Live Thread: Cavs vs Hawks
2021-02-23An @emoryhealthcare injury report for tonight’s game at Cleveland:
Bogdan Bogdanovic: Out
Kris Dunn: Out
De’Andre Hunter: Out
Cam Reddish: Out pic.twitter.com/MukOgC5vcL— Atlanta Hawks (@ATLHawks) February 23, 2021
Cavs have reached the "we're starting Dean Wade" point of the season, so things are going great
— Jordan Zirm (Cavs in 6) (@JordanZirm) February 23, 2021
Wow. That’s a development. I’m a bit baffled by this move, but maybe it’s a chance to see Dean he can give them anything before they cut bait. Maybe they need Cedi to back up the point . Maybe they’re sandbagging Love to try to get a win versus the Rockets tomorrow. Who knows? Delly, Love, Nance, Prince, Drummond all out. Maybe one will be back tomorrow. Until then, go Wade!
This game has now been recapped:
JUST WANT TO TOUCH UPON NATE’S RECAP YESTERDAY—IT’S NOT BINARY –THE ANSWER TO HIS DISCUSSION WAS IN PROOF LAST NIGHT —IF WE WEREN’T SUCH PASSIONATE // DIE HARDED FANS WE WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN SO ‘GIDDY ‘ ABOUT A 1 PT VICTORY IN LATE FEBRUARY OVER A MEDIOCRE HAWKS TEAM —-JUST PROOF THAT WE HERE AT CTB TO– ‘GIVE A DAMN ‘– ABOUT THE CAVS AND YES WHEN THEY ARE NOT DISPLAYING THE EFFORT THAT WE EXPECT FROM THEM —( AND THEY SHOULD EXPECT FROM EACH OTHER ) — THEN WE WILL VOICE OUR FRUSTRATED VOICES // OPINIONS AT THEM– BUT… Read more »
Fedor’s piece on Stevens:
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/02/undrafted-rookie-lamar-stevens-capitalizing-on-increased-opportunity-proving-to-cavaliers-he-belongs.html
He can defend and rebound now. If he can turn himself into an even slightly below average but not atrocious shooter, from anywhere, he’s a keeper. Might be anyway.
Note Nwaba in there. If we’d have held on to David, no need to draft Ice.
Nah. Nwaba’s issues have never been about talent, they’ve been about staying healthy.
nice find, EPM sweeping the nation!!! LMFAOOOO
To me, best part of the game-winning play was Sexton’s assist. I was 150% sure he was going to hero-ball it on the last play. Such a positive sign that he’s truly evolved as a player that he recognized the attention he was drawing, Stevens’ cut, and that everyone on the Hawks was also pretty sure he was going to take the shot, too.
Great to see everyone celebrating together on the sidelines afterwards, a reminder that the camaraderie and cohesiveness of the early season is still there, bubbling beneath the surface.
STILL ENJOYING THE ‘W” FROM LAST NIGHT—-THINK ICE ALSO IS GETTING MORE CONFIDENT ON THE OFENSIVE END—LAST 3 GAMES HE HAS BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE —YEAH I GET IT WITH MIXED RESULTS —-THE POTENTIAL IS THERE —AN OFF SEASON OF HONING HIS SKILLS WILL DO HIM WONDERS
EPM data updated:
#29 Allen +3.1
#102 LNJ +1.0
#116 Dre +0.7
#223 Cedi -1.1
#228 Sexton -1.2
#234 Prince -1.3
#250 McGee -1.6
#303 Dotson -2.1
#315 DG -2.6
#325 Stevens -2.8
#343 Wade -3.1
#346 Windler -3.2
#384 Okoro -4.2
Watching replay – so many Lamar dunks!!!!
Also: Windler: we’ve been waiting for that smooth stroke to start connecting. That was fun!
just watched the highlights, this looks like a really fun game. I could hear that final broadcast call for a while – ’10 seconds to go – it’s Sexton – Sexton, chased by Hill — off to Stevens — oh HO-OH, MY! — Lamar Stevens, the rookie out of Penn State! — no timeouts left for the Hawks — Trae Young — and it’s over!’ (as Kevin Love emerges from the sideline with his arms up a la June 2016)
Our starting backcourt going for 11 TOs was not great. ATL is injury ravaged. Trae is deservedly NOT an all-star.
