President Stevens Pushes the Button: Trade Talk
2021-06-18Newly ensconced as President of Basketball Operations, Brad Stevens wasted little time in working the phones with Oklahoma City, and thereby dumping Kemba Walker.
The Thunder get:
-Kemba Walker: nearly 32 years old, just finished 9th season in NBA, 14 career playoff wins (none against the Cavs), due $36,016,200 in 2021-22 and has player option for $37,653,300 in 2022-23.
I'm baffled by this "Kemba is done" stuff. Dude played 50 games in the meatgrinder season, averaged 19/4/5 in 32 minutes, had an EPM of +2.7. Plus with so many teams having cap room this summer, I bet OKC flips him for an asset before Sept. Stevens is a total idiot.
— HoopsDogg (@oldseaminer) June 18, 2021
-the No. 16 overall pick in the 2021 NBA Draft
– Boston’s second-round draft pick in 2025
The Celtics get:
-Al Horford, just turned 35 years old, finished his 14th season in NBA, 57 career playoff wins (a morose 4-19 against the Cavs in the playoffs), due $27,000,000 in 2021-22 and has player option for $26,500,000 in 2022-23.
Are Thompson and Horford the first father/son duo to play on same team in NBA history?
Huge get for OKC and a disaster for Boston. Stevens starts out his tenure with a total stinkbomb. https://t.co/b2pbStAxtY
— HoopsDogg (@oldseaminer) June 18, 2021
-Moses Brown (C), a New York high school star who did a year at UCLA, was undrafted in 2019, now 21 years old, just finished his second season (effectively his first year with decent playing time), no playoff experience, due $1,701,593 in 2021-22, $1,846,738 in 2022-23, and about $2 million and a player option in 2023-24.
– a second-round pick in 2023
CtB analyst Ben Werth sums it up “a depressing deal with two decent players who were massively overpaid.”
But, if you take a big swig of Koby Altman Kool-Aid, perhaps you believe that — besides draft picks — all that matters is young talent, building culture, the potential for future achievement. By that rubric, it’s Moses Brown who has the highest upside in this trade — in his sole game against Cleveland this past April (an absolute tankathon, if ever there was one), he was impressive, putting up 13 points and 11 rebounds in 31 minutes, facing off in stretches against our own mighty center prospect, Isaiah Hartenstein, who put up 8 points, 11 boards, and 6 assists (Hartendimes/TM) in 26 minutes.
Boston now has a logjam, if a temporary one, at center: Tristan Thompson, Robert Williams III (presumably their main main of the present and future), Tacko Fall, and Luke Cornet. Perhaps he was jealous when the Cavs rolled out Drummond, McGee, Nance, and Thon Maker?
Since all roads lead to Cleveland, the ridiculous has to be considered (in truth the responses are better than the tweet, as they consider TT’s state as a player as well as the state of play in the real estate market on Lake Erie’s pleasant shores):
Also, do not be surprised if Tristan Thompson flirts with coming back to Cleveland – especially if Hartenstein declines his player option and signs elsewhere.
A veteran who wants to be here and provides a positive presence fits the bill of what Koby Altman wants…
— Evan Dammarell (@AmNotEvan) June 18, 2021
If the Cavs need a veteran center for some reason, might I suggest JaVale McGee instead? He was the epicenter of the league for about a quarter and a half of Denver’s elimination game against the unstoppable and formerly rebuilding Phoenix Suns — sources also tell me he has some kind of experience with the current Cavs roster.
So this year OKC will have their own first-round pick, Boston’s, Golden State’s first-round pick, and either Miami’s or Houston’s. Not to be utterly stuck in the past, but someone really needs to go to Seattle to interview some hard-core, perhaps sobbing, Sonics fans on draft night.
But it being the NBA, how could one really get stuck in the past anyway? Who has time to gather in the meaning of the tectonic shifts of only 24 hours prior?
This is some crazy news https://t.co/8TJWv574VO
— Cavs:TheBlog (@CavsTheTweets) June 17, 2021
The Eastern Conference keeps on shifting, even as competing versions of the conference’s new power foundations are being laid and successively dynamited on a nightly basis by Milwaukee, Brooklyn, and Trae Young’s nimble Hawks. And, like James Harden’s twangy hamstring, Philadelphia may not be done thrashing just quite yet. Above, or more likely, underneath it all, in a Bostonian bunker whose walls are filled to the brim with highly flammable Indiana corn and crumpled old paper plans, President Stevens continues his vigil and his plans. Will Koby Altman allow his fingers to trip across the digits, enter Steven’s mind palace to steal a move or a pick or two? We shall see, but no doubt the Association will continue its relentless, inevitable, confounding transformations.
Bucks win a slugfest. Great game.
