2017 Draft Day Live Thread
2017-06-22During the dark ages between The Decision and The Letter, the NBA Draft was an annual basketballiday for Cavs fans. The brutal regular season that had commenced a few months prior and hope for a better future met at a crossroad on a warm June night. Hell, I used to plan Mancations around the event itself. The last of which was a trip in 2014 to Phoenix to catch the Tribe series against the Diamondbacks, drink a bottle of Patron in a pool, and watch the Cavs draft Andrew Wiggins at #1.
The Cavs enter the draft for a second straight year without a selection, but Dan Gilbert surprised us and opened up his generous wallet to the tune of $2.4 million to obtain the 54th selection from the Atlanta Hawks to select Oakland guard Kay Felder. Felder barely cracked the rotation with the Cavs, playing just 386 minutes with the big league club. His talent was showcased in Canton for the Charge though, as he averaged 29.9 points, and 6 dimes per game in 11 contests.
While the Cavs don’t have a selection tonight, enjoy the show. Reflect on the picture above at how young Kyrie and Tristan were and how far they’ve come together. Kyrie could barely grow facial hair back then, and today he’s rocking a beard that would make a lumberjack jealous. They’ve been the constant with us for a six year journey that no other city or fanbase can compare. If a newspaper from the future from a crumby CBS television show told us on June 23rd, 2011 that almost five years to the day from that draft that Kyrie and Tristan would be NBA champions in Cleveland, and a parade would follow with 1.3 million of their friends, we would have been elated. Don’t let anyone take that from you, especially clickbait articles by idiots, for idiots about the Cavs imminent self-destruction. Twenty-eight teams in the league, hope that tonight can somehow put themselves in the position the Cavs are currently in.
As far the teams with draft picks are concerned, tonight is a deep draft class with plenty of intrigue. If you’re looking for some last minute draft prep before the show, draftexpress.com is still the best, and most in-depth in the business. The Celtics already traded away the first pick (if only the Cavs would have done the same in 2013) to go a few spots down the draft board and add to their war chest of future assets. There are also plenty of trade rumors surrounding All-Stars such as Paul George, Jimmy Butler, LaMarcus Aldridge and our own Kevin Love. I’d take just about every rumor with a grain of salt, because salt is awesome and it’s used to give flavor to food that is trash without it.
It’s easy to have a revisionist history looking back on past drafts, but none of the players selected tonight are close to finished prospects. We don’t know who will be able to handle the grind of an 82 game season. We don’t know who will stay healthy. We don’t know which high selection won’t live up to the hype. We don’t know which second rounder will become an All-Star. We don’t know how these kids will handle the NBA money and lifestyle. To all of the players selected tonight congratulations. The ball is in your court. Do something with it.
So if Wiggins and Butler can’t coexist on the wing, will there be Wiggins for Love rumors?
The guy in the current day NBA who most reminds me of prime Scottie Pippen? Iman Shumpert.
RUMORS OF A GREEN / ALDRIDGE TRADE TO CAVS FOR PROBABLY LOVE —-YEAH OR NEH ?
Neh
Salaries don’t match.
Love is better than Aldridge.
Nay
Id love to have Green. But please not for Kev so Neh…
Neh
Rubio still on the block?
https://twitter.com/JeffZillgitt/status/878053792704589824
The bulls are dumb.
Question is, did Butler made it known he was unhappy and done for after two more years?
If you believe the most recent reports… he wanted to stay in Chicago and get paid the supermax in two years…
He’s not worth the supermax imo.
I guess the Bulls didn’t think so either… Wolves will have some interesting decisions to make in two years…
New Era. WTF with these awful hats.
Seriously… the metallic look is so late 90s…
On an 80s trucker frame.
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https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/878053790234095617
Great trade.
Remember that time when Lyles headbutted Channing Frye?
I don’t think Luke will be a great pick. He’s a canard.
