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Live Thread: Cavs @ Magic
2024-01-22Happy Monday, Cavs fans. The wine and gold travel to Orlando tonight and takes on a 23-20 Magic squad. With their size, The Magic aren’t a great match-up for the Cavs, but the Cavs have been taking care of business against .500 teams, so we’ll see what happens.
For Cleveland, LeVert is questionable, and Mobley, Garland, and, Jerome are out.
Go Cavs!
LT up for tonight
LT?
Never mind. I get it.
GREEK FREAK IS GOING TO “ FEAST “ TONIGHT———- EMBIID s 70 MIGHT BE IN JEOPARDY ) SARCASM)
Maybe he can get 50 FTs?
MIGHT HAVE TO “ RETHINK “ MY 👍 ON TILLMAN —— CAREER 30% FROM 3s—-LOW 60% FROM FOUL LINE——NOT SURE WE IMPROVE—— JUST MY OPINION—-AM PROBABLY WRONG 🤪😩
Tillman stinks on offense. STINKS. He’s also a terrible finisher. No thanks.
Think fit and skill, not individual production. X is a strong rim protector/good positional defender, keeps the ball moving on offense (pretty good assist man), and a great screener like TT.
All in, that’s a skill set that would really enhance a bench unit with three shooters.
Nope.
Biyombo.
For free? Of course we should
👍👍👍👍ON MEMPHIS/ TILLMAN
Bobby Marks at ESPN has a (theoretical, unlikely) deal with us doing picks to Memphis for Xavier Tillman. I love that
Saw that Elder is with the G league tonight.
So Nance + Jones it is.
KOBY JUST MADE A CALL TO. TACKO FALL 👍🤪🍺🏀
I WILL TAKE “ELDER OR NANCE lll “ OVER JONES —— BUT KOBY NEEDS TO GO SEARCHING—— AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED — TT IS OUT OF THE PICTURE // MIGHT SOUND HARSH// BLUNT BUT HE MADE HIS DECISION— CAVS NOW HAVE TO MAKE THEIRS
DONT THANK TONIGHT S GAME WILL BE CLOSE FOR EITHER TEAM WIN ——— BUCKS COME OUT ON FIRE TO IMPRESS DOC// REVENGE LAST WEEK… OR ALL THE CHAOS// CHANGES LEAVES THEM ILL PREPARED// CONFUSED—-/HOPE IT IS THE LATTER——- EITHER WAY GREEK FREAK Will GO FOR 40+
I think we could steal one but don’t think there are any lessons for us from the next three games. Either way we are 3-3 over a tough 6 at worst.
I don’t get what the Cavs are waiting for on a C.
Pick one..Jones isn’t it. We could get a lot of Nance the youngest & elder Mobley, I guess.
Playing with only 12 (effectively) on the roster is just dumb.
the weeks leading up to the trading deadline are not a smart time to abandon assets.
What assets? We aren’t abandoning anyone. We don’t have to cut anyone. We have an open roster spot.
We have 14 rostered. Mobley & Garland are out. TT is suspended. That’s 11. Jerome hasn’t played all year. Ten. Jones is useless. Nine. And LeVert is out. Eight. Even counting CPJ, that puts us at 9 with one playable big (Allen).
It is light in a race where a game or two could impact seeding.
Further, we have next to no trade capital. We cannot trade a 1st. And given how we are playing, it would be VERY odd to trade anyone in the rotation (DG, DM, MS, EM, JA; CPJ, SM, CL, IO, DW, GN, TT).
That leaves Jerome & Jones. Who have no value. Maybe you get rid of TT, but he had low value before he was suspended. Most teams have 35-40 or so left, he is suspended for 25.
Do we have a trade exception from Rubio?
EVERYBODY has value in a trade. recall the salary matching rules.
It might just be a timing thing. They are on the road, maybe just logistics
An open roster spot in and of itself is valuable heading into the trade deadline. I’m sure they’ll fill it eventually, after the subsequent buyouts
Bucks getting 6.5 points. How much ref whining will doc do in his debut? Have a feeling we will get ref-balled tonight with Giannis and Dame shooting 40 FTs. Not super excited for the Damian Jones experience.
Teams always come out firing the game after a coach is dumped. Plus I imagine that they’ll want to make up for that last laugher. Hope the Cavs can weather that storm.
Hopefully Jones will be surrounded by enough shooting that he can just hang out under the basket and not be too much of a negative. I dunno.
FACTORY OF SADNESS MENTIONS 2 OTHER TT REPLACEMENTS—-BLAKE GRIFFIN /// DWIGHT HOWARD ——YES // NO ??
No they’re washed.
Agreed.
Biyombo is my guy.
I like Dwight. Think a big space eater 5 has some use.
CNN: Doc accepts the Bucks job.
be nice to greet him with a couple more embarrassing losses.
Reading the Athletic article they say “the embarrassing loss to the Cavs was the tipping point for Griffin’s demise.”
we’ll show ’em a couple more this week!
Good news, Pacers lost to Nugs. Knicks losing to the Nets.
couldn’t count on the Nets
Nope. Brunson flopped his way to a win.
jerk!