But we competed. Stevens is an NBA player in every way except for shooting. That was a confident play in that situation. So sick of jumpers at the buzzer. Go to the hole!
Windler got his stroke going. JB figured out Cedi cannot play the 4.
A win!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed — also good thing Hawks had to call TO with 19 seconds and put in Gallinari, although even if he had challenged the dunk you get the feeling that Stevens just would have jammed it over him anyway. This was a little bit like that road win over Brooklyn last year when Alec Burks improvised for a game-winning dunk. Cavs getting the W this time more with the young core (Okoro looked really good in the highlights, obviously Windler also), 43 minutes by Garland, etc. Hope Stevens can develop further in Cleveland.
This Mavs-Celtics game is delicious…
holy shit Luka
Looks like I’m watching two replays when I’m done working :)
ridiculousness!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAOOOOOOOOO
STEVENS COMMENT DURING THE INTERVIEW ——“BETTER TOGETHER ‘ SHOULD BE CAVS MOTTO REST OF THE SEASON
love it, Stevens has been a really nice positive this year!!!!
I’ve a slight bias towards Penn Staters, but Stevens was a natural leader in college. I didn’t think his game would translate to the NBA. I saw a Nwaba comparison in an earlier post, but he is more the opposite of Nwaba: he is not as good an on-ball defender but can work within the scheme, and he is isn’t a stand-still shooter but will take shots off the dribble and welcome contact. The fact they are using him this much isn’t a positive, but I am glad he is finding a place in the league.
His defense is really good, 71st percentile in defensive EPM… above average block rate, which speaks to your observation about off ball defense and above average rebounder.. And on offense, at least he doesn’t turn it over.
He’s not an NBA player yet, but he’s pretty close…. if he ever figures it out on offense, he’ll definitely stick around 4 or 5 years at least.
It’s also a small sample size. This is definitely a game he can build on. One thing is certain–he won’t pick up bad habits on a bad team.
What a fun ending! Glad I tuned in tonight.
AGAIN FOR SOME OF YOU “YOUNGER ” FOLKS LOOK UP BOBBY PHILS // PLAYED IN THE EARLY 90’S FOR THE CAVS—-STEVENS REMINDS ME ALOT OF HIM
heck yeah NOMAD…. I remember the name!!!
Phils was a guard/wing. Stevens is a bigger dude. He’s a 3/4. More of a 4. Both have that toughness/junkyard dog thing. I get it.
I’d note that all the bench guys were positives on +/- tonight. 3/4 +10 or better.
Windler breakout game. Stevens is an NBA player on D right now.
Bobby Phils. Remember him well. Sad end.
and Phils was a walkon in college and in the NBA. Loved the Phils + Mills + Hills era (Hill actually, but … )
NATE DID A “CLF ” ON YOUR COMMENT—-THAT WAS A GREAT COMEBACK ——-GREAT POST GAME INTERVIEW WITH STEVENS
Love you, man.
enjoy watching Lamar Stevens man, think the Cavs may have a rotation piece here. gotta a lot to work on but when you have a skill that is NBA level you have a shot to stay in the League.
THE ONLY BAD PART ABOUT STAYING UP AND ENJOYING THE CAV ‘W” AND SPENDING TIME WITH MY CTB BRO’S IS ……..NO CHANCE OF ” KISSING THE DOG AND PETTING THE WIFE —THEY ARE BOTH ASLEEP ” : – )
They won twice tonight!
Only kidding, Nomad!
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOT DAMN NATE!!!
I’m dead.