Outside of the Butler trade… this draft is pretty boring…
Luke Kennard clearly has the highest hairline in this draft.
My PRECIOUS!
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/878051840281034752
He’ll never make a big trade again…doesn’t want to risk losing his ‘genius’ label after his Nets gift…
Ainge is an idiot. You’re passing up on a 20+pts pg dude with great defense for a “maybe”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz-8CSa9xj8
Ainge made a mistake on that missed trade
Oh Dave…
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/878052129339985920
The perfect partner for Malik Monk? Iman Shumpert.
(Snicker)
You gotta love Embiid’s Twitter smack game…
https://twitter.com/JoelEmbiid/status/878039541319430145
Will we have new jerseys?
I hate these NewEra NBA hats… yuck
Allison Williams looks like Celine Dion.
LOL…. they both hot! HAHAHA!!!
Monk falling to Charlotte is perfect for them.
The better to trade MKG to the Cavs with…
I think Shump would be incredibly valuable to a team like the Hornets…
He has to be taken in the next couple of picks…
Michael Jordan is bummed they lost their mediocre white guy to the pick just in front of them.
I love that I know nothing about these guys. I can just snap reactions based on highlight films interviews, and having watched them for 2 minutes in the NCAAs. This is great.
Collins looks like a bust.
What I was thinking…I’d be scared of taking him…
Blazers Edge HATES this pick. I thought they might go with that Bam guy from Kentucky.
Another big slow white dude for Portland… don’t they already have four or five of those?
im fine not having PG and Butler.
and its a loooooooong offseason. better snag the best fit than just to make a move.
Gotta have room for stretch-pay Melo and a rejuvenated Bosh…
I hope/think that is sarcastic.
How does Sam know this? Is he staying at Jimmy’s pad?
https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/878048620053790720
He works for NSA lol
Smith’s got a ton of talent… but NC State was a big flop in the ACC when they should’ve been good.
Yeah. Crappy defender.
Jalen Rose is a GD buffoon.
It pays well…
In other news… water is wet and the sky is blue…
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/878048655520837632
barely watch college basketball and barely know half these guys being drafted…..just wonder how many will be any good
Fultz has the biggest bust potential IMO.
Well… he was cut from his JV team in HS…
Rich Eisen got hooked too…
https://twitter.com/richeisen/status/878046818721972225
LOL. Loving this. Means it’s much more likely Kevin Love will be a Cav next year. Does that
OH. It’s fake. Eisen is a tool.
God Shammgod has spoken…
https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/878047114139492352
I’ll take his word for it…he’s one of the guys that I barely have seen…
Love a 48 inch vertical and his swagger.
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalN8A/status/878044348729794560
Notice the 8 in place of the B in the address…
At least I’m not the only one.
Honestly, don’t see it making them any better with what they’re giving up.
Not real… at least not yet…
Exactly, unless they have another good move coming up. Like Hortford for Hayward or similar.
It’s nice for the Celtics but they gave up 2 up of their best defenders so now they look like the Cavs, great offense not much defense. If PG goes to the lakers next season the Celtics will get screwed badly too.
Fake report….
https://twitter.com/Herring_NBA/status/878045826701942785
It’s called ‘selling low’…
George to the Celtics for Tatum, Bradley and Crowder. Nice haul for the Pacers.
Bill Simmons is furiously pleasuring himself…
Hold up. It was a fake Woj account.
LOL. And going to LA next summer.
https://twitter.com/BrownsChalkTalk/status/878045023186542597
We won’t get PG13 either, but I would rather have him than Butler
I guess Wolves maybe don’t trade Rubio now… unless they’re bringing in DRose to reteam with Butler…
If they bring in Rose, I’m just going to question Thibs’ competence…
I always doubted that storyline.
Yup… I think it’s a smart move… and they have Tyus Jones to develop off the bench.
