Live Thread: Cavs vs Suns 2025-01-20 89 By Nate Smith Happy MLK Day, Cavs fans! Cleveland takes on the Phoenix Suns but are a little gimpy with Ice, Mobes, and LeVert on the injury list. Meanwhile, the Suns are missing Nurkic. Go Cavs! Live Thread: Cavs @ T’Wolves
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Now who will take Beals contract and which team will Beal approve a trade to?
AGREED PATRICK👍
Hail to CC Sabathia!! First timer. And to Tom Hamilton
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Neil Paine’s eRAPTOR gives Johnson a -1.1 defensive rating. LeVert +1.0, Wade +2.0, Okoro +1.0, Niang -0.6, Tyson -1.2.
The Cavs have the #1 offensive rating, the #1 2-point %, and the #1 3-point % in the league, scoring 122 points per game. They’re also ranked 22nd in opponent 3-point %.
If the team is looking to upgrade anywhere, it should be on defense.
Herb Jones should be their top target.
Especially since it looks like Okoro’s shoulder injury is more than just a minor ding – no timetable right now for his return. So that has some impact on their defensive options against 2s & 3s.
Yup, rebounding specifically.
NETS HAVE LEVERAGE—- GOING TO GET MORE THAN HIS WORTH —- CAN SEE OKC USING THEIR VAST DRAFT PICKS TO GET HIM —— THINK 2-3 YRS FROM NOW TYSON WILL BE A KEY CONTRIBUTOR —— EMONI ( MICRO WAVE SCORER ) WILL BE HIS TICKET—— “ MORE THOR “ UNDER PERFORMED LAST NIGHT—— KA PROBABLY WAITING TO SEE WHAT IS THERE ON BUYOUTS
yup, agreed. Too many other needy teams with more assets than the Cavs are willing to part.
Too much smoke for me to ignore, and OKC needs bigs
I am in favor of NOT swinging a deal, although this might prove to be a mistake. The Nets are asking for a lot
OKC won’t do it. They have to pay SGA and Jalen Williams. They can’t take on Cam’s contract.
Still wracking my brain to figure out if cam johnson is #1 actually gettable…which I doubt. And #2 if messing with the chemistry AND risking the potential championship window of 3 to 4 years is worth it. Tyson might actually have panned out. Luckily he has time to develop and get good coaching. Is Emoni Bates nothing or something? I have no idea but if he can be a microwave that’s a cheaper controllable asset. Is CPJ just on this team for nothing? Cuz you know who else plays with a slow step and is sneaky good finishing at the… Read more »
No way Cam Johnson is worth Tyson AND a first round pick, Pacers got Siakam for a wind and a song and he’s clearly a superior player to Johnson, no shade I like Cam.
Siakam was a totally different situation. Pending free agent looking for a new $200 mil contract. Cam is cost controlled for two more years and very good for his productivity while he’s having the best season of his career scoring wise. The cavs would need to give up Niang plus Okoro, and Tyson a 3031 first and possibly CPJ. Or Strus or LeVert instead of Ice and Niang. Of those I imagine LeVert is the most enticing option for Brooklyn to give them more cap room next year. Other teams have more assets, but the Cavs may have some leverage… Read more »
Wade needed to backup 4/5, not redundant
Agreed. Brooklyn is just going to want a lot. Johnson is one of the 10 best shooters in the NBA and top five at his size.
Wade should not be traded under almost any circumstance LMFAO
Nothing you said changes the fact Masai Ujuri got played like a punk and is a massive FRAUD and as such we should be calling Brooklyns bluff.
We are a touch unbalanced, roster wise, in my view.
PG/Combo Guard: DG, Spida, Jerome, CPJ
SG/small wing: Strus, LeVert, Okoro, Merrill, Tyson
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Big wing/combo F/forward: Wade, Niang
Bigs: Allen, Mobley, TT
We are only carrying 14. Our 2 ways are all in big (Thor) or big wing/forward (Bates, Travers) territory. But even so, I’d feel mor comfortable with one less guy in the PG/combo G/small wing group and one more in the big wing/F/big bucket.
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Well, they scored TD’s on their first 4 possessions, with Howard being almost freaking perfect and the D clamping down. And no 1st half penalties.
