Recap: Cavs 119, Bulls 112 (or, Point of Order)
2017-10-25So, let’s see… you traded away your All-Star point guard in the off-season, your two best replacements are injured and more injured, and your remaining back up choices are between a fork-wearing octogenarian Spaniard and a dude who’s recent play is reminiscent of taking a dump in a shower because the tiny dude you just cut is about to have his coming home revenge game. How do you plead? Or, more importantly… to whom?
That’s easy… you turn to King Judge James to restore some order to your court.
Proving there’s really not much left that he can’t do in the grand scheme of basketball, LeBron answered the call after his head coach, Ty Lue, roped him into starting point guard duties… and responded with a game high 34 points and 13 assists (the 25th time in his career he’s posted at least 30 + 12 – the most of any active player). And, as impressive as the numbers are… they don’t come close to presenting the full case for LBJ’s greatness. It was how he got those points and assists… driving and kicking relentlessly, threading holes smaller than needle eyes, seeing the court from every conceivable angle, and fully controlling the Cavalier offensive attack. He didn’t even bother with rebounds, as he totally embraced his role as the ruler of the rock and arbiter of assistance.
The Cavs would need all of the jurisprudence LeBron could dish out on this night, as their defense (not unlike their poor outing on Saturday) continued to rest for much of the first half. The mostly unknown “Baby Bulls” must have missed the tanking memo handed out by management following training camp (maybe they were distracted by that time Bobby Portis rearranged Nicola Mirotic’s face), because they came out looking to stampede the wine & gold with a barrage of threes. Like the Magic did in the previous game, the Bulls knocked down 17 triples (on 33 attempts for nearly 52%) for the game, and many of those rained down in the first half. Rookie, Lauri Markkanen (heretofore known as Baby Unicorn), was the primary culprit, swishing 4-5 from downtown with relative ease as the Cavs offered precious little resistance. The big Fin would finish with 19 points and eight boards, although he did most of his damage in the first two quarters.
The poorly constructed defense mounted by the Cavs nearly surrendered 40 points to the supposedly-horri-Bulls (38 to be exact), and just shy of 70 (68) for the half. It was clear that at least part of the issue was the factor of a fourth starting lineup in four games, but it was also clearly apparent shoddy effort, poor rotations and lazy (or non-existent) closeouts on shooters. Aside from Baby Unicorn going ham, Justin Holiday continued to not take one against the Cavs, also knocking down threes (4-9) and pouring in 25 points for the game. And, since of course no insult should be deprived of its injury, newly acquired backup PG, Kay Felder (aka Killer Shrimp), returned to torment the team that just dumped him. Perhaps upset that the Cavs didn’t even consider giving him a tribute video… K Shrimp decided to use his highlight reel in the second quarter as exhibit A. The diminutive guard scored 13 points in just 16 minutes with four assists, and even hit a pair of threes to make life at least partially miserable for concerned Cavs fans in the gallery.
Fortunately, LeBron was there to restore order, keeping the Cavaliers in striking distance with 23 of his points in the first half (4-4 on threes, the last one to pull them within three at the half, 68-65). He also got some early assistance from Dwayne Wade and Jeff Green, who ran the second unit well… and even some surprise testimony from Channing Frye who returned from the Roadtrippin’ witness protection program with eight points in seven minutes. CFrye was perfect on three attempts including a three. Still, it took until the second half for the Cavs to finally all rise defensively to help the honorable Judge James.
After surrendering 68 points in the first 24 minutes… the Cavs turned the screws on the Baby Bulls in the remaining 24, holding them to a more reasonable 44. From the sound of it, Coach Lue chewed his team out at halftime… although commenter JoeyB had a different suggestion for the halftime reversal:
JoeyB
Bulls halftime speech: “Uh, guys, you know we’re tanking, right?”
But seriously, the Cavs did start actually hustling more defensively and forcing the Bulls into at least somewhat contested shots. LeBron also really dropped the hammer on Chicago, dissecting them with ridiculous dimes repeatedly in the second half, fueling a 15-3 run midway through the third to take the lead. Even though the Bulls came back to lead briefly going into the fourth, in a flash of white lightning… it was pretty much over. After a Kevin Love triple, Kyle Korver went all La Flama Blanca and torched the Bulls for two threes in 33 seconds. Chicago tried keeping it close as Denzel Valentine forgot the halftime message, sinking three triples in the quarter, but Judge James dismissed the Bulls with a left-handed layup over the Baby Unicorn.