Lauri Markkanen to Bulls… French Frank to the Knicks…
I can’t believe they got Butler for a Dunn, a guy with a blown ACL, and a 7th pick.
I think Gar/ Pax love Lavine (could have had him, but they took McBuckets), and that’s what the trade is all about, really. Hard to believe they couldn’t get a better offer than that, but if their front office thinks Lavine is all that, it’s understandable…
EXCEPT HE’S COMING OFF A BLOWN ACL!
I don’t disagree…just trying to understand their thinking…it’s a garbage front office…
Bulls make no sense to me…
How bummed are you if you’re Jimmy Butler? Although, I guess it’s better than staying in Chi-town… except he won’t be eligible for the SuperMax anymore…
Gotta say the supermax deal is kind of horse crap for guys like Butler.
That’s not what he reportedly said…
Rubio as your PG. KAT. Wiggins. Thibs. Wolves are looking up.
Jonathan Isaac looks like little Richard.
Jonathan Isaac looks like little Richard
Love the Isaac “fro-hawk”
Isaac is going to be a STUD for the Magic…
D’Aaron Fox could be a star… for the team that trades for him with the Kings…
I like Fox…. seems like a good kid. Helps he’s lightning quick!
He’s what the Kings need…but they need a lot…
It’s gotta suck to be a Bulls fan these days… take that Joe Cowley…
They have two HoFers on the team in Wade and Rondo…/s
Being a Cavs fan, even with all the bs noise, is awesome.
Didn’t we already have Danny Green for free?
http://wfny2.shoutitoutdesign.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/dannygreen.jpg
D’Aron and Josh Jackson are probably my favorites.
I had a feeling the TWolves would get it done for Butler… another EC star heads west… and so much for Kyrie joining him in Chicago LOL
Really love Jackson…I think he might be the best in this draft…
I think Isaac will be the superstar of this draft fwiw…
TT and Shump for Aldridge and Green.
??
I don’t love the Celtics getting Tatum…rather they stick with their ‘gritty’ bricklayers…
I think Tatum’s going to be a beast… but I’m completely biased as a Duke fan.
Jimmy Butler to the Wolves! Awesome. One down, two to go
Big trades I mean.
Nate do you think the Bulls would have taken Love and Shump?
I don’t… they are starting over… expect them to trade DWade and Rondo by the deadline…
Probably right EG
Lonzo Ball is taking the Lakers to the Playoffs in his first year…his papa just said!
Only if he buys him a ticket to a Clipper game.
????????
I really dislike the entire Ball saga. How he is a bust
Guess Lonzo is trading for PG, then…
Nobody gives a crap about you, Lavar…go away…
Butler and 16 for 7, Lavine and Dunn. That’s fricken larceny!
Wow…time to hit blogabull…
Came here to say the exact same thing… didn’t have to give up Wiggins, this solves their PG problem by getting rid of Levine and Dunn and keeping Rubio, and got a better 2 way player in Butler who can create off the dribble if needed.
Gar/ Pax doing it again…
Since you mentioned blogabull…. might have to take a peak!!! LMAO!!!
Butler to the TWolves!
Is this happening??
Danny Green would be great to bring to Cleveland. Unless we plan on buying Aldridge out (I don’t know the rules, effect on the cap, if it’s possible)- no thanks. He’s not that good and he’s a mid-range guy.
Do buy-out’s affect the cap? Could we buy out his contract to help? Anyone cap savvy? I should have learned how to do that for a living
Lavar Ball is boring. Please get him off my tv.
If Rudy Gay wasn’t a huge defensive liability I would trade TT and Shump for him.
No way. that guy is blackhole on offense.
Since it appears that the Cavs won’t be getting PG or Jimmy Butler I would like for the Cavs to least try to get better defensively. To me any combination of TT with Shump, Frye or Derron Williams for an excellent wing defender would be great.
This is the start! Danny Green rumors! Hopefully no Love/Irving trade involved in any.
If you trade Danny Green for Love, you should be shot.
