Open Thread: The 2022 NBA Draft
2022-06-23Good afternoon/evening, CtB!
Tonight’s the night, the 2022 NBA Draft. At the time of this writing, the Cavs will have four selections to upgrade their roster, but there is rampant speculation that the Cavs are loading up to make moves. Most recently, there’s solid evidence that the Cavs are looking to jump into the top 10, trade back, or possibly trade back into the 1st round with their collection of 2nd round picks. The excitement is off the charts in anticipation for how the Cavs will upgrade the roster between now and next’s week free agency frenzy.
Also as I wrote in this story explaining the deal, as a result of today's trade with Kings for the No. 49 pick, #Cavs have around $4 million more in cash to send out in trades — or to use to buy a draft pick if so inclined.https://t.co/hsWMxH97mO
— Chris Fedor (@ChrisFedor) June 23, 2022
So enjoy sit back, relax, and enjoy the show, Commentariat… and of course, sound off below!
Really seemed like the Cavs essentially punted on the 2nd round, when they could have taken at least one guy they could put on the development track. Diop could be an NBA player one day, but I feel that Mobley stands a higher chance of getting NBA minutes. Doubt the Aussie ever plays in the NBA.
Cavs still have a gaping hole at the wing, and a serious need for playmakers. Altman has some hard work to do in free agency.
Mostly agree.
Diop cannot shoot. He is a big that needs to play close to the basket. But he is legit big & strong and pretty quick, and playing in Spain for 3 years. His defensive awareness should be better than a college kid who played a lot of zone.
I like the LeVert deal less every day. Hopefully Caris turns that around next year. If not, he, Love, and Windler is roughly $52 mil in salary coming off the books. We do need to pay DG.
what a weird draft! Totally not used to the Cavs taking a 4 year senior. I love the fit of Agbaji on paper. If you go back (as someone did in one of the previous threads) and look at the sheer number of busts per NBA draft–even in the top 10–we are all kidding ourselves if we think we know what kind of players these guys will turn out to be. That being said, the low asst rate and poor defensive numbers give me pause on this guy. But–if he can play solid D and provide some reliable 3 point… Read more »
We need PGs, plural. And a legit backup C.
Getting rid of the log jam at SG and getting a two-way wing who is 6’7″-6’9″ range would be helpful.
Lord, I am praying for Windler to do something.
Ellis to the Kings. Lewis to the Bulls.
that sucks
Well, per Fedor, Diop is a stash (as many here pointed out, not me), though he will do summer league.
And Mobley is expected to sign a two-way.
Altman views Agbagi as a 2 who can slide up in certain matchups. Was hoping for a trade to break up our log jam at #2 (LeVert, Sexton, Okoro, Agbagi, Windler, Cedi).
I like these Box and 1 scouting videos. But man it makes Ochai seem reallllly limited. NBA teams are going to be able to close out on his jumpers, and it doesn’t seem like he has any other tools in his bag. This video makes it seem like he can’t even make basic passes. Obviously this is just me responding to a few assessments and videos, but it sure seems like a wasted opportunity using a high(ish) pick on a guy whose absolute ceiling is as a limited spot up shooter.
https://youtu.be/pXbuLobFdww
Ogbaji looks to be good spot up shooter – if things work out he might replace Okoro if latter cant take next step in development. Cool we got Mobeley’s brother…hilarious we got the son of Diop haha…dont know anything about this Travers dude…surprised Cavs used ALL draft picks…thought for sure they’d just draft two guys….still think more moves on the way for this team…GO CAVS!
and Diop already grew 2 inched between “Fearthesword” and “NBA.com\draft”
Diop will be stashed per Fedor
I would change some things about this draft, but I’m happy a destructive narcissist like Kyrie isn’t on my team. Think of how much that would suck right about now.
you got that right!
and, if you’re a Nets fan, you know that KI expects the max, and then no team will trade anyone for him, so they are looking forward to a long standoff.