The Evil:
The defense didn’t just rest in the first half… it was asleep. As Ty Lue said in his post-game interview, the Cavs have to stop spotting teams 17 three pointers. Obviously, it’s super early… and even more obviously, there hasn’t really been much in the way of continuity due to new pieces and injury. However, the trend of slow starts and poor effort on defense can and will certainly come back to haunt the Cavs on nights against better opponents, particularly on the road.
Ty Lue without being asked a question: “We can’t keep starting games like this. Thank God for our bench. 17 threes again.”
— Nikki Goel (@Mr_NikkiG) October 25, 2017
After some publicized grousing, JR Smith returned to the starting lineup tonight in place of Dwayne Wade. Maybe he was pressing, or maybe (as was reported earlier in the day) his back just wasn’t right and tightened up on him. Either way, he didn’t acquit himself well on the court. Swish was a dismal 1-8 (1-7 from deep), and committed a couple of silly fouls. He did at least contribute in other ways with four rebounds and four assists.
It’s time to hold Iman Shumpert in contempt. He was an absolute black hole on offense, and managed to get abused by Kay Felder on defense. About the only positive thing I can say about Shump is that, thanks to Urban Dictionary, I finally have a definitive metaphor to describe his playmaking ability…
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Shump&defid=8200722
The Genius:
Did I mention LeBron James…?
In addition to doing the bulk of the scoring and assisting, his three steals vaulted him past Paul Pierce for 19th all time in that category. And speaking of records, LeBron quietly tied Big Z for the all time team lead in regular season games played at 771.
Tonight, the Judge could rely on his bench, as the Cavs’ reserves combined for 46 points. Jeff Green led the way with a solid 16 points on 4-6 shooting (7-8 at the line), and Dwayne Wade (11 points, four assists, three boards), Kyle Korver (11 points, 3-6 from three), and Channing Frye all chipped in their support. No matter who’s on it, the second unit has been very sustainable thus far this season.
Kevin Love had another efficient double double (20 points, 12 rebounds) and really asserted his will on the offensive glass in the second half. Tristan Thompson also contributed nine boards and five points in his move back to the starting lineup, and Jae Crowder continued to be in the right places at the right times with 11 points (3-7 on threes) and some tough D in the second half. He’s close to automatic with that corner three now as well.
Ty Lue once again spread the minutes around and found a decent balance amongst the 10 guys he played. It would be great to see him find a way to work in Cedi Osman and Ante Zizic, but until there’s some garbage time to go around, that’s not likely. At least Channing got in and was able to make an impact.
Weird stat of the night: Both teams had identical rebounds (39), assists (28) and turnovers (9).
The Verdict:
Though it wasn’t exactly the kind of open and shut kind of game the Cavs should have had against a team that should really be in full on tanking mode, at least they were able to keep it close behind a superlative effort from LBJ at PG, and another terrific effort from the bench. One hopes this (and the Magic blowout before it) were more a product of inappropriate levels of effort against an inferior opponent, and not an ongoing mitigating flaw for this team.
Next up… the second back to back of the season against another surprising bottom-dweller turned upstart. One against whom a surprise loss would be doubly damaging to the value of the prized first round pick now residing in the Cavalier coffers. Yet, Ty Lue promises a continuation of this new starting five construct for at least two more games.
How you feel about some more time restoring order at the point, Bron?
I’ve been a Bledsoe fan for years and think he would be a great (potential) fit against GS. I would NOT trade the Brooklyn pick. HOWEVER, if you said 2 months ago that we could trade Kyrie for Thomas, Crowder, and Bledsoe, that would’ve sounded awesome. ?
What if it was top 7 protected
I guess I did say never, but if they agreed to top-7 protection and didn’t demand Cedi as well, I’d be in.
Live thread up a bit early tonight, folks. Go Cavs!
https://twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/923276984121282560
The Nets are leading the league in scoring.
Demarr Carroll has been impressive for Nets, so far.
Have you been enjoying your team of 6 year olds throwing mouthguards and flicking off the crowd?
You realize you sound like a six year old when you try antagonizing people?
Eh. They suck.
They’re bitching about Shump on 92.3. “Why is Shump such a bad basketball player?”
It is 100 degrees and I’m in a suit. I’ve had three cups of coffee. If this doesn’t call for a shump I don’t know what does.
Enjoy your Shump.
Total Shump kind of day in LA…
I was behind a red Ford F150 driving home this afternoon, and the car had a window sticker with the infamous saying, “S**t Happens.” I think EG should trademark “Shump Happens” and maybe he can make millions…….well maybe thousands….. with that saying.
That’s definitely a bumper sticker!
I’m not saying Shump is good. I am saying he gets way too much blame.
