CtB Draft Prospectus (or, the Wing Obsession Part 2)
2023-06-19Good afternoon/evening CtB!
The dust has settled on the 2022-23 NBA season, and the NBA Draft is just a few days away. The Cavs begin their offseason project to improve a roster that got bounced in embarrassing fashion to the New York Knicks, and that project begins the same way it did last offseason: The Wing Obsession, now Part 2.
The Cavs as it stands have only the 49th pick in this year’s draft, although POBO Koby Altman’s Minister of Propaganda Chris Fedor (just jokes, keep the information flowing Chris!) has just reported that the Cavs could be looking at purchasing/trading up to the 20-30th pick range to nab one of the interesting wing prospects slated to be available. First off, let’s look at what’s projected to be available at 49…
Second round prospects
As you can see here, according to Rookie Scale’s 2023 Consensus Big Board there’s five projected “wing” talents right in the Cavs’ range in the second round. Clearly the biggest name here is Emoni Bates of Eastern Michigan via Memphis. He was considered one of the top high school prospects in 2022 and completely flamed out in Memphis and transferred to Eastern Michigan to re-establish himself. While he did play better at Eastern Michigan it wasn’t enough to erase doubts about his ability to defend or not be a ball hog, granted he didn’t really play with any offensive talents worthy of any meaningful usage in Ypsilanti. He also caught a gun charge that looms over his head until he completes probation. The cold reality here is every prospect in this range is going to have flaws, the question is whether the Cavs have done their due diligence regarding Bates’ character. If so and they’re reasonably persuaded the worst is behind Bates, the Cavs could do worse than pick Bates with the 49th pick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5dpwYDsrwE
The prospect the Cavs should be “all-in” on among this quintet has to be sharpshooter Seth Lundy of Penn State. Luckily Fedor has reported that Lundy is on the Cavs’ radar. He doesn’t have the recruiting pedigree of the other prospects, but he’s clearly the best shooter among the five, has a solid NBA-sized body, he rebounds, doesn’t turn the ball over, has adequate handles, and has zero character concerns to speak of. There are certainly concerns about him defending on the perimeter and his inability to make plays for others, but those could be mitigated if he’s in a situation such as the Cavs where Tower City can make up for his defense and his offensive role can be limited to strictly finishing plays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT8F3zFpQic
The other prospect that should receive a hard look is Keyontae Johnson of Kansas State via Florida. He’s a similar prospect to Lundy in that he can fill up the bucket, but he also adds a little better defense and passing ability to the equation. There are three big questions about him as a prospect, two of them concern his decision-making. He is a bit turnover prone with a 15.4% turnover rate in college that got worse over his last two seasons, granted he was a victim of the COVID era interrupting college basketball. Secondly, he was accused of sexual assault last year in Florida, granted the felony charges were dismissed. As it is with Bates, the Cavs will need to do their due diligence regarding Johnson’s character concerns. Lastly, Johnson also suffered a traumatic cardiac event during a game in December of 2020, which cut short his time in Florida after an impressive start to his career there. There are clear risks with Johnson, but there’s also enough there to warrant a selection should he be available at 49.
As for Chris Livingston and Jaylen Clark, they’re less attractive prospects because of their inability to be elite shooters. Between the two, Clark is the more interesting prospect because of his defense and ability to get to the rim on offense and finish. Livingston on the other hand is clearly living on recruiting reputation without any meaningful production, but the Cavs have worked him out anyway along with Emoni Bates. If there’s any hope for Livingston, it’s the idea that John Calipari typically makes players look worse before hitting the NBA (see: Devin Booker, Jamal Murray, Immanuel Quickley among others).
What about the first round?
If Fedor’s reporting is to be believed, the Cavs are also scouting for prospects in this range of the draft. It makes sense given how many wings are projected to go in that range, and there’s also a history of the Cavs buying/trading picks to get back into the first round (Kevin Porter, Jr.). So, who matters on this list from the Cavs’ perspective? Here are the names you should remember:
Jett Howard
Kris Murray
Brice Sensabough
Dariq Whitehead (#GoDuke #TheBrotherhood)
Brandin Podziemski
Jaime Jaquez, Jr.
In this is list, you’ll find three pure shooters (Howard, Sensabough, Whitehead), while the other three aren’t the purest of shooters but have more well-rounded games with playmaking and defense (Murray, Podziemski, Jaquez, Jr.). The player that stands out among this sextet is Brandin Podziemski of Santa Clara, yes the same Santa Clara of Jalen Williams’ fame. He’s the most complete prospect of the bunch with all of the tools: rebounding, passing, defending, shooting. If he’s somehow available at the end of round one, CavsDan and Koby better move heaven and earth to try and land him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DY85Cvn9Es
If the move is to ignore defense and passing and just get the best pure jump shooter of the lot, then it’s a toss up between Brice Sensabough and Dariq Whitehead… both of these guys are dead-eye shooters that are extremely young with a lot of runway to develop other parts of their game. Defense is less of a concern with Whitehead, although he’s not a good rebounder. Sensabough can rebound but there are definitely questions about his perimeter defense. But again, prospects in this range of the draft will have warts.
The Final Word
Last year, the Cavs passed up on elite shooting (AJ Griffin) and elite defense and athleticism with two way ability (Tari Eason, Christian Braun) to take a lower upside, known quantity in Ochai Agbaji. In hindsight it appears that the Cavs may have drafted Agbaji with the Donovan Mitchell trade already set in the background, but the Cavs can’t really afford to take such one dimensional players without an elite trait. This year is another chance to swing for a real spot up shooter, or in the case of Podziemski or Keyontae Johnson, a more well-rounded talent with legit 3 and D capabilities at the wing position… Go Cavs!
