The Wood Shop: Kyrie Can’t Run The Pick and Roll
2016-03-03When I think of a wood shop, I think of a place people go to contemplate things. Wood working happens in them for sure, but it’s really just a convenient hobby. It takes a long time to complete even a small piece of wood work, which means many trips to the shop to really examine the intricacies of life. This article is part of a continuing series where I take some aspect of this Cavalier team into the wood shop and hang out with it for a thousand or so words. My own personal Cavs Wood Shop
“Kyrie Irving can’t run a pick and roll.” There, I said it.
I expect a lot of Cav fans wouldn’t agree with that statement. After all, the foundations of a good pick and roll play are a guy who can keep the dribble alive while being a threat to knock down a shot or get a layup, and a man who can roll to the rim, catch the ball, and finish.
Everyone knows Kyrie is one of the best dribblers the league has ever seen. His in-game dribbling is better than 99% of peoples’ dribbling in their driveway, or, if talking about NBA players, in their private gyms. He’s also a career 38% 3-point shooter, although he’s shooting just 30.9% this season. And, he can make a layup from any angle using either hand.
Kyrie’s primary pick and roll partner is Tristan Thompson. Thompson is in the 92nd percentile for roll men in the pick and roll among guys who have played at least 41 games and use at least 15% of their possessions going to the rim. He’s behind only Hassan Whiteside and DeAndre Jordan using that criteria. That’s amazing company. Thompson averages 1.30 points every time he catches the ball as the dive man.
Naturally, one would assume that Kyrie is helping TT’s numbers to a degree, since he has shared a decent amount of minutes with him (about 18.5 a night). That just isn’t the case though. Irving puts up just 4.1 assists/36 with Thompson on the floor. Matthew Dellavedova shares the court with Canadian TNT for 16 minutes a night. He gets 7.1 assists/36 with him on the court.
To make the case that Irving hasn’t helped contribute to TT’s rolling numbers even more clear, just look at how often TT gets passes directly from Irving and Delly. He receives just 15.5% of his touches from Irving; Irving gets just .3 assists a game from him. He gets 26.7% of his touches from Dellavedova; Delly gets .8 assists a game from the Canadian.
It’s also easy to say “Kyrie may not be getting assists in pick and roll plays, but he’s finishing them.” However, that statement is wrong.
Kyrie not only fails to get TT and other guys points out of the pick and roll, he fails to get himself points out of it. He’s in the 81st percentile for pick and roll ball handlers. There are over 20 guys ahead of him, when setting the data to include only guys who have played over 20 games and use at least 15% of their possessions handling the ball in pick and roll situations.
Kyrie gets just .90 points per pick and roll play. Darren Collison and Ramon Sessions, both back up point guards, get nearly the same amount of points per possession. That number is more even more disturbing considering that almost 46% of Irving’s possessions use a screener. Collison and Sessions both use screens less than 40% of their touches.
The Perfect Pick and Roll
Before diving deeper into Irving’s pick and roll issues, let’s look at a video of one of the best pick and roll teams the NBA has ever seen: Steve Nash and Amar’e Stoudemire.
Since this piece is about Kyrie’s struggles to use screens, I want focus on what Steve Nash does in the pick and roll with Amar’e. If you watch Nash, three principals become clear:
- Put the opposing defenders in constant decision making mode. Nash makes sure that there is no simple decision when defending him coming off of a screen. He dribbles in a way where there is always an open passing lane or path to the rim. This keeps help defenders from committing to him or the roll man. Defenses get put in limbo.
- Use the screen. Don’t dilly dally. When a guy sets a screen for you, use it.
- Give the play time to unfold. Don’t sprint to the hoop, don’t dribble like you’re in quick sand.
These three rules are clearly an over simplification of what good pick and roll ball handlers do, but they provide a good baseline from which to evaluate Kyrie.
Snaking the Roll Man
One of Kyrie’s bad habits in the pick and roll is that he snakes the roll man. Snaking the roll man is when a guard comes off a screen one direction and then cuts back the opposite direction in the path of the man rolling to the rim. To quote the great Justin Bieber: “First you wanna go left and you want to turn right.”
