Recap: Detroit 124, Cleveland 115 (IT’s a Shame, IT’s a Pity)
2018-01-31The Wine and Gold suffered a demoralizing loss to the shorthanded Detroit Pistons, Tuesday. Not only did they lose the game in confidence-sapping fashion, but they also lost Kevin Love who broke his left hand early in the game and could be out a rumored six to eight weeks. The game was over when Isaiah Thomas checked in for Dwyane Wade with 6:29 left in the fourth and the Cavs’ down by three. Instead of letting Thomas ride the pine down the stretch like he did Sunday, Lue chose to play him and end all hope the Cavs had of winning.
I chose one of my favorite all-time album opening tracks to head this recap. It’s a shame that the Cavaliers traded for Isaiah Thomas, and it’s a pity that he’s currently the worst player in the NBA.
I wasn’t the only one that had this reaction to Isaiah’s re-insertion. LeBron James’ demeanor changed to an incarnation of Hillary Clinton on election night when Thomas entered for Wade. James’ defense and energy immediately lagged as the Pistons ripped off a 16-5 run against LBJ, Thomas, and the rest of their demoralized teammates. Thomas finished with a game low -25 plus/minus on 3-10 shooting with six turnovers in 33 minutes. To be fair, Isaiah did go 12-13 from the line and added five dimes, but despite flopping his way into half a dozen points at the line, his play was perpetually putrid, and it is painfully clear that his teammates don’t believe in him any more than I do.
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First Quarter: The game started as meekly as it ended as Thomas turned it over four times in first five minutes. He’d have had five turnovers, but one hit a Piston on the play where Kevin Love hurt his hand. It was a routine post-up where it just appeared that Love caught his hand at a weird angle against Anthony Tolliver, who didn’t do anything dirty. An eerie pall gripped the Cavs and their fans as Love went to the locker room for x-rays. A broken fist balled up in the pit of my stomach.
The Pistons edged away and early it looked like Reggie Bullock would be the Piston going scrub fuego as he drove past Cavs on poor closeouts or scored at the rim on cuts while also firing away form three for nine first quarter points. Stanley Johnson kept pace as the quarter wore on with nine of his own, on a coast to coast, some heady drives, a three, and a persistent two-offensive-rebound grinder basket. The Cavs were playing four on five on both ends of the floor as Thomas was just out of control on offense. With no angles to pass the ball, I.T. forced it into terrible windows, and the Cavs didn’t seem to run many coherent sets for him to get going.
Remarkably, after Thomas went to the bench, the team started picking it up as James recorded a couple of thunderous dunks and Channing Frye finished the quarter with a dribble drive from the right corner for a tough man’s and-1 to goose the score, 33-27 Pistons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5TdhTOlDB0
Second Quarter: The team hit a good rhythm, and even played some solid defense as they kept chipping away at the Piston lead. Even Isaiah Thomas had some nice plays as he scored eight (five at the line) and was +9 in the quarter (which tells you how awful the rest of the game was for him). James added eight of his own, including another dunk off a nifty Thomas drop pass in the pick and roll, and Channing Frye had himself yet another and-1. While Frye couldn’t match Drummond’s athleticism around the basket, he matched his physicality and energy and did a great job of banging and fighting to keep Drummond off the boards and allow his teammates’ to rebound. Cleveland started piling up enough stops, rebounds, and threes to get the lead back. Little Isaiah even took a painful looking charge from a rumbling Drummond.
Dwyane Wade added six and LeBron eight of the Cavs’ 36 points, as the Cavs shot 60% in the period. For the Pistons, Reggie Bullock chipped in another seven by moving without the ball and finding the (many) creases in the Cavs’ defense. But the quarter definitely marked the Cavs’ best stretch of the game as the ended the half up 63-59. They would’ve been up six if LeBron’s buzzer beater hadn’t been ruled too late by a fingernail still brushing the ball as the clock read zero.