Hope Koby is on the phone lining up some summer league guys. Always hoping to get lucky!
We have some lifting to do.
Smart teams had logjams at certain positions and got picks for guys at those spots (Memphis & Melton).
Hope Keon Ellis gets a summer league shot
100%
2nd try:
DG, LeVert, Big Finnish, Mobley, Allen
???, Okoro, Agbagi, Wade, Love
???, Windler, Osman, Stevens, Mobley
Stash: Diop, Travers
Sexton ?
yup, Sexton looks like he’s gonna be staying.
Sexton?
Trade Sexton, Windler, and Osman for a PG
You forgot D. Murray :)
So:
DG, LeVert, Big Finnish, Mobley, Allen.
???, Okoro, Osman, Wade, Love.
???, Windler, Stevens, ????, Mobley.
———
Stash: Diop, Travers
Nembhard is currently the 3rd PG
Who is second?
Agbaji I guess LMFAO
No way. He is strictly off-ball. Not a combo guard at all.
It was a joke LMFAOOOO
Also you forgot to list Agbaji
Oops. Thanks.
Nothing like having a team with serious holes and a bunch of picks and then stashing half of the picks.
Agreed.
The roster is severely unbalanced.
That 2nd round was completely unserious
I am assuming THAT is a stash.
Luke Travers….another Aussie beast to grace the boards of Cleveland.
Perth no less! I expect a full scouting report.
What else would I be doing this weekend? :)
It’s not like you’re curing polio
Hey, that was the other guy’s job.
LMFAOOOOO
jabari walker ?
Another draft and stash like Besson?
seabron from nc state ?
Lol. I picked matkovich on the pid for Cleveland at 56.
Swap Diop for Liddell or Rollins, and I’m pretty happy.
Isaiah actually has a lot of skill. Could be around a while. Reminds me a bit of Taj Gibson.
I don’t hate the pick. I think it makes Diop an almost definite stash pick which seems more of a waste at 39.
I don’t get Diop and Mobley together. Each individually make some sense.
Well, we have 3 legit Cs now. Isiah can shoot some. I think you need 3.
But I also think you need 3 PGs and we are two short.
Maybe Diop is a stash.
Dipo is absolutely a stash.
I was thinking this was the pick at #59.
me too
Blame me for mentioning I Mobley…
Pretty predictable taking Mobes’ brother.
We spent assets to acquire a pick to pick a guy who was never gonna get picked.
Mobley’s brother. Could have had him at #56, yes?
Eh. Little difference.
Well, then why spend assets for the pick?
psychology.. for the mobley’s
So someone like the Knicks doesn’t.
consider it a favor for Evan. if it increases the likelihood of EM staying with the Cavs long term, it will be a brilliant pick.
Could’ve had either second rounder at 56.
Isaiah Mobley.
little mobes
justin lewis ?
As soon as we mention a guy and… lol
NZ PG Besson? as we’re running out of SFs?
Jabari Walker is our last hope.
We have 1 PG on the roster. Rubio out till ’23.
Besson (ling term PG project) or a swing on Brown (a 6’8″ guy).
QUIT PICKING MY PLAYERS GRIZZLIES!!!!!!
i think eli liked jaylin williams
If Kendall Brown is there, I might take a swing at #49.
Drafting Rollins would make me feel better.
Hawks nabbed him.
Golden State bought the pick I think.
moses is a nothing-burger ? seemed like a competent backup big ? i dont get the diop at 39
Guys, Liddell is a PF.
We have Mobley, Big Finnish, Love, and Wade who can all play PF. And Stevens.
I saw him as a potential Love replacement down the line…
I think that is Lauri.
I think he can play the 3 in the NBA… or at least worth the shot to try.
Maybe. He was a big at OSU. Defensively I’d worry.
Lidell got a block or 2 against Blanchero, fwiw
But that is vs another big. Playing the 4, his D is fine. My question would be guarding quicker guys on the perimeter as a 3.
