Recap: Jazz 114, Cavs 75 (or, Hartenstein Arrives + LT)
2021-04-01As wretched as the score was in this game for Cleveland, this game told us a lot about the Cavs.
After the trade deadline, a number of franchises are dealing with integrating new personnel into the squad. Add injuries and Covid, and the business of sorting out continuity and change gets difficult. What isn’t difficult to assess is how yawning is the chasm between the Cavs near the bottom of the Eastern Conference and the top tier of the Western Conference. Even if you drink the very strange yet strangely clickable Kool-Aid narrative about the Cavs modelling their backcourt after the Jazz (which verges on trolling after losing by 39 points), it’s obvious…
Outside of the organization marketing bubble, this game was mainly about giving Isaiah Hartenstein some minutes at center. Readers will already be aware that all of the Cavs other options at that position have been cut (Thon Maker), traded (JaVale McGee), injured (Kevin Love), concussed (Jarrett Allen), ill (Larry Nance Jr.) or being paid to be injured for the Lakers (Andre Drummond). And unfortunately the Cavs’ shiny new 2023 and 2027 second round picks from Denver acquired in the McGee trade are likely still in the 7th or 10th grade and could not suit up.
The good news on Hartenstein is that he can rebound – ending up with 14 total rebounds, just barely getting edged in that category by Rudy Gobert’s 17. Hartenstein can pass – a deeper dive on his third quarter, which is when he had his most sustained run, will take a look at five of them. He may – may — have an outside shot and the other the guards look a lot better with him on the court; he may be an upgrade. Finally, JaVale McGee was never going to be a long term answer for this team at the backup center position, so in the long quest for continuity (apparently 25-year-old Ante Zizic was not the answer) maybe the 22-year-old German-American is the guy.
The bad news is that Hartenstein still fouls like crazy. He also falls down a lot, ending up on his ass on nearly half a dozen plays in this game alone. And regarding his relationship with teammates (in search of the ever-elusive ‘culture’ Holy Grail) and chemistry it is clearly going to take some time to develop. But the passing — it was brilliant, and although the rubble was everywhere, total desolation for Cleveland, there was a little ray of light there.
First Quarter
In the battle for the master narrative of growth and small statistical victories amid the carnage, let us not forget that Hartenstein won his first jump ball as a Cavalier. There would be more where that came from – Gobert would get beat again on a second-half jump ball. Advantage Cavs! In the coveted jump ball category, Cleveland smashed the Jazz in this game, doing so without JaVale McGee, and Gobert will have to live with that humiliation until the next time these two teams meet, either next year or in the NBA Finals. Fire up the press releases.
Back in reality where statistics are part of a context which might meaningfully affect the final outcome, much was made of the fact that Hartenstein gathered two fouls 38 seconds into his Cavs debut.
The first one was pure nerves.
The second one, 38 seconds into the game, was Gobert being cagy, flopping (without falling down) and getting a very generous whistle. So Hartenstein came out, saddled with the smallest possible sample size — the Cavs press release said he had to leave “in the first two minutes” of action .
Hartenstein re-entered the game with four minutes left in the quarter. By this time the Cavs were down 11 and assuming the position for a sustained beatdown, so the nerves should have cooled. Ironically, in his first start for Cleveland, Hartenstein’s early fouls allowed him to get into the game when he might normally have done so as a backup, meaning he was matched up more with his natural peer group of backup centers – in this case, Derrick Favors. Darius Garland wasted no time using Hartenstein’s size and mobility to buzz around the basket for two straight buckets. Hartenstein played with fate, almost fouling Jordan Clarkson on a perimeter three, but then the bell tolled; Gobert was back.
This time Hartenstein had a plan. “I’ll flop,” he seemed to think, smiling a little bit to himself. But when he carried out his cunning plan and used Gobert’s forearm shiver to throw himself into the paint, no whistle resulted. Viewers were treated to the first of what seems to be destined to be a long line of instances of Hartenstein on the floor, “chuntering from a sedentery position”.
