Above Par, Chandler Parsons
2014-07-03I love Chandler Parsons. My girlfriend thinks he’s a model, and basketball nuts think he’s a bargain for what he has done for the Rockets as a second round pick. However, if you search the words “Cavs” and “Chandler Parsons” on Google, there are only two articles, both from Cavs’ blogs, even fathoming the idea of Parsons coming to the Cavs. I know it’s a long shot. The Cavs would most likely have to pay him above his actual value of $8-10 million a year, and even if they they did over pay him, the Rockets could match the offer or make the Cavs do a sign and trade deal for him. He might not even sign a Cleveland offer sheet solely because he values big city life or just warm weather. He’s a valuable player in the modern NBA, which is why so many teams are contemplating making an offer to him.
Marc Spears at Yahoo is reporting that the Timberwolves, Lakers, Mavericks, and Bulls may be interested in Parsons depending on how free agency works out with some of the bigger names. If the Cavs are serious about making an impact in free agency and throughout the next season, they need to consider him.
Parsons is 6’9” and just came off of a season averaging 16.6 points, four assists, and 5.5 rebounds per game while shooting 37.8% from behind the three. He would be an immediate upgrade over anyone the team had last season at the three spot and is an offensive upgrade over Andrew Wiggins currently. CJ Miles, now a Pacer, shot the best three ball of any wing player on the Cavs last season at 39%, and Parsons would come in at the top of the team this year for a wing player shooting the three. His shooting would help space a team that is going to have trouble if Wiggins and a power forward or center that can’t space the floor are playing together.
Even though Parsons can make the three ball and will spread the floor, it is his size, shot selection, usage rate, and offensive passing ability that make him so appealing for the Cavs.
At 6’9” Parsons can play power forward if need be. The Rockets fourth most used lineup with Parsons had him playing with Jeremy Lin, Dwight Howard, James Harden, and Omri Casspi. Surprisingly, of the five most common lineups with Parsons, this lineup was the best rebounding one grabbing 6.6 more boards than opponents, and this group gathered 5.5 more assists than opponents. Parsons is better when he’s playing big, so he should probably start pounding cheese burgers to fit in with the front court of the Cavs. Parsons’ ability to play big also allows him to play next to Andrew Wiggins if Wiggins is at the three, so there is no need to worry about Wiggins losing minutes.
My favorite part about Parsons is how he has embraced efficient basketball. This is something the Cavs desperately need to learn because they aren’t matching up well with the best teams in the league.
Almost 31% percent of the Cavs’ shots were long two pointers, and they barely took any corner threes. They also have no problem going into the paint where a ton of defenders are constantly lingering. Take a look at the Spurs’ and Heat’s shot distribution if you want to be depressed by a comparison. Parsons could come in and change that depression. Look at his shot distribution:
Parsons shoots three point shots and shots extremely close to the hoop. He uses his pump fake as a way to get to the rim. The players Parsons would be taking time from couldn’t figure out the whole “shooting good shots” thing last season. Anthony Bennett took 35% of his shots in the mid-range area (maybe there was candy there). Hopefully under David Blatt, Parsons’ attitude about shooting would spread to the rest of the team.
Parson’s also knows how to play with ball dominant guards. He was content to take open catch and shoots (he shot 38.5% from three on catch and shoots) and drive when he was closed out on. James Harden had a usage rate of 26.8%. Kyrie Irving and Dion Waiters have usage rates of 27.8% and 25.7% respectively. It’s easy to see Parsons playing alongside the Cleveland back court players because he’s already used to playing with a high usage player.
What’s even greater about Parsons is that he and Bennett are swappable usage rate wise. Bennett had a usage rate 18.7% while Parsons had a usage rate of 18.6%. Parsons is plug and play for the Cavs.
And, when you swap out Bennett for Parsons, good things will happen offensively. Parsons actually assisted on 17.3% of plays while Bennett assisted on 4% of plays and turned the ball over at a 15.5% rate. Parsons, on the other hand, turned it over at only an 11.7% rate: a positive offensive passing effect. To make it more easy to understand Parson’s offensive passing ability think of Dion Waiters. Waiters assisted at an 18.3% rate. Parsons would come in as a top passer for the Cavs.
