Quick Takes/Offseason Open Thread (or, Almost There)
2024-08-20Good afternoon/evening CtB!
We’re now in the depths of the NBA offseason with about another six weeks before guys report to training camp. Cavs slop continues to trickle in, here’s the latest…
Tower City secured through the rest of the decade
Koby Altman has secured the services of Jarrett Allen for the rest of his years in his 20s, with a three year, $90 million extension that expires at the 2029-30 season. The extension gives Allen top 12-15 NBA center money for the foreseeable future, which enhances Allen’s trade value as a player who’s still relatively young, cost controlled, and shown some flashes of top five play over the course of his career.
There was zero downside for the Cavs doing this deal, and at least two upsides. First, it shows some loyalty and appreciation for Jarrett Allen’s work. He’s paid nearly nine figures and still re-enters free agency for his age 31 season, so he could still see another big payday before his playing days are over. For the Cavs, the contract keeps Allen as an attractive trade chip as well as a hedge against the first round pick still owed to the Utah Jazz in 2029. Whether you’re a Cavs fan who loves Allen or a Cavs fan that wants to see Center Mobley, this deal should be seen as a win with no downsides.
Cavs Sign South Sudan Olympian JT Thor
One of the players who used the Paris Olympics as a showcase for a NBA contract was JT Thor of South Sudan, who signed a two way deal with the Cavs for the upcoming season. After an initially interesting rookie year for the Charlotte Hornets in 2021-22, Thor got buried in the depth chart and eventually let go. For South Sudan, Thor was able to flash a versatile skillset against Team USA enough so that it seemed inevitable that a team would try to sign him. The Cavs are able to offer ample opportunity at the backup power forward position given Dean Wade’s troubles staying healthy and Georges Niang’s inability to stay on the floor against good teams. For Thor, it’s the first time in his NBA career he will play for a competent franchise surrounded by good players. If he can figure out how to be a switchy, stretch four, there’s a place for him on this team.
From the Commentariat
There was some Commentariat conversation surrounding Craig Porter Jr. and rookie Darius Brown from the Cavs’ Summer League squad. To answer the two questions regarding their contract statuses, Brown signed an Exhibit 10 deal with the Cavs, so his deal will only count if he’s signed to the roster after camp. CPJ is signed for at least two more seasons, with guaranteed money this season. After the 2025-26 season, there’s a club option on his contract before he hits free agency. IMHO CPJ’s deal isn’t prohibitive to opening up a roster spot if they so chose. Will there be a camp battle for the third string PG position? What about the ghost of Ty Jerome?? Stay tuned…
GOT EM!
Summers almost over TT just FYI😂😂 https://t.co/L6bk3Vk7Cq
— Donovan Mitchell (@spidadmitchell) August 16, 2024
the Guards have one of the best bullpens in the history of baseball — one could easily make the case for best ever.
the starters are so-so, although Joey Cantillo might have already turned the corner and become an ace.
given the above, they should give some thought to bullpen games in the playoffs. or, maybe, using Cantillo as a lefty opener in some games.
nice rebound by guards against tampa bay, after dropping the first 2 games.. splitting the series was huge..
Hope y’all are having a nice summer. I noticed this article today about the Celtics and salaries. I’m not an NBA salary guy, but I’d be interested in reading something comparing the salary outlook of the Cavs vs. the Celtics. The Celtics seem to have spent a lot of money on their core. Like a lot.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10135338-nba-rumors-celtics-massive-contracts-caused-rift-team-going-up-for-sale
WOW AMAZING STORY RAOUL ——- THANKS 🙏 FOR SHARING
SON WAS STILL IN COLLEGE WHEN THEY STARTED WORKING ON THE NELSONVILLE BYPASS—— HAS IT HURT BUSINESS THERE—- DID YOU GET TO WATCH JOE BURROWS IN HIGH SCHOOL— WAS FROM THAT AREA
I recall asking a guy who played with Joe if they ever punted. He replied that they never had a fourth down.