Niang then hit a three thanks to Hartenstein being on his bum and a Taurean Prince late rotation. On offense, Hartenstein shouldered some of his big man load with authority, powering into Gobert with a confident but unsuccessful offensive take inside. Then he splashed a three, and it was smooth. There was much rejoicing. The Cavs backup center of the future had arrived.
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— Cleveland Cavaliers (@cavs) March 30, 2021
Second Quarter
In the second quarter Hartenstein was limited to two minutes of action. Fortunately Taurean Prince was in the game to look even more discombulated than the new guy with no underwear and zero practices under his belt; Prince was rusty at best in his 9 minutes on the court. Prince travelled, had another late closeout on a Jazz three, then literally jumped out of bounds laterally thanks to a Joe Ingles ball fake. Perhaps he was acting out a deep subconsious urge to be sitting on the Jazz bench.
In his short run in this quarter, Hartenstein went straight at Gobert again, on a double clutch shot that missed. Since the Cavs big man was on his ass under the basket begging for a whistle, the Jazz decided to run, leaving poor Damyean Dotson to hold back the human tide that is Rudy Gobert under the Cavs hoop.
Running about three seconds late on the play, Hartenstein decided to jog straight into the paint rather than sprint to the wide open Niang on the perimeter. So the new guy arrived at last under the hoop to try to explain to Dotson what he was thinking. Damyean really didn’t want to hear it. On the next possession, Hartenstein tried to fix things by shooting another open three, which was an airball that, generously speaking, might have gotten about a yard from the rim. J.B. took him out, sending in Dean Wade. However, in a small victory for the Cavs predilection for touting individual statistic performances in bad losses, Hartenstein got 2 two rebounds in the quarter. Go Cavs!
Third Quarter
By this point the Cavs were down 20+ points, but no one on the court was really mailing it in. The Jazz put in their G-League point guard to pick up Sexton or Garland full court. But Cleveland had also had a chance to do some planning at halftime – being all in the same room and at the very least warmed up was advantageous.
It was in this quarter where Hartenstein had his most sustained and successful run with the Cavs. He made a nice dump pass to a cutting of Garland at 10:45. He won the second of his two jump balls versus Colbert. When Sexton stepped into a midrange shot that was blocked by Gobert, the Cavs center tipped it back out. He had a nice feed to Garland inside. His action on a high screen with the two guards it made that could mean that Garland could feed Sexton for a bucket — how often does that happen?
He blocked a Gobert shot – let me say that again – Hartenstein blocked a Gobert shot – but then fell down for the third time, allowing Gobert to score. One of the nicest highlights for Hartenstein was an excellent skip pass to a backdoor-cutting Wade for an easy 2. Forget all the sarcasm, this passing touch is not to be minimised– although there are a lot of things that the Cavs need, Hartenstein does tick a lot of the boxes.
Hartenstein had seven assists in this game. Unfortunately Donovan Mitchell preceded to sell a moving screen even though Hartenstein wasn’t moving at all, putting him back into foul trouble. In the end, probably more concerning than the fouls was the half a dozen times he ended up on the ground.
Fourth Quarter
In the fourth quarter the Jazz kept Gobert in for the first couple of minutes, meaning he blocked a Dotson three pointer then finally trudged off the court. Mainly the Jazz ended up debuting a few new pickups in this quarter. These included the Turkish journeyman and three-time Buck Ersan Ilyasova at center, a step slower than Hartenstein and Isaac Okoro, Matt Thomas (about whom more below), Jarrell Brantley, Miye Oni, and and two-way player Trent Forrest (who picked up the Cavs guards full court on many a trip).
The only Cavalier to play the full frame was Broderic Thomas, but Hartenstein logged another nine minutes. Sexton had a ridiculous backward bucket and-one, and played a few nice two man sequences on the perimeter with Hartenstein, as well as dumping him a pass down low. The Jazz TV crew, much maligned, gave some grudging respect to Cleveland, saying “the Cavs continue to power it inside,” which is about all they could do with Gobert out and no one shooting threes particularly well.
