From Distance: A Glass Full of Matter
2017-11-01Four point play…
1. Humans are incessantly optimistic. Even the most doom and gloom pessimist, one who is always trying to “prepare for the worst” for fear of being blindsided by any theoretical despair, is often a closeted optimist trying to steel a sensitive heart from impending disaster. Such a person thinks that by focusing on a potentially negative outcome, one can brace himself for any eventual problem. If such a person didn’t initially have a positive expectation of the future, no “preparing for the worst” would be necessary. The worst would be assumed, accepted, and simply the way of life. It’s that positive expectation that leads to disappointment. It is that positive expectation that begs mitigation.
Conversely, a chipper sort who always looks on the bright side of life, may feel a real tug of despair, thus requiring a cheerful disposition to combat that knowledge. It’s the more recognized version of optimism, but no stronger than the first. I’m not talking about the bliss of ignorance (though each of us, to some degree, lives happily in that state, whether we care to admit it or not). I’m talking about those folks who have experienced some sort of misery and recognize that there could have been no preparation that would have made it less awful. If no preparation could have helped, why not just focus on the good?
We receive awful news and our first reaction is “this is awful!” (Stunning analysis. That’s why you come to this fine site). A secondary, more lasting reaction, is usually “it won’t be that bad” or “it could be worse”. Both things are somewhat disingenuous. Yes, most of the time, it really won’t be that bad, and it could always be worse. Still, our natural desire to survive usually promotes a “buck up” attitude that gets us through the day, but prevents us from forcing radical change. We are more likely to stick things out. Our optimism can lead us out of dark times. We need it. But, it can also promote stagnation.
2. Obviously, nothing about the 2017-2018 Cleveland Cavaliers is legitimately miserable. As always, this is only entertainment. Other than the level of respect that we should maintain for the human beings involved, the NBA is a relative frivolity here for our enjoyment, as are most things.
Still, the way a person consumes sports is an indicator of how one views many things. Is one only concerned with the ultimate outcome? As fans, are we preparing for the worst or being needlessly shortsighted. Are we foolishly distorting facts through our rose colored glasses? Does winning really absolve one of all mistakes?
All of the following is true.
a. The Cavs will make the Playoffs.
b. LeBron James is unlikely to lose a seven game Eastern Conference Playoffs series until he is clearly past his prime.
c. The Cavaliers have traded in a successful three-point-oriented team of shooters for a roster that features less accuracy from deep.
d. Cleveland has the oldest roster in the league and is unconcerned about October success.
All of the following is true to me.
a. Tyronn Lue doesn’t know who his most effective players are.
b. The roster is full of low IQ veterans who think their veteran status makes them high IQ players.
c. Regular season LeBron James is better defending the interior than the perimeter.
d. Tristan Thompson is nearly useless unless he is surrounded by capable shooters.
e. Iman Shumpert is one of the worst basketball players in the entire NBA.
The Cavs backcourt just isn’t good enough to play Tristan Thompson big minutes. It’s a shame for TT. The league is full of guys who play well in one situation and awfully in another. This roster is built to make Tristan look worse than he is.
LeBron James, Kevin Love and Jae Crowder need to play big minutes across the frontcourt for this team to have a chance. The rest of the league has gone with length. Burly guys can use their size and strength to move the lanky youngsters out of the paint.
It is early, but these signs are real. The roster isn’t balanced enough to be poorly coached. Lue has to maximize his players’ skill-sets by deft rotation management and play-calling. He is doing neither. It’s not entirely his fault. Derrick Rose, Iman Shumpert, and Jeff Green have spent their entire careers short-circuiting offensive flow. Regardless, an adequate coach knows when to fold’em. If those guys can’t run the system, stop playing them.
“But Ben, Jeff Green and Rose have been playing well!”
No they haven’t. They just haven’t been as abjectly awful as they can and likely will be. They can’t shoot. Green has been this guy his whole career. He looks good playing an ineffective game. One can’t get caught up in Rose’s, Shump’s and Green’s occasional highlights. They aren’t plus players.
“It would help if J.R. Smith weren’t so awful!”
Yes. Yes it would. And perhaps he wouldn’t have started so poorly if he hadn’t been jacked around by an inept coach.
