Quick React: Latest Cavs’ Draft News
2022-06-07There’s a new report from cleveland.com’s Chris Fedor regarding two “surprise” names that are in the running for the 14th pick of the 2022 NBA Draft: Dalen Terry of Arizona and MarJon Beauchamp of G League Ignite. Here’s some quick analysis and reaction to the news…
When a team has the last pick of the lottery it needs to cast a wide net. #Cavs are doing just that. Sources say the front office has given J.B. Bickerstaff 10-12 film breakdowns of potential choices at No. 14. Dalen Terry & MarJon Beauchamp are 2 of themhttps://t.co/ileQIcBnWa
— Chris Fedor (@ChrisFedor) June 6, 2022
1. Cavs casting a wide net
According to earlier reports, the Cavs are laser-focused on finding a “two way wing” to complete the core of the team that has an All-Star guard (Darius Garland), an All-Star center (Jarrett Allen), and arguably a generational talent in rookie Evan Mobley. Given the fact good to great wings never hit free agency and are never cheap, the easiest route for the Cavs to add wing talent is through the draft. The Cavs are leaving no stone unturned with their names being linked to every possible wing that could be available at the 14th pick: Tari Eason, Jeremy Sochan, Dyson Daniels, Ousmane Dieng, Jalen Williams, and Malaki Branham just off the top of the head. Even though Dalen Terry and Marjon Beauchamp are currently projected as fringe first rounders, their size and athleticism make them obligatory candidates for the Cavs to check out.
2. Why Dalen Terry?
There are a number things that stand out when discussing Dalen Terry. First off, he has ideal size and athleticism for an NBA wing, standing at over 6’7″ with a seven foot wingspan. His tape pops with defensive playmaking (3.7% career stocks rate) and spectacular dunks off of transition and cutting. He hasn’t turned 20 years old yet, so he will have the ability to add grown man muscle and speed in the next few years. His statistical production compares favorably to recent Cavs’ draft selection Isaac Okoro, with Terry sporting a better career rebounding rate (9.2% vs 7.6%), a better assist rate (18.8% vs. 13.1%), and a better career three point shooting percentage (35% vs. 28.6%).
What are the areas of concern for Terry? Much like Okoro, their are concerns about how limited Terry is on the offensive end, especially in regard to on ball offense and shotmaking ceiling. He’s not a player who’s shown he can create his own offense off the dribble, mainly regarded as an afterthought in Arizona’s offensive scheme with a far below average career usage rate of 13.9%. His decision making on the ball is also of some concern especially given his low usage, with a terrible career turnover rate of 18.6%, though he made strides in that department from his freshman to sophomore year. Finally, he’s a career sub-70% free throw shooter, which provokes concern about how consistent he will be as a jump shooter in the NBA. With his current offensive limitations, it’s fair to say that Terry’s largely a one way wing with time on his side to improve to a passable offensive player.
3. Why MarJon Beauchamp?
Beauchamp is another defense-first wing in the mold of Dalen Terry and Isaac Okoro. He has nearly identical height, weight, wingspan measurements as Terry does, though he looks a bit more filled out strength-wise as an older prospect at 21.7 years of age. His tape, like Terry, pops with defensive playmaking (3.8% stock rate in G League) and spectacular finishes on cuts and transition. With an outstanding 63.8% true shooting percentage, his length and athleticism allow him the ability to be efficient scoring around the basket. Beauchamp also showed a superior ability to get rebounds, with a higher rebound rate (11.2%) than Terry in the G League, which has a much better quality of competition.
In a similar vein to Okoro, Beauchamp appears to have massive limitations regarding his jump shot and ability to make plays off the dribble for himself and others. He shot only 24.2% from three in G League, and shot an obviously sub par free throw percentage of 65%. His film shows him mostly doing damage as a play finisher, rarely showing any ability to create for himself and others. His 10.6% assist rate in G League is an obvious concern, although the ball wasn’t in his hands much due to playing with fellow NBA prospects Scoot Henderson and Dyson Daniels, who both had the ball in their hands a lot. There’s a legitimate question as to whether Beauchamp will be a wing in the NBA because of his lack of perimeter offensive skills. His G League tape appeared to show a guy who operated more as a “small ball” big rather than NBA wing. Perhaps the hope is that he could grow into the wing role although at nearly 22 years old, time is of the essence.
