shump is an overall better player than Derrick Williams. Buuuuut we are smarter than that. Derrick Williams was the better player last season between the two. Specially when it came to NOT making stupid ISO plays. Yet somehow our idiotic coach decided not to play Derrick during the regular season enough to incorporate him into the rotation, he didn’t even bother during… Read more »
Gerald Green wasn’t in the NBA. Now he’s averaging 20ppg a couple weeks later. The days of someone not being g good just because they’re not in the NBA are over.
Ben…you always tend to highlight something that the eye test tells the discerning fan. Cedi’s presence on the court rarely turns into crazy runs, but he also tends to coincide with solid stretches of defense. Frye, for all his defensive deficiencies in a swith everything format, can actually hold his own on defense when against 1 opponent. what frye DOES do that TT has not chance to do is give the cavs another triple threat: he can shoot the rock like nobody’s business, he can drive on slower bigs without fear of him getting stuffed at the rim consistently, and… Read more »
Yet somehow Lue can’t find quality minutes for Frye since TT came back.
Bulls win. Grizz win. Hawks with a 3rd quarter lead. Wins:
10 = Hawks (pending)
12 = Magic
13 = Grizz, Lakers, Kings
15 = Mavs, Bulls, Nets, Hornets
16 = Suns
17 = Jazz
On wins, tied for 6th. Have hope for Grizz, Lakers, & Kings to catch the Nets. Magic & Hawks probably not.
Mavs edge Hornets. Utah win at Wiz. Nets lose by 34, at home, to the Pistons. Bulls in OT in NY.
Pretty good night for the pick shaping up. Grizz & Hawks competitive as well.
Problems in order: JR, TT, TLUE
Shump is somewhere in there too if he starts playing again
As has been stated ad nauseam on this blog, TT is a problem. Not sure how he becomes a plus contributor in any situation save spot minutes against true bruiser centers. Problem is, there are few of those who make a large impact anymore. Even then, the cavs still might be better with Frye. I think his career has plateaued and even regressed. I don’t think there is any way to trade him save in a package with other assets we shouldn’t give up. That doesn’t mean he needs to play though. This team doesn’t have time to mess around.… Read more »
don’t claim to be a big reggie miller fan—but I do support his recent comments directed at LA-LOUD -MOUTH—-and says it is time for magic to “flex his muscl;es ” a little —-totally agree with reggie
“BALL DON’T LIE “
HaHa!
Lue is one of the worst head coaches in the NBA. This will be his first and only head coaching job in his career. He’s utter garbage.
http://www.georgehorner.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Other-than-that-Mrs-Lincoln1.jpg
We could have used you at the 0-16 Browns parade.
Not at all obvious. What matters on the Cavs is what LeBron wants to do, and what happens in the playoffs. No one knows what LeBron wants to do. What is Lue’s record in the Playoffs? Last year was 13 – 5. The year before? Maybe 16 – 4? If that is right, Lue is 29 – 9. That is North of 75%. How does that compare with Mr. Genius in Boston, or anyone else you like?
Coach Lue cares…
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22029672/cleveland-cavaliers-coach-tyronn-lue-opened-practice-film-session-address-defensive-woes
He wants them to be more aggressive.
BEN —-THANK YOU FOR YET ANOTHER ” THERAPY ” SESSION IN LIFE —-HELPING US TO “KEEP IT REAL “
that lady student friend of yours sounds charming, must be bored easily…and it isn’t a ben worth article without the obligatory dig at Derrick Rose….believe the last article didn’t have Rose in it and it was stunning and i wasn’t sure what was going on, but this one, brought everything back to the norms, need to dig at an injured player over a useless stat….need to. There are few factions of followers on this blog, ones that freak out over every game, ones that are concerned about legit issues, and others who are apathetic. While this article is trying to… Read more »
Rose has earned all the digs. He’s not only been predictably bad, but he has made everyone else on the floor less effective. He’s not a good NBA player anymore.
Mike Zavagno (smart dude) has a good article at FtS about potentially upgrading at wing via trade. Really good read, but Ben won’t like it because he endorses Bazemore as the top target. (I’m no Bazemore fan, either, but I doubt it happens since he and Lebron hate each other)
Also some good analysis of JR’s defense, which has been truly awful.