Yep, that escalated quickly. Listen, I’m not advocating for Lue’s dismissal. I don’t know that it would help anything all that much, especially if he were to be replaced by that disaster of a leader, Mark Jackson. But Lue has consistently been a subpar coach, regardless of his playoff record.
We can be both kinds of optimist: the kind that “prepares for the worst” and the kind that is aware that this is a long season and it’s fun to have LeBron James on the team. Both things are true.
Nonetheless, if the front office thinks it should just chill and wait for the playoffs to start, Cavs fans are going to have a rough season ahead. If a coaching change isn’t in the cards, they’ll need a trade. This roster isn’t going to get it done in June.
3. I would be remiss not to mention the surging Boston Celtics. After dropping the first two games of their season, the Celtics have reeled off five straight victories. It’s not so shocking that Brad Stevens’ team sits at 5-2 post Gordon Hayward injury. What is shocking is that Boston currently leads the NBA in defensive efficiency and is number six in rebounding rate. They were a solid defensive squad last year, but had trouble on the glass. Their new look roster is having no trouble maintaining their defensive integrity while cleaning up their board work. Aron Baynes and Jayson Tatum have been huge on both accounts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37vRBzkYAsw
Kyrie Irving has led a balanced Celtics attack. They are moving the ball well as a team. Kyrie has played out of flow, only taking 18 shots per contest. Defensively, Irving has had active hands averaging 2.43 steals per game. It’s early, but so far Kyrie has done a much better job of trying on defense. He’s not busting his tail or anything, but he’s playing with a level of effort that he has normally reserved for bigger games. Good for him.
4. Speaking of that awful trade, the Brooklyn Nets have thankfully dropped three in a row. They will be a bad team. Their roster isn’t deep enough to suffer any more long-term injuries to a play-maker, but the Cavs might be smart to poke potential trades whenever the Nets extend a losing streak. I don’t really like cheering for teams to lose, even if they aren’t my own. The more time passes, the more I hope they deal the pick. What a season.
Great read, as usual, Ben. The more I think about the Summer of Corby, the worse it looks. Calderon (this may be more a Gilbert signing, but whatever) can’t see the floor even with two PGs sitting due to injury. So they play Shump at point as starter. Fantastic. And the Cavs let RJ go to keep Calderon, who is predictably completely unplayable. Even Felder would be far better. Jeff Green is terrible (predictably) unless he’s on the floor with Lebron. His usage is far too high when he’s on the floor, which is a problem, because he’s not good.… Read more »
Absolutely. It could have been a lot worse.
It didn’t have to be that bad…
Heard something from the Memphis podcast that’s really depressing. Jeff Green is a fool’s gold. He titilates enough to get you thinking he’s ok but then you give a hard look and you see evidence to the contrary. The previous teams he played for all got worse while he’s there and all the teams he left got better. The Orlando Magic are flying high early this season after not even making the play-offs last year. The Cavs are off to their worst start in the Lebron Era 2.0 . I hope this pattern breaks.
HOW ABOUT WHAT THE PELICANS USED—-DAVIS/ BOOGIE ON HIGH POST ELBOWS —CREATES ALOT OF OPTIONS———PUT LOVE / LEBRON IN SAME POSITIONS —–THERE IS NO CREATIVITY IN WHAT WE CALL AN OFFENSE –NO BALL MOVEMENT —-BODIES MOVING—-WAY TO EASY TO DEFEND —–TY KEEPS ON SAYING HE WANTS TO “PLAY FAST ” HAVE SEEN VERY LITTLE OF THAT SO FAR —–” THE MIDGET LAGENBURGERBASKETS ” HAS TO GO ………………………………………..HEY EVEIL GAME 7 WORLD SERIES —WHAT IS THE WAGER—-HOW ABOUT WHOMEVER LOSES HAS TO SUPPORT / AGREE WITH COLS FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON —I HAVE THE STROS
Beat me to it I was just going to suggest that. I seem to recall minny used to run stuff off Love all the time using him in conjunction with dribble handoffs to Rubio while a cutter slashed baseline allowing love to choose to fake the hand off to hit a cutter or hand it off to a guard to can use him as a screen for a slash or 16 foot j while he popped to the three point line or rolled.