Third Quarter: The news of Love’s broken hand leaked out by half time, and we were understandably glum, including the Cavalier starters which now included Crowder. They got mostly smoked by the Pistons starting front court, as Anthony Tolliver, Stanley Johnson, and Andre Drummond each dropped nine as they beat a path to the rim and the Cavs’ starters went 3-17 in the period. Meanwhile, Tristan Thompson showed us that, no, he cannot finish one handed, as he went 0-3 including this weak attempt at the basket that got obliterated by Andre I’m-gonna-guard-three-people Drummond.
J.R. was similarly groan inducing as he went 0-4 including a couple of baffling forays into the paint where he tried to score over multiple guys and also had his candle snuffed out by Drummond. Smith was -14 in the quarter, and Thomas -13.
The only saving grace was the Cavalier bench and a smoking hot Channing Frye who sizzled 3-4 from outside the arc as Drummond wouldn’t come out to guard him when he and LeBron would run pick-and-pop-a-shot. Unfortunately, a miscommunication at the end of the quarter led to a missed opportunity on such a play as instead a shot for Channing or the King, Langston Galloway got a steal to close out the quarter, 89-84 Pistons.
Fourth Quarter: I thought Lue knew what he was doing when Isaiah played nine minutes of the third. “OK, I thought, He’ll run Thomas for the first three minutes, then play Wade down the stretch.” Due to some gifts from the officials, despite giving up ten points to the likes of Dwight Buycks and Anthony Tolliver (by murdering Tristan Thompson on switches), the Isaiah lineup only bled three points off the diff in the first 3:27 before Thomas was subbed for LeBron with the Cavs trailing by only seven. “OK, they got this,” I opined.
Kyle Kenny Powers Korver promptly swished two triples on his patented left wing curl, and the deficit decremented to three a minute later. Then I noticed and exclaimed…
“What in the name of all that is good and holy is Isaiah Thomas doing back in the game!!!!!?”
Sure Wade had played a while without a blow, but anyone with a brain knew this game was over if Thomas was playing. Those people included LeBron who pretty much gave up on defending anyone or trying. Ish Smith nailed two jumpers that LeBron should have obliterated. Despite a miracle three by Crowder, Reggie Bullock forced a timeout as LeBron was forced to collapse to the key to cover for Isaiah “traffic-cone” Thomas and the Pistons easily swung the ball to Bullock for three.
After the timeout, James looked checked out, as he threw the ball away on a drive. Ish Smith cheated off of Thomas knowing that LeBron wouldn’t pass to him and got a back breaking steal and was fouled on the layup to put the Pistons up nine.
James clearly didn’t trust his teammates as he ball-hogged his way into two more turnovers and jacked a give-up triple try while Stanley Johnson canned his 26th point and a Drummond thump pushed the piston lead to 16.
James then literally checked out and the only note of garbage time was seeing Frye drop his 20th point on an Eff-Lue triple with 1:34 left before our final score, 125-114, Pistons.
Ugh
Clearly, something was either said to Ty Lue about playing Thomas in crunch time. Ty’s either trying to prove a point to Thomas, being told by the front office who to play, doesn’t care about winning, or is just a bad coach. But oh-my-God, it is completely obvious that LeBron HATES playing with Isaiah Thomas.
It is beyond ridiculous that Dan Gilbert’s penchant for short point guards who can’t play might be the reason LeBron leaves Cleveland. It’s so obvious that Thomas is the worst player on the court every night. Yes, the Cavs have plenty of other problems, but none of them are even broachable while Thomas is playing for this team.
The numbers are in for Isaiah. He’s posting an RPM of -3.48, 93rd among point guards, and he’s the only player in the bottom fifty point guards playing over 25 minutes a night. And this is on a team where most lineups include LeBron James and Kevin Love, two very good RPM players. He’s averaging 6.2 three point attempts per game yet shooting 27% on them. He’s shooting 39% from the field overall, and averaging 3.9 assists and 2.6 turnovers. His raw numbers are worse.
