Recap: Washington 96, Cleveland 106 (OT) (or strange days in Cavalierland)
2013-11-17The Cavs traveled to the nation’s capital amid stories of a contentious players only meeting after Wednesday’s lackadaisical loss to Minnesota. Dion Waiters was excused from practice Thursday for being “sick” and then missed Friday’s game and this game. The suspicion by myself and others is that Dion was told to stay home. That was just one of the swarm of story lines swirling around this game.
1st Quarter: The Cavs started Bynum, Thompson, Clark, Miles, and Irving, and made a concerted effort to get the ball to Bynum in the post to start the game. Andrew was 2-8 for the game, but had more than a couple shots just rim out. His teammates still don’t seem to know how to play with a post. There wasn’t a lot of cutting and getting to open spots… Defensively, Cleveland was flying around, blocking a lot of shots, and getting steals, but also giving up threes and lay-ups in transition, leading to a the quarter ending 25-18, Washington.
2nd Quarter: The Cavs bench came out cold to start the quarter, and Mike Brown responded quickly by staggering his starters instead of platooning as had been the case in the last few games. The energy level seemed there, but the execution seemed stiff, with Kyrie doing a lot of dribbling. But Kyrie seemed like a waterbug on offense and defense, darting all over the floor, and he helped keep the Cavs in it when the Wizards stretched their lead to 15. Irving and 3.J. keyed a 10-1 run to get Cleveland back. Bradley Beal seemed like the Wizards best player, with polish beyond his years: smart no-look passes, smooth jumpers, and general headiness. Dellavedova came in to play guard, and Kyrie moved off the ball with impressive benefits. Delly set up Kyrie with three straight triples and K.I. finished with 17 points in the first half. 49-45, Washington.
3rd Quarter: Lots of activity on the defensive boards and in the transition D early for Cleveland. The sense of urgency — lacking the last several games — had thankfully returned. Kyrie continued to be red hot and, TT hit a couple jumpers, and we had an Earl Clark sighting. Clark had a nice tone-setting block, a solid jumper, and was apart of the general feistiness around the basket. Delly came in early, and Irving moved off the ball. Delly continued to set up Kyrie in transition and looked really solid with the ball in his hands: confident in his dribble, looking out for teammates, with effort and hustle on both sides of the ball. But his shooting still looks rough. I really would rather Karasev be playing here, but I can’t deny Matthew’s positive effects on the game.
The Cavs went cold again when Kyrie went to the bench, and Jarret Jack-up-15-footers came into the game. Washington stretched the lead back to nine, but Jarret hit a floater and falling-on-his-butt rainbow J to close out the quarter, cutting the lead to 69-64, Wizards.
4th Quarter: Earl Clark! Started the quarter with a straight on three, off a pick and pop from Delly. Delly has a real knack for playing the point, but not pounding the ball. He gets it into the flow of the offense early, and hits guys when they’re open, instead of at the last possible second. Earl — again! — for three off a possession where every Cavalier touched the ball. Cavs went small for much of this quarter with Clark at the small, Andy at the five, and Jack, Irving, and Delly. Kyrie was just absolutely pouring points in from the line, off the dribble — where he burned three Wizards on one possession, and from three. He’d notched 28 with five minutes left in the game. Cleveland retook the lead when Clark hit yet another three. This was easily his best quarter of the season. The lead bounced back and forth, and back and forth until it was 82-80, Washington with five minutes left.
Crunch Time: Nene became the primary scoring option for the Wiz, as he consistently beat Earl Clark, who headed to the bench after a bad traveling turnover. TT returned, and the three headed Kyrett Irvavedojack guard monster continued to push the pace and get Cleveland into their offense early. Washington stretched the lead to five, and the Delly went to the lane, faked a pass to the right corner, and dropped in an absolutely filthy and fearless teardrop over Nene. That shot looked like it was launched some time in 1954. Kyrie followed with a free throw line J off the pick to cut it to one with two minutes left. TT picked up a trash ball that bounced all over the court, and slammed over Nene to take the lead!
Have to give Kyrie credit. He worked on defense this game: chasing guards around screens, trying not to get beat off the dribble; but he bailed out John Wall when he fouled him badly on a 20 footer which to a lead for Washington. Then Kyrie turned the ball over off the dribble, and Beal grabbed it and raced ahead. Andy, TT, Jack, and Delly raced after the break. Beal somehow got all twisted at mid-court, lost the ball behind him, fell on his butt, and Delly picked it up in an amazing moment of fortuitous hustle. Kyrie picked drew a foul on Webster and regained the lead at the line.
