Recap: Lakers 115, Cavs 108 (Or, If It Wasn’t for LeBron…)
2021-01-26The Cavs came to fight last night against the Lakers despite dropping the game 115-108 to go to 8-9 for the season. The Lakers needed a LeBron next level game to get this one. The King dropped 46 points on 19-26 shooting to go with eight rebounds and six assists. He canned 7-11 from 3-land and had 23 in the fourth quarter. James sealed the win after Collin Sexton turned the ball over with 1:21 left, and the Cavs down just five. LeBron found himself on the baseline 22 feet away with Sexton on him. He did two rather polite back down dribbles into Sexton (he could have bulldozed him) and then turned around to shoot over him and a closing out Jarrett Allen. Austin Carr said exactly what anyone watching this game thought about James after that shot:
If it wasn’t for him tonight, the Cavs would win this game.
Anthony Davis had 17 points on 5-16 shooting to go with ten boards. Montrezl Harrell added 15 on an efficient 6-9 from the floor. But Lakers not named LeBron shot just 38% this game. James’ shooting was 40% of their offense. Collin Sexton led the Cavs with 17 points and six assists alongside Andre Drummond who had 25 points and 17 rebounds. Cedi Osman also contributed five 3s on his way to 20 points. Cedi’s 3s were a huge boost to the Cavs who entered the second half down 65-58. The Jedi hit three of his deep balls out of the locker room in the first four minutes of play. He was even leaning in on them in a Korver esque way as the Cavs outscored the Lakers 31-22 in the third. James was play-resting scoring only two points. Cleveland entered the fourth with a two point lead, 89-87.
That lead wasn’t enough, as the King went on to go 9-10 in the final 12 minutes for 21 points looking like a cheat code scoring from wherever he wanted. With 1:50 left in the game Issac Okoro drained a 3 to bring the Cavs within three. It came after Sexton drove and kicked, then got the ball back and repeated the action like a CD skipping, and got the ball back yet again before getting smothered by Anthony Davis after Jarrett Allen set a screen for him. He then tossed it out to Okoro who shot it over James.That was as close as it would get. Cleveland’s defense held relatively strong limiting the Lakers to ten 3s. And, they even out rebounded the just as big guys by four. Cleveland’s offense just wasn’t enough at the end of 48. The Cavs were in this one from their 22 points off of turnovers and overall grind. Also, shout out to Isaac Okoro. He had nine points, four boards, and two steals. He made James work a little bit and for a rookie that’s huge. He was in his face. This was a case of James just being that good at times. This game was a loss, but it didn’t feel like it. If there is anything to be taken away from the past week with the Cavs, it’s that they belong in this league. They aren’t a top tier team by any means, but they are at least nine deep and when Love gets back, they’ll be ten deep. This is no longer the G-Leaguers foray into the NBA group.
Three quick thoughts about the Cavs:
- Respect. The Cavs are starting to get it. After what seemed like a job by the refs all of last season, the games seem to be getting called even. Cleveland is getting the calls that make other teams want to cry collusion. The Lakers had 23 fouls to the Cavs’ 25.
- Did Andre Drummond have a growth spurt late in his high school days? I feel like this would be a story if he did, and I have never heard it, and one quick Google search came up with nothing. He loves to dribble the ball occasionally, which can be maddening, and he plays with too much finesse for being 270 pounds. Sometimes, it works, but I also think this is why he seems gassed. It’s harder playing soft. It requires restraint and that’s tiring, mentally and physically. When he’s laying guys out with his body it just looks so right. He needs to keep doing that as the season goes on, and he will be up for an All-NBA team. He still put up 25/17/1 due to the times he put his head down.
- The 3-pointer is an issue on offense and a boon on defense for Cleveland. Hear me out, the Cavs need to take more 3-pointers. Cleveland ranks 28th in 3s made per game getting just 10.1. They rank 29th in 3s attempted taking just 28.2 a night. Everyone on this team can shoot the ball aside from Drummond and McGee. Lean into that and reap the benefits, J.B. Bickerstaff. Defensively, teams are shooting 38.8% from deep against them (28th) and taking about 34 per game (11th). The Cavs are contesting these shots and teams are getting lucky. The defense this team has put together should hold strong all year as opponent’s 3-point percentage rounds out to the average. The team is sixth in defensive rating after facing two of the best offenses in the Nets and Lakers and giving up 141 points against the Celtics. Damn, it feels good to type that stuff about the defense.