HOW MANY BROWNS PLAYERS/ COACHES ARE READY TO JUMP SHIP
REALLY.—- HOW FAR AWAY RAOUL ——MY 1 SON WENT TO HOCKING COLLEGE/ NELSONVILLE —- WE MADE SOME FRIENDS WHILE HE WAS THERE— STAYING AT THERE CABIN 👍🍺🍷👿👺
about 15 miles past Nelsonville.
the entire southeast quarter of Ohio is really beautiful. If you are coming from NE Ohio, consider getting off I-77 at Ohio 78, the “Rim of the World” route to Nelsonville.
GREAT ADVICE PATRICK—— NOT GOING TO WASTE A BEAUTIFUL DAY AGONIZING WATCHING THE “ FROWN- CLOWN- BROWNS———— WILL SPEND THIS GORGEOUS DAY WITH THE BEAUTIFUL “THE “ MRS NOMAD—- GOING DOWN TO HOCKING HILLS COUNTRY FOR A FEW DAYS 👍🍺🍷😈👺
my backyard!
Life is short. For your own happiness and health, ignore the Browns, at least until November. On Sunday afternoons, go for a hike or ride a bike or something else that does not involve your couch or recliner. Your body and your mind will thank you. If that team still has a pulse then, hop on board as it gets chillier out. I will confess that I do not study salary caps or salaries. With Ice signed to 3 yrs, and setting trades aside, which important piece becomes the next decision? Caris w 2 yrs left? Time for new coaching… Read more »
good advice — we are half way through five years of Watson. Pity that the owner ruined the Miles Garrett era with this colossal blunder.
for those gripping about the Cavs not making any major moves, remember that about half the moves turn out to be bad. the Browns would have been at least a marginal contender every year without the disastrous trade.
just be glad that Dan is a lot smarter than Jimmy.
ICE RESIGNS 3yr/ 38 MILLION—— I CAN LIVE WITH THAT
me too. this is about what I thought would happen.
Yas!!!! Eminently fair and priced to move if need be
we are in good shape for the coming season and every non-max rotation player is on a very tradable deal (except Niang I guess)
yay!
patiently waiting for the videos of the super-perv in action.. i am sure the browns would pay tens of millions of $USD for a deep-fake that would stand up in court.. we are 6 days out from the 51 QB rating from the worst veteran QB in the league (with 2nd highest salary), and the sports media is still having tons of fun with the has-lost-what?-son parade of incompetence.. browns lose tomorrow.. not sure when they win again.. not sure who they can beat.. stefanski must be smoking the recreational weed.. this is NOT a very good football team (and,… Read more »
just the owner’s ego
This team IS a good team, Buck, but it has a Lake Erie-sized problem. The trade for Watson has told the fan base what the team’s leadership values, and we are paying for it. It was a desperation move to shoehorn a player from a troubled situation with the most idealized vision for the future–one that alienates and denigrates its female fan base and sold all of us an oft-injured, mentally fragile, criminally troubled quarterback who has played exactly one good quarter of football in the past two-plus years. I am with you that the coaching staff foolishly decided to… Read more »
chrisK bro.. we are mostly in agreement.. thx for adding info i was unaware of, and your keen insights.. next time browns see the playoffs is in the 2030s.. see you all there.. for those who will still be looking down on the grass.. very glad has-lost is not an engineer/construction guy.. his bridges would be the ones that implode.. no shortcuts to excellence (and structural integrity of both physical objects and organization) exist..
probably Jimmy was behind Dorsey and the eggs.
glad those brownies proved me wrong.. they still need to ditch the QB and start over.. how trevor lawrence played that poorly i will never know.. another #1 bust ?
THE VERY HOT CELEB “ THE “ MRS NOMAD HAS A BIG TIME CRUSH ON NOMAD 👍👍——45 yrs AND COUNTING 👍👍
Jenn Tran + Max Strus??
ha-ha. wannabe celeb, would do anything to get her name in the media.