ALLEN //CAPPELLA MATCH UP FUN TO WATCH————D.G. // SEXTON STILL NEED TO CURTAIL THIER FORCED T.O.’S ——-BUT HEY LET’S ENJOY THE ‘W”
SO TRUE CLF —(STEVENS )—-DUDE CAN PLAY—-IS A KEEPER —–JUST KEEP WORKING ON YOUR SKILLS YOUNG MAN ———SOME OF YOU OLD FOLKS —REMEMBER BOBBY PHILS—-WAS A NO NAME PICK UP—ATHLETIC// NOT TOO MUCH IN THE SKILL DEPARTMENT—-WORKED ON HIS CRAFT AND BECAME AN ALL STAR
Indeed–a part of that Hill/Mills/Phills/Brandon team…
MAN IT FEELS GREAT TO HAVE SUCH A POSITIVE VIBE ON CTB —–LOVE IT !!!!!
WE EARNED IT!!! NOTHING GIVEN!!!
And this season, plenty taken away…
LMFAOOOOOOO
WAS OFF BY 1—-SAID EARLIER I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WINDL3R—GET 4- 3’S TONIGHT ——HOPING THIS GETS HIM STARTED AND WE SEE ALOT MORE NIGHTS LIKE TONIGHT
the dude is a player…. numbers don’t lie!!!
He’s a beast. He needs to hone a shot in the offseason. Whether a 3 or an 18 footer, he needs to be a threat. But he absolutely competes and defends at an NBA level.
Agree, love the guy. Skill and character.
yup… needs a 3 ball, that completely changes his outlook.
Collin called this a “must win” game – love that mentality
15/28 from 3 for the Cavs. That’s more like it.
That’s why firing away last game was good.
Absolutely. Warming up the guns!
LMFAOOOOO that’s right!
Sexton and DG didn’t shoot enough of them, but everybody else did their job right.
Windler 5-5.
It was great to see. When he catches it clean ready to shoot, his shot is pure…
GOT DAMN IM PUMPED WHAT A WIN!!!!
WINDL3R/ STEVENS BOTH PLAYED NICE GAMES TONIGHT —WANT TO SEE MORE OF THEM
That looked much more like the Cavs when they looked like a fun team…I know the Hawks ain’t the Nuggets et al, but this looked more like a real team…
loved the way DG fought thru the crappy start, loved the way Sexton fought thru the crappy finish.
Just looked more legit all around…less dumb basketball…
HELL NO FOR THE JB TO —–HE WOULD HAVE HAD ONE OF HIS BONEHEAD I.B. PLAYS PROBABLY RESULTING IN A T.O.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO AMEN TO THAT NOMAD GREAT CALL!!!!!
I agree. No TO there was the smart call…don’t let them set their D…
Yeah. Forgot
You can’t let them pull Trae.
LOL yeah… good call !
even if we would have lost I still would be happy (now I’m thrilled!). Cavs simply played a much getter game of basketball… still lots of warts and growing pains but you at least saw some complete effort by 1-9 in the rotation
got damn Stevens and Windler were absolutely stellar tonight. Honorable mention Cedi.
Cedi was great in quarters 1-3, stunk it up in the 4th but JB had a nice coaching move by just sticking with Windler there
yup.
TIME TOOOOOOO CELEBRATE !!!!!…….”MORE BEER PLEASE “
Really nice bench game for the Cavs…they need that every night…
Woo!!!!
Campy fired up
HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT READ SEXTON!!!!!!! GREAT ATTACK STEVENS!!!!!!!
I effing love sport!!!
Nice to see Stevens get hugged by teammates…he always plays his a$$ off..
Who had Lamar Stevens Dunk for the win!?
Serious odds
Holy crap!!!
LAMAR STEVENS WITH GAME WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow…
Argh. Really felt like JB should’ve called timeout.
offense for defense sub maybe?
Tough break, think he thought we could push the pace and catch the Hawks off guard
Great D Cavs
Bad strip of DG…ugh…
OH NO DG! :(
REBOUND WINDLER!!! GREAT TEAM DEFENSE!
Used all the clock but it went in.
GREAT DECISION SEXTON!!!!!! ATTACKED THE MISMATCH WITH THE KISS!!!!
Trae’s game is like Curry’s, if Curry weren’t a transcendent player…
Curry was never this much of a wuss. And that’s saying something about how much a wuss Trae is.
Yeah, Trae is like a bizarro version of Curry…
WTF DG ?????
Omg. What a dumb challenge.