The Cavs take on the Pistons Wednesday.
Nate’s Rebuttal:
First off, I’d argue with your point, David, that this game was called evenly. There were five free throws in the first half that the refs just gave the Lakers: a total flop on a left corner three by Markieff Morris, and then a nothing-but-ball strip by Allen on Davis gave them two more. Kuzma was taking two steps every time before he put the ball on the floor, and then Allen was getting the touchiest of travel calls. Meanwhile, this garbage on a Windler dunk wasn’t even called, let alone reviewed for a flagrant.
Dylan Windler throws subtle shade at refs for not getting foul call after slam on Kyle Kuzma: https://t.co/MXtVnPDfbB
— Cavaliers Nation (@WeAreCavsNation) January 26, 2021
I’m aware that there was supposedly some beef with LeBron getting into it with a a member of the Cavs’ front office who made a comment at the end of the third, but I’d argue that as much of this loss was on JB Bickerstaff.
LeBron said a member of the Cavs front office celebrated his miss at the end of the third. He scored 21 in the fourth.
"He was a little bit too excited about seeing me miss." pic.twitter.com/7gz8poJmRq
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) January 26, 2021
Bickerstaff ran an abysmal lineup with Sexton, Osman, Okoro, McGee, and Drummond in the mid third which led to this sequence.
You simply cannot turn the ball over on three straight possessions because your centers refuse to pass the ball to a guard, decide to bring it up, and then throw it away the rock. Part of this is on the guards who didn’t come get the ball, but JB not taking a timeout to ream his centers out before it happened a third time is ridiculous. As Leo noted on the live thread there was some “Coaching malpractice” by JB. CLF summed it well up in the comments.
Vogel benched Gasol because he was awful and went small and their wings killed us, JB’s big lineup was a joke…
McGee was -12 plus/minus in 13 minutes, and JB played our wings 57 combined minutes even though they were leading the team in plus/minus.
When the Lakers went small in the early fourth, JB stayed big with the Shaqtin a Fool version of Javale McGee who was a team low -12 with two turnovers and long range bricks at the end of the first and third quarters. JB even had the chance to sub Javale out before the end of the third for a better shooter as the Cavs had a baseline out of bounds play after the dribbling ridiculousness at the beginning of this clip. You simply can’t throw four possessions away in 12 minutes by running a big man who thinks he’s a point guard at power forward. Coaching fail.
another tremendous Point JaVale sequence. #JaValeAfterDark pic.twitter.com/lWDlLXfUl2
— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) January 26, 2021
Meanwhile, the starting four this game, Taurean Prince, Played just 26 minutes and was +8 with four dimes and one turnover. Yes, he just had seven points on six shots, but was defending, passing, and not throwing away the ball. Cedi Osman was also +8 with 20 points on 11 shots and was conspicuously absent at times down the stretch. Play your danged wings, JB!
Also, lemme talk about challenges. Bickerstaff failed to challenge two clear phantom fouls in the first half, then challenged a play he was unlikely to win in the second half on a foul by allen. He has to do a better job of keeping points off the board and challenging plays he can win.
Also, he should’ve been getting the ball out of LeBron’s hands late. Bickerstaff seemed to be going off a coaching handbook from two or three years ago when you could just live with James beating you over the top. You can’t anymore. On a pivotal possession with 1:34 left in the game, after Okoro had just hit a clutch triple to cut the Laker lead to 110-107, Okoro went under a ball screen on the right wing and James calmly buried the three. At that point James was 6-10 from downtown. You can’t go under when he’s this hot. You have to get the ball out of his hands and make anyone else beat you. A play later after Sexton turned it over (he’s got to stop doing that in crunch time), James got him iso-d on the left baseline. No double. Turnaround. Game over.