In the above play, Kyrie goes right and then left. This may not seem like a big deal on first glance, but it is. When Kyrie veers back to the left, TT can’t roll to the rim. Well, he could, but he would have to bulldoze Kyrie, which would probably result in a turnover. That’s not a good outcome. By eliminating TT’s path to the rim, he makes the Thunder’s decision on defense very easy. They just have to stop him. It’s as easily said, as done. Steven Adams rotates over and stays on Kyrie, and Westbrook comes back to Kyrie, since he doesn’t have to bump TT to prevent a lob. Kyrie just isn’t putting defenders in limbo by snaking TT.
In the above clip, Kyrie again snakes TT. It’s disappointing because TT sets a solid screen on Garret Temple, which gives Kyrie some room to work. Marcin Gortat is on an island against him. If Irving hadn’t cut him off, Tristan would have had an easy path to the basket, especially if Irving had slowed his dribbling down to keep his original defender on his back. Since that isn’t the case, three Wizards simply load up on an Irving layup attempt. It doesn’t end well.
In this final example, Irving snakes TT, and then sprints to the hoop. All five Kings end up playing defense on him at some point during the possession, and he loses his dribble out of bounds. In theory, Kyrie executed the play poorly, but he did open up three different shooters from beyond the arc. That doesn’t matter though, because he was set on scoring rather than getting someone else an easy look. His score first mentality is known around the league and contributes to teams crashing down when he drives. He’s averaging just 4.4 assists a game this year.
Just Use the Freaking Screen
The other issue with Kyrie’s pick and roll play is that he doesn’t know how to use a screen. One of the big things I learned growing up as a larger basketball player was that the ball handler has to use your screen. You can’t screen a guy if the ball handler doesn’t help you. When watching Steve Nash and Amar’e play, you notice that Nash runs his defender into Amar’e to create the space he needs to work. Amar’e doesn’t step into Nash’s defender.
In the play below, Tristan is trying to set a screen on Reggie Jackson.
As TT stands there, Kyrie dribbles to the left away from him. It is then quite quite clear that Irving is getting ready to use a screen. Reggie knows it, I know it, and the entire arena knows it. Naturally, Reggie anticipates Irving’s actions. As Irving goes around TT, he takes a soft angle that gives Reggie space to go around the screen. TT even bounces his hips out to create a little more separation. Despite that, Reggie is still able to follow Irving and bother his shot from behind. Irving makes it, but it was a harder shot than it needed to be.
In the video below, count how many times Tristan tries to give Kyrie a screen.
I counted three times. As Kyrie crosses the half-court line, TT is ready with a screen to his right. Kyrie goes behind his back the other direction instead. TT then back pedals a little and sets a pick for Kyrie to go around on his left side. Kyrie uses it but then backs out. At that point, TT gives up, stands still, and actually pats his head in frustration. He must have a three screen limit or something. Each time Irving didn’t drive around the pick, Washington was able to prepare for penetration a little more. Irving somehow lucks out and scores at the rack, even though three Wizards were within a one-step of contesting his shot.
Timing is Everything
The last issue to bring up with Irving’s pick and roll play is that he lacks timing. Irving moves at a break neck pace when he comes off of screens. This causes two problems. First off, he doesn’t give the guy rolling to the hoop time to roll or to create a good passing angle. Secondly, Irving’s constant need to go fast causes him to snake the roll guy. Snaking the screener is often the path of least resistance, as defenders aren’t expecting it.
Timing is probably the most important part of the pick and roll game. Look at Delly. He’s a guy who isn’t an amazing dribbler, yet he is one of the better pick and roll players on the Cavs. Look at the timing he employs to get Timofey Mozgov an oop in the video below.
