Live Thread/Not A Recap: Cavs @ Pistons (Or, Tuesday Night Redux?)
2020-01-09The Cavs are facing the Pistons for the second time in less than three days. They’re in Detroit this time though. John Beilein is hoping the team has a better showing in his first return to Michigan since leaving the Wolverines. He doesn’t want to regret his decision.
The Cavs entered the final frame Tuesday night with an 11 point lead. Kevin Love already had 24 points on 10-13 shooting. He had gone 3-5 from deep in the first three quarters and had four assists! Yea, he was having himself a night.
He shot just two more times the rest of the game for six points. Meanwhile, Darius Garland and Collin Sexton went 1-8 in the fourth and scored just six points. Derrick Rose, the guy they presumably were matched up against much of the quarter, scored 11 points including a go head floater-winner where he scooted around an Andre Drummond screen to get past Matthew Dellavedova with 26.1 seconds left in the game.
It was the same story it is many nights. Kevin Love doesn’t get the ball when he should, and the Cavs come up short. Love is a pro. He’s a very good pro. The young guys on this team need to realize this.
I cheated and watched this game picking my spots, looking at the box score, and watching the recap. All of those things just furthered the narrative that Love is the best guy on the Cavs. He is space. When he pops, he sucks a defender out and leaves a wide open lane against a slower big for one of the guards. Or, he’s just open and hits his shots for the most part. Sexland will need to realize this if they want to win.
Here’s a fact: Sexland went 1-8 in the fourth quarter. Collin had their only make when Kevin Love flashed up to screen just enough to make Derrick Rose stutter and then slipped out immediately to 3-land. Collin then had a lane as Thon Maker stayed home on Love. None of Sexland’s other shots used Love as a screner. None of Garland’s did. Come on…
Oh yea, I forgot. You can always drive by a larger defender into a giant guy like Andre Drummond and try to dunk. See, Sexton did it below.
Collin Sexton what are you thinking 😐
— Everything Cleveland (@everythingcle_) January 8, 2020
Sexton doesn’t want to give the ball to the 6’10” guy standing behind the arch who is 4-6 from deep and just canned a three ball less than 30 seconds ago and has a 6’3” guard on him. A 6’3” guard that is cheating away from him for some reason. NO WAY. Or, even use that tall 3-bomber to screen. THAT’S RIDICULOUS.
Everyone in the universe sees this stuff. What is Beilein seeing? Why doesn’t he just bench Sexton and Garland for a game and make them watch film for the duration of a game of what happens when Love is involved? Some wins might follow.
The Cavs left one out there. The Pistons grabbed it. Nonetheless, the Cavs should bounce back tonight. The Love lack of touches talk is loud and clear right now. Love even apologized for being upset over it ultimately. This is the start of a great turnaround story…I can hope.
Cavs 110, Pistons 101. Love gets 35.
Wow, nice oop finish!
Championship chemistry!
Best ooto play from cavs I’ve seen all year.
Huge missed layup by knight
Gotta finish that, Knight…
argh!!
5 pt turnaround
Wow. That call was thin
This is such a winnable game, need to run plays though.
No one but love and tt crashing the d boards
DRUMMOND JUST ” THUGGING ‘ THE CAVS
Nice penetration there by Knight for the dime!
” GRANDMA ” MOSES WOULD LOOK LIKE MOSES MALONE AGAINST THE CAVS
Nice.
Cavs look dispirited
apparently Cavs don’t want to shoot a 3, they’ve only taken 8, making 1.
That’s a slug shot
nice touch pass by Garland to Love
Drummond looks like Moses Malone against the Cavs…
Moses would look like Moses Malone against the Cavs.
It’s amazing to me what a willing passer love is despite how little he sees the ball sometimes.
Chucky Sexton
Pass and score. I know it’s hard.
Garland with a couple godawful possessions
Sexton went under on rose. Smart
#hackadrummond might get us back in this
Matchup cannot be it. Henson could play when Drummond sits. Possible explanations:
1) He is involved in trade talks & we shelved him.
2) We wanted to guve Zizic some run.
3) Tank commander
4) Beilein is none too bright.
Red sea parted for TT.
Sounds like trade in the works for Henson
Interesting, thanks…
Source, or just spit balling?
Just basing it off of what makes sense.
Can’t believe how empty that arena is…
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1215444411900932096?s=20
So can we talk about Henson. Apparently is ok to go….just not playing…again. Matchup issue?
I don’t get it, assuming he’s good to go…
See below. Cavs beat guys just as confused.
https://twitter.com/SpinDavies/status/1215434234812342277?s=20
Great minds Nate….
Well, boards are the story. We have 15, Drummond has 13.
But at least we got the last bucket in each quarter!
Man, Cedi so good on those slashes to the rim…
So natural for him.
Sexton still shooting over Drummond, got away with it that time.
He’s quick enough to get by him, but if Drummond is sitting back there, he has zero chance…
Missed the pregame, is Henson out?
See above
DRUMMOND GOING FOR HIS CUSTOMARY 20/20 AGAINST THE CAVS —-JUST HAVE NO ONE TO MATCH UP WITH HIM
Impressive lane defence by detroit – no breathing room.
Also uncalled fouls
Nice dish from Delly to Love…
3 blocks and counting against Sexton.