4. What does the Cavs’ interest in Terry and Beauchamp say, if anything?
Given the Cavs reported interest in Terry and Beauchamp, they clearly feel the need to add competition to the perimeter defensive stopper role that Okoro and Lamar Stevens currently occupy. It’s fair to say that both Terry and Beauchamp are equal, if not better, prospects than Okoro or Stevens were coming out of college. But the problem with both Terry and Beauchamp as prospects is neither player will improve the Cavs’ offense especially where they’re weakest: pick and roll playmaking and spot up shooting. Both players represent an attempt by the Cavs to double down on the defensive end and hope they pop on offense. As such it’s hard to endorse either of these guys as the correct pick at 14, especially when there’s higher offensive upside wings such as Ochai Agbaji, Malaki Branham, Jalen Williams, Tari Eason, Christian Braun, or Jake LaRavia to name a few.
5. What do you think?
What say you, Commentariat? Would you rather go higher offensive upside wing? Or double down on the defense? Sound off below!
new post up!
A ways back, TNT got into an argument about who “drove the bus” when GSW won 2 titles with KD. Chuck said Curry, Kenny said KD via his 2 finals MVP’s. I agreed with Chuck, mainly on the strength of Ty Lue saying they prioritized Curry on D. Now, with finals MVP the only real hole in Curry’s resume, some internet twits seem to be suggesting that Steph has never been that great in the Finals. My memory bank says he was fantastic with KD, and more uneven (but still GSW’s best player) in ’15 and ’16. Is my memory… Read more »
2015: 26.0/5.2/6.3 on 44.3/38.5 splits. 58.5% TS%. 37 in Game 5 with series tied at 2. Clearly best GSW player, Iggy wins finals MVP averaging 16.3/5.8/4 while “holding” LeBron to 35.8/13.3/8.8 on 39.8% shooting.
2016: 22.6/4.9/3.7 on 40.3/40.0. 58.0% TS%. LeBron doninated his @$$. Criticism justified.
2017: 26.8/8.0/9.4 on 44.0/38.8. 61.9% TS%. KD was clearly better (35.2/8.2/5.4 on blistering 55.6/47.4 at 69.8% TS) but Steph was still VERY good. KD feasted hecause Steph bent the D towards him.
2018: 27.5/6.0/6.8 on 40.2/41.5 at 56.0% TS%. Again, Curry was good with the D concentrating on him, but KD was just better and hyper efficient at 28.8/10.8/7.5 on 52.6/40.9 & 65.4% TS.
2019: 30.5/5.3/6.0 on 41.4/34.3 for a 59.8% TS%.
He’s been good, but rarely great, and hardly ever superhuman. Though he still warps the D to an absurd extent, allowing KD/Klay open shots. KD feasted, Klay not as much (prior to 2019 where he was excellent).
2022 Curry: 34.3/6.3/3.8. 50.0/49.0 splits. 66.4% TS%. That is filthy. No big assist game yet, though. Not a lot of help.
Tatum was 8-23 with 6 TOs. He was awful.
Curry with 43 on 26 shots, 10 boards, 4 dimes, 5 TOs. Wiggins with 17 points and 16 boards. Klay finally made a couple shots late. Poole made some early. Dubs won the glass 55-42. Kerr finally benched Draymond.
Both teams play very good D. Both teams are sloppy on O (31 TOs). Whomever wins the boards or makes shits down the stretch (or both) has won the games.
Advantage GSW now.
GS in in the twilight of their days (WTF was i thinking ??).. BOS is a good team but by no means a dominant force.. door is wide open for the cavs if they keep developing (okoro needs to make the 3rd year jump or it is safe to say he was a bust at #5) and korbly & co can actually improve the roster in a meaningful way in the next 2 weeks.. this is where the rubber meets the road for the FO.. time to demonstrate that you are above average
Hope Bill Simmons enjoyed watching that performance. I know the rest of those great fans did.