Defensively, Parsons is lacking when you look at his ratings. He comes with a defensive rating of 108, which is somehow worse than Anthony Bennett’s rating of 107. Yet, I don’t think Parsons is that bad at defense. When you watch him, he always seems to be moving, and with the length he possess, he should be causing issues for opponents. Parsons is the victim of playing with lineups where over half of the team doesn’t focus on defense. Dwight Howard, Omer Asik, and Patrick Beverly were the only players that were defensive minded with the Rockets last season. On top of that, Parsons, playing at the small forward, was often left with James Harden who played little to no defense at times, and he inevitably had to cover Harden’s man too. Parsons also played with the second team, which could be damaging his rating too.
–
During the end of the season press conference, David Griffin said how he felt the Cavs should build the team going forward.
“We need to be bigger. We need to be much smarter as a team; our basketball needs to improve. Our shooting needs to improve. I feel strongly that our toughness needs to improve. Those are things we need to address all within the confines of fit.”
Parsons meets all of those criteria. He’s 6’9” as a small forward, which is typically the height of a power forward. He assists like a shooting guard, and has played with ball dominant players, which would make his transition to playing with Kyrie and Dion very easy. Parsons is the player David Griffin would create if he could design a player from scratch, so why not try to sign him?
Lebron’s agent has met with Gilbert…..Jesus I cannot sleep considering on July 3rd, the news stated the CAVS couldn’t get his ear let alone a meeting.
Get Nash? Fat expiring deal, captain of team Canada, QB coach for Kyrie. Whats not to like?
I was thinking the same thing.
He’d eat up like $9M? Why would we do that? That’s absurd.
FAT. EXPIRING. DEAL.
But we have the cap space to sign guys THIS offseason. What good does the expiring deal do us? Instead of signing a FA this offseason, trade for a washed up and injured backup PG so that we can maybe trade him for an asset later? Again, why would we do that?
JUST READ ON bleacher report ( rumor ) that cavs will not offer Hayward an offer sheet —–did not specify a reason ??
Let’s hope it’s because the meeting with LeBron went well and he’s coming back.
you bloggers have changed my mind—-yesterday I thought the price was ” WAY TOO HIGH FOR HAYWARD “—-reading the blogs today have convinced me this is the right guy to go after and money well spent
Hayward was the 9th pick overall for a reason. He still has upside. CAVS are overpaying no matter who it is. GHay is worth the risk IMO.
He was a near all star last year. He’s 24. He’s going to get much better. He’s a floor leader that makes everyone around him better.
Free agents in general are overpaid, also smaller market teams generally have to overpay to get/keep top talent. So the fact that we may overpay a guy like Hawward isn’t surprising nor is it a sign of ‘bad management’ or being desperate. All things considered, I he’s the type of player that fits our needs well, hasn’t hit his prime yet and in the right system (which we have to assume/hope Blatt puts in place), then we should only expect him to be better than past season. Unlike Parson, Hayward didn’t really have a supporting cast to take the pressure… Read more »
I agree on Hayward. He’s a do-it-all forward who has yet to hit his prime. He’d be surrounded by a ton of talent on this roster. He’d be a guy that could absolutely thrive as a 3rd option. Further, his intangibles and basketball IQ have been talked about positively. Give me a smart SF who can score 20-30 any given night, and I’ll gladly sign up. The last thing we need is a FA who demands the ball to be successful. I don’t think Hayward is that type of player. We have that in Kyrie and somewhat in Waiters. It’s… Read more »
I think Hayward averaged 5 assists per game as a small forward last year – even though he was asked to take on the scoring burden for the team. That’s a Blatt type of player.
Hayward’s shooting percentage was down last year while he played in the primary scorer role, but the year before when he was able to let the game come to him he was a very good shooter.
just watched a video of LeBron’s son catching a tuna and LeBron ” going nuts ” —-has anyone mentioned to him some of the best fishing in the world is right here on lake erie —-MAYBE THAT IS GOOD ” BAIT ” FOR THE CAVS TO GO LEBRON FIHING/ TROLLING
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11172162/al-farouq-aminu-gustavo-ayon-top-best-value-deals-free-agency-nba
Interesting look at the cheaper “values” available.