I’d include Wade with Shump, Rose, Green trifecta. The way Lue has used those guys to date has really changed how I view him as a coach. All four them, would thrive off of baseline cuts and some nice flare screens so they get the ball below the 3 line with guys reacting to their the movement of the ball, rather than them having to force a reaction. There are ways to maximize these guys. Lue just isn’t doing it.
Well, tonight will be interesting. Won’t mean anything one way or the other, but hopefully they can resemble an NBA team.
And damn I wish Lue would play Cedi or Ante some minutes FFS; Lue is really starting to piss me off not trying different players and letting Longshanks run the defensive nightmare
I agree. They can’t play worse than TT or JR have this season. With shump out, I don’t see why Cedi doesn’t get some run tonight.
I KNOW THIS ISN’T PART OF THE POST / CONVERSATION—-BUT DID WE HAVE A CHANCE TO DRAFT LARRY NANCE JR—IF SO …. WHY DIDN’T WE —-ESPECIALLY WITH DAD’S CONNECTION TO CAVS AND THE KID CAN PLAY !!
COUNT ME IN –NATE / JRL / RAOUL ——-STILL ” FREE CEDI ” AND “GIVE ME AN ORDER OF DEEP FRYE’S ” AND MAYBE ” ANTE UP “
LeBron and the Cavs are in “chill mode”, (as are the Warriors) , teams like Orlando and the Celtics are playing with everything they got because they don’t have anything else. It’s not pleasant to watch, but I find it hard to discern much of anything from October (“it’s October, right?”) Green, Rose, even Shump have the athleticism to contribute to a championship caliber team if they can operate within the parameters of their skill sets. Even Crowder (who I love and believe will be the difference in the finals) needs to have his role defined where he can thrive… Read more »
Also, I don’t think green’s been nearly as bad as you say, but you’re right about one thing. He can’t and shouldn’t shoot. He’s a career sub 30% guy. He should only shoot if he is wide open on a catch and shoot towards the end of the shotclock. When he cuts, runs the floor, initiaties a little offense, straight line drives drives, and shoots wide open catch and shoot shots, he’s a positive. When he goes iso and throws up idiotic Js, he’s a negative.
I’m with you on Green. He needs to play to his advantage which is his athleticism and attacking the basket in smart ways. A once in awhile catch/shoot is fine but shouldn’t be his main thing. Neither should he ever try to run iso plays.
Agree with Nate and J.
Good read, Ben. I’m with you on Lue. His teams consistently do not seem prepared, his lineups are nonsensical, and he doesn’t develop talent. He also is loyal to failures like Green, Rose, and Longabardi. However, he seems to know how to assuage egos and motivate talented players when down 3-1 in the finals. It’s taken him a long way. As for the Brad Stephens debate, the dude has maximized talent and developed youth in the regular season. That’s what boston needed, but that is not the same thing as winning in the playoffs. Those are two different skill sets.… Read more »
Agree that Brad has developed talent in the regular season. He actually did pretty good in the playoffs last year, getting to the ECF and taking one from the Cavs. He has not had the chances that Lue has to show what he can do in the finals. I would like him a lot better if he was on the Cavs.
He was a Rajon Rondo injury away from being the first top seed ousted by an 8 seed in years…
https://twitter.com/kevinarnovitz/status/925762203860402176
Wow! That is a major evolution in 13 years.
Glass half full:
https://twitter.com/joevardon/status/925756474978111491
He was referring to the Halloween Party.
Hey Ben, my sister is also an opera singer. Or used to be. She mostly just does musicals now rather than operas though.
I’ve never been to an opera show, but I’d love to attend one at some point.
There are some really good operas that I enjoy a lot. As a kid I hated them, couldn’t see why my parents and sister wanted to see something that was in Italian.
I do my fair share of musical too.
Puccini is accessible to those new to opera. Madame Butterfly and La Boheme are basically like movies. And remember that they do sub-titles in theaters so it’s just like watching a foreign film. You’ll be able to understand.
I was lucky enough to see Rent the year it took Broadway by storm (1996). I hadn’t seen an opera previously, but Rent inspired me to see La Boheme the next year, and I’ve seen a handful of operas since them. Also, I did get to see the Three Tenors tour many years ago. My first choice is musicals or plays, but opera has become somewhat of an acquired taste. Bravo to you.
I thought Rent was more like a rock musical.