Delly uses a little hesitation dribble while Gortat and his original defender are focused on him to allow Mozgov time to get to the rim for an oop. He has an easy pass because Gortat is still focused on him driving to the hoop, not feeding the big man. Delly’s pace hints that he might go for his own shot still. If he had gone as fast as he could, Gortat and his original defender would have been contesting him at the rim, and Mozgov would have been behind the play.
Solutions
There isn’t an obvious solution to Kyrie’s pick and roll woes aside from strapping him to a chair, taping his eyes open Clockwork Orange style, and making him watch Steve Nash use screens. However, that will never happen. It’s also hard to fix Kyrie’s issues, because a lot of times his bad habits still result in him getting points. He scored in two of the five fundamentally flawed plays I used as examples.
Perhaps Tyronn Lue will elect to let Irving run even more isolation plays instead. He is scoring 1.01 points per isolation possession, which is a top ten number for guards, and he’s only going iso on 14.4% of his touches. While I’m not the biggest fan of isolation play, at this point I’d welcome it. It sucks watching Irving infuriate teammates as they try to guess how they can roll to the rim when screening for him.
Finally, I want to say that the reason I harp on Kyrie today is because he has the tools to be one of the best pick and roll players the game has ever seen. He’s got handles, at the rim shot making abilities, great passing skills, and a beautiful stroke. He’s just not utilizing his skills correctly. Yet, he is somehow still in the top 25% of the league as far as pick and roll ball handlers go. The league better watch out if Irving figures out how to use a screen.
…adding either “in Miami” or “by trading Kyrie” at the end of the fortune. /s
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hgtso3w
If that was available at the deadline (and I don’t think it was) you definitely think long and hard about it. Its a complete win now move, but it would have significantly increased their odds of winning the championship this year.
I was a huge advocate for trying to get Paul from the Pelicans (hornets) during LBJ’s first stint. I don’t know why we never seemed to make a run at him. He would have been a great fit with Lebron early in his career.
Today was a really silly day in Cavs media world. Can we just learn to ignore LeBron? His tweets are koans. They mean nothing. I think he’s just trolling the media.
It would be hilarious if every other day he literally just tweeted out something from a fortune cookie.
WHAT IS MORE SUFFERING FOR US ——WHEN THE CAVS DON’T PLAY……OR WHEN THEY PLAY AND THEY DON’T COMPETE
Tony Parker looks nearly unplayable for the Spurs. Can not cover anybody.
WAS SAHA A BLATT MAN—REAL REASON FOR THE FIRING OF BLATT
SASHA WHO —-HE IS PROBABLY WONDERING ALSO WHY THEY CHOSE HIM OVER PERKINS
Great article, thanks for the insight.
BTW everyone would rather have Perkins than Kaun. Kaun has been a complete and utter zero
Yeah I’d rather have Perkins. Kaun is worthless and a stupid signing.
How would we know? He never plays.
I have enough faith in our coaching staff that they’re not exactly keeping the next Karl Malone at the end of the bench :)
MAURICE LUCAS WAS A BAAAD DUDE !!!
Tremendous job EG. We missed you!
Good article, David. This stuff is exactly what frustrates me about KI, especially the way he cuts off the roll man.
Perhaps Perkins was the Galvanizing Enforcer.
Okay… time to vote on the best “Enforcer” for the Cavs…
The original…
For the martial arts lovers…
Old school…
For wrestling fans…
For the Anglo-philes…
For the made guys…
For NFL fans…
For made for TV guys…
For the voodoo fans…
For fans of Borderlands…
My personal favorite…
For the musically inclined…
For wine lovers…
For NHL fans…
Fans of Aqua Teen Hunger Force?
This one gets my vote.
Where have you gone, Mo Lucas?
Nice ! Of the enforcers listed, I side with Clint the Original: Make My Day. For a pro sports enforcer, I have to go with The Great One’s enforcer with Edmonton, Dave Semenko. The Cavs player who often stuck up for his teammates was Z, although you wouldn’t think of him at first as a true enforcer. I wish Moz had a little mean streak in him.
LeBron should have de-activated his Twitter account over this mini break. Good to get back to games tomorrow.