FYI just posted an open thread and roster review for your reading pleasure LMFAO
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1406255365034029057?s=20
Hell of a celebration, and that Cavs team deserved all of it.
Happy championshipaversery!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBPwW_jGSmE
In all the excitement I neglected to mention that I enjoyed your article, Adam.
Latest Roadtrippin’ with John Michael / walk down the 2016 memory lane is fun. Will post link separately in case it is embargoed.
Jazz 48.8 from three, Clips 51.4…just nuts…
two of the best offenses in the NBA, while our guards launch floater after floater LMFAOOOO
I never want to hear Cavs fans saying stuff like ‘Sexton is basically Donovan Mitchell!’ ever again. Not unless he improves a *lot*. Just stop.
Their basketball opinions can be ignored!!! LMFAOOOOO
Sexton isn’t even like Jordan Clarkson, let alone Donovan Mitchell lol
Mitchell was the biggest snub on the all-nba teams. By far.
Paul George uses that arm to shove away defenders more than any other player in the NBA. Rarely gets called for it, but he got dinged there for once.
This game is bananas…
B-A-N-A-N-A-S
I tripled down on the Clips @ +8.5 and +14.5 and was SCARED LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
Originally got Clips @ +6.5
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1406103078076624896?s=20
Outrageous shooting!!!
wow.. T. Mann.. 2019: Rd 2, Pk 48 (LAC)… i love long-shots.. who do the exceptional (if even ocassionally)
Ice in his veins
type of guy you take a chance on in the 2nd round!!!
Crazy quarter…
HOLY CRAP WHAT A GAME!!!!!!!!
How the hell do u not guard Mann at this point? Make someone else beat you.
I guess they did and it was Jackson.
Two teams with the series lead lacking the discipline to close it out at home tonight.
JC cookin.
JORDAN CLARKSON BABYYYYYYYYY
chuckie took a lot of heat when he was in CLE.. now a big part of a 52-20 team.. things never seem to change.. i prefer PHX but would be fine with UTA
Yup, Me and EG were always believers in JC though LMFAOOOOOO
Yup, I’m definitely rooting for Jazz Suns WCF!!!
I love when NBA Jam comes to life. Clarkson has one speed: shoot. I didn’t hold that against him when he was in Cleveland. He does his role quite well. It’s just that the Cavs needed so much more than that….
IDK, I like guys that make their threes…. Koby doesn’t I guess LMFAOOOO
the cavs need to go to lourdes
LMFAOOOOOOOO Amen buck!!!
Religion on a Friday–nice
What a garbage call. Clips challenge that, and they uphold that trash, cause, y’know, the refs are never hilariously wrong. If that’s a foul, any contact in the paint should be flagrant 2s.
Terance Mann bringing it…
Just realized Terrance Mann was the writer in Field of Dreams played by the great James Earl Jones.
For real??? LMFAOOO that’ funny!
Mann can ball too!
“Peace, love and dope”
Lol. Collins sitting there with no one guarding him. Juat pass him the ball and let him shoot.
Only guys on the Sixers I trust even a little bit in a game 7 are Curry, Embiid, and Maxey a little bit…
yup… 100%
Philly fans already all in on doing the Dirk team model for one title LMFAOOO
Looks like game 7. Finally dumped Simmons.
Sixers will lose this. It has been foretold.
I wanna believe….
LMFAOOOo game 7 gonna insane!!! LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
No sound. The lights are out?
yes LMFAOOOOOOOOO
back on…
Trae is “lights out”!!!!!
I’ll show myself out.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
I would truly hate myself and my life choices right now if I were a Sixers fan…
it’s really bad….. they’re not having fun LMFAOOOOOO
HOLY CRAP WHAT A SHOT TRAE YOUNG!!!!!!
Ridic
Omg. This is stupid. Embiid and Collins are both fake tough guys.
Collins and Bogy choking, Huerter’s a gamer.
Philly fan on Ben Simmons, “Starting to think maybe you shouldn’t give a max to a guy who can’t play in the playoffs” LMFAOOOOOOOOO
Doc just chillin LMFAOOOOOO NBA chat is having a field day with the memes!!!
Trae gotta recognize his gravity right now & pass for the easy bucket
uh oh, getting ball hoggy with the game on the line???
Wow, Simmons finally made a big play on Trae…
And promptly turns it over on the screen…
Nate McMillan leaving Trae on the bench too long????
https://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status/1406060490627948548?s=20
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO THATS RIGHT JOHN!!! GO CAVS!!! DELLY LAMA BABYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
Just don’t see the Sixers winning this…they can if they go on a run and get a cushion, but if it’s down to the wire, they’re losing…
yup, Doc will snatch a loss from the jaws of victory
It’s a coin toss IMHO. But with everything on the line, we’ll find out if sixers have a heart.
bogdan bogdan needs to step up and not lay a steaming pile on the hardwood.. put the mothas from philly away.. don’t let it go to game 7..
definitely, he’s been crap this series.
and he misses 2 FT ??!!