Other culprits this game: Sexton ignoring a wide open Windler, who looked very good in 17 minutes, but somehow only got two shots. As David noted, the Cavs have to get more three point looks for their three point shooters. There’s no excuse for only shooting 21 threes when you’re hitting 43% of these. Windler and Garland played a combined 46 minutes and shot zero threes between the two of them while Javale was 0-2 from deep (yes, I realize his foot was on the line for one of them). That’s unconscionably bad strategy and execution.
Also, can we talk about JB’s out-of-bounds plays? They’re terrible. The Cavs are having problems getting the ball in and getting any kind of look on OOB plays, especially on the baseline every single game (Javale’s end of third quarter heave being an example). It needs to be a point of emphasis.
Final issue was not necessarily JB’s fault: four and five point swings. Cavs would miss bunnies and the Lakers would race down to the other end and get a bucket. I counted three missed layups that led to 12 points worth of swing. There were probably more. That’s bad floor balance.
Sunday’s egg salad sandwich not withstanding Bickerstaff’s doing a great job of getting his team prepared to play, but missing the same kinds of little details he’s asking his team to execute on. In terms of coaching the game in front of him, it was the worst we’ve seen from him. His mistakes stood out. JB’s post game complaints about the refs were valid but seemed to be a dangerous kind of excuse making. You can’t make this many mistakes against the world champs and expect to win.
Winnable game tonight. Hopefully the Cavs show up.
Just got a tip on another plus/minus metric, EPM… supposedly includes tracking data. Some interesting tidbits:
Nance, Drummond, Sexton top 100.
Tauren Prince and Cedi Osman top 150(!!!).
Windler @ #164(!!!)
McGee @ #171
Garland #264
Dean Wade @ #298
Lamar Stevens and Okoro just outside 350.
Dotson @ #258
Tracking data is useful and I suspect the final frontier in analytics. Shows what actual individuals are doing within the team scheme. Would be interested to know what kind of tracking is used and how detailed.
Suspect a lot of teams use it and probably have it for years. Basic tracking data on nba.com, but I suspect teams probably have much more detailed tracking data. I don’t have subscriptions to any of the pay sites. I think some of them are supposed to have much more detailed tracking data.
here’s the methodology: https://dunksandthrees.com/blog/metric-comparison
Thanks
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1354568323070124032?s=20
The two biggest culprits IMO on the offensive side of the ball are Garland and Drummond, along with a dishonorable mention for McGee. I get that Garland’s been injured, but strictly looking at his numbers, he’s taking way too many 2-point shots…. his shot profile should look some more like Cedi or Prince, where the majority of his shots are 3s. According to BBref, nearly 40% of his shot attempts are midrange shots (outside 3ft-to inside 3pt line)…. just inefficient basketball. One thing in Garland’s favor is that his ability to just run offense and pass the ball has led… Read more »
I think Garland, because of his size, needs some help or space to get his three off unless he starts taking them from way deep. Wouldn’t mind seeing him run around some off ball screens after initiating to try to get him free for catch and shoot. Agree on Windler. Think he needs to be utilized more to space. They should be running him off screens all the time to try and grt him open catch and shoots.
I don’t think it’s a strategy or physical issue for Garland… it’s that he’s 21 and guys (Drummond, McGee) are barking in his ear about getting shots and it’s leading to crappy offense.
Perimeter guys should tell Drummond and McGee to shove it and launch some threes… statistically would be a better choice for everyone outside of Okoro and Dotson.
I am not a huge fan of pullup threes unless your someone like Dame Lillard, Cj McCollum, KI, Durant, Harden, Curry etc. Not very efficient shot for most players because most players aren’t very good at them. Would rather they generate actual looks for these guys, including Garland. Most of the open treys we get seem to be in transition, o boards, off broke plays, and the occasional kickout or pop that the other team fails to contest. I don’t want guys to just start jacking threes for the hell of it. They need to be within the flow of… Read more »
DG pull up game would be inefficient, but the Cavs need to find out if he can do it because that’s his pathway to becoming an NBA player.
