Live Thread: Cavs @ Spurs
2022-12-12Good evening, Cavs the Bloggers! The wine and gold travel to San Antonio tonight to take on the Spurs! First the good news, Donovan Mitchell is starting, and Kevin Love looks like a go! For the Spurs it looks like Keldon Johnson who was questionable with a stomach bug is available. The bad news? He’ll be able to get the Cavs sick, and Diakite is on assignment with the Charge.
CLE
PG: Darius Garland
SG: Donovan Mitchell
SF: Lamar Stevens
PF: Evan Mobley
C: Jarrett AllenSAS
PG: Tre Jones
SG: Romeo Langford
SF: Keldon Johnson
PF: Isaiah Roby
C: Zach Collins pic.twitter.com/wcYaHlAcyD— Cavs District (@Cavs_District) December 13, 2022
A mostly healthy Cavs squad should dominate, but watch out for Johnson and Co. The Spurs post the worst defense in the association and are 25th in offense, as they’re tanking hard for Wembanyama. Don’t wanna put the jinx on here, but Cleveland should win handily. Should be a fun one! Go Cavs!
I STARTED TO WATCH THE REPLAY BUT AT THE JINCTION OF THE GAME WHEN IT WAS 40–37 CAVS DOWN BY ONLY 3 AND WITHIN ” A FART AND A BURP ” WERE DOWN BY 16 —53-37 —HOW IN THE HELL DOES THIS HAPPEN —–ALLOWED TO HAPPEN TO A TEAM THAT IS QUITE HONESTLY TRYING TO TANK—-WTF !!!
I doubt if the players are EVER trying to tank. If team management is actually trying to tank, they would have to do it by putting in suboptimal lineups, etc.
Also, most or all NBA players probably had a 30 or 50 point game in college, and are capable of getting hot and shooting the lights out.
So it is really true that any team can win on any night.
yup, NBA more talent rich than ever, only 5 or 6 truly bad teams…. about 20 teams within a few games of .500 last i checked.
SAM ” MY MAN ” MERRILL AFTER A ROUGH SHOOTING WEEKEND WENT 7/9 FROM ” DOWNTOWN LAST NIGHT ——GOOD WAY TO BREAK OUT OF A SLUMP !!!
any chance of him coming up this year?
JB’S SO CALLED ” LACK OF TRUST ” IN HIS PLAYERS IS GOING TO LEAD TO A ” LACK OF TRUST ” IN HIM BY THE PLAYERS ——- A TRICKY —FINE LINE TO WALK
a prime example of +- being a very shaky single game stat: Darius Garland was +10. nobody who watched this game would expect that # i wouldn’t think. His impact was incredibly visibly negative.
Just has to get figured out-we don’t have a top 5 player to dominate / close, so you have to figure out the right way to finish. Mobleys increased production and aggression makes that more difficult, not less, but it’s a first world problem. Even the LeBron teams had to figure this stuff out.
how does Mobley playing better make it harder to close?
more decisions and more complication: should DG set up Mobley? shoot? defer to DM?
Raw box score plus minus can be extremely misleading due to its very nature of not being lineup adjusted. Why I take it with a grain of salt.
Take it with an ocean of salt.
I love that they didn’t quit and fought back to almost pull it out, but what would be better is not put themselves in the hole in the first place against m a very beatable team. A couple things that stood out to me: (1) back to back possessions late where first Mobley and then Allen both kind of hesitated initially before attacking the basket instead of going quick and forcefully like the Spurs did throughout (and like Allen did for most of the game); (2) Garland throwing a low percentage, semi out of control, cross court pass under the… Read more »
empty words from JB, criticizes the team, did nothing to hold anyone accountable except for Cedi catching a stray.
What does “hold them accountable” mean? Insult them, bench them? They will see what they did wrong when they watch the game. No need to air them out: these are professionals. You never had Ty Lue do that in the press
I believe chris means JB did nothing to hold them accountable WHILE the atrocity was happening. Criticizing a guy or guys for poor performance after playing most of them near 40 mins is a self-own
Yup, playing time is the ultimate form of accountability, the universal law of sports.
they need to play together to figure it out though. like watching Diakite or Neto or another 12th man type be productive in spurts doesn’t actually advance the team’s development
Odds are youre right about the regular season. You can take losses now and expect most nights that 8 players can win a lot of games with the talent we have by just figuring it out. But you cant NOT have chemistry behind those 8 in the NBA and expect to win when it matters. Injuries happen. Off nights happen when the games count in the playoffs. And matchups become problematic. You need lineup flexibility more now than you used to. We could be the most talented roster in the east but get beat by toronto in the first round… Read more »
bro it’s the regular season, there’s 82 games LMFAOOO let’s get pass the all star break before we worry about chemistry for the playoffs.
We need the starters to figure out how to finish teams. No reason to not give them as many chances as possible. Solve the real problem which is with the players.
Some of this is some of the Cavs players enjoying the smell of their own farts after the hot start. They show up to these games against bad teams thinking they’re going to win just by rolling the balls out. Sorry guys, you ain’t that good…not yet.
Exactly,Spurs weren’t impressed.
You know, it may go deeper than that. Last season they were on a tear until Rubio got hurt. And I wonder if to some degree some (younger) guys felt it was inevitable to pick right back up where they left off at mid season last year. The good news is, they are in fact even more talented than last year with Spida, and with their own homegrown potential. But . . . unlike the first few months of last year, they can’t sneak up on anyone – the whole league plays them hard. So they need to step it… Read more »
Yup. Just need to figure out how to start and finish games effectively against each team. Have a plan that starts with someone other than DM
last I checked, DM was pretty good
he’s awesome. but he can’t be the only guy and we need secondary actions / to initiate offense sooner.