USA Basketball announced today that Donovan Mitchell and Jarrett Allen have both been named finalists for the 2024 USA Men’s National Team Player Pool!
READ MORE: https://on.nba.com/3vFHvJG
MAYBE ( LIKE SAM MY MAN. // CPJ ) DUE TO ADVERSITY WE “ STUMBLE “ ON ANOTHER HIDDEN GEM // “ ELDER “ 👍👍
👍👍👍👍👍🙏ON “ ELDER “ GETTING THE PLAYING TIME—— HE BRINGS MORE OFFENSIVELY—- AND IS A GOOD TEAM DEFENSE PLAYER
NOT SURE DOC IS THE “ MIRACLE “ WORKER / COACH THE MEDIA PROMOTES HIM TO BE ——— THIS COULD BLOW UP ON THE BUCKS——- HOPING!!!!!!!
They’re worse defensively because they swapped Holiday for Lillard. That’s my 8,000 foot view analysis.
Who could have foreseen this?
I think Lillard is tremendously overrated.
You are not wrong. DiViCenzo & Matthews were also good defenders and gone. Beasley is not much of a defender. Crowder’s been out. Lopez is older. Middleton has been out and nursing a bum leg. He has slowed down/does not play as much.
They are worse at every spot save Giannis, and they like to have him roam.
another Haslem doofus move?
“ THE HADLEM AFFECT “ – GOOD ONE ARCH ——— I HEARD DESHAW ( WATSON ) CAN PLAY PT GD ——- MIGHT AS WELL JOIN THE BUCKS—— KEEP THE HASLEM AFFECT “ FULL THROTTLE “ 👍👍👍
I don’t think losing Griffin will impact the Bucks much.
We will miss TT with Mobes still out.
Need to play Isiah Mobley. Not sure why he never gets any run?
He’s a tweener and a mid athlete. No really great one skill.
Can’t be any worse than Damian Jones.
BUCKS FIRE THEIR COACH——- WHICH LOSS IS WORSE—— CAVS / BUCKS ??
A really interesting test case for the fire JB contingent
likely to have a big influence on next two Cavs games, and hard to say which way.
also likely to cause a medium term dip for the Bucks, who could easily find themselves behind the Cavs and Knicks.
a team tied for the second best record in the league firing the HC at midseason has to be a rare event.
the likelihood of this turning out to be a good idea is pretty slim. could easily put them into a tailspin.
The Haslem effect!
good point! did he just take control? this time Cleveland fans like what Haslem is doing!
Oh shit. Completely forgot about that. Makes so much sense now.
“Stunned, Baffled”:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10106336?dicbo=v2-vSjnlQs&hpt=ob_blogfooterold
IT IS NATIONAL PIE DAY—— “THE “ MRS NOMAD s MAKES A DELICIOUS—- STRAWBERRY- RHUBARB—— PEACH—BLUEBERRY—— ELDERBERRY—RASPBERRY————- MY FAVORITE IS WHEN SHE STILL SERVES THE OCCASIONAL “ HAIR PIE “👿👺
DID TT JUST RUIN HIS CHANCE AS A CAVS ANNOUNCER // GIG WITH BRAD D // JON MICHAEL
Oh Tristan,,,,that’s kinda not good……yikes!!!
DOES TT s CONTRACT COUNT AGAINST THE CAVS AS FAR AS ROSTER SPOT
DIDN T KNOW THAT ABOUT HARRELl —-SO I GUESS HE IS A NO ———WHERE IS “ LE” THON ( MAKER ) WHEN WE NEED HIM ——— MAYBE THE BUCKS WILL “ LEND “ US ROL “ OVER —— IT WOULD BE TO THERE ADVANTAGE 🤪
Also bad timing for the Cavs as Tristan’s contract became fully guaranteed on January 10th.
THIS COULD HURT THE CAVS IN THE UPCOMING GAMES WITH THE BUCKS 👍
really. I had TT pencilled in for about 10 min.
Yep. He was playing great team ball. Such a shame.
BIYOMBO WOULD BE A GOOD CHOICE ALSO—— HAVE FAITH IN KOBY DOING THE RIGHT THING 👍
Yeah. Whoever it is is just eating innings for like 7 games max until Evan is back.
I don’t mind giving Jones or Brobley a chance to step up either
I HAVE ALWAYS LIKED HARRELL // HIS AGGRESSIVE ATTITUDE:/ NOT SURE IF HE FITS CAVS CULTURE—— FAVORS SHOULD HAVE PLAYED WITH SPIDA // JAZZ
Harrell is recovering from blowing out his knee.
Current list if FA centers.
Biyombo is pick of the litter for me.
Khem Birch is ok.
Kai Jones or Dwight Howard or Harrell
AGREE ARCH —-OPEN UP ROSTER SPOT——HELL BY THE TIME TT WOULD COME BACK // INTO PLAYING SHAPE// SEASON WOULD BE PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING OVER——— BRING BACK // SUIT UP ANDY “ WILD THING” 👍🤪
WOW BUMMER NEWS ABOUT TT —- ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE BEEN RIDING THIS RECENT POSITIVE HIGH—- TT HAS REALLY HELP SOLIDIFY THAT 2nd GROUP——- SO DO WE REPLACE HIM WITH ELDER OR GO FIND ANOTHER BIG—- JONES IS NOT THE ANSWER
I have a feeling they might cut him now.