Sexton is good at it and should absolutely do it more…. any shot Sexton takes is better than Drummond takes from a process standpoint.
And I think in general you’re taking my ornery tone and turning it into a strawman… nowhere do I say we should take bad shots… we are ALREADY taking bad shots with Drummond/McGee taking nearly 25 shots per game at a sub 50% level.
I dunno how good Sexton is at pullup treys. He got hot against bkn, but I dunno if he gets clean looks with his motion very often. I am more ok with him taking pullups than Garland but I think we’d reach marginal returns quickly if that was a major component of his game. My point is I don’t think just shifting more shots to the perimeter is going to fix things. It might help, but the offense seems fundamentally predictable and disjointed a lot of time, even when Dre is out or the bigs aren’t the focus of a… Read more »
I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think that’s what’s happening at all… they should use the Nance infinitely more on offense, and the guards more in general. Cedi’s gotten better recently with increased usage as well.
I just think we need to scheme people open. I don’t think Sexland is to the point where it is just going to go smoothly leaving it totally up to them. Nance could be used more in a scheme that actually creates passing lanes for him and open shots on the perimeter. I don’t think we generate a ton of open perimeter looks in half court no matter who has the ball. Obviously with DG back, he should be running the show and the guards should be the focus, but I don’t think it will be enough even with Nance… Read more »
You create open perimeter shots by putting pressure on the rim, the guards just need to learn where guys are and the shooters need to move to the correct open space.
We’re trying to put pressure on the rim by using bigs to take shots and who are not good at kicking out to shooters.
If a drive and kick scheme is the primary way we are going to try to generate open perimeter shots we have a ways to go this season. We need spacing for driving lanes. Leveraging off ball actions with shooters is one way to do that instead of just going three out and one in plus the ball handler.
yup, that’s why JB’s two center lineups are garbage, and Okoro playing heavy minutes is just something they’re going to have to suffer thru.
Also, our guards are 21 and 22 years old, any expectation of not struggling was fundamentally unreasonable.
I agree, it also may be the coaches who want to get Drummond a ton of touches as well. I just checked Garland’s 3P%, and I was very surprised he’s at 38%…seems lower than that. 4.7 attempts per game.
Absolutely correct IMO MikeO…. JB’s entire basketball identity for this team is “dominate the rim.” It’s the same on offense and defense.
The problem with it offensively is that Drummond and McGee suck at scoring efficiently, they’re atrocious.
And we’ve built an offensive system around Drummond and McGee post ups instead of Sexland three pointers. It’s just completely backwards from an analytical POV.
I got a shoutout from Nate (crying) haha
This was a good recap though from ‘both sides’. I really think the Cavs have to switch up defense schemes against great teams where they play more zone. Also agree with David Cavs have to shoot more 3s. When’s the last three Windler even attempted? He should be attempting at least 4-5 per game. Also would like to see Garland do the same with shooting 3s and letting it rip.
GO CAVS!!
WOULD KEEP ICE AS A STARTER –DO NOT WANT TO MESS WITH HIS CONFIDENCE —WE KNEW HIS OFFENSE WAS GOING TO BE A WORK IN PROGRESS / CAN ONLY IMPROVE WITH PLAYING TIME AS A STARTER / HIS DEFENSE / HUSTLE / ATHLETICISM WILL ALWAYS BE THERE —-OFFENSE WILL EVENTUALLY CATCH UP WITH TIME
JOHNB DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE RUN “HORNS ” ALOT —LNJ / DRE LINED UP FOR THAT SET / BUT THEY NEVER REALLY HAVE RUN IT OR AT LEAST RUN IT TO ANY EFFECTIVENESS —–I FOR ONE LIKE THE ‘HORNS SET —ACTION ‘ ALLOWS FOR ALOT OF OPTIONS
McGee was pretty good on Davis.
Good recap.