Simmons turned out to be a pretty mediocre pick at his spot…
nah, that’s too far…. but he hasn’t improved one bit since his rookie year LMFAOOOO
that draft kind of sucked TBH…. Jaylen, Jamal, Sabonis only guys I like really out of that draft.
Curry must be tired of carrying these bums…
Real hooper Curry carrying the Process losers (bit this from my NBA chat LMFAOOO)
Playing like this, Embiid is never gonna get that Rihanna date.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@ Simmo not sure if they were interims but Ty Lue was the third coach to win an NBA after getting the job midseason… Paul Westhead and Pat Riley were the other two.
First rate research, CLF.
Despite everything, Sixers are neck and neck. Simmons a nonfactor once again, and sitting with three fouls.
Let the Simmons mock trades rain down!!!
Not gonna lie, I’d trade Love for him…
no thank you, worse money and locked in five years and at least Love can shoot.
unless you’re willing to completely remake the roster, and then even then, he just sucks offensively.
He’s gotta be stung by the crticism, but he’s been a passenger.
Kind of a victim of circumstance…. he’s really a small ball 5, but they have Embiid.
actually, tears of embiid will be more enjoyable to watch than tears of anteto.. go ATL.. still hoping for an ATL vs PHX finals.. “the worst to first” finals..
At a party and the cell is just bad enough i can’t watch the game.
Cant believe how bad Philly is collapsing.
:( philly’s starters quit, their bench doesn’t wanna go home.
ATL without trae on the court is a disaster.
It’s an ugly game made for an opportunist. Feel like Trae is gonna get it done.
Yup, Trae is a gamer.
Honestly looks like 76ers have had their identity stripped away. Hawks looks like a team. Sixers don’t.
Hawks have been underrated by everyone all year post-McMillan…. it’s crazy! Gambling darling!!! LMFAOOOOO
Which begs the question – has an interim coach every won the chip?
great question!!! googling has produce no answer, so I’m guessing not!
Ty Lue?
I don’t think he was an interim when they won in 2016… could be wrong though.
signed a 3 year contract immediately after Blatt’s firing.
WOW WHAT A SUMMER—–THE MRS NOMAD’S HONEYDO LIST IS “RELENTLESS “—–THE GRANDCHILDREN HAVE SEEMED TO HAVE TAKEN UP “SUMMER RESIDENCE AT PAPA’S “————–” MORE BEER PLEASE “————DID IT SHOCK ANYONE ELSE CARLISE’S ANNOUNCEMENT // SHOCKED ME ——WTF ARE THE MAVS / M CUBAN DOING DOWN THERE ——WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THE CAVS LAND IN THE LOTTERY —I JUST HAVE MY DOUBTS WE WILL SNEAK IN THE TOP 5 ——HAVEN’T HADE THE TIME NOR THE INTEREST TO REALLY WATCH MUCH PLAYOFF GAMES ……………HATS OFFF TO TITO// TRIBE —WITH ALL THEIR INJURIES // SETBACKS —TO BE WHERE THEY ARE IN… Read more »
I have tl disagree with one element if your excellent article. The best asset upside in this trade is the 16th pick in a stacked draft. I 100% think Stevens could have waited till free agency and moved Kemba without attaching a pick: to the Cavs at the very least.
Regarding Nate’s tweet, Walker has an arthritic knee. He may sit more games than he plays the rest of his career. And he’s owed a bathtub full of money. That’s just a cap killer.
Moses Brown may one day be something, who knows, he’s a budding Andre Drummond right now. I wouldn’t be weeping over passing that down the line.
I think it’s a pretty good trade for both teams, honestly.
I will say that if kemba put that up in a condensed season I’m not that worried about his knee. Yes, it will need managed. This is far more about getting ybder the Cap for Fournier, and the cash bleed that is owning an nba team right now.
Also, positions Celtics for 2022 free agency, they can offer a max contract with plenty of rumors about Beal to Boston to play with friends.
Chris Fedor with some good nuggets in the draft article.
I’m gonna check out the undrafted list, and also he name dropped Jalen Johnson, Franz Wagner and Josh Giddey as best options outside of the top 5. So, if I assume that’s what he’s hearing from the organization, that’s an encouraging sign IMO, I obviously love JJ, Franz is at least a 3 and D type we should be looking at, and I haven’t seen Giddey but they have an inside connection with Delly and I trust his judgment.
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/06/cleveland-cavaliers-have-plenty-at-stake-in-tuesdays-nba-draft-lottery.html