GREAT TO SEE LANE GET HIS CONFIDENCE/ HITTING STROKE BACK ——- COULD BE HUGE FOR THE GAURDS 👍
the other supposedly “Cleveland disastrous trade” target, Lane Thomas (batting around .400 lately), is now the all time leader in the rather obscure category of “multiple two run infield single” in a game:
https://www.cleveland.com/guardians/2024/09/suddenly-streaking-outfielder-climbs-the-mlb-rarity-index-guardians-breakfast.html
Charge a Go-Go: https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/cleveland-cavaliers-g-league-team-acquires-washington-wizards-player-trade
CLF 👍🙏——-“ WHO DEY “ HAS MY FAN SUPPORT——— ALSO I BOUGHT STOCK IN THE PACKERS—( WHEN THEY WENT PUBLIC) A FEW YEARS BACK——-SO “ BACK THE PACK “ 👍🍺🏈
screw the Packers. their best known players in the last third of a century are Brett Favre and Aaron Rogers who are both major dirtballs.
@ NOMAD, the rumors are Watson’s contract is airtight and that the Browns possibly covered up this incident… so sounds like the Browns knew about this already and still signed him to that contract and are still stuck with it.
hope not.
https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2024/9/11/24241481/deshaun-watson-contract-details-allegations-browns-guarantees-void
on ytube – Chris Broussard – Has the Collapse of Deshaun Watson’s Public Image Hurt Him Mentally?..
on ytube – “Dan Patrick Rips Deshaun Watson: ‘He Looks Like a Zombie Out There'”
on ytube – Deshaun Watson’s DISASTROUS Start: Is the Browns Trade the WORST in NFL History? | Inside Coverage – Yahoo ! Sports
on ytube – “REACTION: Dan Orlovsky and Stephen A Smith GO OFF On Deshaun Watson”
yeah, these two dummies finally figured out what everyone in Cleveland knew the day of the trade.
we need the world laughing en masse at CLE, again, like we need a sick pervert being the face of the franchise.. for the next 20 years.. and people are laughing their asses off.. it’s a joke, raoul.. just sharing the good humor
Everyone except Jimmy Haslam.
on ytube – “Deshaun Watson is Radioactive And The Browns Can’t Do Anything About It l BEN MALLER SHOW”.. my, my, my..
“ PAINTING ONESELF INTO A CORNER WITH LAND MINES “. EPIC BUCKAROO 👍👍👍
thx NOMAD bro.. you like the “Has-Lost” reference as well ?
on ytube – “Colin Cowherd: Browns Should Have Picked Baker Mayfield Over ‘Creepy’ Deshaun Watson”.. great media exposure for the frowns and the 216..
on ytube – Deshaun Watson is an all-around ‘disaster’ for Browns | Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz | NBC Sports
jimmy has-lost is the gift that keeps on giving to the media.. and they are all having a heck of a time running with this story.. once grand franchise destroying its reputation and legacy by paying record guaranteed cash for 5 years to an over-the-hill flash-in-the pan mentally ill sexual deviant, while losing priceless 1st round draft picks, and destroying team solidarity for years.. it’s called painting oneself into a corner with land-mines..
hate to ruin your day, but the Browns were in the playoffs last year
RAOUL HOPE YOU ARE ENJOYING YOUR BIRTHDAY 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
TOO BAD / SAD WATSON CANT GENERATE AN OFFENSE AS MUCH AS HE HAS GENERATED SPORTS / MEDIA TALK SHOW s 🤮😡
on ytube – “Dan Hanzus & Marc Sessler on the Demise of Deshaun Watson as an NFL QB | The Rich Eisen Show” – ahh yes.. betting the franchise on a known mentally ill psychopath..
Rob Parker (and Chris Broussard)- Cleveland Browns Need to Cut Deshaun Watson Today
Fox Sports Radio
NEW ALLEGATION s FROM HOUSTON WOMAN AGAINST WATSON—- IF TRUE / FOUND GUILTY— THIS WOULD/ COULD POSSIBLY VOID HIS CONTRACT CORRECT——- “ FROWN – CLOWNS- RENOWNED “ FOR EFFING UP 🤮
that would be great, but I highly doubt it.