Great article. Your analysis reinforces my belief that Kyrie and Love should get more time together – If Kyrie is so consistently snaking the roll man, if Love is the one setting the pick, he has the range to hang back and/or have a man stay back to keep him from getting the ball if Kyrie drives.
To me, Delly, J.R., LBJ, Frye, and TT is a unit that would work well, as would
Moz, Love, RJ, Shump, and KI.
Pacers signing Ty Lawson, and they are buying out Chase Budinger.
And not that I’d want Budinger, but the Cavs couldn’t sign him and have him available for the post season, since he wasn’t cut by March 1.
Dude! Bud-fuego the Blonde Mamba is available! Sign that maniac tow-head up pronto Griff!
He could be our enforcer!
WOULD LOVE TO BE BACK STAGE AND VIEW ” ESPN NBA RUMOR OF THE DAY DARTBOARD “—-THAT IS HOW IT APPEARS THAT THEY CHOOSE THEIR DAILY TOPICS —–
I made a meme about this before:
WHY ARE WE TRADING EITHER ONE OF THEM ACCORDING TO ” OFFICIAL NBA RUMOR MILL—-LEBRON IS HEADED BACK TO SOUTH BEACH “—–….” AND THE BEAT GOES ON ………..”
We are trading them all in a package for Kendrick Perkins.
46 Kendrick Perkins to make the numbers work.
I meant 80 if we are including Lebron
LOL… if he did go, they’d have to call it “The Derision – 2016”
Hypothetical: Both Jason Lloyd and Chris Haynes say that the player most likely to get traded at end of the season (of Kevin Love or Kyrie Irving) is Kyrie.
I’d prefer that they keep everyone together and figure it out.
I’m confused, do they actually say that or is them saying that the hypothetical?
Chris Haynes was asked on the Dan Patrick show who is more likely to get traded this summer if the Cavs do not win a championship? And Haynes said Kyrie. Lloyd was asked the same question on 92.3. So this isn’t something that is happening, it is only a hypothetical.
Hypothetically… they might be right… that’s the brilliance of hypotheticals… they never stick to you when you’re wrong, but they hedge your bets enough on record so you seem relatively competent…
Hypothetically, both of these guys should be good enough reporters to not have to resort to hypotheticals…
That makes sense, since Kyrie is the player that makes the other players around him better the least, and we have Delly to run a pretty competent point. A player like Love is a lot harder to find, and Kyrie’s skills are more redundant with two stars who can already score and pass as focal points of the offense. I love Kyrie and really want his game to keep improving and developing, but there is little question that this would be a better team RIGHT NOW with Chris Paul on it instead. Kyrie can’t even keep up with a limping… Read more »
YEAH I CAN SEE VOGEL DOING SOME POSITIVES THINGS WITH LAWSON ——-ANYONE ON THE ” CAVS HORIZON ” THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT—–WRIGHT/ THORNTON STILL IN THE PICTURE—-DID THE SPURS SIGN MARTIN YET ( THINK THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW )——–“AWESOME EVIL—-TOTALLY AWESOME ” AND WHEN THAT SONG IS PLAYING IN MY HEAD AT 2:00 THIS MORNING —I WILL BE “TOATALLY PISSED ” —HA -HA
Lloyd said that the Cavs are not going to sign Kevin Martin.
Whew… that’s like Maury saying “You are NOT the father!”
Ted Cruz did a great job narrating that second video.
Sounds like LeBron wants an enforcer for this team….
According to Chris Haynes, apparently the players were “highly pissed” that the Cavs did not bring back Kendrick Perkins.
Haynes stated this on the Dan Patrick show earlier today.
If that’s true, not sure why the Cavs didn’t bring Perkins back???
This is such a silly story. It has the feel of one of those stories where the beat guys have nothing to write about, so one of them decides to ask a bunch of leading questions about “enforcers,” and then tweet the hell out of the story.
It is so exhausting to shift through all of the media nonsense with this team.
Kendrick Perkins is the GOAT!!!!
