Recap: Hornets 123, Cavs 112 (the Fourth Quarter Wall)
2021-10-23The Cavs put in a good first half of basketball, but couldn’t put together a good game, losing to the Charlotte Hornets 123-112. The Cavs’ defense was a sieve for the second game in a row in spite of the big three lineup, and tonight’s offense was shell of what is was against the Grizzlies in the opener. Let’s dive in with the takeaways…
1. Turnovers and cold shooting from three doom the offense
The Cavs’ offensive rating for tonight was an unacceptable 105.7, with 18 turnovers and 29.0% shooting from three. The turnovers and threejacking kept the Cavs from being competitive in this game. It was a far cry from the well oiled machine in Memphis. Ricky Rubio and Collin Sexton, while producing some good offense at times, failed to truly involve the front court guys and generate good team offense. Rubio and Young Bull’s turnovers at the beginning of the fourth quarter were the final nails in the coffin. Darius Garland’s late scratch due to an ankle injury suffered in Memphis proved to be a major obstacle to overcome. The bench offensive unit led by Kevin Pangos struggled to get any offense going. It’s also fair to wonder how much the bench unit is missing the shooting of Dean Wade and Dylan Windler in the early going.
2. Defense and rebounding a problem again
The Cavs were out-rebounded by double digits for the second straight game 46-36, a worrisome development considering the starting lineup including three seven footers in Lauri Markkanen, Jarrett Allen, and Evan Mobley. Coach J.B. Bickerstaff was also quick to point out the lack of contributions from the back court players too. Starting Lauri Markkanen at the three was supposed to help the defense and rebounding, and it’s really done neither. The Cavs posted another terrible defensive rating, with a 116.0. But, in spite of the poor defense and rebounding, Markkanen has elevated the team’s offense, with the Cavs posting a 111.0 offensive rating while Markkanen’s on the court in the first two games. It’s an unfortunate reality that the Cavs’ lack of chemistry is really showing on the defensive end.
3. No rest for the weary
The Cavs had better ice up tonight, because they have a back to back with the mighty impressive Atlanta Hawks, who just completely dismantled the Dallas Mavericks on national TV. It will be the Cavs’ final home game of October, with a brutal road trip against a slew of title contenders (Denver, both L.A. teams, Phoenix) waiting for their arrival.
4. Highlight of the night
Enjoy this one, courtesy of Jarrett Allen:
JARRETT ALLEN WITH AN EARLY DUNK OF THE SEASON CANDIDATE 🤯 pic.twitter.com/nmfQDX3Izt
— Hoop Mixes (@TheHoopsMixes) October 22, 2021
Nate’s Notes:
Rubio really seemed to sputter to start of the fourth quarter, as did Allen. While the Cavs led the first half 59-54, it was clear that the Hornets were sandbagging. Gordon Hayward hardly had his name called in the first quarter. I had to check the names to see if he was in. The second half: 14 points and six dimes in 17 minutes. Similarly, Miles Bridges dropped 19. Cleveland seemed to not deal with the success of the first half well.
Six turnovers by Cleveland in their first eight possessions to start the fourth fueled a 17-4 run in 3.5 minutes from which the Cavs could never recover. Most of these turnovers were due to Rubio throwing blind passes and playing out of control. He had clearly hit the wall, and fatigue from an unexpected start had fueled his mental mistakes.
Collin Sexton was great on offense (until he wasn’t): 33 points on 21 shots in 34 minutes. He did a bit of everything: floaters in the half court, mid-rangers, a nifty behind-the back dribbles for a layup in transition, and then, he, like the rest of the Cavs started to rush when they were pushing the car back to pit road in the fourth, and he reverted to trying to do too much.
What seemed like a position of strength in the early season has turned into a position of weakness again, as a lack of lead guard depth was evident when Garland scratched. Kevin Pangos got some burn in the second quarter and seemed completely overmatched. He’s just too small against a team like Charlotte. I need to watch the film, but the place to play him was against the similarly tiny (and much stronger) Ish Smith. Pangos put up an impressive 0-fer with a foul in five minutes.