Love Aminu, think he’s be a great 3/4 defender, but Ayon can’t stay healthy. If he could, I’d have mentioned him yesterday.
Minor point, although Parsons is listed at 6’9″, he measured 6’8.75″ in socks at the combine so he’s a legit 6’10” in shoes.
This is a crap free agent class and everyone has a lot of cap space so everyone is getting overpaid.
Yeah, Lebron, Bosh, Wade, Anthony, Lowry, Gasol, etc.
What a crappy free agent class. It’s unbelievably crappy.
Lowry already resigned. Gasol is dang near washed up. Bosh and Wade were never going anywhere. I’m still doubtful LeBron leaves. So yeah, some people would say it’s Carmelo and not much else.
Even if you included all of the guys you mentioned, it’s a precipitous drop off after those guys other than guys like Parsons, Hayward, and Monroe – all of which are restricted free agents and much tougher to actually pry away from their current teams.
It doesn’t change the fact that this is a very good free agent class. You can’t just decide it sucks because those players aren’t going to sign with your favorite team. And Gasol is not washed up.
And I’d say it does make it a very SHALLOW free agent pool. And with that being the case, it goes back to what Jhill said, lots of teams have cap space but since the options are very limited, we are seeing inflated deals for mediocre role players.
It’s a deep “technically a free agent” pool but a very shallow “free agent who is realistically available to all 30 teams” pool
It’s just very top heavy. 6 guys and then there is a MAJOR drop down to the next tier.
I don’t care who we sign. Just get one more “really good” player.
I don’t care what we pay. If you have a roster of 12 players that are all bargains – you probably aren’t very good. Every team should have an overpaid player or two.
the so called ” experts ” said the offer made to Hayward is way too much for his talent level—–is this what we are to expect in the free agent landscape always over paying players to intice to come to Cleveland—don’t get me wrong I am very supportive in going after free agents / players ( you need this to stay competitive ) but it seems the players and their agents will always ” HANG THIS OVER OUR HEADS—-USE IT AS A BARGAINING TOOL ” to force us to overpay players—-just my thought—-also if we play the waiting game with… Read more »
I had a hard time reconciling this too. However, I think e have to overpay right now. The talentis needed and there is no otherway to get it now. Are we over-paying? Yes, but we are acquiring young, talented guys and right now we can afford it. Maybe once we establish a winning culture that people want to be a part of we can get guys for cheaper, but until then we eed to get the right players hwever we can.
Part of the problem with Parsons and Hayward is that the CBA makes it a pain in the butt to negotiate with restricted free agents. That’s why Hayward hasn’t gotten an offer sheet. You can’t actually sign an offer sheet till the 8th, and the team has three days to match. If you’re pitching verbal contracts on the 2nd, that ties up your cap space for nine days. Say LeBron says he wants to explore playing in Cleveland during that time. You can’t pull your verbal offer to Hayward. No agent would work with you again. Parsons is in an… Read more »
Agreed. Would be stunned if we made an offer for either before July 8th
Parsons is no way worth overpaying for. Hayward on the other hand is because he is more talented with more upside.
I thought this piece really was a good write up. It has a nice blend of qualitative reasoning offset by a healthy usage of stats that are comprehensive to the larger picture. There isn’t an over-reliance on stats to make points and even falls back on the ol’ eye test to question the validity of the defensive rating stats. Way to look at the player through multiple lenses of perspective — it really gave me what I feel is a good understanding of the free agent! That being said, I vote Parsons > Hayward
I agree with the post, except that I vote Hayward > Parsons.
It depends on the salary. Parsons at 9 million year, I will take it; no way he is worth 12-15 a year unlike Hayward.
As much as I doubt Lebron is leaving Miami – his apparent wait and see approach to free agency is actually saving the Cavs from making a dumb mistake.