It was 90-90, 24 seconds left after a Nene free throw. Kyrie tried to beat Nene and Wall dribbling to his right off the pick and roll, and Nene knocked it away. Andy had a wide open look at the free throw line there, but one knock on Kyrie is that he never passes in last possession situations, which makes double teaming him a much easier proposition.
Thankfully, Washington had “taken a step” after they stole the ball with one second left. Washington was forced to try a full court pass play after the time out, instead of getting it at mid court. (Did anyone else know about this rule, cause I sure didn’t). A harmless Nene fadeaway from 25 fell short and the quarter closed 90-90.
Oooooovertime: Gortat tipped one in right away to take the lead, and Kyrie beat Wall and drew a foul on Nene driving from at an absolutely perfect angle to tie it at the line. After trading empty possessions, Andy found Kyrie in the corner who pump faked and pulled up for the lead! Then off a Beal miss, where K.I. left his man to close out, Irving pushed the ball up the left side. Delly set an unbelievably heady open court screen on Wall, and Kyrie pulled up from the wing for three. Great shot, and a great screen to push the lead to five with three minutes left.
Nene beat Andy on a left elbow post up to cut it to three. Next possession: TT got two straight offensive rebounds off Kyrie misses, Jack almost lost the ball and then he drained a left elbow pull-up! After a Washington miss, K.I. started another possession in the left corner, Andy got it up top, fed Kyrie with a bounce pass of the cut, then Kyrie hit a pull-up two to push the lead to a commanding seven with 1:30 left. After trading a series of misses and a couple meaningless baskets, the game ended 103-96, Cavs.
Thoughts: Cleveland finally made some adjustments on offense, moving K.I. off the ball and getting him on the move: setting him up as a scoring guard to devastating effect: 41 points, off 14-28 shooting, 9-9 from the line, and 4-7 from three with four boards, five assists, and two steals (and six turnovers). Much of the action late came with Jack and Andy running high pick and roll, and Kyrie cutting or shooting from the left corner. Kyrie’s defense was very engaged in the last quarter and overtime, and though he was beat a couple time,s he also helped out, forced tough shots, and most importantly competed.
TT had some huge plays to bail out possessions with jumpers and also had several key offensive rebounds late, and he finished with 15 and 12. The Cavs ran a ton of offense through Andy, getting him the ball in the high post off the pick and pop, and Andy delivered 6 dimes. Earl Clark looked much better at the power forward in the fourth quarter than he has at the small forward. Perhaps he should stay there.
I can’t decide what it says about Chris Grant that the Cavs’ best rookie so far is an undrafted free agent who only got a look because he played at St. Mary’s with Mike Brown’s son, but Delly played like a 10 year vet. He had definite chemistry with Irving, and shared Irving’s game leading +16 plus/minus score. He had only two points but added six boards two steals, and two assists. The score keepers definitely short changed him in the dimes department. He also helped cool off Bradley Beal in the second half. If Matt can get a consistent shot and scoring moves, he could stick in the NBA.
I don’t know what M.B. has against Miles but 16 minutes seemed like a low number. Jack and Delly got Miles’ minutes, and perhaps that was by design to get Irving going. The Cavs made nice adjustments, finally, to make the offense effective
Before the game, Mike Brown addressed the rumors that Dion’s absence was anything other than what the team has said it was.
“He’s been to the doctor twice,” Brown said. “Somebody says they’re sick, they go to the doctor, the doctor takes care of it and we move on.”
Well, that was unconvincing… But the Cavs played with energy and purpose. It doesn’t matter that they seem completely dysfunctional as an organization. It doesn’t matter that Dion and not Corey Brewer might have broken Kyrie’s nose and given him a black eye. It doesn’t matter that Cleveland had over 20 turnovers (again). It doesn’t matter that Jarrett Jack ticked off the Wiz by scoring a garbage time bucket with a 7 point lead and no shot clock. It doesn’t matter that the Cavs shouldn’t be too excited about beating the second worst team in the East (and thus avoiding that fate themselves). It doesn’t matter that Anthony Bennett racked up another DNP:CD. All that matters, for now, is that the Cavs finally won a game on the road, that they snapped a three game losing skid, and that superstar Kyrie Irving — the masked avenger — is back.
— Update —
This Jason Lloyd piece covers a lot of the Dion mystery, including the news that Dion has been demoted to the second team and about a billion other Cavs related bits… Strange days, indeed.