Hartenstein will need to learn to get out of the way if Sexton wants to corral a loose board and charge full-speed up the court to attack the hoop. He fed Lamar Stevens for a nice swished three. The Stevens three is becoming a nice fixture in the offense. J.B. still never runs plays for Okoro so whole half-quarters go by without him doing much on offense, although he missed a chance for an alley-oop from Hartenstein. The Cavs’ new center got tired at this point and failed to box out a Jazz player who had failed to stay seated after a non-call flop, and theatrically missed a late grab at a Jazz pass, making faces at the Cavs bench instead of recovering to help on defense. His final pass was a gorgeous bowling-style pitch to Okoro, who for some reason did not turn to lay it in but threw it to Darius in the corner.
Garland ended up doing a load of dribble moves in front of the now very-well rested Donovan Mitchell which the two of them discussed at some length after the horn sounded. The Cavs narrowly lost the G-League battle in the fourth quarter, putting up 23 points to the Jazz third-string unit’s 24.
Randoms
In a podcast after returning back in Cleveland from Utah, Chris Fedor discussed how insane it is to judge this Cavs team on a single game.
Wine and Gold Talk Podcast with @H_Grove: Evaluating #Cavs GM Koby Altman. The challenges of keeping a clear-eyed view during a rebuild. What’s up with Kevin Love? https://t.co/7cJWebJeej
— Chris Fedor (@ChrisFedor) March 31, 2021
So perhaps we could compare this game with the last time the Cavs played against the Jazz, on January 12th in Cleveland. The first impression one gets is that the Cavs lineup for that game looked completely different. The Cavs, no surprise, also got beat down in that contest. But in the earlier game they at least had an experienced answer for Gobert — namely a battery of bigs in JaVale McGee, Larry Nance, and Thon Maker. (Drummond was out with an achilles injury, and Sexton was also out.) And so the Cavs featured Cedi Osman logging nearly 38 minutes (17 points, 0-6 from three), JaVale McGee played about 21 minutes as a starter through whom they were running the offense in the first quarter. Cleveland was experimenting with its backup point guard position, meaning that Yogi Ferrell played nearly 24 minutes. Lamar Stevens also got some burn, ending up four for eight from the field.
By contrast, the Utah starting five made no changes whatsoever and made only minor modifications to their bench, just tinkering with the very end of the bench to bring in some talent from Iowa State University, via the G League, namely Matt Thomas. Dylan Windler, having been denied the ability this year to take the court against his idol Joe Ingles, was watching the new Utah swingman in the fourth quarter intently.
So in addition to competence, the Jazz also had continuity on their side. We will see if the Cavs can finally find some kind of consistency in their rotations and get Hartenstein feeling more solid and throwing more dimes as the year continues its inexorable march.
Tonight, the Sixers are in town, without Joel Embiid, and Cavs fans can look forward to the long-awaited return of Delly and Kevin Love.
Kevin Love and Matthew Dellavedova are both available tonight for #Cavs, per Bickerstaff. Both will have their minutes monitored.
— Spencer Davies (@SpinDavies) April 1, 2021
https://twitter.com/YoungNBA/status/1378201812327612418?s=20
Milwaukee just absolutely shredded Portland tonight… and Dame was shooting well.
Holiday huge game… they seem to be rounding into form right now.
He’s been more consistent at the line, but people aren’t going to believe it until he does it in the playoffs. Ridiculous line, though.
Probably still going to have some jumpers for them for that to happen. With the nets might not even matter if/whenKD comes back. Thought the super team era was done. Guess not.
