Recap: Pacers 102, Cavs 95 (or, You’ll Float Too!)
2019-11-02Halloween might have been yesterday, but what happened to Darius Garland (or his shot anyway) tonight was a downright scary sight. On the surface, this was a mostly fun and fairly hard-fought loss by the still-learning-how-to-play-together Cavaliers in a place where they’ve consistently struggled even in the best of seasons. Losing by single digits to the likely playoff-bound Indiana Pacers, even without Victor Oladipo and Myles Turner, on the road while still making it a contest for the majority of 48 minutes is still a pretty good outcome for this fledgling team.
They overcame a foul-plagued, back-to-earth performance by Tristan Thompson, a deluge of careless turnovers, a sub 37% shooting night as a team, and even a brief and rusty return of Brandon Knight to stay afloat enough to keep from being blown out. Yet it’s hard to win any game that features a horrific 11 point quarter, or a frightful 0-10 showing from your first round draft pick.
It wasn’t the goose egg itself that was most troubling about Garland’s performance… it was how he got there. I’m not sure I’d be all that concerned or annoyed if most (or all) of the attempts were from beyond the arc, especially given the range we’ve seen thus far out of the rookie shooter. Yet, only two of the misfires were of the deep variety. Instead, he was hoisting up aimless, midrange balloon-like floaters with all the trepidation of a kid trying to get his paper boat back from a scary clown in a sewer.
At least John Beilein showed enough mercy to keep him off the court during crunch time in favor of the suddenly quasi-effective Jordan Clarkson. After just 26 soul sucking minutes, all that was missing from the sad, shell-shocked kid at the end of the bench was a yellow raincoat. I tried really hard not to start calling him “Georgie,” but with each successive floater, I could see his confidence flowing away like water down a storm drain.
Other Cavs fared better, at least to start the game, and for the balance of the second half. They jumped out to a 26-17 lead in the first quarter behind the hot shooting of Kevin Love, Cedi Osman and Collin Sexton. The energy level seemed to be a holdover from Wednesday night’s game against the Bulls, as the Cavs were aggressive defenders and willing passers to find open shots. Yet, even as the first 12 minutes waned, the Pacers began to turn the screws defensively. In fact, after Cedi buried a triple with just under three minutes left in the period, Cleveland didn’t score again, and turned the ball over four times.
As brutal as the end of the first was, however, the second quarter is where the Cavs really lost this game. Outside of a couple of Clarkson buckets, the bench could seem to do nothing right. It was a rough outing for Kevin Porter Jr. after a few promising performances, as he posted a team worst -16 and often looked lost. Knight finally saw the court this season with Matthew Dellavedova away for personal reasons, and probably showed why he’s been nailed to the bench. He was 0-3 and -10 in just six minutes of hinge-squeaking action. Also, anyone who believes the Larry Nance Jr. stretch four experiment should continue needs to rewatch this painful quarter as Exhibit A for why it should not. Capping it off were at least three of the red balloon floaters from Georgie Garland.
Though the Cavs only trailed 42-37 at the half, it was clear that every point scored was going to matter in this battle of attrition with Indiana. In truth, Cleveland was only outscored by two in the second half by the Pacers… primarily because #0 seemed determined to answer the adult contemporary rock question posed by the Brothers Gibb (“How Deep Is Your Love?”), by shooting closer and closer to the logo with each successive heave.
Love so deep. ❤
📺 #CavsPacers on @FOXSportsCLE pic.twitter.com/2Gy4VguUnz
— Cleveland Cavaliers (@cavs) November 2, 2019
The big man almost had his fifth straight double double to start the season by the end of the second quarter, and wound up with a 22 point/17 rebound/4 assist line. Yet his long outlet passes were intercepted almost as often as Baker Mayfield’s have been lately, as he also led the team with six giveaways.