So you’re saying Delly should get more blame, even though he plays for another organization?
I am not saying Shump is fat, I am just saying he is no good and should get more blame
Nah, he’s fat, too. Hope he gets in shape with the Suns.
If anything, he deserves more blame than he’s getting…
Proportionally to some of the effort displayed by the team as a whole at times, yeah probably. There are also a number of other guys that have taken a number of terrible shots this season including Wade and Green. However, when shump is playing poorly he tends to have stretches where he really really makes mistakes that swing the momentum of entire quarters, e.g. having multiple turnovers in the span of a few possessions or taking a semi contested transition three, or losing his man on d multiple times a game. The only thing that can be said in his… Read more »
https://twitter.com/DwyaneWade/status/923268592258506753
2016-2017
Player A: 39% shooting, 36% 3pt%,18.8 TOV%, 1.4 STL% 16.3 Usage
Player B: 41% shooting, 36% 3pt%, 12.9TOV%, 1.6 Stl%, 14.0 Usage
2015-16
Player A: 40% shooting, 41% 3pt%, 11.7 TO Ratio, 52.7 TS%, 33.9 ASST Ratio, 16.9 USG
Player B: 37% shooting, 29% 3pt%, 12 TO Ratio, 47.5 TS%, 19.3 ASST Ratio, 12 USG
They’re both terrible and I don’t want either!
SO DWADE IS OUT ( YEAH REMEMBER SEEING THAT PLAY AND THOUGHT THE SAME ) AND RUSSELL MIGHT NOT PLAY —-BELIEVE THAT WOULD FAVOR THE CAVS —–…..RAOUL—-NO HAVE NEVER SEEN ELIZABETHTOWN——-SHOULD I ………….HOPING FOR A FAST START …..REST SOME STARTERS……PLAY SOME BENCH …..IF DWADE CAN’T PLAY CAN THEY GIVE A CALL TO HOLLAND ?
Elizabethtown devolves into a total farce towards the end, part of which involves “Freebird”.
If Russell doesn’t play, the Nets have no prayer.
FREE THE JEDI ——FREE THE JEDI !!
LET HIM PLAY! LET HIM PLAY!
https://twitter.com/cediosman/status/923255801355096065
Rookies traditionally struggle on D, but Cedi is a good passer with the potential to be a great passer, he can make a catch and shoot 3 and you know he’s going to bring energy. Shump has regressed year after year. He’s such an overt liability on offense, overly dribbling, bad shot selection, turnovers… that even if he gets his D mojo back he’s not worth it. PLAY CEDI !
I have to believe that Lue is just trying to showcase Shump, to increase his value. Unfortunately, it’s probably doing the opposite.
That is what I thought too. I didn’t want to say anything because I didn’t want to tip off the teams that monitor CtB to find out what is really going down!
Awesome, creative recap EG. Love LeBron as the judge !!
Happy to oblige Mike!
I wonder if Kev and Wade will have their handshake figured out tonight?
https://twitter.com/twithersAP/status/923240980333191174
If you haven’t had enough Shump this week, get ready for some more today, as he takes on an expanded role. I hope Lue plays Cedi some now.
I never get enough Shump, but I think it’s time to share him with a beaten down fanbase…the Phoenix Suns…
I remember him banging his knee last night and thought “Well, that’s a bruise, see you in a few games DWade.”
https://twitter.com/TheRealJRSmith/status/923231498693570560
https://twitter.com/joevardon/status/923237019689586689
So torn. On my fantasy but want them to lose.
Only watched from 4th qtr on and was surprised how close the game was….though once 3s started falling I knew we were good. Lebron is amazing to watch…even in limited viewing time he looked like he expended like 70% energy and was still doing whatever he wanted…hope Lue being angry about defense means few shutdown games where teams barely crack 100
40TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE LEONARD SKYNARD PLANE CRASH —–I STILL GET FIRED UP LISTENING TO “FREE BIRD “
Is that you that keeps yelling “FREE BIRD” at concerts all over the world and pissing off the band?
BTW, did you ever see the movie “Elizabethtown”?
YOU KNOW ( EVEN THOUGH HE DESERVES ALOT OF THE DUMPAASHUMP ) BELIEVE ALL US REALLY WISH HE WOULD / COULD RETURN TO THE SHUMP THAT WE FIRST GOT IN THE TRADE —–NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED —-THE CONTRACT ?—THE INJURIES ?…..THE BABY ……..OVER CONFIDENT IN HIS ABALITIES ?——NOT SURE IF WE WILL EVER SEE THE “1ST ” SHUMP AGAIN
Yes. If Shump would only follow J. Green’s actions and play the game to HIS potential, we would all be glad. Unfortunately he thinks he’s LeBron/Ky.