Sexton mid-season report Pros: Top 100 offensive impact player in the NBA (+0.8 Off. EPM, 79th percentile in the NBA, ranked #94) Excellent midrange shooter (47% FG%, 76th percentile in the NBA), Slightly above average efficiency scorer (57% TS%, 55th percentile in the NBA), Slightly above average decision maker with the ball (12% TO%, 52nd percentile in the NBA). Cons: hasn’t shown NBA quality defense, and his offense isn’t good enough to compensate for it (-1.7 Def. EPM, 11th percentile in the NBA, ranked #400) pathetic rebounder (7% defensive rebounding rate, 2nd percentile in the NBA) below average finisher around… Read more »
EPM updated:
#44 Allen +2.5
#114 LNJ +0.9
#199 Hartenstein -0.6
#218 Sexton -0.9
#261 Cedi -1.5
#264 Wade -1.5
#324 DG -2.6
#328 Stevens -2.6
#329 Prince -2.6
#337 KLove -2.8
#339 Dotson -2.8
#346 Thomas -2.9
#379 Cook -3.5
#389 Windler -3.8
#396 Okoro -3.9
https://twitter.com/HoustonRockets/status/1378136155770785796?s=20
damn faked Smart out of his shoes LMFAOOOo
Cavs letting Cook go, per Fedor.
Down to 13. Think one of Stevens/Thomas gets converted?
Great writing here; very enjoyable!
Mean Dean Wade is a keeper; Hartchenstein is big white stiff; Garland hates shooting outside shots; Sexton is hit/miss when defenses key on him; Delly rusty; Love great; Cavs need Nance or Allen back quickly; Cavs miss wide open shots badly
Amen. Every point.
Missing Allen means they basically can’t win a game. Bad luck that he got concussed after the trade deadline, but good tank timing, I guess.
such a goofy team its hard to tell if they are developing appropriately or just half assing to get through games. team looked awesome for a half then completely combusted in second half, its so bizarre. Its one thing for having lot of youth, but still its competitive basketball and just being smart and aware. I think even if Cavs get the other guys back (Allen and Nance) I’m not sure if we get full picture of this team or it will be too late. Team has 25 games to do something or its just a lost cause, especially when… Read more »
WOW Nuggets put on a show tonight… JOKIC MVP!!!!
well, they looked good when Love was in, so that’s what counts tonight.
if he can stay healthy, that transforms the offense instantly.
Sorely missing Jarrett Allen of course too.
We will be significantly improved with Love, LNJ, and Allen all getting minutes.
dang I totally brainfarted and didn’t realize LNJ was out too tonight.
yup… looking forward to getting veterans back on the floor.
Lmao Hartenstein wanted that final 3
Sexton’s gotta kick that out to the corner on that give and go. So used to LeBron making that play, I honestly was surprised he’d try to shoot the layup.
I’d take a motivated and healthy Dwight Howard over all the other veteran bigs that the contenders have acquired (Aldridge, Griffin, Cousins, McGee)
Cousins is washed. Aldridge can’t provide the same rim protection or lob threat. I’d take McGee though for a couple different reasons.
And Griffin obviously isn’t a center.
Rhe second hald of this game was a turd sammich.
It’s all I ate. Might have to find a replay.
OH NO SIMMO!!! LMFAOOOO
indeed, sucks to have a constant roster churn and random lineups.
on top of bad play that is LMFAO
Tbatcall on okoroas thiiiin
Sexton was pretty awful this game. Blocked/stripped about a billion times.
he was good in the first few minutes as a catch-and-shoot supplemental scoring threat to Love, apart from that not a good game, Darius also not really up to scratch in this one either
DG with a total jekyl and hyde performance tonight.
Garland hates shooting outside shots and loves driving against guys a foot taller than him. Dude needs to learn how to shoot quick in tight spaces after screen is set…he has a great shooting touch but just loves driving to basket…costing team points and/or he turns it over
Okoro is actually pretty good at finishing with his left hand
his college film showed he’s an incredible finisher at the rim with either hand. Hasn’t really had the opportunity to show it so far because the ball is never in his hands LMFAO
I frankly have no idea whether he has any shake to his game because he just drives on closeouts. Which may be why he just drives on closeouts. Without great handles and no pull-up game his opportunities to drive in the nba are probably limited at the current moment. He isn’t bully driving like lbj or Zion. There could be a real reason the ball is never in his hands in the half court. You either have to have an unstoppable first step, great handles and shake, or some sort of pull up game to drive consistently in the nba… Read more »
his handles are good, I’d say potentially even better than Sexton TBH.
