Preseason Recap: Cleveland 120, Buenos Aires San Lorenzo 89 (or Rookie Magic)
2019-10-07This was a fun tune up for Cleveland as the Cavs took on a Buenos Aires team that featured two guys that might be able to man the end of a bench in the NBA. Still, the Cuervos brought some grit to start the contest and won the first quarter 24-21. It was fun to just see the Cavs take the floor again and see the schemes and mindset employed by coach Beilein. After the lackluster first, in which the offense struggled to get their bearings, Tristan Thompson and the Cavs exploded for a 43 point second period and never looked back. All in all, it was a great debut for two rookie players and a rookie coach. Let’s break down some individual performances.
John Beilein looked engaged and more than once expressed his frustration with missed defensive assignments, especially at the three point line. He showed more animation in one preseason game than Cavs coaches have shown in the last several regular seasons combined. Coach showed a willingness to engage players and bark at guys when they screwed up. Offensively, the Cavs run a lot of dribble handoffs and cuts from the elbow to wing and the wing to the post. This led to a lot of back door cuts. Larry Nance Jr. had four dunks alone this game, and anytime the Cuervos overplayed the passing lane, Cleveland tried to burn them.
Tristan Thompson scored 8 and grabbed three boards while going +14 from the floor in less than seven minutes in the second. He relished his mano-a-mano battle with Cuervos big man, Esteban Bautista, whose name roughly translates to, “Brick wall with frosted tips.” TT was wheeling as the roll man on the p/r, taking it Bautista when he cleared out the post, and thumping dunks when the defense sagged off him. Thompson’s touch looked decent, his hook even more refined than last year, and his footwork solid. TT was ready to compete. He should be. It’s a contract year. After 14 and 10 and + 28 on the night, it will be interesting to see what he does against real competition. Let’s hope he doesn’t continue his penchant for early top of the key three-balls. The two he took were clankers.
If anyone looks to be the beneficiary of his new role in the offense, it’s Larry Nance Jr. No 22 played almost exclusively at the four, and consistently outplayed the less athletic Cuervo bigs. Nance canned 15 on several dunks on lobs, putbacks, and backdoor cuts while also draining a triple and going 4-4 at the line. He did a nice job putting the ball on the floor against poorly balanced closeouts and got a couple dimes for his trouble. Nance was his normal effusive self in the postgame comments.
https://youtu.be/v7TJQPesQ7U
One of Junior’s dunks came on a sweet back door feed from Jordan Clarkson who relished his role as the “Wolf” in Beilein’s offense. Clarkson led the Cavs with 17 points on (3-7 downtown) 11 shots in 20 minutes, but also looked decent defensively with three steals, a couple dimes, and no turnovers. To be fair, the Cavs’ offense was absolutely bogging down at times early, and JC rescued more than one possession with his premium brand of shot-taking which, tonight, featured a decent amount of shot-making.
Not making shots? Kevin Love who was mainly an afterthought offensively and never got into a rhythm, going 1-5 (0-3 from deep) for two points. He never checked in after the first half, and I’m not going to worry about it, but against the next real competition, the Cavs need to get him some looks. Some of the miscues were timing, as Garland missed him on a wide open cut, and some were just Kevin looking out of rhythm with his three ball and his offense. He also looked like he needed to hit the weight room. Still, Kev grabbed some boards, dished some dimes, and had a couple nice defensive plays on the way to +13 in 14 minutes.
Another guy with a solid floor game, Cedi Osman, led the team in dimes and steals with five a piece while scoring 12. He just missed on a couple drives, but played competently throughout. Cedi had some nice chemistry with the Cavs’ Starting guards and did a good job slashing on secondary cuts. If he can go better than 1-4 from deep, he’s a weapon. He also had a hustle chasedown block at the beginning of the fourth, which was nice to see.