Are we even really going to have / need a backup 5 when Evan is back? I’m thinking not.
TT suspended for 25 games 🤦♂️
Cavaliers center Tristan Thompson has been suspended for 25 games by the NBA, the league announced today in a press release (Twitter link).
According to the NBA, Thompson violated the terms of the league’s anti-drug program by testing positive for ibutamoren and SARM LGD-4033. Both drugs are on the list of prohibited substances in the NBA’s Collective Bargaining Agreement, under the “steroids and performance enhancing drugs” section.
Well, that explains his better form this year….
Go get Bismack Biyambo. He is a FA..
Wow, what a bummer. Well, now we know how he was doing it. DJones is terrible. Can we get someone on a 10-day? At this point I’d say play Mobley, hope Evan can come back soon and play more with separate minutes for JA and Evan, unless Koby can work some magic and pick up someone else.
I think I agree. I don’t love Brobley long term but think would give him run against the Bucks just to see.
Not sure if worried about Rozier on Miami or not.
Kind of not
same. BFD.
Rozier, 29, 23.2 ppg, 3.9 reb, and 6.6 dimes.
Lowey, 37, 8.2, 3.5, 4.0.
Lowry is smarter & might still be a better defender, but that is a big gap in productivity. Miami needed scoring & they got it. They got better.
Yeah I think for me question is whether Terry is a difference maker or just an innings eater at PG that fills the aforementioned productivity gap.
Lowry was not very productive, at all. He has logged over 1,000 minutes. So he has been a available. But 8/3.5/4 in 28 mpg just isn’t very productive. The splits are OK-ish: 42.6/38.5 for a 58.2 TS%.
Rozier is playing 35.8 mpg and giving you 23.2/3.9/6.6 on 45.9/35.8 for a 57.4 TS%.
Rozier, Herro, Butler, and Bam is 4/5ths of a very good 5. Jovic is nada.
For comparison:
A: 28.3 mpg, 8.2/3.5/4.0, 42.6/38.5, 58.2 TS.
B: 16.5 mpg, 7.3/2.8/3.3, 51.3/33.3, 55.9 TS.
A makes over $29 mil a year. B is a two way.
SI on Sam the Man:
https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/how-sam-merrill-has-helped-evolve-cleveland-cavaliers-offense
Embiid also had 21 FTs. Not as impressive.
Gotta admit I shrugged when I saw his score. Never gonna happen in playoffs.
I mean, of course if a team sees an avenue for scoring in any particular game, push it. But if you’re a playoff-bound team and you know your main guy can score plenty, you should be providing opportunities for others to develop. That’s the main reason I get a little uncomfortable when Cavs get Spida iso heavy.
SAM MY MAN HAS A “ LITTLE MARK PRICE “ IN HIM ………… AND YES RAOUL ( ON EMONI GOING INTO THE STANDS ) I WOULD HAVE/ AND STILL WOULD HAVE TODAY 💪🍺🤪
What run they are on! Mitchell playing so well. So much shooting!
They have benefitted from 2nd nights a couple of times now, but still.
FearTheSword located some limited film of the Charge ruckus:
https://www.fearthesword.com/2024/1/22/24047093/cleveland-cavaliers-emoni-bates-suspended-two-games-for-entering-stands-after-cleveland-charge-game
Suggested Bench name: The New Herculoids !
Sam led in points and minutes!
Damian Jones 2/3, 1/2 on threeballs. Break up the Cavs!
MY INITIAL POST RIGHT AT THE START WAS EMONI BEING SUSPENDED FOR 2 GAMES ( GOING INTO STANDS ) -ANYONE HEAR ANYMORE ON THIS
Couple reports have “fans jawing at the Charge”.
Going into the stands is pretty dumb, but as dumb stuff + two game suspensions go, I can live with this, not least because is is something that me or the NOMAD might have done when we were that age.
Part of the reason the plan was basically to redshirt him for two years was to basically teach him to be a pro. He will learn from it.
EMBIID “ LITERALLY FLEXING HIS MUSCLES 💪 “ —— LETTING WEMBY KNOW WHO IS STILL THE BEST
SO IF DG /CAVS DONT HAVE ALL THE INJURIES WOULD JB EVER GIVEN SAM MY MAN A CHANCE/ MINUTES ———- I AM THINKING NOT ——- POSSIBLY JB HAS ADJUSTED HIS “ TIGHT LEASH—-LIMITED ROTATION “ —-WE SHALL SEE
Dude is like 44, he was always gonna grow and change.
also, the bench is a LOT better than previous years.
Go Cavs!!! Wooot!
JB – please please please keep playing Sam Merrill 15-20 mins when this team returns to full health!!
hard to sit the leading scorer!
Sorry I couldn’t enjoy game with you. Super great win though. Live the tear they’re on.