Or the other way around.
Lol. I love (!) Kev. I want him to at least finish his contract here. We won with him, why cant we do that again.
I believe we could snag that Danny Green type of player w/o unloading Kev.
and i know, no way in hell the spurs would want Kev.
Thinking of another wing player, Nic Batum would be seamless fit here. But his contract made me puke..
I really wouldn’t be mad at this…
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd5khy52
You’d have to have pictures of Popovich and RC Buford in a compromising position with a wombat to pull that off.
If we only had a pick…. THANKS GRIFF! hahaha
For Cols.
https://twitter.com/KirkSeriousFace/status/877653600746565632
https://twitter.com/ryenarussillo/status/877994957126082560
Love for Aldridge and Green? Shump and TT for Aldridge and Green?
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd5khy52
Eff no. Aldridge sucks.
Dude was a total no show in multiple playoff games last two years.
Aldridge is a quiet prima donna. Not super vocal, seems sort of chill, but definitely wants to be “the man”. He would be a lousy fit with the Cavs in that regard.
Who’s better at making their team better, Pop or Bron?
Is this a trick question?
Jamison 2.0
I wonder how many players actually got worse when joining the Spurs? He would be TT with an offensive game if he returned to his Blazer form.
It’d be really funny if the Lakers passed on Ball.
Shump for Beverley (lol), spare parts for Danny Green, and bring Cedi over. That would be an ideal offseason.
I love the Danny Green rumors. Going into the offseason I told a buddy that he’s the top realistic trade target that I wanted us to grab. With San Antonio trying to shed money to sign CP3, we could swoop in. I have no idea what we could give up to make it work, though, but I am would ecstatic to nab him.
From what I think I know about him, he’s a great defensive guy and he’s a career 40% three point shooter. Sounds like the PERFECT piece for us.
He’d be a great addition to the roster. Skilled 3 and D guy. I think that’s possible. I’d be very pleased with a move for Green.
Aldridge- No Thank You. That reeks of Antawn Jamison. Love > Aldridge
Problem is, the Spurs aren’t stupid. I don’t see what the Cavs could trade for him, unless it’s Shump, Cedi, and some other usable piece, and that still probably wouldn’t be close.
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For sure. There was a time people were clamoring to add Amare and Phil Jackson.
Since we have no GM, which is incredible, I think the chances are slightly lower that the Cavs deal Cedi or Love for trash tonight. That would be a successful draft.
You are such a downer. What are you going to be like in a few years when this run is over?
Sorry I don’t live in your fantasy world. It will be interesting to hear your spin if the Cavs deal Love for Melo. I’m sure you’ll be here telling everyone what a great deal it is. I will be truly be fascinated to hear your rationale. (If it happens)
I’m just excited that we don’t have to worry about the draft right now. Knowing that the team we have is really good is pretty fun.
The Cavs should make a move, even if minor, to ease their fans that “hey, we’re gonna be alright”.
Personally, it doesn’t affect me at all but my goodness, the media attention this team is getting is ludicrous right now.
I’m fine on either side. I like Love, and think he’s been a fricken saint since he’s been in Cleveland. If they can retool around the Big Three, that might be enough. A Shump deal for Rubio, or maybe adding MKG would be solid.
Trade TT and Shump for MKG. Done. Give us the trophy.
We’d still need another big if we trade TT.
Why would we do TT for MKG? Unless we got another big, I don’t get that trade.
Right. Trading TT would be insane unless it is for someone like George.
I’m not sure about MKG… but packaging those two for something ain’t a bad idea.
TT and Howard would be awful next one another…MKG is a vicious defender on the perimeter. Shump and Cedi for him works financially.
That’s the only realistic trade scenario to improve the Cavs I’ve seen. Hornets may be dumb enough to do it, too.
I just don’t see anyone giving us anything for Shump. Everyone knows he sucks. Rubio? No way!