The Cavs win the draft lottery
2011-05-18Clementine: I had you pegged, didn’t I?
Joel: You had the whole human race pegged.
Clementine: Hmm. Probably.
Joel: I still thought you were gonna save my life… even after that.Clementine: Ohhh… I know.
Joel: It would be different, if we could just give it another go-round.
Clementine: Remember me. Try your best; maybe we can…
…Joel: I don’t see anything I don’t like about you.
Clementine: But you will! But you will, and I’ll get bored with you and feel trapped, because that’s what happens with me.
Joel: Okay.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
So here we are, eight years later. After all the hope, the triumph, the heartbreak, the bitterness, and a truly awful season of basketball, we return again to the beginning. The #1 pick in the draft.
Only this time, the team is prepared like it wasn’t before. The 2nd player the Cavs take in this draft will be considerably better than Jason Kapono. Anderson Varejao isn’t Carlos Boozer or Ricky Davis. This time, the team is ready to do things the right way from day one.
Of course, Kyrie isn’t LeBron. Maybe that’s the best part, more likely the worst one. But the team has the best thing it could have hoped for: a fresh start. Here are a few more scattered thoughts:
– Kyrie Irving is the guy. I hope there will be no real debate on this. He’s one of two players in the draft with both great production and great athletic tools, and he’s the one with a position. And it happens to be the most important position on the floor.
The “rap” on Irving is that he doesn’t have “superstar potential,” but ever since those new hand-check rules went into effect, hyper-fast guards who know how to score have been consistently surprising people. Marvin Williams was supposed to have more star potential than Chris Paul. A lot of people thought Beasley had more star power than the reigning MVP.
I’m expecting Irving to be “safe,” meaning he’ll step in and flirt with top-10 point guard status fairly soon, but I think he has a better chance of being one of the best players in the league in three or four years than most people do. I am absolutely itching for the Kyrie Irving era to begin in Cleveland.
– I cannot stress enough how important patience will be going forward. Kyrie can be built around, and the team has some pieces in place, but this team will be a work in progress for at least another year, and it must be treated as such. We learned that lesson at the expense of the poor Clippers tonight.
The Clippers made what seemed like a completely logical trade at the deadline: they cut salary and traded for a point guard whose skills compliment those of their budding franchise player’s. It ended up blowing up in their face, hard, to the point where I can’t help but feel a twinge of guilt that the Cavs prevented the Irving/Gordon/Griffin era from launching in Clipperland. (Not a huge twinge, especially since that team isn’t going anywhere until they can get a coach who will make Blake buy in on defense, but a twinge.)
The point isn’t that the Clippers made an indefensible trade: they made their bet after flopping a set with a rainbow flop on the board, the Cavs had two spades in their hand, and they ended up hitting a flush on the river. (My poker is a bit shaky, but I’m pretty sure the odds of the Cavs coming out with that pick were even worse than what I just described.)
The point isn’t that the Cavs’ 2.9% chance ended up coming through — it’s that the Clippers, a team in no position to make a legitimate playoff run in the next season or two, made a move that took away from their upside for a short-term gain.
Teams in the Cavs and Clippers’ position should NEVER, EVER DO THAT. The move blew up in the Clippers’ face in the lottery in reality — maybe it would have ended up blowing up if the pick they traded turned into the 8th pick, and Jan Vesely ended up becoming an absolute monster.
The point is that the Clippers should know about far Mo Williams, Vinny Del Negro, Blake Griffin, and Eric Gordon are going to take them, and Griffin and Gordon are good enough so that they should have dared to aim higher and been willing to risk one or two years of underperforming the kind of expectations a talent like Griffin brings. The Clippers’ pick revitalized the Cavs’ franchise — they lesson they should learn from the trade that got it will be just as important.
– Next season is not the season. The season after that may not be the season. But there is progress that can be made, and it’s progress that should be made at the correct pace. I’m actually hoping for a 35-win season next year, with about 12 games where Irving goes off, everything clicks, and we see the team’s potential, which will lead to another high draft pick in a better draft before the team really gears up to become a contender in the East again.
– As for the #4 pick, I really have no idea at this point. (DARN YOU, HARRISON BARNES.) Walker and Knight are the guys I feel best about overall, but that would be a crowded backcourt, and there’s only room for one point guard. Valanciunas and Kanter are both question marks, and I have concerns about the former’s ability to stretch the floor for Andy and the latter’s athleticism. Biyombo and Andy would make a heck of a defensive frontcourt, and I can see using Hickson in spurts to make them both work, but he’d be a bit of a reach. Vesely fits a need, but he’s both a question mark and a reach.
All I really have to say about the #4 pick is that the Cavs should go with fit ONLY AS A TIEBREAKER. The team isn’t good enough to be all that concerned about fit yet. If they feel strongly that one player will be objectively better than another, that’s the player they should take, regardless of position. I call this the “Take Al Horford instead of Mike Conley” rule, because I’m too nice to call it the “Trade down and take Martell Webster instead of Chris Paul because you already have Sebastian Telfair” rule.
As the Cavs look to rebuild, I think the Thunder/Bulls model is the one they should be following. Neither team rushed its rebuilding process or forced any short-term moves, and now they’re built around:
– Offensive weapons at the point who can both score and run the offense (Assuming Irving pans out, check.)
– Wing players who can be relied on as scoring threats (GAPING HOLE — DARN YOU, HARRISON BARNES.)
– Great defensive frontcourts who can finish what guards and wings create offensively(halfway there with Varejao, and the #4 pick could be huge for filling this hole)
– A coach who has a system from day one, especially on defense, and has a plan for how his team wins basketball games. (I have my doubts about Byron Scott — extreme doubts — but I’m willing to see what he can do with a  real basketball team.