First of all, the term reach is dubious in a draft that has two rounds. This is a hangover from the NFL Draft where a team ABSOLUTELY can reach (hello Browns!) I loved Drummond coming into that draft but he was not in the conversation no matter how many obscure draft predictions Nate can dredge up (Buzzfeed? Really?). To be fair, Dion was not mentioned as a top 4 either. The flaming pile of garbage (who I hated at the time. Look it up on here) Thomas Robinson was seen as a Top 4. I don’t know why I have… Read more »
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1233721-nba-mock-draft-2012-pick-by-pick-predictions-for-rounds-1-2/page/6 Drummond 5th Waiters 8th http://sports.yahoo.com/news/y-sports-draftexpress-2012-nba-mock-draft-no-205400187–nba.html Drummond 6th Waiters 11th http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/2012-NBA-mock-draft-Anthony-Davis-Bradley-Beal-Michael-Kidd-Gilchrist-Thomas-Robinson-062712 Drummond 5th Waiters 12th http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/14738466/37170870 Drummond 9th, Waiters 7th http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/story/2012-06-28/nba-mock-draft-final/55883258/1 Drummond 10th, Waiters 7th http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedsports/the-2012-nba-mock-mock-draft Drummond 7th, Waiters 8th http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-06-27/nba-mock-draft-bobcats-wizards-cavaliers-rockets-warriors-kings-raptors Drummond 7th, Waiters 6th The overwhelming theme of the draft was “after #1, no one knows what’s going to happen.” To say Drummond wasn’t in the conversation is a bit ridiculous. If he was in the conversation in the weeks leading up to the draft and the week of the draft, but the conversation “turned” a day or two before the draft, then it’s obvious he was being talked… Read more »
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/06/28/mock-draft-6-0-first-and-second-rounds/
Sheridan Hoops had Waiters at 7 and Drummond at 9.
Obviously, there was a pattern here. If you want to argue Barnes over Waiters, go right ahead. Drummond was not in play…it’s somewhat revisionist history to say he was. He would have been a more suprising pick than Waiters was at the time.
Did everyone see the Brandon Jennings pass to Drummond off the backboard last night? That play was awesome! Actually that game was surprisingly quite a bit of fun…both teams were playing fast…lots of alley-oops. For some reason, that isn’t what I was expecting from 2013 – 2014 Detroit vs LAL.
That said, Drummond is making 17% of his free throws this year and 36% for his career. If you go back and look, I had him 5th and Waiters 7th (I liked / like both), but man, how can he be sooo horrible at shooting free throws?
http://www.nbadraftinsider.com/2012-big-board/2012-nba-mock-draft/
Draft Insider had Waiters at 7 and Drummond at 9
http://nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft
NBA Draft Dot Net’s final mock at Waiters at 7 and Drummond at 8.
Oops. I had two links in previous comment. It got filed in the spam folder. I forgot about that.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Andre-Drummond-5772/mock-draft-history/
Draft Express had Drummond at #9 in their final mock before draft night. You can see from his mock draft chart that he was considered top 3 material until the month of the draft when his stock continually dropped and many expected him to bust.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dion-Waiters-5738/mock-draft-history
On the flip side, Waiters wasn’t even thought of as lottery material until the week preceding the draft, but his stock was very much on the rise as the draft approached. Draft Express had him at #7 in their final mock.
If only one of the 30 teams thought Drummond was going to grow as he has they would have certainly traded up to grab him once the pick got to 3 or 4.
Nate, please provide any support for your claim that Drummond was considered a viable pick at #4. I don’t remember any speculation to that at all. Every single mock draft and article I recall had the Cavs taking MKG, Beal, Barnes, or Waiters.
I do agree that there was talk of Drummond as a top 3 pick BEFORE his college season, but that talk was long gone after his year at UConn.
I also agree that Dion will end up being a very good player too.
Disagree with almost everything you said about Drummond, Nate. Drummond had a Dwight Howard body, but largely looked lost on the court – as if he had zero basketball instincts. He did not produce like a top pick. He was impressive, however, when he decided to move that body in a particular direction. Few could slow his momentum when he put his head down to go somewhere – and that’s how he did it. He was young and has since picked a few things up. However, it’s clear that his bust potential was considered to be high (the highest of… Read more »
Drummond certainly was in play at the four, and he was more “in play” than Waiters. Drummond was projected ahead of Waiters on almost every draft board. Furthermore, before his college season, there was serious talk of Drummond being a top 3 pick. As for “most likely to bust,” that is a dubious claim too. Drummond had ridiculously good athletic tests for a guy his size, but a terrible year at UConn, a terrible free throw stroke, and delusions of grandeur. (The player he said he was most like was “Kevin Durant.”) The athletics and pre-college rankings kept him in… Read more »
KJ’s point, and I actually agree with him (I know, I’m surprised too), is that Drummond wasn’t even in play at the #4 pick. At the time, he was considered by many to be the #1 likeliest bust in that draft class. You wouldn’t be able to find a single mock draft or article from that year’s draft suggesting he was a possible top 4 pick. He wasn’t even in the discussion there, realistically. But yes, Blip, if we could know then what we know now, I would prefer Drummond. It’s just revisionist history though, and that’s KJ’s point. Although,… Read more »
Is there anyone other than KJ that thinks Dion was a better pick than Drummond? Not that the Cavs even considered Drummond, but seriously, how can any rational being think that Dion was a better pick.