Cavs with Isaiah Thomas On
Tonight: 97.9 oRTG, 125.3 dRTG
This season: 103.1 oRTG, 118.2 dRTGCavs with Isaiah Thomas Off
Tonight: 127.2 oRTG, 92.3 dRTG
This season: 110.9 oRTG, 108.6 dRTG— Mike Zavagno (@MZavagno11) January 31, 2018
How is he getting minutes while the Cavs are keeping Calderon, Rose, and Cedi Osman on the bench? How would the Cavs be worse off starting Osman at point guard? This about sums it up. Further, he still has no step. He was being guarded by a defender just idly standing up 30 feet from the basket. If he can’t blow by a lock-kneed defender that far from the hole, then a five-foot-nine, he is not playable. And when healthy he’s a horrible fit with LeBron as a guy who can only thrive with very high usage with the ball in his hands, as his off-ball usage is fairly limited. Oh, and when defenders see him defending the break after a long rebound, their eyes light up.
"When it comes to basketball, he's all about getting his shots and he's all about getting paid."
— @TheJonasKnox: As good as Isaiah Thomas is, his teams seem to be thrilled when he’s gone. https://t.co/lThugWsuB6 pic.twitter.com/MPAjVAxEmG
— FOX Sports Radio (@FoxSportsRadio) January 30, 2018
Forgive me for understanding why LeBron can’t stand playing with him. We all heard this from Ken Berger’s Bleacher Report article, yesterday.
Thomas has become a favorite of Gilbert, and they often exchange calls and text messages, a league source familiar with their relationship told B/R. This isn’t necessarily unusual on a team with an owner who is as involved in the basketball side of things as Gilbert is. It also isn’t great for locker room chemistry, because the rest of the players know it.
“LeBron just looks at everybody as a shill for Dan,” the league source said.
For someone who’s made it a goal to make sure NBA players (especially he and his friends) get paid and that players are respected, independent, and outspoken, Thomas sidling up to Gilbert while being an absolute boat anchor on the court has got to be galling. And te bottom line is this: if LeBron can’t stand playing with someone, they shouldn’t be on the team. Period.
When it comes to Thomas’ and Gilbert’s relationship, as the Kanye song goes, “I ain’t sayin’ he a gold digger, but…”
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The Cavs transition D was a nightmare. In the funniest sequence of the night, four Cavaliers crashed the offensive board which left a four-on-one break by the Pistons with I.T. as the only one back. I’m sure you can tell how it ended. The Pistons ended up pushing on every long rebound and turnover and getting to the rim on drives to score 44 paint points in the first half and 68 in the game. Again, the whole team seems to have a “Why bother” attitude when Thomas is in the game.
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J.R. Smith: 2-10, no threes, -13. The Cavs have to improve their starting backcourt. That’s the only way they’ll compete.
Meh.
Tristan Thompson was ok, but again, I don’t understand why the Cavs aren’t having him retreat a bit to keep from overswitching. The Pistons Wings were lighting him up. His defensive positioning was gbad. Still, eight points, 10 boards in 27 minutes. I’ll take it.
Stanley Johnson dropped a career high 26 in 40 minutes on 21 shots to go along with ten rebounds and four dimes. The Cavs really bumped his confidence, and this seems like the kind of confidence boost games a lot of guys get against Cavs that they end up regretting later. Reggie Bullock added 22 including 4-6 from three, and Anthony Tolliver added another 20. For a team that “doesn’t have any wings” if Bullock and Johnson can use this momentum, the Pistons are gonna be a witch.
LeBron with 21, six boards, and seven dimes, but four turnovers and a melt down in crunch time. At least his jumper looks ok from the left side. He had a couple elbow jumpers and left wing threes, but he won’t even shoot from the right wing and probably shouldn’t. James played 20 minutes in the first half and 38 over all. He looked gassed and pissed at the end.