The Cavs shouldn’t sign Hayward or Parsons to max or near-max deals. Neither is the type of player that can carry a team. Nor should they pay $10M for Ariza who is essentially a journeyman player with two good seasons and a memorable playoff run at LAL.
We ought to focus on developing the talent we have rather than overpaying a free agent just to show we’ll spend money.
Hayward and Parsons are compared a lot. For those who are in the know, who is better? Also, which team is more likely to match if we make a big offer, Utah or Houston?
I don’t want Ariza at the price Hayward and Parsons are going for.
Hard to say who is better – their counting stats are similar. The advanced stats seem to prefer Parsons but he was operating as the #3 option on offense while Hayward was operating as the #1 option in a horrible Utah offense. I think Utah is much more likely to match if we make a big offer to Hayward than Houston would be if we made a big offer to Parsons. However, there have been no reports of Parsons being interested in Cleveland and there’s little to suggest that he would sign an offer sheet with the Cavs. There’s a… Read more »
Last season Hayward had to facilitate a lot so his percentages dropped but I think looking at their career as a whole both bring similar shooting, passing, and good defense to the table. The place where I see a slight difference is Parsons is comfortable playing as a small ball 4, while Hayward seems like he would be primarily guarding 2-3’s and off the ball pg’s. The rumors are that both will get matched, but from what I’ve read it seems like Houston has found a salary cap loop hole and will match instantly, and the Jazz are a more… Read more »
Sorry for the double info, Ross’s post was hidden from me.
The difference between Hayward and Parsons is Parsons is a 2nd round draft pick with no upside. He is plateaued, and I would go as far to say he is an overachiever. Hayward, on the other hand, has upside and was the 9th pick overall for a reason. He has potential. Parsons and Hayward are hardly the same player. I am taking Hayward all day long.
I think Utah are more likely to match. They have just begun a full rebuild and Hayward fits with their team direction. Houston will probably match too, but with them already paying Howard and Harden the max I doubt they would be thrilled to have a third max player on their books – particularly as their Parson containing roster couldn’t make it out of the 1st round the playoffs. If they want to win a championship they need more star players and paying 4 guys the max I don’t think can be done with the new CBA without incurring extortionate… Read more »
I think Parsons is the better choice when compared to Hayward. Hayward is used to having the ball a ton while. However, I think Utah is less likely to match. They’re in asset collection mode. They drafted a redundant player with Exum and just have a lot of average to above average players. Houston might be willing to spend, but I think they feel like they can get a guy like Parsons on the cheap. Spencer Hawes? He could act as another floor spacer for Houston if that’s their concern. He isn’t a sf but he can give them shooting… Read more »
Actually, Utah’s probably more likely to match because they’re so far below the cap.
Not to mention, they have said that they will match ANY offer for Hayward. Rockets haven’t said anything like that in regards to Parsons, unless I missed it.
I will reiterate that Parsons is a 2nd round pick with no upside. He has reached his potential while Hayward was 9 overall and still has an upside yet to be seen.
Something is up with LeBron. He is doing his weird “distant” routine, the same thing he did before he bailed on Cleveland. This doesn’t mean he is coming back here, but I think the chance he leaves Miami is bigger than many believe.
Agreed. I think LeBron is probably gone from Miami unless Wade/Bosh take pay cuts and the extra room brings a better player to town.
The fact that Bosh said that the joy had gone out of the team tells me its time to break up the SuperFriends. Who knows, though.
Having LeBron back in Cleveland would be an amazing thing, but it still seems like an impossible long shot.
And Parsons is a great catch. Would love to see him come to down.
Chris Broussard was on Cowherd’s show about a half hour ago. He sounds like he knows what he is talking about, and is fun to listen to as he politely pokes holes in Cowherd’s goofy theories. Today, Cowherd was yammering on about why LeBron would wind up in Miami, NY, LA, (other big cities). Broussard said (something like) “It always comes back to NY for you, doesn’t it”, and “What about Cleveland? That is the obvious place. This year or next year.”. He also said LBJ+DW+CB just had lunch last week, and did not decide anything; and DW+CB have told… Read more »
Exactly. This Broussard story came out last night. It doesn’t mean he is coming home, but it sure sounds like he is really thinking hard about SOMETHING. And whatever that SOMETHING is, it is not unreasonable to think Cleveland might be part of it.