Surprise starter, Brandon Knight is supposedly one of the stories of training camp now that he’s “finally healthy.” Once again, this newfound health seems to coincide with a contract year. Still, Knight offered a competent, if ho-hum presence from one starting guard spot as he scored a triple and added a couple of assists in 15 minutes.
The other starting guard, Collin Sexton, seemed a little stymied by the competition early, and still struggles with a change of direction to keep opposing guards off their toes. He’s going to have to learn to run and trust the offense, but his J is still locked in as he added a couple treys and a pull-up 20 footer to save a possession. It was hard to tell anything on defense against this squad, but the Cuervos certainly relished punishing Sexton in the post on switches and with their bigger guards. It’s going to be a trend all year.
The real stories of this exhibition were the poise and swagger of Darius Garland and the tantalizing potential of Kevin Porter Junior. Coming off the bench, Garland looked completely in control of the ball at all times, finished the game +21 in 14 minutes, and went a perfect 4-4 from the field to go along with two assists. Check out the back door bounce pass (below) to Love for Kev’s only field goal. Yes, Garland played a little too fast a couple times which led to turnovers, and he doesn’t quite have the timing down with the starters, but you’ll live with dead ball turnovers due to being aggressive. Garland’s finishing and passing ability impressed me more than anything, as did his herky-jerky style. He also looked bigger than I thought he would, and like he’s put on some muscle in the off-season. Oh, and his shot is butter.
https://youtu.be/OFnWkVgsLBQ?t=30
Did I mention muscle? Well Kevin Porter Junior has more muscle than some NBA power forwards, and he plays like it too. Porter was way too much for any of the San Lorenzo wings to handle inside, and he has a knack for getting to the paint and finishing through contact, and contorting his body while finishing with touch. Porter does what Chuck Barkley always talks about, “he gets easy buckets.” KPJ was 7-9 to finish with 16 points. Yeah he had three turnovers, and yeah he had four fouls in 14 minutes, but you can tell why the Cavs took a chance on him, and why he makes the vets smile. He’s raw, but he’s got plenty of potential. He’s gonna be a terror in transition.
https://youtu.be/eM3xdi1mghE?t=28
Rounding it out, Matthew Dellavedova looked rough, with only a couple lobs and a seeing-eye three-ball to his credit, but a pick-up style game isn’t really Delly’s forte. Yeah, he went -5, but he also keeps defenses honest with his ability to throw the lob and not overplay the perimeter. I’m not worried about pre-season.
As for the bench bunch, Duke’s Marquis Bolden was solid. Bolden, who seems to have pushed Ante Zizic (DNP) out of any type of rotation, finished with five points, four boards, and two nice blocks, and seems to have some defensive ability and knows what he can’t do on offense. Jarrell Marten shot a comical 1-6 including blowing a wide open layup, and seems destined for a non-premium overseas league. Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot got himself to the line a couple times and lived up to his reputation as a not completely incompetent 10th man as he finished with 5 and +5.
Sindarius Thornwell played a lot of crazy defense to go +10 in his 6 minutes, but he’s going to have to play a lot of it all the time to make this team. He doesn’t have the offensive upside a David Nwaba (say what you want about his shooting, but you were toast if Nwaba got you on his left hip going to the hoop). Daniel Hamilton traveled more times than Giannis does on a jump stop spin move, and Dean Wade canned a triple and punctuated the win with a monster jam with 30 seconds left. Wade should provide some fun in Canton as he plays on his 2-way deal this year.
The Cuervos were led by Esteban Bautista who I would enjoy the crap out of if I followed Argentinian ball. The dude is 90% chest with massive feet, and is as strong as an ox. Fortunately, as AC said though, “he can’t elevate.” It was fun watching him and TT go at it. Bautista scored 20 on 12 shots and grabbed 5 rebounds. Esteban also showed how the Cavs are absolutely going to struggle to guard the post against real centers this year (especially considering the Cuervos other starting center, Facundo Pinero, had 16). And yep, that’s right, I got a Bautista highlight reel.