To be fair, the Cavs’ interior defense struggled when Tristan Thompson was out of the game… and, that was more often than Coach Beilein probably would have preferred given the big man’s foul trouble. TT got hit with a couple of ticky-tack calls, so he couldn’t be quite as aggressive as usual. Yet, he has struggled with Domanatas Sabonis in the past, and though the Pacers were without Turner in the middle, they got good mileage out of rookie big Goga Bitadze who had 10 points, nine boards and four rejections.
Despite Georgie’s Garland’s floating nightmare, his back court mate Sexton, and his replacement Clarkson helped shoot the Cavs back into the game in the second half. Though neither shot incredibly well from distance (combined 3-11), they each broke the 20 barrier with some fearless drives and timely jumpers.
Step back, baby. 🔥 #BeTheFight pic.twitter.com/DXSdusvqWA
— Cleveland Cavaliers (@cavs) November 2, 2019
.@JordanClarksons staying on the attack.#CavsPacers | #BeTheFight pic.twitter.com/XowLQRuIez
— Bally Sports Cleveland (@BallySportsCLE) November 2, 2019
There were still rough patches defensively, and Clarkson missed a triple in the final minute that would have cut Indy’s lead to three, but both showed consistent effort. They were particularly effective in the full-court press defense that Beilein chose to employ during the final 90 seconds, which begs the question of why not use it here and there throughout the game in the future?
After a hot first quarter, Osman wasn’t quite the reincarnation of Kyle Korver he resembled Wednesday night. Part of this seemed to be fewer opportunities, but also give credit to the Pacer defense which seemed to close out on him much more quickly than the Bulls did, forcing Cedi to put the ball on the floor and drive more often. In fact, the Pacers were pretty dogged in their attack of the passing lanes from the second quarter on, to prevent the Cavs from sharing the ball as freely and enticing them to make ball-handling mistakes. And, well, the Cavs complied with 16 turnovers.
Lessons And Observations
In lieu of an Evil and Genius section tonight, here are a few general takeaways given how experimental this team still is on a night to night basis:
The Cavs need to do a better job of finding and feeding the hot hand. They did this a bit with Love in the third quarter, but they could have done more to get Cedi involved, or run more plays to get Sexton, Love and Clarkson open looks in crunch time.
The defense never gave up, but also suffered when Thompson got saddled with foul trouble. Too often, the perimeter D is flimsy at best, putting undue strain on the bigs patrolling the paint. The Pacers aren’t a prolific three point shooting team, but the Cavs still struggled in letting guys run at the rim all night. The intensity is there, but it’s tough to get consistent stops when it matters with only one wing and a prayer.
As noted above… John Beilein needs to put a merciful end to the LNJ stretch four experiment. Let’s get Larry back to doing what he does best… running the bench offense from the post, crashing the boards and cutting to the hoop on PNR action.
Speed is great, but speed can also kill… possessions that is. There were plenty of opportunities for the Cavs to run in this one, but often they’d get tripped up in their haste by being careless with the basketball. Indiana is a veteran, handsy team defensively, which knows how to strip guys who are trying to do too much with the ball.
Lastly, Coach B needs to have a heart to heart with his rookie guard about his shot selection. As mentioned, it’s one thing to take an oh-fer when you’re just missing good shots that you usually take. It’s quite another to do so when heaving up tentative, ill-advised shots that are not really a part of your skill set. True, sometimes floaters and drives can build confidence if one’s outside shot is not falling… but that’s not Garland’s game at the moment. On the semi-bright side, Darius did have a couple of really nice dimes early on before his confidence completely eroded. The Cavs could use a steady distributor of the rock, even on nights when his shot isn’t falling.