I was TICKED OFF when watching the loss to Bobcats (the game which was followed by the players’ meeting). They looked DREADFUL. They are a complete dumpster fire on offense so far this year. Kyrie looks like he has regressed. The return of Mike Brown “offense” has returned along with his expected defensive improvements. Too bad we can’t have Mike Brown coach defense and Byron Scott coach offense. I have been a part of MUCH better offensive flow in pick-up games. They don’t run any semblance of actual plays, there is no ball movement, and no player movement. With that… Read more »
Andy “not guarding people” is a function of the defense more than it is a function of any shortcomings. The defense is designed for the big to hedge on the pick and roll, and for the other big to slide over to help if the roll man moves before the “hedger” can recover. They’re allowed to switch if the hedger can’t get back to his own guy in time. Hence, the two bigs often hand their man off to the other. Also, as the recap notes, Nene did a lot of his damage against Clark. Offensively, I don’t see anything… Read more »
Yeah, scotch, you’re right. I’m a dummy: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9123204/luke-walton-reggie-evans-marco-belinelli-more-surprisingly-important-nba-players
Luke Walton won us games?? KJ you’re a riot. Although, you know what? I kinda agree with you. But I love that you threw that out there without any attached evidence or defense of the statement.
As I said pre-game yesterday, clearly the best way for our “superstar” to be most effective is to play him at least half the game off the ball. We’ve seen his two best games (though oddly both were over-time) when they went to the 3guard line-up. Other thoughts: Luke Walton won us games last year. Let’s not go “Delly” nuts. The only good thing he did was keep the ball moving and bringing the ball up allowing Kyrie and Jack to play offense off the ball. He also hustled on D though he made a couple of glaring rookie mistakes… Read more »
Brown likes effort guys. CJ is a jack it up guy and though his length helps him on defense, he doesn’t really play hard on that end of the floor. Plus, he hogs precious opportunities for Kyrie to shoot out of this slump. Shooting is a confidence thing. Once kyrie’s confidence begins to rise again, he should be able to get 20+ a night on 15ish shots, as long as he’s getting to the line. That will open up literally everything else we need to have happen to make an offense work. More shots for others, better driving lanes for… Read more »
Delly’s not a gifted player. He’s a glue guy. He never walked the ball up the court and that leads to openings and opportunities because it removes some predictability and adds an element of randomness to the offense. Kyrie is much more effective when he splits duties between #1 & #2. I thought our most effective game thusfar was when Dion and Kyrie took turns being the point. Kyrie was very successful when Delly handled the ball . . . and had gas in the tank at the end. Clark brings things to the table, but is up and down.… Read more »
I have it on good authority that Dion is sick (and obviously did not give Kyrie a black eye). Anything to the contrary is pure internet bullshit…
I do think the subtle adjustments that they made for Kyrie helped get him going. It’s also a make-or-miss league, and he hit plenty of shots he just wasn’t hitting recently as well.
What on earth are they doing with Dion? Even if Brown or whoever doesn’t think he’s the right fit, you don’t ruin his trade value like this…
Possible logical theories about Dion’s supposed benching A. Dion was 6th man in college, so maybe if he is on 2nd team now, it was partially on his own design, and not because of chemistry issues. A.1. There is a trade soon (i.e. Iman Shumpert) and Dion will be moved there to make way for player X to start and so Dion can do his 6th man thing. B. He is actually causing issues chemistry wise and needs to be taken away from a certain player. B.1. He is going to get traded soon and is just being taken out… Read more »
I agree with Ryan that mostly Kyrie just got hot with the hero ball stuff, and that is why we one. As Nate mentions, there was SOME progress on offense (better passing, Kyrie off the ball etc.), but at the end they just went hero ball again. Delly was fine, but man is he limited. He doesn’t have the quickness to be a good rotation player in the NBA. If his effort can light a fire under more talented players, then he is helpful. But he is too limited himself to deserve the minutes he gets. But a W is… Read more »
Could we please stop feeding the trolls who want to make up all the stories about Dion. As of right now there is know support for the theory he punched Kyrie. Even suggesting it just feeds all the annoying internet trolls. This game gave me major concerns. 1.) Mike Brown has no idea about a rotation. Personally, I think developing our young talent is more important than winning. If Delly is part of this teams long term plan we are in real trouble. Those minutes should be going to Karasev who is actually a part of the teams future. 2.)… Read more »