Oh, and can we all agree that “Los Cuervos” is the greatest nickname in sports? The tie-ins are unlimited. Anyway, Wyoming’s Justin Williams added 11 boards and three blocks while DePaul’s Dar Tucker journeymanned his way to 17 points worth of slasher buckets. I respect the crap out of any player who will go anywhere to play pro ball, especially with a team whose name is that cool. Keep living the dream, guys.
Well, tomorrow we get the Wine and Gold scrimmage, but the bloom is off the rose a little since this game spoiled the debut. Ironically, it will be nice to see the Cavs play against real competition and not be going up against the Browns for eyeballs. Until then…
WOW AS A DISTANCE RUNNER / COACH—KIPCHOGE BREAKING THE 2 HR MARATHON BARRIER / TIME IS AMAZING !!!!—-CONGRATS !!!1
That is like an average of 4:40 minutes per mile for 26 miles. That is like 15 seconds faster than the fastest I have ever run a mile. I can’t fathom this.
Watched the highlights of the first game, and the first half Friday night against the Pistons. Gotta say, I’m really impressed with Garland. We know he can fill the hoop, I have zero doubt he’ll continue that in the NBA. He looks so composed, for the most part, aside from the shot. He knows where teammates are, and can get the ball to them. Agree with Nate that he looks bigger on the court than I expected. If he stays healthy I think he has a bright future. I like what I see from the offense so far, too. I… Read more »
So while I firmly stand by my belief that C:tB is the best Cavs discourse available, but my ego pushes me to point out this litte plug I got from my comments on King James Gospel:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kingjamesgospel.com/2019/10/10/cleveland-cavaliers-top-three-driving-threats-2019-20/amp/
Thanks to any who humor me.
(My name is Ryan Yankee for those who don’t know)
Garland looks fantastic… team high +13 plus/minus and that figure meets the eyeball test. Brandon Knight looks good too. Glad Sexton’s shooting is locked in, but he really needs to embrace a role as a shooting guard, he’s not a point guard at this point in his young career. Love, TT, and Nance looked good but size will always be a problem for that trio. Clarkson looks good. KPJ looks raw, but love the upside. Can’t wait until Windler gets healthy. Agree with Jude and TTM… this team is going to be more fun to watch, will have growing pains… Read more »
Garland has been encouraging. Sexton seems like the Sexton of the second half of last year. Scorer but not much else. KpJ has a ways. Knight has been surprising. They’re going to lose a lot. But hopefully we see major progress by the young guns. Beinlein actually encourages me the most, surprisingly.
Disagree on two of your points before on KPJ… that was a bad pass from Sexton on the fast break. I also have no problem with the off the dribble three… that’s his shot, he can make those. Agree on the bad defensive play, gotta stay between man and basket, but that’ll come with experience. Not discouraged about him, just needs use the help of the system to get him good looks.
He can make those, but not at a percentage I would want him shooting them. It is probably the most difficult shot on bball. Definitely not something he should be trying yet. He isn’t Steph or Harden, or Lillard. Needs to learn to play within the offense and get consistent before going to pull-up threes. I want him to stay as far away from JC tendencies as possible. I liked how he cut and finished the first game. Don’t want him getting into the pull-up game yet. Think he can catch and shoot ok. No reason to bite off more… Read more »
he made 42% on 3s taking a lot of those type of off the dribble shots, he certainly wasn’t a spot up shooter in college… it’s his shot and I want him having confidence taking those. The biggest reason he missed that particular one IMO was because he hesitated because he’s thinking too much. He missed a driving crease in the defense and by the time he saw the lane, it disappeared. His pull up game is literally one of the best things about his game, trying to take that away from him is foolish IMO given how good he… Read more »
He actually missed plenty in college. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=70wbURj044E 28% on is inside the arc, which were basically all pullups. He isn’t Kyrie. Not yet. Nowhere near. He is not consistent on pullups, and he likely is still better standing still. Just because he can hit them, doesn’t mean he was or is efficient in pullups. He hit spotups in college which likely contributed to his efficiency (on low volume with reduced range in the college 3). He hit one last game. He is by no means a knockdown shooter from pullup. Wasn’t in college. Would rather see him work on cutting,… Read more »
Basically you don’t draft a guy like that to encourage him to be the same player. You draft him because he has shown flashes of doing difficult things, but to mold him into a guy that can be more than a Gunner and who can use his skills to take better, easier, and more efficient shots. His pull-up game will still be there. But it isn’t necessarily what you want to encourage as his primary option.