Rent is a musical loosely based on Pucini’s opera La Bohene. One of the signature songs is La Vie Bohene. It won a Pulitzer Price and the Tony for Best Musical the year it premiered. I guess you could call Rent a rock musical.
I once saw “Electra” from high up in the balcony. I found the scale of the operation to be so transfixing and the vocals to be so embellished that it was a while before I realize she was singing in German. Then I saw that English text was being projected high above the stage. It was distracting so I didn’t read it. A convenient handout was provided listing 100 odd murders and a bunch of rapes to provide the backstory. My main takeaway was astonishment that the lead singer could put out that much sound for a couple hours without… Read more »
Great article as usual, Ben. I really want to go to Germany now so I can see you perform and buy you a beer. Totally persuaded by your lists of facts. As happened with LBJ’s last tour, each year of trying to win it all now spends some capital that makes the next year harder. This leads to fishing for more and more vets in the hope that they’ll land a few that can still play. The string is just about played out and I fear the wilderness awaits next year. Not good times in the Land. Many long nights… Read more »
Do you guys think we see ANY meaningful minutes from Zizic and Cedi tonight?
Nope. I have zero faith Lue will integrate those two in any significant way. Wasted money, wasted bench spot, wasted potential.
Plus UNO.
That’s exactly what I figured. Absolutely sucks because I think both of them are capable of helping the team.
I saw enough of Zizic during the preseason to feel he can be a big contributor. As for Cedi, how could he be any worst than Shump? Put him out there to learn and grow, we need young, restless talent.
Indeed we do. You’d think that putting someone in who is nothing but a ball of energy who plays decent defense and runs the court could help an aging team who has trouble running the floor and playing defense… What do I know, though?
If it was that easy, everyone would be an NBA head coach :)
#PrisonersOfTheMoment
I don’t know who thought bringing in Jeff Green was a good idea? Was it Corby, Dan, or Lue? Regardless, Jeff Green is gonna get Lue fired and probably Corby too. Sans Dan will just down a couple of mid-day scotches as he does every day.
http://adrinkwith.com/dan-gilbert/
I watched 5 minutes and had to stop. The interviewer was horrid.
I was with EG and others on being underwhelmed with Brad Stevens, but may be changing my opinion. On another post, I mentioned the surprising stat that Boston leads the league in fewest points per 100 possessions. Of course this is despite losing some of their best defenders. Stevens has assimilated a bunch of new players much better than Lue has, and the team looks very cohesive. Irving and Horford have good chemistry. Quite a recovery from the horrific injury to Hayward also. On the other hand, Jason Lloyd answered a question I posted in his “mailbag” column on Lue.… Read more »
I think in the case of Blatt, players didn’t want to listen to him because they didn’t accept him into the NBA fraternity without proving it, and they followed their leader. That is different from having a team full of guys who are one-dimensional players who simply cannot follow any reasonably involved coaching game plan because all they do is the thing that they do. Rose, Green, and Shump have ignored every coach they’ve ever had.
Et tu Mike?
I know. I feel like Fredo in The Godfather, or as Michael Corleone said when mockingly embracing his brother, “Fredo, I know it was you.” Just don’t shoot me while I am fishing, since I do own a boat and fish on Lake Erie :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjUOBVAbGhQ
He was an awful signing by Griffin.
Right. He picked Shump over Delly. Too bad Cols had Griffin’s phone number.
Just read a headline that said “Cavs D could get even worse with Shump out”. Clearly that person has not watched a minute of Shumpert’s play this season. Maybe there is a front office out there who holds the same belief.
Ben, I always suspected that Brad Stevens will make Boston play D with any five on the floor he put out there, said so in off season. I know Ctb doesn’t like him, but he is the top 5 coaches in the league. OT, I was thinking as who are the NBA’s the best coaches in Lebron’s era. Sadly, Lebron didn’t play for any of them. Cavs have lot of pieces that doesn’t fit. It is challenging for any coaches to make it work and frankly it is above Lue’s grade. Also, most of those pieces are untradeable. The only… Read more »
He is. We say he can’t win in the playoffs, but what does anyone expect when he runs into the cavs the last few years? People here have an issue with how his teams seemingly have a history of playing dirty against the cavs. I get it, but he consistently overachieves with the talent on that team in my opinion.
I think Spoelstra was a solid coach.
Great trap defense.