Maybe a big-big PnR with Mobley and JA? iono. so many interesting possibilities with our talent
JB should go coach for the Browns. He’d fit in!
Young guys struggle on the road. We’re young. Long season. Frustrating as a fan, but the kids are alright
The coach isn’t.
He can’t make them execute.
You can bench them and play positive lineups
sure, fuck it. sub out the allstars for G-leaguers. success soon come.
it’s December, the main guys need to play together and fail together and experiment. and that process needs to take place with guys who matter
Solid ass whipping by the Spurs,final score notwithstanding.They couldn’t be bothered to show up til the 4th quarter and payed for it.
Half ass it the majority of the game, then kill yourselves to make it a close loss…it seemed inevitable, but makes zero sense.
The Spurs we’re trying to give us this game too! SMH!
And the refs
Yes we got some calls tonight. If this were against the Bucks we never would’ve got those calls.
It legit felt like the refs were under orders to help Pop tank! Lol!
Sometimes the process is frustrating. I wish DG didn’t get so much run this game.
Can’t only play the 4th quarter. Cavs deserve to lose there. DG misses wide open corner 3 to win the game
just lost to flagrantly tanking team LMFAOOOOO bang up job JB!!!
Welp that was the winnable one for IDK December
DM should have passed it back out to DG.. but yeaaa bad play the entire game..
Yup, or call timeout
Fire JB!
He didn’t miss the FTs/shots but LOL
Yeah but he ran out a struggling DG for 40 minutes, while Neto played 0 minutes. And he kept going with Stevens, while playing Cedi 7 minutes. He’s a headcase!
He has trust issues.
That’s not a good trait.
a lot of times trust issues are warranted.
Caris LeVert +14, only 29 minutes…. WHY JB?????
Okay that doesn’t even fit JB’s own MO! He is observed to ride the hot hand more so than follow set minutes, for anyone other than the top guys, right? Well Caris was balling out the entire game, arguably the best he’s played other than the 41 point night! Amazing that he didn’t get 35+.
35+ mins, based on how he looked
Good. Cavs gotta learn they can’t just play in the fourth quarter.
yeah they didn’t deserve to win… half assed it until the 4th quarter.
I’ve been working a string of 6 day, 60+ hour weeks…not sure how much more time I want to devote to these road game shitfests…
Yeah they honestly are not that fun to watch team putting up shit effort
That was a game there gonna look back on. This one stings! And it’s JBs fault again!
All these road losses are games they are going to look back on … sigh
Fitting for garland to lazily lose the game on a wide open look. Mobes free throws have always been frustrating
It seemed inevitable that the Cavs were never going to score there…
WTF WAS THAT MITCHELL
I would want the ball in Mitchels hands though.. and DG had a good look as well..
Damn it !!!
Almost. Had our chances.
Did we not have any timeouts left?
Good lord. The Cavs are getting EVERY call.
Damnit Evan. Make the 2nd.
0% chance he was making both of those…
Evan is a very 68% free throw shooter
He needs to work on his free throws..
Damn it Mobley!
good unselfish play by Mitchell
No whammies!
Let’s see if Evan can make his free throws…
Cavs getting some luck with the refs
Offensive foul. Down 2 44 seconds left.
It would be really nice if we could steal this. Though no need for a 3. I like our chances in OT.
Go inside. Every time. They will make mistakes.
Let’s see if we get a good stop or a foul so we can stop the clock and get some points hopefully..
What a dumb foul on the Spurs. Pop won’t challenge cause they don’t wanna win.
CARIS LEVERT HUGE DEFENSE!!!!!
Lol
Mitchell hustle.
PURE WILLPOWER DONOVAN MITCHELL
Within 2.
Get a stop!!!
Overturned!! Yes!
That’s off of the Spurs!
Nice hustle Cavs gonna win this challenge. It’s off Richardson’s leg.
Unless the refs are also on LSD
Who the hell reversed that call? It clearly went off josh’s leg they got it right the first time
JB challenge that you scbmuck!
And another. DM miss.
At least it was a decent shot.. rather he made it but still..
I didn’t mind the Caris3 either. He has had a good night. The TO grinds my gears.
Still in it.
Had it down to 4 & 2 chances. Mussed LeVert 3 and Mobley TO.
Cavs missing their opportunities..
JFC Mobley.
Mobley oof!!!
Garland or someone missed Evan in the paint on the break.
I thought that was a pretty tough play to make. LeVert opted tk pull it out.
DG leads the team in points tonight
You mean DM..
Pop calls timeout to get LeVert back on the floor so he doesn’t accidentally win this.
Honestly, Cavs are young but not as young as the Spurs. They should overwhelm…..should!
Can we please get Stevens off the court? He’s useless on both ends tonight.
Maybe JB will find a clue in this timeout.
The sloppy Q4 turnovers are becoming an every game thing lately home or away
Put in LeVert, Mitchell, Cedi, Mobley, Allen
Or Okoro at the 3
no way Cedi comes back in after sitting all half.
garland had those back2back turnovers to kill our earlier rally. i kind of just want him to shoot open midrange shots and knock off the nonsense passes
More growing pains…
Spurs are basically 9-11 this quarter… cant allow that when trying to get back in the game.
WHY IS CARIS ON THE BENCH?????
jb has the spurs on his fanduel account
Can’t have Mitchell and Garland together. They’re getting torched by the guards.
Why is Stevens in the game?
Has Garland played the whole second half?
on pace for 39
JB has him in the circle of trust!
Jones is eating DG’s lunch
just torching garland on defense
Dropping bigs on the pick and roll and Darius just late around the pick