Nowhere did I say pullup- jumpers should be his “primary option.” Also, we’re talking about one pull up three pointer, not a two pointer. Thirdly, the video itself clearly says it’s one of his shots that he makes, which was my point. Secondarily, my point is that if it’s his shot, then I want him to take it. But you’re clearly misunderstanding what I’m saying if you think I said that it should be his “primary option.” Nowhere did I say that. Yes, attenuating bad shots and taking more good shots is what growth is about, but his potential is… Read more »
I don’t know if he makes it routinely as far as a shot that is truly efficient. Video has no stats on pullup threes. Neither does bball ref. We don’t know how much his 41% was based on pullups versus spot up. He only took three a game. He may have had a significant portion of his 1.3 makes as spot ups. Don’t have those numbers. A bad shot is a bad shot save for a very few individuals. I don’t think he is one of them…..yet. At this point in his career I think it does him much much… Read more »
Let me put it this way, if the Cavs drafted KPJ without thinking that pull-ups are a key part of his game, then they’re a bunch of idiots… because the tape speaks for itself. I am NOT saying it’s all of his game, or that it should be the biggest part of his game… what I’m saying it is a PART of who he is as a basketball player and to tell him to eliminate it would take away who he is as a player:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4OxJd279ms&t=476s
Who he is as a bball player was not very effective from a team bball stand point as far as winning contributions in college. He has raw talent and skills, but didn’t use them very efficiently. You don’t eliminate. You just temper it and use it in the correct situations, which at this point aren’t very many for him. He could have been much more effective and efficient in college by going to the hoop off most of those dribble moves and could have much of the time.
And for video evidence of his game showing how the pull up shot is part of what makes him a great prospect, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4OxJd279ms&t=492s
Very much agree about Beilein, loved the hire, not sure why anyone would be down about it especially with such a young team.
They played really well in the 1st half against a playoff team, granted no Griffin, but I’ll still take it.
I reserved judgement about Beilein simply because I am thoroughly ignorant about college ball. I’m glad (and lucky) I did. He seems to be moldimg this team into something that will be a lot more fun to watch this year. I just hope the team keeps buying in more and more to what he seems to be developing.
In other news, Zion is surprisingly (sarcasm) stronger and much more athletic than every other nba player. Seems like a mini-shaq who can dribble, pass and beat everyone off the perimeter (thru ridiculous first step and/or people bouncing off him), bully people down low, and hit an occasional conceded wide wide open three.
Cedi still looks really limited offensively, unfortunately. Not sure the consistent shooting, finishing, or beating guys off the dribble will ever be there. Sexton scored as he has, but was much the same. KPJ raw. Can’t say much about Garland in such limited time. Tt was solid. Delly’s new form doesn’t seem to be doing much. The movement off ball was nice in the first half. Like some of the actions Beinlein runs.
This isn’t supposed to be negative. Just what I saw in one preseason game. Grain of salt.
One thing about Cedi…I agree his shot wasn’t falling again today, but I’ve noticed the team hasn’t been going to him as much as I hoped. Pethsps he hasn’t been getting himself into good enough positions but I just feel like the offense at times forgets to use him and it is one thing that leads to stagnant scoring stretches.
So it’s preseason and I don’t want to predict wins, but this team looks like it could have a pretty entertaining year.
They’re going to be very entertaining and lose the proper number of games without really tanking. Best-ish of both worlds
KPJ with another not so great step back. One thing with clock running down. But another with double digits going into move. Made a dunk with a wide open lane. He also looks way raw (Sextonish) on d.