But, just remember Georgie… if you clown around with floaters… you’ll float too…
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i’ am right there with you NOMAD.. the torture was related to my “hope” brain cells.. they were fried on a skillet.. like the commercial, except mine was like this.. “this is your brain.. this is your brain on Cleveland sports”.. sizzle.. pop.. splatter.. a lot of our brothers and sisters are currently suffering this fate as we converse, down where the old municipal stadium was located.. you know, where “ache-r” “can’t”-field is pretending.. i am fine.. enjoy conversing with this group of folks.. i am concerned about your health and well-being.. :)
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glad u got high hopes for “O-for”.. i am, sadly (or luckily, depending on your perspective) neurologically unable to hope.. those brain cells died a tortured, horrible death many, many years ago..
we are stuck with “O-for” and “ache-r”.. Ache-r “”can’t”-field.. with the ridiculously absurdly low QBR of 39 (ranked 27th).. which i personally find hilarious..
Never trust in the Browns. There is talent. But too much hype. Mayfield isn’t exactly an elite qb. Needs a lot of help from O line, play calling, and receivers. League scouted him and figured out his tendencies. Not a great decision maker. Not great with ball placement or touch. Not great vision, maybe due to height. Lasers most balls when he could float them a lot if he had touch. Biggest off-season mistakes were the Tretter trade and kitchens as HC. That falls on Dorsey. He found a gem in Chubb. Seibert appears to be a solid kicker, even… Read more »
Referenced this stat in post below…
https://twitter.com/cavsanada/status/1191024131258621959?s=21
Which pretty much means the lineups without Love and TT together are probably like -17 net rating.
An encouraging sign. But remember, we have played Orlando, Chicago, and Indy twice sans Dipo + Lamb/Turner. Aside from at Milwaukee, pretty soft so far.
I expect that number to go down.
Hey Cavs are better than I expected right now. I’ll take it even if it is mostly against bad teams.
Mike Schmitz is saying Lamelo Ball is the most talented player in next year’s draft. Gross. Going to be a sh#@ty draft. Cavs should forgo tanking and just focus on winning and having the good veterans show the young guys good habits. They should still try to trade Clarkson and Knight though.
Also, based on this, I might no longer have any faith in the draftexpress guys depending on what I watch in college this year.
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NOMAD.. when “O-for” lights up the hoop, i will break out the special herb i save for celebrations…
but, NOMAD bro.. be careful you don’t smoke too much hopium.. that stuff is nasty and will toast your brain.. i was a hopium addict for decades (it is very common in our CLE).. it made me what i am today.. a sarcastic misanthropic curmudgeon
Charlotte (3-3) beats the now league worst Dubs (1-5).
And the now 2-4 Nets lose to the Blake-less, Jackson-less Pistons.
A good night.
Hey EG, good to see you, best of luck on your project! I’m also enjoying the last season of Mr. Robot LOL!!! As for the game, valiant effort… lack of ball movement did them in. Beilein and Nance’s comments today were interesting. The 11 point 2nd quarter was the focus along with the Milwaukee tape. Beilein called out Nance for not being more aggressive looking for his shot. One play in particular where Nance’s defender shades over to Love, and Nance doesn’t make them pay for sagging. Nance has to grow his game just as TT has. Also interesting is… Read more »
I only caught the second half, thankfully missing the 11 point second quarter, oof. It was a weird game with TT in foul trouble and an ice cold Garland completely out of his game. It’s the kind of thing you can only learn from experience, Garland is the likely future of this team along with Sexton and KPJ. KLove and TT are the leaders on the team, they should both ( especially Kevin) be demanding the ball and if they’re not getting their touches then the youngsters should get an earful. To me that’s on the vets not the rookies.… Read more »
The problem is the roster has no small forwards. Cedi was the worst defender on the court last night. But they kept it close against a tough Pacers team. The starters are good (outside of Osman)and Clarkson and Nance are fine off the bench but their backup point guards outside of Knight are bad.
IMO Beilein is doing it exactly correct. If you want to develop Garland and Sexton you have to play them together and let them figure it out.
Considering I was expecting less than 20 wins, I’m happy with how everything has gone.