Things got a little sloppy/conservative after the 4th down stop. Howard missed Tate for a TD, missed Smith in 3rd later. We got a little conservative offensively. Penalties on D and ND made some plays. Got interesting late.
But OH-IO all the way. They could have folded after the UM loss, but went 180 the other way.
Somebody should tell ESPN this is Ohio State’s 9th National Title, not 7th:
https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2023-01-09/college-football-teams-most-national-championships
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Happy birthday Dan Gilbert!
Great win for the Cavs without Mobely, Caris, & Ice.
Dear Ohio State:
They are running QB up the middle every time. Get another DL up there or blitz the A gap. No adjustment at all from OSU. Looks like a Michigan game, coaching wise.
PISTONS BEAT ROCKETS—-KA / JB BOTH IN THE RUNNING/ TALK FOR COY
Outrebounded HOU 52-39. Is that based just on lots of missed shots, or rockets frontcourt not that great defensively?
Rockets are the best rebounding team in the NBA, and are a top 5 defense… so that’s a pretty good win for Detroit, they’re built similarly rosterwise, bunch of insane athletes their coaches are getting to play hard on defense.
Watching the replay. A shame the owner can’t fire himself for his part in the suns🤮 TT really making those screens uncomfortable lol
I’m sure extra special for Dan Gilbert who was only owner not to endorse him
THE OKC GAME PISSED HIM / OFF / MOTIVATED HIM !!!
IS THERE ANYONE ON THE SUNs YOU MIGHT WANT—— HOW ABOUT ROYCE NEAL ??
And only 22 min for JA, 19 for Dean, 25 for Darius. Will TT be able to recover from 26 minutes?
Mirror mirror time for Durant: extended minutes against Tristan and Georges (in both halves) and did not go to town.
Yesh I was wondering who would guard him and assumed Dean would have to take the load with Mobley out, but I guess it wasn’t so crucial.
So, Donovan in his last 3 games against anyone other than OKC: 35, 36, 33.
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Go Buckeyes!
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Looks like Booker and Durant took off immediately at game’s end. Classy
Why is bud challenging down 30?
It was a case of determining how the Cavs were going to turn the ball over. Either TT threw it out of bounds or TT gets two free throws.
We’ve got the zoo crew
This game is over!
Wonder if this game gets bud fired. Suns look hapless.
The Suns should blow it up.
KD isn’t a cancer, but diabetes maybe?
I did chuckle.
TT getting a lot of run
Does anyone else love KA challenging calls up 27?
Jerome got him in the hand. Don’t think we will win this challenge.
Oh wow. Good to see they overturned it.
When was the last time a team was down 23 despite shooting better from the field and from 3? This seems rare
Haha extraordinarily rare. The suns are a rare collection of lazy. All they need is James Harden and Ant Edwards to fill out the all time laziest defensive starting roation
KD is one of the most overrated players ever. He is a fantastic scorer, but does not do much else. And kind of kills any joy from the team and ability for the coach to hild him accountable. Then runs away.
He’s so middle-school to me.
Totally. He took the chasing rings on a super team thing to it’s awful conclusion before the last CBA.
and, …., he uses burner phones to good rap himself
Box score is puzzling. Cavs shooting worse but have 20 more shots taken and are up 23! O rebounds and turnovers the diff. Bully ball?
Another game with only 5 TOs entering garbage time.
Pistons beat the Rockets
B2B treys from Mitch
SPIDA!!!
This game getting sloppy
I wondered what the reason was. :D
MINIVAN!!!
Sloppy
Close out the quarter
The sun’s only offense is flopping.
I just hope Booker is okay after that flop!
Was that really goaltending?
The defense that quarter was top notch.
Loving the Tyson mins. Keep Donovan’s to a minimum if possible. JT putting in the defensive effort!
Garland on a heater.
DG3!
Tyson! Big shot
Nice work Tyson!
Suns flopping like crazy
Garland from Lorain
Nice defensive stretch
Like the long rotation.
B2B goaltender on the Suns
A little sloppy
TT getting some run
Oh dang. Working today… had no clue there was an early start time.
Man. Richards looks a lot like one of the Morris brothers
Durant gets a gift to start the game.