He looks raw, and plays kinda dumb. But he has some pretty easily identifiable skills. His finishing has been great, and he has a really good feel for cuts.
Raw and decision making are the big hurdles he faces over the next few years. I like him as a prospect. Has a ways to go in similar ways to Sexton.
And I think Sexton has been pretty good on D, especially fighting through picks. His size will always be an issue (see Kennard hitting a couple Js in his grill), but he’s a perpetual motion machine.
Sexton has gotten behind some people tonight, but I meant last year.
This is a pretty intense preseason game!
Sexton still money from spot up threes.
Gotta run, but encouraging first half. Go Cavs!
I fully expect Zion to shoot a respectable percentage on 1-2 3pa a game just based on the amount of space he will have to shoot them. The hack a Zion will likely be a thing anywhere inside the paint though.
Tons of turnovers and fouls for both teams… also, Cavs getting a little sloppy to close the half.
Been a little sloppy the whole game. But I don’t expect that to change much in the early season. Lot’s of learning to be done.
KNIGHT FANTASTIC HESITATION MOVE AND1!!!
NANCE WITH THE DRIVE AND FINISH!
BEAUTIFUL OFFENSE!!! TT WITH THE EASY HOOK SHOT!
Garland should start over Sexton IMO. The difference on the offensive end is startling in terms of offensive flow.
TT GREAT FINISH!
KLOVE too much passing… should’ve taken that open 3. Knight needed to pump fake that.
GARLAND BEAUTIFUL BANK!!!
Is it just me, or does Garland actually look pretty decent on defense?
Dunno if you can tell.much from preseason. Being better than Sexton was as a rookie would be a plus.
Yes and yes. Just noticed several times he’s kept his body in front of guys when it looked like he was about to get beaten.
Kids missed the threes… BOLDEN BLOCK ON DRUMMOND!
Sexton on defense!
Lot’s of good stuff so far. Glad Garland is ok.
Getting a little tired of the whistles though…
Freaking awful…. way too many calls.
KLOVE MJ FADEAWAY!!! 12 point lead!
KLOVE smooth with it!
Porter can create his own offense whenever he wants. Needs to learn how to play in the system though hesitated to read the double pick at the top of the key.
Three bad decisions in a row completely in line with his scouting. Giving up on up court pass. Horrific off dribble three. And matador d. Got him yanked.
OH NO… Garland slipped and twisted his ankle.
Another great pass read Garland, called him for a BS foul.
Knight looks good!
Clarkson doing Clarkson things!!!
Garland needs to touch the ball every possession. Nice pass Clarkson! Knight two in a row!
Lowe ranks Cavs as 29th in watchability this year, but caveats it with this, “If Kevin Porter Jr. sticks in the rotation, this ranking might look foolish.”
Some of us aren’t the only ones excited by KPJ’s talent.
WHAT A PASS GARLAND!!!
Bit sloppy. Martin guy with a steal, turnover, missed layup.
Just tuned in…. some nice passing…. clearly the backdoor cut has been a focus for Beilein with this team.
Cavs moving off ball seemingly a lot more. Appears to be a major focus.
That was a great KLOVE article by Fedor. KLOVE and Sexton bonding was great to hear, and it appears that Sexton’s the type to really humble himself and listen to whatever KLOVE has to offer. Another interesting part of the interview, that I’ve heard in other interviews, is Beilein’s focus on fundamentals. If there’s anything lacking in the NBA right now, it’s that. A lot of positives IMO going into the year: All three rookies are great shooters, I really like the Beilein hire, a KLOVE career renaissance as a top dog again. I really can’t wait to see Beilein’s… Read more »
GOOD ARTICLE -(AMICO HOOPS )–ON HOW KLOVE REALLY LIKES / WANTS TO STAY IN CLEVELAND / HAS EMBRACED THE FANS –CITY——HE IS GREAT FOR THIS YOUNG TEAM / COACH—-DO NOT —REPEAT– DO NOT JUST GIVE THIS GUY AWAY IN A TRADE —IT HAS TO BE A TRADE IN OUR FAVOR TO MAKE THE TRADE
Gotta give us the links NOMAD.