Garland is not good. I am a Garland supporter, but he is not good right now and will not be for some time. Sexton is a sieve and still inefficient in general. He might end up being good, but at best he is below average to average. TS% is terrible. I am not sure throwing a guy who is basically a high schooler into the fire is a good idea. You could always play Garland with a bunch of bench lineups that also include Sexton. The three guard lineups are usually pretty godawful when it includes Sexton/Garland, Clarkson, and Porter.… Read more »
Knight is fine. At least he’s better than Dellavedova. If you want to develop players you have to play them. You can’t learn how to play from the bench. You need to start Garland and Sexton and see if they can do it. If they can’t then you get to make adjustments. But you need to find out. I love how this blog has taken a stand that Garland sucks 4 games into the season.
I don’t think he sucks but he is a rookie with 5 games of college experience at one of the positions with the steepest learning curve. He is going to be bad right now. And you can learn from the bench. Plenty of all stars have. You don’t need to start year all of year one to have any chance of becoming something special. I don’t know where you get that idea. 20-25 minutes a night is fine for a raw raw rookie. Kawhi didn’t start immediately and only played 25 mpg his rookie year. Same with PG. Lowry didn’t… Read more »
If that was just a bad game from Knight, that’s one thing, but experience leads me to believe even a “good Knight” wouldn’t have been much better.
As to Cedi being the worst defender last night…
What game were you watching? Even if you ignore Cedi’s deflections and steals that would still be an absurd take…but I guess being down on Cedi is your thing (Golden), so I should probably just ignore you about him…
Awesome write up, EG!
On the Chase Down pod, it was brought up that the Cavs starting 5 has a net rating of +12, I believe. This was after last night’s game. That’s with Garland being mostly a negative, and that’s pretty good. It’s the second unit that’s been kind of a mess.
I’m with you, I hate what they’re doing with Nance, it’s just not allowing him to be an effective player.
Hope Windler is back very soon, he should be a nice boost for the second unit.
It has very little to do with Garton, IMO.
Delly & Nance are the only guys who consistently make winning type plays on the second unit (maybe Henson if he gets a shot), and they both struggle to score. Which makes the unit need Clarkson. But it has next to zero outside shooting, which clogs things up for JC.
Windler & a healthy Henson will help.
But with Sexton, Garland, KPJ, and Clarkson, there is going to be a lot of head scratching moments.
This game is exhibit A of why sometimes it is better to make a guy earn his minutes first. In the age of tanking, it does not work that way.
Who knows how it will turn out. But I do not want the kid’sconfidence to get shattered. If you make him show growth before he gets on the court, then these kind of nights will be less frequent AND you have your best players on the court.
I agree. Not of fan of throwing rookies like Garland into the fire. If he had played the whole year and gone through what Barrett and Zion did as freshmen, that would be different. Or if he was an experienced sophomore or upperclassmen, that is different. But he is basically a high schooler. 20 minutes off the bench seems appropriate.
Just jumped on here. I really enjoy your hard work on these recaps. I wish you the best of luck in whatever project you are working on. WE can’t wait until you find your way back to us!
I only watched first half and it seemed like team couldn’t run offense effectively and defense was hit or miss…..think garland has to fire away from 30 feet just to open things up and gain confidence
Good discussion. This team’s guards have a tendency to get away from going to Love for long stretches when he is in. The post entry pass is still an issue for Clarkson, Sexton, Garland, and especially Porter JR. Not sure whether they don’t know how to find the right angles for the entry and/or they are unwilling to give up the ball. Maybe more of the latter. That absolutely needs to be a huge point of emphasis every game and every practice. That and teaching defensive fundamentals and harping on effort to the guards. Porter JR has a bad habit… Read more »
Seriously great recap, eg.
Thanks Nate! It was a fun one to write
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NOMAD wish you were on Twitter, I would Retweet your words with full effect. Amen.
Thanks for the kind words NOMAD! I’ll miss being around regularly, but will check in where I can. Hope it’s a fun season
Did I miss something? EG is leaving us? (Big new creative project, I hope!)
Temporarily going to be very busy for a while. Not gone for good.
Thanks – so it’s a good thing then!