Great role players are important as well, but those are the main things, and they can’t be forced. The Cavs are still missing a frontcourt piece and a major wing piece, and need a better system than the one they had next year. Those things won’t happen overnight, and the Cavs’ management shouldn’t try and make them.
That’s all I have for tonight. This is a great night, because for the first time in a long time, it really feels like tomorrow will be a brighter day for the Cavaliers. Remember that feeling as the season progresses.
I have a feeling T-Wolves will f up if their pick and Kanter will fall to 4. I see the Jazz taking Williams…and PG and a C will be perfect for the Cavs….Ive also heard decent things about Jan Vesely who has a nice shot and is very athletic…though he does play away from basket a bit….Im also hoping we can land David Lighty in 2nd round…it be good to have a strong defender come off bench in 2 or 3 spot…
Obviously not with the 1st or 4th pick, but I would love to get our hands on either Biyombo or Ken Faried in this draft. Any chance the Cavs could buy a pick if one of them falls out of the lottery?
Great post. These draft decisions should have absolutely nothing to do with next season. 100% of our criteria should be: by 2015, who will we wish we had drafted (or traded for)? We are building a foundation. Shortcuts will only undermine what we’re trying to do, and preclude success. Definitely Kyrie with the 1st pick. With the 2nd pick, I like either Kanter or Valanciunas. More than how athletic he is, with Kanter I really want to know how big he is. Tim Duncan is not particularly athletic, but he dominates by being big and skilled. Same thing with Pau… Read more »
Irving is one piece. How are they going to both offensively stretch the floor and defensively clamp down with what they have now? Is it possible The Baron can transform into a SG? (Not very possible.) An SF who can set his feet and drain from 3pt on in would be nice. But he has to play defense too. Iggy sort of fits in there but he’s at his ceiling it would seem. Kawhi Leonard fits the bill but…a project too. However, if you eye next year’s class and so argue patience, maybe the trick will be to improve but… Read more »
Can someone give definitive details about the rules for using the trade exception? I’m pretty sure it can’t be combined with any outgoing players, but can we send it with a draft pick? I remember rumblings around the trade deadline about possibly picking up Andre Iguodala for the TPE, but obviously nothing came of it. I think he could be a good possibility to readress. Move the TPE and 4th pick for Iguodala and the 16th? We could pick a decent talent at midway through the draft (instead of reaching for one of the players outside of Williams and Irving… Read more »
Kyrie is THE pick. We can stop talking about taking Derrick Williams at the top spot. We’ll take him if he’s there at 4, but Irving will drafted #1. You can take that to the bank.
It’s great to have options. We can now decide who do we want more Irving or Williams (as oppose to taking whichever was left with the second pick). We also have a lot more choices than we thought we would since we have the 4th pick and not the 8th. Before it seemed like we would ‘settle’ for Williams at #2 and then hope that Knight or Kemba were available at #8. Now assuming Minny takes Williams and Jazz take Knight (as a lot of mock boards/experts suggest), we’ll now be able to decide between kemba, Kanter, Jonas V, Jan… Read more »
Hey Krolik, I’ve been a fan for years and am glad to see Cavs fans get some luck after the whole Lebron fiasco.
Cavs probably should and will take Kyrie with that top pick. Real interested to see who they take at 4. Williams and Kanter are most likely to be off the board.
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Irving. Leonard. That’s the direction I would go at 1 and 4.
If you want a Euro-big, bring over Sasha Kaun.
Would you take Kemba? A Kemba-Irving backcourt has the potential to be nasty.
I’m a little surprised you are concerned with Kanter’s athleticism, as I have read the opposite. I haven’t seen him play, just read about him, but he’s my hope at #4.
I think Irving is the man, but I am not sold on the euro bigs for a 4 pick. It will be most interesting to see what chris grant and co. do with the trade exception and if they buy more picks to fill the holes. I would like to see us buy another first round pick so we can fill our biggest holes. We will get a point guard no matter what, but I think we need a 2 and 3 most besides that.
Baron turned out to be a great short-term fit, but the key words are still “short-term.” He’ll be 34 at the end of the 2013 season, and w/ his injury/weight issues, he’ll be an “old” 34. As for Sessions, it seems clear he does not have “starting PG on a playoff-team” potential; he’s a fine backup, not a cornerstone. And before Baron, this team lacked a “true point guard” for 9 yrs, ever since trading Andre Miller. Irving should be a no-brainer for pick no. 1.
Good point guards can be had for a price (see Deron Williams). Id go with Williams and the Turkish kid.
It would be tough to move up to #2 despite this being a weak draft. Remember, the NBA draft is nothing like the NFL draft. Every year there are 2nd round picks that get traded straight up for “cash considerations”, which is almost like giving them away. The value of an NBA draft pick drops off quickly and isn’t worth a whole lot outside of the lottery. If the Cavs want to move up to #2 in a two person draft, they would likely have to either give up both 2nd round picks or trade a player like Eyenga along… Read more »
At least Byron is a good point-guard coach.
YUSSSSS!!!! Let’s pick smart. I dunno how long B Diddy can last and my feelings on Sessions are mixed. I would like to think that we can rely on those guys and draft Williams to fill our gaping 3 hole, but maybe Kyrie is the better player. It’s exciting that we have these 2 picks which if done right, can be 2 long term rotation players at worst case scenario, if not 2 starters. I think I can speak for us all when I say that tonight was f*cking HUGE!
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