Here ya go https://amicohoops.net/love-says-he-wants-to-remain-with-cavs-i-always-have/
PLAYING IT SAFE -( ON SCRIMMAGE )—ENTERTAINING THE FANS -( YOUNG )—..SEE HOW THEY PERFORM FRIDAY NIGHT
Sounds like the w/g scrimmage was a non event basketball wise: dunks and stuff for the kiddos
Good recap.
Go Pop. Screw China. They are a repressive tyrannical government. If they don’t like being called out for it, stop being it.
I love pop.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27802144/spurs-gregg-popovich-lauds-adam-silver-response-amid-china-rift
Glad to see the young guns having good games, albeit probably not against very good competition. Still, watching KPJ find seams in the d and finish well was encouraging. Also nice to see him hit that wing three with confidence. Nice to see Garland make it into the paint and finish. Shot looks as smooth as advertised. Early but encouraging games from those two guys.
Damn how did I miss this game? Was it on Fox Sports Ohio?
Twas. At 6
Thanks for the recap. I’ll have to catch them this Friday.
Replay is still available of the Fox Sports Go app. At least it was as of a couple hours ago.
Missed this one. Glad to see Garland’s stroke is as promised. Knight started but I’ll be curious to see if Beilein goes to a Garland and Sexton back court with Cedi at the three. It’s a bit scary to think about the defensive end of things but who knows. Maybe actually having a coach who cares about what they look like on the defensive end will be beneficial. No more Longardi, after all. While I don’t subscribe to benching Sexton, I don’t mind seeing him get some run at the 2 as a scoring guard. I hope he’s added something… Read more »
https://twitter.com/KStateMBB/status/1181409972485267456?s=19
‘ BOLDEN SEEMS TO HAVE PUSHED ANTE OUT OF ANY ROTATION “—??????——-GOOD TO HAVE AN ANIMATED COACH ON THE BENCH WHO ISN’T AFRAID TO GET AFTER PLAYERS / HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE / HAS BEEN LACKING THE LAST FEW YEARS ——-ON A DIFFERENT SUBJECT/ SHOULD THERE BE CONCERNS WITH BAKER / HAVE DEFENSES HAD THE OFF SEASON TO PREPARE FOR HIM
Oh, I guess Zizic and Henson were held out for injuries:
https://twitter.com/SpinDavies/status/1181299606770069505
(Continuing) Cedi showed a good presence of mind this game and I loved the first play with Love finding him for a great cut to the basket. Overall Cedi showed the continued potential for doing a lot of things well while rounding out his stat sheet. If he gets his three point shot dialed in like it was in the second halfs of games last year (he shot aboved 40% from 3’s he took in the 3rd and 4th quarters last year) he absolutely has the chance to make another good leap this year. And his chasedown block? Yeah, I… Read more »
Great recap Nate. A couple of my thoughts: I was also a little surprised to see Knight as a starter, but after some thought I think that was about Brileon’s claim of msking guys “earn” their spots. Not that Knight necessarily earned it (yet), but going with last season’s starters seemed like a way of kicking the can down the field and defering that decision until later in the preseason. By not changing anything one can say he’s still deciding so that this starting lineup was the equivalent of starting no one. Glad to see Sexton looking a little bigger… Read more »
Darius Garland had himself a game as well… dude can pass, finish, and shoot. The back door to KLOVE was a thing of beauty, and hitting an open Cedi for 3 was smart basketball. Also, any open jump shot anywhere in the half court is a good shot for Garland, his j is that pure. Also he’s a natural playmaker… loved how he created space by changing speeds on his drive as well as his alley oop to TT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFnWkVgsLBQ&feature=youtu.be