Thoughts on offensive struggles. We’re terrible in the half-court. Some, maybe a lot of that can be partially explained by significant injuries for the majority of the year. But I think we’re probably easy to game plan for. Our set offense doesn’t seem to be very complex. Usually some ball screens or a couple off-ball screens at the very beginning of the set and then improvised isolation in the post or guards calling improvised high screens and going from there. The occasional opportunistic cut. We get a fair percentage of production off tovs in transition. When we get into half… Read more »
Cont. But you have to have shooters that can get their shot off quick for most of those off-ball shooting oriented actions. Garland, Windler, and Love (by virtue of being tall) and Cedi (when he is hitting) are probably the only guys capable of being shooting threats off actions like that. Windler is a prime candidate for steady diet of off ball flare screens. He could be a big threat off flare, floppy, or elevator (skinny enough to fit through). Garland too, but that takes the ball out of his hands initially unless his has initiated already and it is… Read more »
Good cap. The reffing was terrible in terms of calls or non-calls on actual fouls. The lineups were way less than ideal. Some of the mistakes were egregious. Dre had his literal worst play of the year on that tov. Yet the cavs somehow were still in it pretty late in the fourth. Took James getting hotter from long distance (despite his aptness this year) as far as shots taken than he probably has been in awhile for them to close it out. Usually it wouldn’t take that based off the aforementioned mistakes and reffing. As far as the offense,… Read more »
Two things I’m thinking about right now is whether there’s an argument to start Prince in place of Okoro, and continue to bring DG off the bench, and just slide Cedi over to the 2.
I think the statistical argument is definitely there… but not sure about chemistry argument.
Prince is flirting with a top 150 PIPM, DG has sunk below 300. Also, the bench has been struggling now for quite some time, granted injuries have played a major role. But last night, DG was the only guy who could get a good shot off consistently among the bench squad.
OK just double checked, Prince is playing well for us, but the statistical argument falls apart somewhat when we include his Nets stint. However, Okoro’s really struggling offensively, simply not NBA ready offense from him right now.
I’d go back to the young guys, but let prince be the backup four for now. I’m done with the two center lineup except in rare cases, and Javale and Drummond should never ever play together. Both too turnover prone.
Amen to that!!! LMFAOOO
I’d stick with Okoro. He’s fine and biggest thing: doesn’t turn the ball over.
yeah, his defense is there, and might be a confidence booster to keep him there.
……..” MORE 3’S PLEASE ” ….NOT ONLY CEDI / DG / SEXTON / LNJ BUT ALSO THROW IN PRINCE AND FOR GOD SAKE ‘ UNLEASH ‘ WINDLER / WE PRIMARILY DRAFTED HIM FOR HIS 3 PT SHOOTING !!!!
yup… agree with you NOMAD let them fly Windler and Prince!!!
With Windler, he should be putting up 5 a game, honestly…depends on his minutes, of course.
I like the point/counterpoint recap David and Nate… some pretty good stuff here. I did wonder the same thing down the stretch, why not double LeBron and take your chances with all the other guys, who seem to be struggling? Nate great point about those 4 possessions… precisely the type of thing you can’t do against championship teams, unfortunately so many of our guys simply don’t have playoff/championship experience to gain that knowledge. Thought the same thing about Dre as David did… wonder if he was a late bloomer/growth spurt guy like AD was. Also Amen David about the 3pt… Read more »
I’d agree with you on the experience thing except Mcgee literally won a championship last year! He’s a special case though.
yeah, I think being 3rd string now kind of driving his on court antics at this point, which is unfortunate.
THINK 1 THING WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT —–THE BIGS NEED TO BE BIGS / ENOUGH ALREADY WITH ” WANNA BE PT GD ” — I CRINGED WHEN DRE “GAVE ” THE BALL TO LBJ AT A CRUCIAL MOMENT LATE IN THE GAME —-WITH 10 ABLE / QUALITY BODIES WE SHOULD BE CONSTANTLY PUSHING THE PACE / ATTACKING —THAT IS ALSO WHEN YOU CAN CREATE SOME NICE OPEN 3 PT SHOTS ——AM IMPRESSED WITH HOW WINDLER PLAYS THE GAME —STAY HEALTHY / GIVE HIM MORE MIN’S —1 PLAY ( DIDN’T SCORE ) IS WHEN HE CAUGHT A PASS IN THE… Read more »