That’s his game…
Nice move by Zizic…he is one of the best in the NBA at that sort of old skool post stuff…
Cavs playing well but bad shots and turnovers…
Dumb foul. In the penalty
Doubt Sexton makes that pass to Cedi on the break…nice job, DG…
Really like what Cedi is doing on offense lately…
yes seems more comfortable in his usage and spots.
Best player on the team by analytics
What’s going on with Delly?
Don’t tell me I missed a visit from the great one himself?
More accurately, ‘great one’…
Jesus. That Rose travel was ridiculous
Never have loved Rose’s game, but he looks pretty good this season…
Pretty good last year. I always wonder if he (or Wade) would have helped us in the Finals. I think we win Game 1 with either.
Zizic in. Is Henson out again?
Yezus. Sexton dribbled for 20 seconds before the bailout.
TT ballin’ early.
I like Doumbouya…looks like he’s progressing. Not good right now, but he might be really good in a couple of years…
Love got a shot 6 min in at least. Finally.
Amazing after last game.
Lol. Sexton.
McKennie is back? 10 day?
McKinnie back on a ten day
Everyone with a FGA save Love.
Yezus Cavs guards just trying to do everything. Has anyone else gotten a shot?
Homer Simpson level learning curve.
Love did draw FTs the first trip. And he & TT both have early TOs.
Sexton is #1 in getting rejected. Gotta excel at something.
Sexton’s ability to get blocked is uncanny
Lol. Cols showing up and down voting everyone’s post and up voting his own. What a loon.
Hehe, the one that shall not be named is here again. Man, he has a strange obsession with this site for someone who hates it. With the number of down votes he just did for every comment save his own, he must have a ton of burner accounts. Dude is like a jilted crazy ex-lover turned unhealthily obsessed stalker, lol.
MY ANSWER TO THE POST BELOW –( JOHNB )–…………….” MORE BEER PLEASE ” : )
This is insane lol.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/09/us/ohio-browns-bengals-marijuana-spt-trnd/index.html
I don’t have anything against it, but browns fans should try treating browns blues by becoming fans of other teams or sports. That’s the only treatment that will work.
Good recap. I think Sexton may think this is his team. There are some decisions, eg the play above, he makes where it seems clear he is trying to play hero ball. Unfortunately he doesn’t have the game or size to win at that.
It’s nice to see that the warriors vaunted system doesn’t work at all without great players. They are last in the league in offense. I wish all the writers who wrote that their system was why they were winning would all write columns about how they were wrong and it’s the stars not the system that drives nba offenses.
Also. Everyone here owes Th Lue a huge apology. Beilein is awful.
Lue was 0 and 6 last year before getting canned. Clearly he isn’t that great of a coach without a ton of talent. And he plainly wasn’t interested in being a coach of a rebuild since he plainly just didn’t care last year.
Obviously coaches can only do so much without talent. I don’t think anyone ever said you didn’t need any talent, but some can do more than others.
Dude. Cols. We know it’s you. Do you really think they’re not tanking like the 97 Spurs?
Robinson got hurt. And Duncan was a prize. Now tanking AFTER the Admiral went down? Absolutely.
This year, there is no prize. The tank is questionable for this is reason.
As for the Dubs, they are not exactly going all out for W’s. I suspect they will try to parley their pick & DeLo into a player to help Curry, Klay, and Dray try to win next year.
You mean after Klay went down?
Ty Lue sucked last year with better players. Spin it any way you like, it’s true.
A) No system works without good players.
B) Drew is the one who is due the apology.
C) Lue checked out when Bron left.
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1215332727509200896?s=20
Interesting. That might be the max we could get since I don’t think we’re getting a late first for love. Ariza is kind of washed. But maybe the heat are desperate enough to get off Waiters to give up a second.
However I might keep love if he was willing for that return. Keyword if. Love would have to be committed, which probably wouldn’t last. If he wasn’t I would do that deal.
Nice work. I like Bogie. Thought he is a RFA after this year. I fear Joseph & Dedmon could be washed. They might be wasting roster spots. Dion is for sure. Giles & the picks are good.
Still, a lot of long-ish term dead money there.
My preference is to keep Love & deal Sexton.
Bogdan could be an all star and they are supposedly shopping him. Worth the risk and the bad money next year imo. Most of those third years are very low guarantees.
I don’t want Dion anywhere near this team.
Yeah he seems toxic.
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Thanks NOMAD. And just to be clear, despite my rant, I think it is extremely unlikely Beilein gets fired.
I do think Sexton thinks it is his team. Which shows how dumb he is. Dumb guys with the ball a lot is not a good recipe for winning.
Thanks for the recap, David.
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I believe 40% of the current team is white: Love, Cedi, Delly, Windler, Zizic, & Wade. 6/15. Exum is an Aussie.
To turn this into a racist thing you really have to squint, or be desperate for clickbait. AND have a serious problem allocating your outrage. There a lot more things that are more pressing that people should be worried about (your health, happiness, climate change, health care, tensions with Iran, flying on a plane made by Boeing, bad video reviews in college playoff games, if Browns/Bengals fans are going to get approved for medical marijuana use, etc.). ;)
Seems like he misspoke. All that matters is what the players think.
“THE INFERNO ” HAS BEEN ” DOUSED ” WITH THE FLU : (
Thanks David. Sucks that Exum is out again. He’d be very handy vs Rose.
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If these guys (Sexland) do not show some improvement in BBIQ by ASG, and Beilein dos not address it (cut PT, etc), then he should be fired.
If Koby is mandating it, he should be fired as well.
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^^^^ What Nomad said! Thanks David.