LOL. Apparently so…. according to Haynes!
If they needed Perk for his galvanization properties, I just have to ask, how many towel wavers does this team need? This current twit storm may be complete nonsense, but I’m talking about players being ‘majorly pissed’ when he wasn’t brought back.
Wrong animal, Arch…
Sounds like Ty Lawson is going to join the Pacers. I can see Vogel making him an all-star.
I thought LeBron shut down Twitter after the All-Star break.
Love his passive-aggressive behavior. /s
Really enjoyed this David! Every player should be looking for the things that can do better to help their team. Even if they’re great to begin with, there’s room for improvement, and in the NBA, if you’re not getting better, you’re getting worse, because teams constantly adjust to what you are doing.
Cavs offense with Kyrie, no Delly: 114/100
With Delly, no Kyrie: 111/100
With Kyrie and Delly: 116/100
Okay, so with Kyrie’s immense talent, he’s still only 3 points higher than “D league scrub” Delly? It’s a testament to Kyrie’s amazing talent, NOT that knows how to run a P&R. If he was running it the way it’s meant to be run, that number would be much higher. The problem is that he uses the P&R to turn the play into a quick ISO. He’s not using the roll man the way he should be. Also, when Kyrie and Delly are on the floor, it’s usually Delly that’s running the play, and Kyrie acting more like a 2-guard.… Read more »
Irrelevant Cols. Address the analysis in the original post, that Kyrie’s PnR game is subpar. The stats you just posted could not be less relevant.
EG. Please do not ever stop this. I want that song playing in my head anytime i see Cols’ name.
If Cols is okay re-posting the same take over and over again… then this only makes sense to me… ;)
Please EG do us a favor. This is awesome! Haha
Praise, heaps of praise. Wonderful.
Cols figured out where to find stats. We’re doomed!!!
Actually, this is remarkable.
Cols is actually posting Team stats when a player is on the court.
We went from “Delly is fat and out of shape and scores -2 points per game” box score regurgitation to On/Off Court Offensive Rating splits.
As long as he’s posting the right numbers (we’ll be monitoring), this is a huuuuuuuuuuge win for all of us.
According to NBA.com, the offensive numbers are:
Cavs offensive rating with Kyrie, no Delly: 111.1 (NetRating of 7.3)
With Delly, No Kyrie: 108.3 (NetRating of 11.1)
With Kyrie and Delly: 114.7 (NetRating of 6.5)
I mentioned this on yesterday’s recap under the idea of moving Shump to the starting lineup. I think it was EG who suggested this? If we moved Shump to the starting lineup and pulled KI with the first wave of substitutions then gave Kyrie run with the second unit we could trot out lineups like Delly, Kyrie, JR, TT, and a 5th. That gives Kyrie and Delly run time with defense as well as plenty of shooting. The only problem I see is size, that’s a really small lineup.
Great work David! I think the fact that Irving is still putting up some decent number, despite what he’s doing here just shows how talented he is. He’s not using the pick and roll to his advantage. He’s just using it to get a quick mismatch or step on his defender, then using his superior dribbling skills to beat a defender to the hoop. He’s essentially taking the roll man out of the play to go into a quick isolation play, but he can get away with it, because he’s one of the best in the league at ISO. If… Read more »
The biggest difference: Nash became a masterful rim finisher and good mid-range shooter, so he had those options when the defense gave them to him. Delly is better than he was, but Nash’s ability to finish with either hand off either foot was really extraordinary. Plus, he got good at drawing contact and getting to the line, which Delly avoids.
By “better than he was” I meant Delly’s better than he used to be. Not better than Nash.
Yeah I agree. Delly has that little floating tear-drop shot, and that’s about it. If he were to develop his mid-range game a little more, he’d be a lot more dangerous.
Great piece, David. Like Nomad, I couldn’t help but notice Channing Frye in that video. AND Richard Jefferson was playing for the Spurs!
God, I miss watching Steve Nash…
Well, at least now the media can now focus on the Thunder after their choke job last night against the Clippers. Durant recently stated that “If we want to be a great team, we are fooling ourselves.”