#NBADONTCARE
https://twitter.com/JasonLloydNBA/status/951200867629268994
Okay, maybe I’m the odd man out but to see what the Cavs have done in the last 10 games and say, “Don’t Care!” is rather foolish. Can the Cavs “Flip the Switch” on defense come playoffs? Maybe. Will they win 4 games against the Dubs with, let’s say, a 50% increase in defense intensity? NO. The Cavs increasing their team defense by 50% will still have them at 12-15th place in the league – not enough to beat a team with 4 All-Stars. Can they even elevate their defense with the current roster? Doubt it. Bad habits are hard… Read more »
^^^^^^^ Don’t Care…
Don’t complain come playoffs if the Cavs don’t make it out of the East ;)
When do I ever complain? I’m good with just the 2016 Championship, and always will be… the rest is just gravy…
I agree. Also, fans pay good money and are interested in each game. Not to lose sight of the bigger goal of the playoffs, but I really do care about games in January. The process of a season matters. It is why we are here, right now, talking about each and every game. They matter. They probably matter also in terms long-term habits, as JRL notes.
The Don’t Care is not about flipping a switch or what they will do come playoffs time. It’s about understanding that this team doesn’t practice, is trying to incorporate a high volume player, and figure out a defensive plan all on the regular season fly. We wouldn’t freak out if they were awful in a practice scrimmage. Paying fans or not, that is what they are doing right now. We can argue about that being a good product, but that’s not this particular discussion. This 10 game stretch over the holidays and with IT’s return? Clearly, it is not representative… Read more »
We were trending crappy long before IT returned. I don’t buy that as an excuse. For poor execution? Fine. For poor effort? Nope.
Also agree on the habits thing. We need to start forming good habits to have any chance at all vs GSW & we go the opposite way.
What did you think about on this, at this time two years ago? Things were looking much worse. Remind me who won that year.
Amen. Don’t care.
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Nice analogy between your friend’s “don’t care” and your relative ambivalence toward the Cavs’s play of late. I would say “don’t care” about all the losses too, if the Cavs were not also 29th in defense. One just cannot say “don’t care” about that regardless of what time of year it is. The only way the Cavs took the Dubs to a six game series in Round One was defense. In the championship year, we were 10th in defense and of course won game 7 with a very low scoring game. Last year, it was demonstrably shown the Cavs –… Read more »
That’s a great point. It’s why I’m always in the camp of give lbj less minutes so his time on the court can be full effort. Even if his 75% is better than everyone else, I’d rather have 100% at 25 minutes a night or 70 games a year.
I always took ‘naja’ as more or less ‘oh well’ , but you have more Germany living experience than me…
I think the Cavs have to make a move of some sort before the deadline because I don’t think the defense can be better than bottom half of the league at best with the current roster. Especially when going against the better teams in thd league.
So glad Rose isn’t back yet. Still have PTSD from the games he played.
Yeah, you’re right. It’s like a sighing “oh well”. “And so it goes” sort of thing.
I agree on a move, but not a Bazemore centric type one. Only a superstar type acquisition.
Good news:
https://twitter.com/joevardon/status/951132348615155712
Sad that we consider it a positive that two of our main rotation pieces from the beginning of the season are going to miss even more time. To be clear, I agree with you.
I know. I’m just hoping they don’t get enough practice time and fall out of the playoff rotation.
Great read, as always Ben. Still think I’d rather make move that relieves the Cavs of Shumpert, Thompson, or Rose. In a perfect world, it’d be all three. I just don’t think there is a team out there that is willing to do more than ask us to pay them to take those guys.
haha – that friend sounds awesome.
Put me in the don’t care about blowout losses in January. If I have a care it is that the Cavs probably don’t have enough 2-way talent to beat the Warriors or Rockets in a series right now.
Also, the Thunder are going to do some crazy stuff in the playoffs I can feel it. I think they’ve beaten all of the top teams in the league at least once so far.
I was always on the “Thunder will figure it out” train. I hope they give the Warriors some serious run for their money. It would be so sweet if they somehow managed that upset. The look on KDs face would be worth the price of admission.
They haven’t looked very good lately against bad teams, but then again neither have the Cavs…
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