I guess Crowder is going to be the starting power forward. I’d start Green. He might even be a worse rebounder though.
I’m too tired to rant about Ty Lue. Seriously though, There has to be 12 minutes somewhere for Cedi (who was inactive)… That might be the least of my concerns.
The Cavs need another big to get through till April, but at least we don’t have to listen to Kevin Love trade rumors.
Yay.
The bench unit: Wade (18, eight, and five), Korver (10 points), and Frye (20, six boards, two blocks) were really good. Wade should’ve been playing down the stretch over Thomas, and Frye over Thompson as Drummond just controlled the paint (21 points, 22 rebounds, seven dimes, three blocks, three steals) and the Cavs couldn’t keep the Pistons from packing it… Wade was +15 on the game, and he and Frye were by far the two best non-LeBrons.
We get to watch the Cavs Wednesday… LeBron is still here.
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Leonard Cohen sums up how I feel about the Cavs right now.
[perfectpullquote align=”full” bordertop=”false” cite=”” link=”” color=”” class=”” size=””]It’s a shame and it’s a pity
I know you can’t forgive me
The ending got so ugly
You never ever loved me
Dreamed about you baby
I know you have to hate me
I’m naked and I’m filthy
And both of us are guilty
Anyhow
Have mercy on me baby[/perfectpullquote]
It’s a back to back so maybe that means IT is not playing!!!
https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/958750487699865600
Not that I expect it to improve much, but that is while he is clearly not 100% coming back from injury. Please no one make the mistake that I am arguing that IT is playable on this Cavs team.
RIP Oscar Gamble, who once said, “When I’m at bat, I’m in scoring position.” Also said, possibly speaking of Yankees dysfunction in the early Steinbrenner years, “They don’t think it be like it is, but it do.”
I wonder how the hat stayed on? Awesome mustache too!
https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/958735905988235270?s=17 Someone should inform LeBron of his defensive tendencies during the regular season…
Over the years, we have all seen LeBron scowl at the bench over some substitution and that player has a very short run on the court. Or a very few times, I have seen him subtly even waive off someone at the scorer’s table. Nothing would make me happier at this point then to see James do that when IT is waiting to enter in any fourth quarter. And not subtly either
I wrote this before seeing the not surprising stat that IT’s defensive rating of 117.5 is the worst this year among players with at least 25 minutes, and more incredibly the worst rating over the last 25 freaking years. Anyone else would be not just benched, but nailed/superglued/tied/chained to the bench…..like forever.
From the Lowe Post today it sounds like Jenkins thinks Bron stays in CLE unless there is a sure thing somewhere else. With GS still around, there are no other sure things.
Of course, if we don’t even make the playoffs then all bets are off.
Try to convince CP3 to come to Cleveland? Maybe we’ll get lucky with the Brooklyn pick and ship that + Love + IT + salary filler for Anthony Davis
Winning aside, it should be fun to be part of a team. I think Lebron will have more fun with a young team like 76ers whom he can lead to finals. I would think it is more fun to take a team to next level for Lebron if not winning championship. Right now, Cavs is not a fun team to play with.
Someone should tell Bron seeding matters. 9th is problematic.
helps you be undefeatd in the playoffs
Thanks for the recap, Nate. I am grateful to the CtB staff for being there to watch the games and keep me up to date. I was so demoralized after hearing about Love’s injury I couldn’t muster the courage to watch the second half. Team is in a hole now from paying out big bucks to TT and Shump. That leads to high-risk dice rolls like depending on IT. It might be worth it to keep playing him for a while to really teach Dan Gilbert a lesson. In many respects he’s a good owner and if the team has… Read more »
He’s a terrible owner. He spent money, which was needed to win a ring. He deserves credit for that. In every other respect he’s a terrible owner, particularly the way he meddles in personal decisions in which he has no expertise.