The good thing – I know Griff and Gilbert are all over this. So whatever they do, I think they will keep an eye on LBJ and strike if any opportunity arises.
Agreed. There’s no way Lebron’s camp is just sittng there doing nothing, knowing very well that the longer they stay silent, it forces other teams to look elsewhere, limiting their options. Something is going on behind the scenes that is being kept very hush hush. I bet that- just like the staged “Decision”- Lebron has already made his choice. He’s just keeping quiet this time to avoid controversy.
If I had to guess, I’d say…..New York.
Why New York? Melo just going on his NBA tour for kicks and giggles?
I think LeBron would have to bear just as much of a burden in New York if not more than he does in Miami.
Carmelo shot 40% from three last year and 45% overall with 8.1 rebounds while pretty much being the only player on the Knicks. His PER of 24.5 was pretty damn good.
People are really underestimating how good Carmelo has become.
You are falsely assuming I was not valuing Carmelo extremely highly. Perhaps you are underestimating how bad the rest of the team has become.
I think the Zen master is letting Melo go, and will rebuild the Knicks around Lebron. Lest you forget? Lebron going to Tribe games wearing Yankee hats? How he fawns over the history of MSG every time he plays there? Phil Jackson has a plan. He didn’t go to NY on a wing and a prayer. I’ll bet he’s been telling Lebron for years how perfect he’d be for the triangle offense. Lebron has been turning down money for years in the name of chasing rings. As he approaches the downslope of his playing career, there is no market in… Read more »
That’s all well and good. LeBron likes the Yankees and MSG. Phil may have been reaching out to him – though it’s never been in the press that they have any kind of relationship with each other. And LeBron has been turning down money for years in order to win titles. That’s still ignoring some VERY IMPORTANT details. 1. LeBron wants the MAX SALARY now. He’s never been the highest paid player on his team. The Knicks have very few options (if any) to get the kind of cap room needed to offer LeBron a deal in the $20M to… Read more »
Even if Melo leaves, Lebron would have to be a sign and trade. The Knicks are at $59 million in payroll without Melo. Lebron isn’t signing for the mid-level, Miami is reluctant to make a sign and trade, Knicks lack assets, etc.
If Lebron leaves I see him staying in the East as appealing as the Rockets and Clippers scenarios could be. He’s not stupid. He wants the path of least resistance to the finals.
Yeah, one issue with the Knicks is cap-space. They need to do a sign and trade for LBJ even if Melo leaves. Which is possible, but hard.
I don’t think LBJ has a secret plan to go to NY. Melo is genuinely on the market, and LBJ would need to see what he does first. I think LBJ is waiting for Melo to make a decision, and waiting to see who Miami can get. Then I think he will engage more with non-Miami teams.
But who really knows. I still think CLE has a chance.
I agree with you. NY Knicks do not have the space to sign Lebron as a FA, and do not have the resources to engineer a sign & trade. We waste brain cells thinking about junk like this. Lebron is going to go to a team that will be competitive NEXT year.
Agree but the odds of that are as good as Wahoo being around in two years. Miami not getting Lowry and Gortat certainly helps. Hopefully Pau and every other free agent of interest they want sign elsewhere are true also.
I think LeBron is the best fit for us at the 3.
I had a nagging feeling he was leaving in 2010. His attitude and lack of contact just screamed “Im gone”.
I have a nagging feeling he’s coming back…seems like he’s sending those same messages to Riles and the superfriends…
Nice write up. I agree with all of your points. The Hayward max offer might have been overblown since he didn’t receive an actual offer yet, but I would be fine with either player. I assumed that Hayward would find cleveland more appealing as a potential destination since he’s from Indiana and has played four seasons in Utah. I wouldn’t mind Griffin offering either player $12-$14 million because both would fit Blatt’s system so well and would give the Cavs another player they can count on for consistent production. The Cavs have to overpay to get players to come to… Read more »