Really informative piece, DW! Anyone who can’t see the issues you are pointing out is clearly just a fan of box scores and individual scoring at the expense of true team basketball… no matter how awesome they might think that is…
Really great piece David!!!!
The goal on offense is to score points effeciently. When Irving is on the court they score points extremely effeciently. Style does not matter.
You’ve made your point. Give it a rest.
I’m correct though.
That’s just your opinion. You don’t have to spout it 50 times.
It’s not an opinion. It’s right there in the stats. They are awesome on offense with Irving.
In this case, your opinion is wrong and numbers back it up. Defense is also have of basketball. Can’t forget that.
Yes. He’s been atrocious at defense. But the offense is great.
I don’t need to see Irving work on PnR offense, I want him working on getting back to where he was last year on defense.
Nobody is disputing whether Kyrie is good on offense. You’re the only one standing in the room arguing point C when everyone else is talking about A and looking at you like “who is this weirdo?” What you are saying completely misses the entire point of the analysis. Kyrie Irving is not a very good pick and roll point guard. That has nothing to do with his isolation play, his shooting ability, or his passing ability. It’s simply about how he handles the screener and what he does after the screen is set. Again, nothing about what you are saying… Read more »
And I know you’re going to say “Man why can’t Cavs fans just appreciate what we have!”
I think everyone does appreciate it. I also think a sports blog does its job when it analyzes sports. That includes analyzing a particular player and a specific facet of that player’s game (good or bad).
Or maybe his PnR game is just fine because getting the ball in the hoop is the goal of the PnR. And the Cavs are great at that when Irving is on the floor.
Where is your support for the fact that the Cavs are great at the PnR with Kyrie on the floor, despite the fact that he’s average at best in the PnR game? I call BS, and even if other players are great in the PnR, it’s totally irrelevant to the point of this analysis. Once again, you don’t understand the point.
Kyrie can improve his PnR game. Please address that analysis.
Very good analysis. I thinkt he “problems” you identifed do in fact hurt the offense at times. But I think you overlook the many times that Irving plays the PnR really well (just like Delly). Below is just one example, but it happens a lot.
KI can get better, but I think the conclusion of the article was too broad given that you focused on only a small subset of the types of actions that Kyrie gets involved with via the PnR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tngfHRWnD8w
Kyrie. PnR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aav-YK5rct4
Yep. The article also ignores the fact that the Cavs are very very good on offense when Irving is playing. That is, he helps the offense so much.
Steph Curry is the only player in the NBA this season averaging 20+ points and 5+ assists on >60% TS.
Kyrie did in February averaged 23.1 points and 5.2 assists on 60.3% TS.
His offense is not a problem whatsoever.
The Cavs are good on offense. However, they’re 118.4 with Delly out there rather than Irving. And the defense is about eight points better too.
Using Cols’ rationale, then, Delly is an offensive superstar and can’t possibly improve in any facet of his offensive game.. because Cleveland = 118.4!
I agree that KI is great, and he takes too much heat.
But I do agree with David’s broad point that he can be EVEN BETTER.
Exactly Hot Sauce!
Great analysis. As good as Kyrie is, he could be so much better (superstar level). I feel like fixing his pick ‘n roll game is as easy as making him read this blog post. Why coaches, Kyrie himself, or others can’t get him to fix it.. well, it sounds like his offensive mentality might need to be adjusted. If Kyrie could be lethal in the PnR (and there’s no reason he can’t be), our offense would go to new heights. Players have to want it, and they have to be unselfish. Talk is cheap. I’d like to see him walk… Read more »
Lue of course has been encouraging Irving to attack, but I imagine that means primarily in transition on the break when he can be unstoppable. It doesn’t mean in the half court set when he goes ISO and has multiple defenders drawn to him, while his teammates stand around and watch. LeBron called him “hard headed” once, and I imagine this is why he said it. I am always drawn to KI’s dismissive comment on Lue’s blackboard post regarding how much higher the shooting percentage went with each addtional pass. KI said something like “….that’s interesting.” As you said, walk… Read more »
Except that Irving is a terrific basketball player and the Cavs play much much better on offense when he’s on the court. You cannot ignore this just because you want him to play a different style.