Isaac Okoro plays too afraid on offense. He has got to stop turning down shots in the flow of the offense, and he has to play with confidence. The coaching staff has jerked his role around, but he really ought to be starting at the two or the three, and the Cavs should just take their lumps with him learning to be a playmaker. That’s easy to say from here, but Ice was -21 in his 25 minutes Friday. But the Cavs have to have to have to get some wings in the game against teams like this. They’re giving themselves no shot.
Cedi Osman is a wing, and frankly looked like one of the Cavs’ best three players in his 17 minutes: flashing pretty dimes and attacking the basket and in transition on his way to nine points and a team high +4. Dean Wade, who’s also supposed to be a wing, played five minutes, hit a three and peaced out. These five minute burns do no one any good.
But the elephant in the room is the fact that Kevin Love and Lauri Markkanen lineups can’t defend. Kev was a rebound machine in the first half, then when Charlotte upped the intensity in the second half, completely fell apart, as Charlotte had so many second half opportunities. He looked completely outclassed against Charlotte’s collection of six-foot-seven muscled utility knives. Frankly? I’d sit Kev on the back-to-back and give his minutes to Stevens, who will at least defend, and I bet if you told him to go get 10 rebounds, he would. The rest of this is on the tower city lineup, who have to get more than 14 combined rebounds in 83 minutes.
It makes me wonder if the Cavs are just playing too fast, and just running out of gas in the second half. Of course, they’re playing fast due to the lack of creativity in the half court offense, making the Cavs easy to defend. But their conditioning has to catch up. Until then, Bickerstaff can’t let them suffer through brutal turnover stretches without burning timeouts to refuel. There is absolutely no point in saving timeouts for a crunch time that may never come because your team is making fatigue mistakes.
The Tower City lineup seems doomed, and I wonder if Cleveland waves the white flag. I’d think we’d see Okoro in the starting lineup and more Lamar Stevens against a wing heavy team like Atlanta. Unfortunately, with a brutal road trip coming, the mood of this team could turn sour quickly as questions will mount over whether J.B. Bickerstaff is getting the most out of this oddly assembled team, and the odds of a win in October look low. It’s a shame, because Allen and Mobley, rebounding aside, have looked like an unbelievably tantalizing pair, with jaw dropping moments and great all-around games both nights. If the Cavs don’t want a new skipper, they’re going to play hard enough to disprove my conclusion that J.B. Bickerstaff just isn’t a very good game coach.
LMFAOOo
Yezus. Lauri has zero post moves.
Live thread going up now if you wanna head on over!
Surprised there wasn’t more discussion of Mason Plumlee as the modern reincarnation of Moses Malone. Even Drummond on his best night would be green with envy at Plumlee’s prowess on the boards.
IDK, Drummond has been fantastic for Philly!!! LMFAOOOO
Yeesh just looked at his numbers for the first two games and my eyes nearly popped out of my head. Think a defined off the bench role probably suits him way better.
5.0 ppg (57% fg), 14.5 rpg, 2.0 spg, 2.0 bpg. In 18.5 mpg. 18.5 mpg. 34 PER.
He was good from what I saw of last night’s game, Doc just dribbled the win down his leg. That said, it’s Drummond, so give him time to suck. He rarely disappoints.
He’s no Mason Plumlee.
LMFAOOOOOO
Maybe. But his role is clearly defined with Embiid there. Rebound and play defense. That may cut some of his befuddling tendencies.
yup… Frank Vogel and LA clearly were holding him back!!!!
13.5 rpg
man….
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1451962882925735937?s=20
Cavs defensive FG% ranked:
Love: 43.5%
Allen: 43.5%
Mobley 45.2%
Okoro 50%
Wade 50%
Osman 50%
Markkanen 55.2%
Sexton 59.1%
Rubio 66.7%
Garland 83.3%
remind me how defensive FG% is calculated
what the opponent shoots while being guarded by the particular player.
Small sample sizes for sure… I don’t think the formula counts shots that wide open and are not even contested (which Love definitely has given up loooool)
Starting lineup from last night:
13 minutes, 103.6 ortg, 103.6 drtg, net rating 0.0.