We drafted a 4th SG why not a 5th PF? Maybe somebody will trade us an actual SF for 6 or 7 of those guys.
But none of our other SGs can shoot and defend. Agbaji will play. And he can play some SF as well.
Liddell would be 4th at best on the PF chart.
haha!
6-7 PF but if he can play some 3….
Pels get a guy who might be a really good NBA player…very surprised Liddell didn’t go earlier…
I don’t get this pick at all. Guys like Liddell sitting there and I feel like they drafted a 60 pick backup big.
Yup, projected as a fringe 2nd rounder yet took him in the top 1/3.
Just no real upside that can’t be had for a 2 million veteran big contract.
With our very last pick, would we pick Mobley’s brother?
is he likely to get drafted? if not, I like our chances of getting him as a walk on.
Good God. Eli is right. The Cavs are incapable of drafting anyone between 6-6 and 6-10.
We needed a legit backup C & Diop is it.
He has been playing in Spain since he was 17 and made a nice leap this year. Legit big. 7’0″ and 250 lbs. Pretty good at moving his feet.
We got a SG/SF who can defend & shoot. And the backup big.
A PG and combo forward are up next.
Seems like a stash, which probably means they aren’t trading any picks…
No way is Diop a stash. He’ll make the team. Been in Spain for 3 years.
We’ll see…he has potential for sure, not sure about being on the roster just yet…he needs to play.
Diop it is!
Chandler going to Memphis. Is Memphis in every trade?
they know how to make moves!
Grizz cleaning up.
Tyus Jones probably gone with Chandler move.
They traded Melton, so I don’t think that’s necessarily true.
Want me some Lofton
Josh Minott
Spurs another solid pick.
Chandler gone.
I’d go Diop or Liddell.
A swing on Brown maybe?
Liddell, Rollins, Brown sure any of those three.
Rollins would be decent here for Cavs…
Rollins or Liddell…seems like a no brainer…
Yup, that’s where we’re at at this point.
Spurs have an amazing draft on paper…
Chandler is such a Pop pick.
Agreed.
mcgowens ?
liddell has fallen b/c ?
great question! Cavs should swoop!
Hardy a nice swing here for the Grizz.
holy shit they got Hardy???!
Anyone else find perk indefensively bad?
He sucks
Most of the time.
Any defensive stoppers left?
Jabari Walker and Keon Ellis are decent defenders, Kennedy Chandler is too in spite of his size.
Diop, Liddell, Chandler.
Hoping for Liddell, but he’ll probably be gone…
Hi Ms. Ivey!
Back off she’s mine!! LMFAOOOOOOO
Gonna see if she’s available for some private jump shot tutoring
Gonna have to watch more Note Dame games
Go Irish!
Yeah…. She fine !
Procida gone. Dang.
I want Kenny Lofton Jr. for Cavs.
God…Procida gone…Cavs could have used him…
Lakers up.
Ugh. Christie could be pretty good.
What are the Thunder gonna do with all these guys??
Raptors definitely have the league’s greatest assemblage of Cameroonian talent
Koloko seems like a pure Raptor…
Thoughts on SF Keels?
Sure I’d take a shot, like that he’s big and kind of a jack of all trades type of player.
Another 6’5″ guy who cannot shoot.
We already have 2 (Okoro & Stevens).
I’d take Diop or Chandler (despite hating his FT numbers) at this point.
Josh Minott @ 39
Gimme Jaden Hardy
Ick.
Though I get the gamble.
Yeah I guess I want something shiny after the safe pick
I think that is fair/sensible.
That’s right TTM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1540168127241125889?s=20&t=HldqqmVRQHKmvtoPrLTQpA
Nice player.
Damn. Brunson 2.0.
Probably seals the deal for them shipping out Brogdon
Yep. This should have been our pick.
Liddell and Hardy/Chandler lets go Koby, get it together!