Watching Irving dribbling to the hoop is among the most beautiful things he does on the court, I hope he continues to do it.
I’m not sure you understand the meaning of the word “except.”
When Irving is on the court the Cavs have a really great offense. He’s awesome at dribbling, shooting, passing and generally scoring.
I love watching Irving play and I hope he does not change because he makes this offense so freaking good.
Kyrie-LeBron-Love-Tristan is 116.7 per 100 for offensive effeciency. That’s really great. So I think this premise that Kyrie doesn’t help the offense is completely wrong.
Are you taking the premise that Kyrie doesn’t help the offense from the original post? Because that’s absurd. Nobody is saying Kyrie doesn’t help the offense. If you’d be objective for once, you’d realize that as great as Kyrie is, he can improve. There’s nothing wrong with analyzing how a player can improve. The fact that Kyrie is averaging 4.4 APG this year is kind of atrocious IMO. There’s too much talent on this roster for him to be unwilling or unable to get teammates involved more than he does. It would only make him and the team better if… Read more »
The offense is awesome when he’s on the court. Sorry, but the problem is his defense, not his offense. Not in any way. He’s great on offense.
Address his pick and roll game. Otherwise, your statement is meaningless. We all know he’s a great offensive player. Are you saying he can’t improve?
I think this might help you understand the article.
http://www.k5learning.com/reading/reading-comprehension
Seriously great article, David.
Testified. I don’t think Irving is irreparable, but he’s part of the offensive stagnation with LeBron for sure. Really nice analysis.
Kyries biggest weakness is also a strength. Maybe not as good as it should be. When he plays the way he does it confuses the defense. They expect the standard pick and roll and defend to that. Its all on Kyrie to finish though and he hasnt been perfect. I will say this. Delly to TT works well and often because for the most part Delly is poor at shooting in that range. Sure he has that floater now but his shooting %s inside the arc are well below Kyrie. Hes always looking for TT and for some reason only… Read more »
Agree with this. I don’t think Kyrie should become a PnR-only PG. But I think he could keep teams off balance by improving his PnR offense.
IN SHERIDAN HOOPS—THEY PUT SAS ( STEPHEN A SMITH ) REORTING ACCURACY TO BE THE EUIVALENT TO LEBRON’S 3 PT SHOOTING PERCENTAGE ——ENOUGH SAID
CHAUNCEY BILLUPS HAD AN INTERESTING ANALOGY ON THE CAVS LAST NIGHT SAYING THAT THE CAVS HAVE “TOO MANY SPECIALISTS—–DO 1 OR 2 THINGS REAL GOOD ” AND NOT ENOUGH TRUE BASKETBALL PLAYERS ——-YOUR THOUGHTS ………
well they have 3 guys in Kyrie/LeBron/Love that are triple threats. Delly and J.R. are somewhat of 2-way players.
I’m not sure I’d agree they are loaded with specialists.
I WAS MORE IMPRESSED WITH THE COMMENT ABOUT THE ” SUNS SMART PICK UP OF CHANNING FRYE “—-HOPE THE CAVS CAN SAY THE SAME THING
Very nice analysis and you’ve covered many of my frustrations with KI. Also, any blog that can reference both Clockwork Orange and Justin Bieber in it deserves a Pulitzer Prize. I would vote for taping KI’s eyes open a la Clockwork Orange and make him watch Steve Nash tapes and his own teammate Delly. If that doesn’t work, I would advocate just using some direct Stanley Kubrick torture on KI. I suggest Irving needs to answer the question posed by socipath Alex in the movie, “What’s it going to be then, eh?”
“…posed by sociopath Alex…..”
Thanks, EG. I think this method would work with KI to increase his assist total and run the p/r better.