There’s absolutely no pull up game though, he’s going to the rim 100% of the time or kicking out.
Sexton has an insane first step and pull-up game though. Has too be handles that can throw off defenders or threat of pull-up/unbeatable first step. Pull up allows guys without shake or elite handles to make defenders close enough to beat them. Shake allows guys with just good or average first step to maneuver to rim. Even guys with great first step have to either be tall or bigger to get all the way consistently because teams will just collapse without the outside or midrange threat. It doesn’t seem to me like he has any of those. Garland gets by… Read more »
That was pretty
TP looking anything but smooth…
he’s useless they might as well play Thomas in his place….he’s doing nothing to help the team.
Sloppy play this 4th quarter plus Sixers on fire = game
yup, feels like the energy went out in the 2nd half…. letting offense dictate effort on defense.
It’s like the Cavs are being told to compete in the 1st half but ensure they get the L at the end of the day
soon as Love hit his minutes limit, it’s been a mess offensively.
How’d he look when he was fresh?
fantastic… rebounding was a little rough, but that’s it.
🤞 for an injury-free period
happy days, first quarter was hugely entertaining, was good to see he got more than just a single burst (will have to check how many minutes). Delly got quite a lot of run as well, so hopefully they can cut Quinn Cook loose now…
Wow that was nasty, Thybulle
awful defense Sexton.
followed by a bad shot by Sexton.
Yeah seriously wtf was he doing there on D
falling asleep as usual LMFAOOO
A lot of times we blame Sexton’s D on his lack of size, but that was just plain lack of focus and defensive awareness. His defensive basketball IQ is so bad
yup, he doesn’t anticipate actions at all, and doesn’t really put in much effort either.
ooooo Wade wide open just couldnt hit.
DG turnover machine in the 2nd half, really needs to clean it up… same could be said of Sexton too.
Philly elevated their defense and the Cavs didn’t.
Sexton and Hartenstein -18, -14 respectively.
Cavs O is too easy to defend
Dg ROUGH pass.
Stevens so solid.
NICE CUT DG! GREAT PASS DELLY!
Your feed too fast. Pause for a minute!
Sweet dime!
LMFAOOO my bad Nate, will do!!!
Delly being delly.
Delly with the floor burns! Glad to have him back!
LOL…foul on Garland…right…
Seriously?
Howard is chaos incarnate
Lamar baby!!!! Yikes wide open 3 off the side
Oof
Stevens at 5.like it.
Hartenstein definitely a foul machine
Hartenstein needs to learn when to not challenge stuff…only way he’ll get the fouls under control…
Or when to challenge instead of just making a reach foul.
LNJ coaching opportunity
Yeah he needs to make his fouls count.. just seems very undisciplined
Sexton so much better when he doesn’t over handle.
Cabs could use a run here.
Sexton with lost money!
nice pass Delly, but Sexton’s not a good finisher at the rim.
Nice to see reinforcements have arrived, new and old faces. Will need playing time together I guess, but it’s a relief.
Hartenstein is definitely a guy with skills…we’ll see how far those skills take him…
Skills+size
Sexland getting a little shot happy.
yup agreed… DG cold tonight.
GREAT DRIVE DG! Hartenstein gets to the line!
GREAT PASS HARTENSTEIN!!!! nice cut and finish Sexton!
Sexton open just missed…. Wade probably should’ve just shot the 3, like his chances better LOL
Just nice to see Love’s ability to pass out of the high post/perimeter
Sexton’s n johnny on the spot.
Ok got a generous call but like the aggression.
Just joining in – glad to see Love, Delly, and Prince all on the floor tonight!
yikes, Cavs come out flat to start,