LT UP!
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1671984555836817410?s=20
Would be curious to hear what was offered. Fedor mentioned yesterday he was hearing around the league that the value for JA was pretty middling.
Yup, my guess is that Portland deal was Allen for little and the non lottery frp
Middleton declined his option for 40M. I am baffled. Who is going to pay him that?
That indicates to me that Milwaukee is signing him to a longer contract with more guaranteed money at a lower per year cost.
my guess too
Crazy.
https://twitter.com/cs_mcgowan/status/1671965597821706260?s=20
I guess GS regretted that Poole extension
Remember that time Koby traded a Euroleague MVP and scoring leader for Evan Mobley’s brother who was probably going undrafted?
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1671914303643893761?s=20
Hoopsdog is usually an idiot
celtics got much better with the add of porzingis.. they are favored to get to the next several nba title series, imho, regardless of whether they keep brown (or get near equal value in a trade).. barring a lourdes type miracle with okoro, cavs are slightly better than .500 team for the next 2 years.. perhaps they can win one playoff series with jb doing his best sisyphus impersonation.. if big mobes gets on a year 3 fighter jet trajectory then perhaps the ceiling is significantly higher.. cavs playing for a title run with this crew is a fools errand..… Read more »
No way. Kristap’s contract extension will be a sign-and-retire. He’s had one healthy season in four, he shrinks in the moment, and he’s part of Boston’s injury prone or old center rotation. Plus they traded away their team leader. It’s going to be a glorious disaster. He won’t be able to stand the Boston pressure.
not a big fan of either stevens or the celtics so i will enjoy the implosion, if it occurs.. however, i will keep my prediction.. smart, gallinari (acl) and muscala for porzingis and 2 firsts is a winner, in my ignorant and uninformed opinion..
Brandin Podzeimski Agenda vindicated:
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2023/06/whats-the-best-case-scenario-for-cavs-in-2023-nba-draft.html
So the Cavs will be drafting at midnight?
Listened to Fedor’s podcast last night. He thinks the odds are low that the Cavs get back in to the first round. He thinks that the interest is real, but believes it will potentially take Cedi or Wade to make it happen, who could bring back more value later as part of a player trade.
Yeah I tend to agree. If they had a high second rounder pick, then maybe I could see it working.
Thanks for the info BW, yeah that sucks but that’s just reality of the current situation.
wade has no value whatsoever when he sits on the bench while JB takes hits off the hopium pipe.. if they are not going to play him.. move him
Will ESPN or ABC be the first to play “Hold me now” tonight?
https://twitter.com/MoreForYou_CLE/status/1671674438503260161?s=20
I wouldn’t really want to give up much for Harris. So I doubt this happens.
We probably didn’t have any ability to get into the mix with the Wiz tear down but Porzi as a third big or Brodgon as a third guard would have been fire
Yup agreed
I don’t see how he would have been a 3rd big. You’d need to send Allen out + filler to get to the contract number. Or work a sign an trade with Caris but can’t imagine anybody is interested in Caris at 20+
Good stuff here.
https://twitter.com/ESPNCleveland/status/1671546179153215493?s=20
https://twitter.com/ESPNCleveland/status/1671187931472470018?s=20
I have heard “buy into the first round” mentioned. I am not sure why any team would sell, but I am all for Dan buying as many picks as possible.
Teams sell for a variety of reasons: not enough roster spots, owners wanting some easy cash, teams not wanting guaranteed money on their books… Cavs bought the 30th pick to take KPJ years back with second rounders and a couple million in cash.
There’s teams with with a lot more picks than roster spots. Some don’t want to pay the guaranteed salaries of first rounders. They’d rather draft a second rounder and put him in a two way contract. Some just don’t see any value where they’re drafting.
Low key this is why I’m not a big fan of NOP/OKC with a billion picks. Cash it in damn
Oubre is one of those dudes that I can watch for half a season and still be on the fence as to whether I like him. Super trick or treat guy
I’m out tbh.
Good stuff. Go Cavs!
I agree Go Cavs
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1671246762277756929?s=20
DAMN CLF YOU ARE ALREADY IN “ MID SEASON “ FORM —- GREAT STUFF —— COUNT ME IN ON “ ROLLING THE DICE “ ON BATES OR JOHNSON IF THEY STAY AT 49th SPOT ——IF THEY MOVE UP I LIKE EITHER SENSIBAUGH OR MURRAY
I would not be mad about any of those choices at their given spots.
I don’t hate seth lundy. Nice J decent d and if he cleans up his d footwork could be even better.
I think he should be the pick @ 49 just based on his shooting.
Great stuff, Chris. Consider me skeptical on Podziemski. He’s very slow and unathletic. He’s a fantastic shooter and you can see how much of Steph’s game he’s copied. He’s just very predictable. If he’s going right he’s gonna pull up, weird for a lefty but he’s got great shooting stroke when he moves that way. If he’s going left he’s driving for the long finish or the scoop oop. There’s just zero there defensively. This guy ain’t Desmond Bane.
Thanks Nate! Would disagree with your characterization of him as slow and unathletic. He tested well at the combine, I would characterize him as at least an average athlete, probably above average. As for his defense, he posted a 4% stock rate which is a solid number relative to a lot of other prospects, and even better considering he was the PG/primary offensive option for his team this past year. Desmond Bane had a lower stock rate, less usage, lower rebound rate, lower assist rate and a slightly higher TS%… I think he compares favorably to him especially relative to… Read more »
Ironically your Bane comp is even more spot on cuz the bigger problem with Podz is that he’s short for a wing with t-rex arms LMFAOOO