1. IT in Boston have Brad Stevens, and a very good defensive/pitbull style team that no one can create an offense on their own. 2. IT in Cleveland have cLue and a roster that doesn’t cater to IT’s strengths. IT is a hell of a player, being all star 2x is no laughter. But that version imo is lightning in a bottle for 2 seasons because of reason #1. Is IT a star-player-on-a-championship-team caliber of player? That remains to be seen, and until that he won’t have a place in this roster. He’s a 2nd round fodder at best as… Read more »
IT is an all star because people think points are everything. He is a below average player and a terrible fit for this team. He is unplayable in the playoffs. UNPLAYABLE. Kyrie irving was able to shut him down defensively in the playoffs.
He’s unplayable in the regular season too.
+1. IT WAS an all star because he had four plus defenders on floor with him. Still can add value as instant offense guy off the bench if used in short stints but his ego is bigger than his frame, he has this all star thing, next contract etc.. all over his mind.
I get tired of idiots, mostly on Twitter, saying ‘what’s with the IT hate??’…there is no hate, he’s not good, and he has an ego the size of an MVP. He wasn’t even ‘good’ last year, if ‘good’ means he ‘s going to take you somewhere meaningful. And last year was the most ‘good’ he’s ever going to be. The Cavs would be instantly better if they gave Calderon all of IT’s minutes starting today. Calderon is not good defensively, but he’s not on the short list of worst in NBA history. It’s not even that IT is bad defensively,… Read more »
consider – if you spent 2 hours a night for the next 30 game nights practicing your free throws instead of watching the cavs, you would be a better free thrower than tristian thompson. and he makes 15m a year.
use your time wisely my friends!
Ha!
I guess we’ll finally see if LeBron’s “I don’t care about seeding, just get me to the playoffs” humblebrag pays off…
Kay Felder did an amazing job studying/ imitating IT’s game, because I can’t tell the difference between them anymore. IT is a slightly better shooter, I suppose.
And defender.
Goldhammer’s an idiot… but technically this is a Windy quote…
https://twitter.com/HammerNation19/status/958720676201992193
When he’s rigt, he’s right. But that would be ‘disrespectful’ to IT…
Can someone help IT establish a texting relationship with Charge leadership?
Someone should tell him he can be King of the Fourth with the Charge. There is also game film of Kay Felder he can study.
Kay Felder helped this team more than IT. At least he didn’t completely sabotage offense and defense by demanding the ball and then blaming the poor defense on everyone else.
Yep. He was just bad, but played spot minutes, and wasn’t a black hole on offense…probably better defensively, too…
My optimistic guess would be that Kev returns 3/19 at home against the Bucks following the six game West Coast swing… by that time objectively looking at the strength of schedule, I’d put the Cavs two games over .500 at 36-34… The silver lining is that outside of two games against the Raptors and a trip to Miami, the final 13 games are mostly winnable, especially if Love is playing. Current final record prediction based on those metrics (which don’t account for a major trade) would be around 44-38… probably good enough for the 6-8 seed…
To then get bounced in the first round of the playoffs ;)
EG, we’ll be in 7th by Valentine’s Day, if not 8th. We have a 2 game lead on Indy (7th) right now.
With Wall out perhaps the Wiz stink too. Though they just beat OKC without him. Good thing Redick is hurt in Philly.
LeBron is pouting. 21 pts for him sucks.
I think we are under.500 when Love returns. Unless Lue gets fired or we make a trade.
Like I said, this is my optimistic view… which would allow for a 15-18 record for the remainder of the season. This is providing Love returns around that 3/19 Bucks game, and that it doesn’t take him long to work back into a groove. It also doesn’t account for trades that could still happen in the next week or so, or buyouts after that. IDK, I think it’s fairly reasonable since a lot of other teams are dealing with injuries as well. But, yeah, they probably need to win at least 13 more games this season to make the playoffs… Read more »
I think it’s pretty interesting that given our current guard situation that IT is the only true PG who even got minutes last night… Never mind Rose, never mind Calderon, let’s not try Shump (no really, please don’t). Just a whole lot of bad IT. Never thought I’d be longing for Jose Calderon to get a start…
I think we should start Calderon, JR, Bron, TT, and Frye then bring Wade, Korver, Green, Crowder, and Zizic off the bench. Rose can provide interval minutes where needed.