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/923219421543399424
Rich Paul has been a great agent. Why wouldn’t you trust him?
Because he’s a good agent.
AGREE WITH YOU COLS—BELIEVE THE SUNS OVER VALUE BLEDSOE —–G.M.’S ARE SMART ENOUGH TO WAIT THE SUNS OUT
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/923214852025389058
I’d be surprised if they get a good package for him. A late first should be enough.
Good recap. If Shump doesn’t improve these next two, call up Holland.
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/923211295746347010
Lots of beers
WE ALL TO NEED TO WORK ON OUR HANDSAKES HERE AT CTB —-LET’S DO IT OVER BEERS AT COLS HOUSE
AGREE WITH NOT HAVING KLOVE BANG AGAINST THE PHYSICAL BIGS —( DAVIS I WOULD THINK AS PRECAUTIONARY WILL SIT SAT )——WHY NOT GIVE A FEW ” BANGING MINUTES ” TO THE YOUNG BLOOD “ZZ” HE LIKES TO MIX IT UP INSIDE
https://twitter.com/SInow/status/923202848346787840
https://twitter.com/kevinlove/status/923051600586919938
https://twitter.com/dwyanewade/status/923073953056329728
HA-HA—-AGREE EVIL —-THAT LINE IS GETTING LIKE OUR TEAM ( OLD )——REALLY COLS —–GARBAGE TIME HE SHINES (SHUMP ) REAL TIME “SHUMPADUMP “——WOULDN’T BREAK THE BANK ON BLEDSOE—MAKE THE SUNS SQUIRM / THEY DID THAT TO US LAST SUMMER WITH KYRIE
LeBron dropped a 34/13 and it looked like he was coasting (70-80 pct effort). I’m 41, and I’ve never seen a player this good.
I’m not going to be able to listen to Fred exclaim “He Shumped him!” anymore with a straight face…
I can’t even hear his name without giggling
Shumpert is shooting 44% from three. That’s encouraging.
Because of his outlier 4-5 game in garbage time against the Magic? Please… he’s 0-7 the rest of the time…
I think 4 for 12 is actually 33%, not 44%. 44% is likely 4 of 9.
Yes… Cols must have gotten his numbers before last night’s game… which incidentally dropped his overall FG% to 32…
According to ESPN he’s at 44% after 4 games. Which really means nothing. He’s not a 40 plus 3-PT shooter. Small sample size. He’ll go back to being a 34% 3-point shooter. But more importantly, will he stop hijacking the offense? The answer is most definitely SHUMP NO!
Yes, I was mistakenly including the final preseason game against the Magic of 0-3 which showed up in his game log… still not buying Shump is going to be some revelation from three this year…
1. I can’t wait until we can somehow unload Shump.
2. Bledsoe!
Are the Bledsoe enthusiasts taking into account
(1) that he appears to be a head case, and
(2) they are expecting to get a haul for him?
How is he a headcase? Who cares what they expect, it’s what they are willing to accept.
I think he is just pissed at Phoenix’s front office. They benched him for like the last 20 games last year to blatantly tank. No injury, just tank. He asked for a trade this off-season. Clearly Phoenix gambled he wasn’t all that serious. They didn’t accommodate him, so he took it public when Earl Watson lost the entire team in preseason/first few games of the season. I can’t blame him for being infuriated at them basically faking an injury to sit him last year.
As to #2, yeah I would be surprised if we had the best offer. However, Bledsoe may end up saying he will only resign with the Cavs ala George and Irving, at which point teams will have to gamble on him bluffing. Considering the klutch connection, I wouldn’t be surprised if that is how it goes down.
When has Bledsoe ever been a headcase?
I wish LeBron really was aging backwards, that was a magnificent showing of just how good he is distributing the ball. His passes are nothing short of remarkable.
He seems to be!
EG recaps are a thing of beauty
Appreciate that Kevin!
Davis could be out on Saturday:
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/923181872301125632
Man these injuries just keep adding up. Hopefully he’s 100% soon.
The Cavs boarded a plane for New York after the game. They’ll play the Nets on the second night of the back-to-back Wednesday, then remain in New York for Thursday and Friday. And then the team flies to New Orleans. Translation: That game Saturday against the Pelicans might be ugly after three nights in New York and one in New Orleans. — Lloyd
Or maybe the team will get some bonding time. Find a bowling alley, you know.
I hope Lue keeps Love at the 4 spot moving forward, even if it means bring Crowder off the bench.