That ain’t bad, but if Charlotte was sandbagging the first half as Nate seemed to think the the rating may be worse than it looks.
Heard second hand, but supposedly Mobley’s holding players to 45% from the field while guarding them… that’s exceptionally good!!!
nevermind, my friend read the graph wrongly…. opponents shooting 57.9% from 6 feet and in against Mobley :(
best rim protector currently? Kevin Love LMFAOOO @ 50% FG defensed.
Nate, our boy Giddey wasting away in OKC :(
https://twitter.com/NekiasNBA/status/1451914232052817926?s=20
That OKC team absolutely blows. But that’s Presti’s goal, so whatevs…
yup, Presti the “genius”!!! LMFAOOOO
The best lineup from last night according to NBA stats:
Rubio/Okoro/Markkanen/Love/Mobley
+32.2 in four minutes, with a 110.0 ortg, and 77.8 drtg… why’d they only get four minutes????
Who were those minutes against? Always the question with ratings in such a short timespan.
On the other hand, that lineup actually does make some sense on paper. Love could make up for rebounding deficiencies elsewhere (Mobley, Markkaenen, Okoro) plus provide more shooting. Mobley could maybe cover some of love and Markkanen’s defensive deficiencies and is unselfish. Okoro is obviously a better defensive option at the 2 than Sexton. Rubio is actually a point guard who has built in chemistry with love.
Seems like one of the more balanced lineups we could throw out on paper anyway.
yeah, the website doesn’t tell me against whom, but exactly 100% agree with you… on paper it makes some sense.
I think with Lauri and Love, they obviously are unathletic but can think their way thru playing good positional defense.
Okoro’s defensive bball IQ >>>>>>>>>> Sexton’s
Unfortunately Rubio’s defense is trending in the wrong direction so far this year (post-30 years old never good for NBA guards).
True on Rubio. Not the defender he once was. However, he is still probably in a different league than Garland or Sexton on that end. Granted haven’t been able to watch more than highlights of the first two games so that is just based on my gut feeling.
Rubio’s been really bad, giving up 66.7% on shots he’s defending.
How about his team defense and positioning? Both issues with Sexland in addition to the individual deficiencies?
Metrics say it’s still godawful,
Anecdotally, he’s slow and getting caught flat footed on off-ball cuts, also just slow at the point of attack.
I added my notes to the recap. Think Cleveland shows up tonight against Atlanta. They usually do.
Nice, 100% agree.. think Tower City should be over… they’re kind of stuck with it since Wade and Windler are injured.
Mobley’s struggling at the 4, definitely should’ve seen more Wade but I guess first game back they didn’t want to push.
I’m not blaming just Lauri and Kev for the defense… no one’s defending on this team, Okoro, Sexton, Mobley, every rotation player has an unacceptable drtg. In fact, the Cavs defense is marginally better with them in so far than out, which is hard to believe LMFAOOOOO
Thanks as always for the content. If we are going to pile on Collin when he stinks, I think we must acknowledge when he is good. A lot of tough shot making. If he didn’t make a few tough shots in the second half this could have gotten real ugly and he was a starting best (-5). Rubio was amazing in the first half and pretty meh in the second. Luxury to have him as a backup but probably a bit over his skis playing 30 mins a night against the best I just can’t get there with Kevin Love.… Read more »
Yeah that’s the thing, if Collin Sexton’s your best player that night, it most likely means you’re losing big LMFAOOO
In 125 games over two seasons, Sexton’s net rating: -9.2
Sexton’s net rating last night: -9.1
There was really nothing to praise, it was a typical Collin Sexton game… even when he’s good, he’s bad.
What Sexton giveth, Sexton takes away…
it’s truly a mind boggling coincidence!!! LMFAOOO
Ugh. Just a bad loss. Needed that win going in to this tough stretch. Going to get ugly fast. Why not start Okoro at the 2 in this game?
Yup. Charlotte had another level that the Cavs just don’t have.