Yes, as much as I hate Stevens, he’s a good coach.
Wake me up when the dude actually wins something… until then enjoy being a part of the collective media slobbering over this overhyped “basketball genius” SMH
Preach, EG!
So do you think any other coach could have beaten the cavs the last few years with the roster the Celtics had? Just curious. I don’t necessarily equate wins or championships with coaching prowess. In fact I think a lot of teams that have won championships with a ton of talent, have won in SPITE of their coaches’ nonsensical lineups, poor in game management, and/or simplistic or rigid offenses and defenses that are way too easy to gameplan for and subsequently counter. You can very frequently win with superior talent, but you can rarely win or compete without close to… Read more »
Not my point… I think Stevens is a decent coach, but not the genius or wizard that the media has painted him to be from the jump… I have an allergic reaction to guys getting praised for exhorting try-hards into using bully tactics to do anything to scratch out a few regular season victories. Fact is… “President” Brad would have been on a hotter seat than Ty Lue is now had Rajon Rondo not gone down in that first round series last year… Not a great look to almost choke away the number one seed to an 8… But sure,… Read more »
That team in no way should have been a number one or two seed with that talent. IT played out of his mind because of that system. I doubt he will ever come close to playing that well in our system. I hope he does but I doubt it. Certainly I hope the cavs can actually stumble into using him to at least part of his potential. Crowder so far is proving that he was great with Boston for a reason and so far is only decent with us, mostly on defense. I don’t think he is a genius, but… Read more »
Like I said… call me when he wins something
Well, at least you think the Cavs have a system. It looks to me like a bunch of excellent basketball players going to a gym and having a pickup game.
Well I may be being tactful. Regardless, I am hoping we can get at least 70-80% of the offense IT gave the Celtics last year. That may be asking a lot. I certainly don’t think we will see the kind of efficiency he had during the regular season last year.
WATCHING SOME OF THE HALLOWEEN PARTY VIDEOS——–POST BASKETBALL DAYS FOR LEBRON—–CAN BE ON ” DANCING WITH THE STARS “—HAS SOME GOOD MOVES ……BUT HEY WE CAN WAIT FOR THOSE DAYS TO COME !!!
GOOD POINTS ON BOTH ARCH—-YES I WANT TO BE OPTOMISTIC—BUT AGREE TOO MANY HOLES TO FILL AND DO NOT WANT TO TRADE THE BROOOKLYN PICK ( NETS ARE COMING BACK DOWN TO EARTH ) / FUTURE IN HOPE OF CHASING SOMETHING WE CAN’T OBTAIN
Also I was wondering if the lack of shooting has impacted TT? He looks like TT from the Byron Scott days. I think the lack of shooting may be impacting JR too. He may be trying to do to much.
Great article Ben. Completely agree on Green, Rose, and Shump. There’s nothing about any of their games that gives me confidence in a playoff series.
This team has a lot of holes!
VERY GOOD READ BEN—THANK YOU —I THINK WE CAN ACCEPT LOSING ( NOT THAT IS EVER A POSITIVE ) IT IS THE MANNER OF HOW WE PLAYED IN LOSING AND WHOM WE LOST TO—-EVEN ARE WINS ( OTHER THAN THE BUCKS GAME ) HAVE BEEN CONCERNING —–AM EAGER TO SEE HOW 2 DAYS OFF / LEBRON’S HALLOWEEN PARTY / AND THE TEAM ” AIR IT OUT ” MEETING HAS AN EFFECT ON THIS TEAM TONIGHT …………THE CAVS CAN THANK THE BROWNS FOR KEEPING ALOT OF THE PRESSURE OFF THEM ——NO MATTER HOW POORLY THE CAVS ARE PLAYING AT PRESENT …..THEY… Read more »
I think JR being “jacked around by an inept coach” is overboard. Is there some reason why JR status as a starter is untouchable when he is playing like crap?
If JR returns to his best form, he should be starting, not otherwise. I am worried that he got to the “past prime time” zone about the same time he got a four year extension.
Re: Lue. We play a lot of bad teams with mostly lousy, young players, and after they are surprisingly interested in winning the game we say “they’re young and hungry and well-coached”. OK, so we’re not young, and we’re not hungry (October), but when was the last time anyone said the Cavs were well-coached?
1999.