Really? I like him at the 5 when rose comes back.
I hope not. Love at 5 unlocks everything for this team. Their best lineup will be Thomas,JR,Crowder,Leb,Love
8. Lue expects to start this same lineup at Brooklyn on Wednesday and again at New Orleans on Saturday because of the opposing bigs. Lue doesn’t want Love taking the pounding from bigger centers like Timofey Mozgov and DeMarcus Cousins, just as he once upon a time didn’t want Thompson taking those beatings. But someone has to do it, and it’s probably no coincidence Love enjoyed his best game of the season back at his natural spot. Love scored 20 points, grabbed 12 rebounds and shot 3-for-7 on 3-pointers after he was 1-for-12 from deep entering the game. — Lloyd
Sure, against huge centers it’s fine. But against teams without giant centers, I hope Love stays at the 5.
I just think he’s more comfortable playing the 4. I think using Love at the 5 in certain line ups is fine, just like using LeBron/Crowder/Green at the 5 is too. But I think he should spend most of his time playing the 4.
Agreed. Love’s natural position is the 4. I don’t know why we want to mess around with a position change? It will work in certain matchups, but I don’t think Kevin Love is going to turn into some miraculous center now.
He has played well at the five. I think he will be better offensively and defensively. He has an easier time guarding slower guys which most fives are and can actually beat some of them on drives. He had a number of dribble drives the first three games. I didn’t get to see much of the game yesterday but I think Fear the sword had him as his worst defensive game.
Love is a banger though. He was more so in Minny than we here because of how have utilized him.
https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/922948034916438017
Can we please send the Nets’ pick to Chicago for Baby Unicorn?
I’ll make a dumpashump shirt if it’s with you EG.
Markannan the Martian!
Cavs don’t have a true active point guard on this roster. No idea why they let Deron Williams go, he was much more serviceable than Calderon. Didn’t see Calderon play to tell you that. Now they have to make Bledsoe happen one way or another.
Was not that impressed with Deron Williams. He’s better than Calderon, but I don’t think he wanted to take a pay cut, and now he’s out of the league.
Yep.
https://twitter.com/joevardon/status/922948305633599489
KJG WRITERS OVER THERE NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME …….THEY ARE WILLLING TO GIVE UP CEDI / “ZZ” / SHUMP / AND THE BROOKLYN PICK …….AGAIN I DON’T KNOW BLEDSOE’S GAME THAT WELL….BUT BELIEVE THAT IS WAY TOO MUCH ……………………..AGAIN LET’S SAY GOODBYE TO JOSE—–BRING UP HOLLAND OR GO SIGN MY MAN ” ENCHILADA ” ( HE IS STILLL BETTER THAN SHUMPADUMP )
They sound like they’re huffing fumes from their own Shump (see Urban Dictionary).
ENTERTAINING RECAP AS USUAL EVIL —–” DUMPASHUMP ” SHIRTS ARE BEING PROCESSED ——-MAYBE WITH CONTINUED SOLID MINUTES BY FRYE / A DRAFT PICK AND A SHUMP MIGHT INTICE THE SUNS FOR BLEDSOE ( MAYBE THEY MIGHT GET TO PANIC MODE )—-IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT TO BE ABLE TO A MAKE A TRADE WITH THEM / KYRIE THIS SUMMER AND LET KYRIE ENJOY THE ” CESSPOOL ” DOWN THERE ——WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE CEDI —-LESS SHUMP —-MORE FRYE AND JOSE GOODBYE ——” DRAFT PICK BOWL ” TONIGHT —–GOT TO BRING IT CAVS …….FROM THE START !!!!!
Thanks NOMAD! Sorry I missed your request for a WS bet… probably a good thing for you after last night ;)
Listening to Mike&Mike driving to work this morning. A major topic was the astounding disparity on borderline pitches being called balls versus strikes last night. LAD pitchers got over TWICE as many called strikes as HA pitchers did. Someone had some numbers showing that this has been happening for the LAD all season. This story might have legs.
If Kluber had that same strike zone… the Tribe would still be playing…
Cavs were great after that first quarter.
Cavs Sans Shump were pretty pretty good.
I would honestly trade Shump to the Nuggest for RJ straight up if we could ignore salary rules…
I would trade Shump for carbon dioxide.
I miss RJ already.
Aside from it being difficult to read a paragraph with an image of a wigged LBJ nodding at you, this was a thoroughly entertaining recap.
Missed the last few minutes of the game, so I was glad to find out that it wasn’t declared a mistrial.
Thanks Simmo! I may have overdone it with the wiggy gifs…