Id start Green over Frye cuz Channing can’t really handle starter’s minutes. And despite the spacing, we would be literally very slow to start a game.
I was worried about speed as well, but I’d rather be slow and execute offense to start the game then fast and unable to produce anything. It’s really a poor trade off if there isn’t a trade.
Without Kev, there are essentially two more winnable games before the ASG… @Orlando 2/6 and @Atlanta 2/9… Assuming they win both, record will be 31-25 at the break…
so a winning record then – great!
I don’t think Orlando is winnable.
And are we really playing these two teams again? Seems like we have already played them 6 times each.
Lol funny thing is that it also seems like we always get embarrassed against them.
Start Calderon. Free Cedi. Use Rose as a wild card to be played if the first two are struggling.
Tonight in the Nets pick: 76ers at Nets (b2b) Lakers at Magic (b2b) Hornets at Hawks Memphis at Indy Bulls at Blazers Mavs at Suns Go 76ers. I think we as Cavs fans have to accept that we don’t have a chance in hell this year. Our only shots are: 1) Convince Gilbert that once Bron leaves, the value of the team plummets, so sell now. 2) Hope the Nets struggle down the stretch and we land a top 5 pick (Doncic, Ayton, Young, Bagley, Bamba) & that entices Bron. 3) We cut bait with the dead weight (Rose, IT,… Read more »
I believe Comic Sans Dan is telling Lue when to play IT. I have no proof to back up this claim, but I just believe it t be true.
Well Gilbert has a history of passing notes on whom to play to a coach during game time . I don’t believe a leopard suddenly changed its spots.
I pretty much despise IT. I’ve never been a fan, but thought he may endear the fan base, like he had in Boston. I hate his cheap James Harden flailing. If Harden is the Golden Turd, IT is the silver diarrhea.
One ray of light, the Dubs lost by 30 in Utah last night. One difference: Kerr ripped them, calling the display disgusting.
When we lose tonight, we will be in 4th. Rockets later this week is a loss.
We have a 6 game lead on Detroit, who are in 9th. I will be counting it down. Join me.
Such a sad countdown.
The numbers in Mike Zavagno’s tweet work out to an IT-based swing of more than 60 points in team net ratings last night: The Cavs had a net rating of -27.4 with IT, and +34.9 without him. That massive a difference is somewhere between rare and historic.
Gilbert, Lue, & IT should all go.
you forgot JR
you NAILED IT nate—-(again apologize for inappropriate nickname for IT last night —FRUSTRATIONS BOILING OVER )—yes LeBron does NOT want to play with IT ( WHAT HAPPENED TO THE EXCITEMENT OF LEBRON / IT VIDEO PLAY )—oh well — cavs need to move on from the KY trade ( yes probably the worst trade ever by this franchise–even worse that stepien days –may set this franchise back—only hope is that nets pick )—think gilbert may have given the directive to play IT—just to “piss LeBron off ??—-sorry for klove ( but he may actually enjoy being away from this drama… Read more »
The question I would like to ask is if its all on Dan wanting IT to play, specially after him sitting in the 4th quarter last game?
Did Dan make Lue play IT in the 4th and is that why LeBron’s mood went to the dump?
The Blame IT recap…saw JR not cover guys 5x from coast to coast for easy layups. Saw Tristan get ABUSED by Drummond beyond repair. Saw multiple Cavs slow on rotations and getting abused by dribble penetration of the likes of a guy named ISH Smith (who the Eff is that?). Saw Lebron give up 9 straight points one-one when game was 106-104 and in between chuck up horrible threes with no intention of rebounding or hustle. But yes, just blame one guy. I wasn’t that excited by the two game win streak because the problems still festered for this team.… Read more »
I agree with this. There are defensive holes, and bad play, all over the court by the Cavs. But you have to be able to call out THE WORST +/- player in the game (IT, -25) and assign some level of responsibility. Having a negative player on the court THAT BAD seeps into everyone’s else’s play. It makes it more difficult to focus on your defensive assignment when you KNOW ahead of time that IT is going to be beaten and you are going to have to try to step in. It puts everybody out there in a very Lebronish… Read more »
The blame is totally deserved. Cavs made their best run after IT sat down in the first quarter, and when he was out at the start of the fourth. As Nate stated, the Cavs were only down 3 when IT came back in the 4th quarter, and the Pistons went on a 16-5 run. And it indeed was very apparent LeBron’s mojo went south went IT came back. Certainly other players had bad games, but simply put, the Cavs can’t win with Thomas as the starting point guard and particularly in crunch time. It won’t happen, but I would love… Read more »
The has happened two games in a row btw. Like, CLEAR difference in play. It’s black and white and easy to see on the court.
We’ve blamed everyone here from Lebron to Dan Gilbert’s penchant for guys below 6ft and everything, everyone in between fyi.
I tend to agree. IT was bad last night. Especially right at the start.
Guess what? Get used to it. As long as the black hole Scourge of the Fourth is on this team… he will be the focal point of this trainwreck.
Great recap Nate. You captured it more objectively than I would have…
Cavs must be pushing HARD to trade Shump (another DNP). I’m sure they don’t want Mr. Glass to get injured before they can dump him on some poor team. Would have at least liked to see him or DRose come in during the 4th to give Wade a quick breather over playing IT. I was seriously asking myself watching the game, “Can Isiah even dribble the ball??” Like for real, can he dribble? Maybe he needs to be added to the Shumpert website: http://www.pleasestopdribblingITandShump.com
I know IT is part of the problem but you guys made look like if the Cavs remove him then all their problems will be fixed. To me Lue’s rotation and coaching decisions are more worse than IT’s issues. My honest opinion.
The thing is, imo, most of us would rather have Lue, who have proven he can help deliver a title, unlike an entitled guy who hasn’t proven anything yet in our organization and calls everything that isn’t on his agenda disrespectful.
Lue is still average at his best. Firing Lue would cause a bigger shock on the stability of the team than a guy who just played 20 games or so..
Cut him. Just straight up cut the dude.
He has always been this.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/29/kawakami-my-2017-nba-no-defense-team-starring-isaiah-thomas-andrew-wiggins-and-many-more/amp/
Didn’t see the game, glad I didn’t. Sucks for Love. Lue and Dan are both idiots. We are screwed.
Summed up the awful night perfectly, thanks Nate.
I didn’t smile after the game until I saw this:
https://twitter.com/talkhoops/status/958594488133447686
This is absolute genius!
THANK YOU FOR THIS
That is good!
This was a well restrained recap Nate…and good on you to remind us that though we are frustrated beyond belief to be fans of this mind-bending dumpster fire of poor decisions…and good lord i didn’t see Drummond’s box score til the end of this article he was a monster…at least Lebron is still a cavalier tomorrow. Cuz unless major changes occur before February 8, 2018, we are possibly looking at Isaiah Thomas being the highest paid player on a very different looking cavalier team.
Love Cohen’s songs in ‘McCabe and Mrs. Miller’. I expect we’re going to see loads of IT the rest of the season. I think it was running jumper in the live thread who said that IT will average 25 ppg if they give him the ball all the time, and the Cavs will miss the playoffs. That is dead-on accurate. IT is Bill Simmons’ most classic ‘good stats on a bad team’ guy, although I’m sure Simmons would have denied that last year, and maintained Kyrie was that guy. Of course, Bill this season has called Kyrie a top 8… Read more »