104-97 with 20 seconds left.. curry saving the day.. bos not closing the deal.. glad i didn’t bet… don’t have a dog in this fight.. should be a nice 3-game series.. tatum and brown needed to stay even with steph’s production but obviously failed to do so
Boston choked. Rushed, impatient & just plain silly offensive choices in Q4. Curry gonna be Curry, so if you fail to execute at your end …. 🪦
Live by the three, die by the three. Their crappy role players missed down the stretch (for a change)…
A 3PT shooting contest against Curry usually goes badly for the other team.
They clearly choked.They just didn’t look comfortable or get good shots in crunch time.
the “ay” boys, klay and dray, having a limp night.. at half-time, dick-pic is scoreless with 3 manly rebounds.. klay (a mere shadow) has 5 pts and 1 reb.. father time using his scythe tonight.. me thinketh it is over for GS.. toasted.. in the meantime, tatum and brown are cruising with 28, and white is proving himself a great addition with 10..
No need to beat a dead horse. I hope they go for an offensive minded player if they draft any at all in the first round.
seeing GSW like this just annoys me why Lebron/Kyrie/Cavs couldnt just figure shit out and keep the train going…the Warriors werent gonna last and be this strong. I do agree with Jason they got fortunate with injuries from opp. this postseason, but if Lebron wanted to add more rings he should have stayed and probably had 2 more at very least. Understood why he wanted LA (more outside basketball reasons) but this was pretty easy ticket for him to just stay and dominate a conference for another decade.
don’t think so.
First of all, no one knew that Durant was leaving at that time.
If Kyrie had stayed, it probably would have been Cleve/GSW in the finals for several more years, with GSW favored to win most.
When LeBron left, the cupboard was bare and the Cavs had no help coming. It would have been hard to get back to the finals, and leaving was better for everyone.
The Warriors got lucky with iniuries this year in the POs. Denver without Murray and Porter Jr. and Ja getting hurt. Dallas was mostly healthy (aside from Hardaway). But the Nets, Heat, and Bucks (even in their depleted states) were still better than any team GSW beat this year. Earlier in the POs, I thought the winner of the Bucks/Celtics series would be champ. I did not give the C’s full credit because Middleton got hurt. And it still went 7. Ditto in the Miami series. GSW is good at stopping/slowing heliocentric offenses (LeBron/Jokic/Luka). But when the other team operates… Read more »
+1 for ‘heliocentric’!
Superb.
+2 from me! I had to stop and think about that one.
Klay is clearly not close to himself yet (how could he be?). Best evidence is Draymond guarding Brown a lot. This throws GSW’s whole D off. If Klay cannot guard Brown, you cannot put him on Tatum, that has to be Wiggins.
That leaves GSW with Curry, Klay, and Looney to guard Smart, Horford, and Williams. There are some size issues there, at all three spots. Though not as bad if it Grant and not Timelord. And if GSW has downsized and Dray is at the 5 (with Porter or Poole in the game), it is even worse.
Now, even their Death Lineup/Hampton 5 heyday, Kerr did not like to go small with Dray at the 5 for extended stretches. It wears him (and the rest of the team) out. And size will start to pay off inside eventually.
Those GSW teams had more defensive versatility on the wing (prime Klay, prime Iggy, Livingston, + Barnes/KD). This iteration only has Wiggins with Klay & Iggy not at that level.
Thus, Dray has to guard Brown, taking him off the glass AND his rover/disruptor role. He cannot play CF anymore, he has to stay with Brown.
Similarly, with Klay subpar & Poole struggling, there is more creative burden on Green (and Steph). Liv & KD are gone, Iggy is not a factor.
Asking Dray to guard an all-star level wing, be the secondary creator on O, and somehow find time to still bang on the glass AND be a defensive disruptor is asking a ton, especially at his age.
Still, GSW have the best player in the series by a mile (Curry). More finals experience. And game 7 at home if they can get there.
A real supernova Steph game (40+) with buckets in crunchtime, or a big game from Klay, Wiggins, or Poole and this shifts back into GSWs favor.
nice analysis bro
great vid on yt..
Patrick Beverley pinpoints who’s to BLAME for Warriors’ Game 3 loss | First Take
stephen A on wilting wiggins is priceless..
love “wilting wiggins”!
I know Nate hates the flopping, but Draymond’s histrionic whining after being called for obvious fouls is the most annoying thing in the sport, for me. Like, we all saw it, man, just shut up.
VERY GOOD PTS LEO—AND –“IF’ // WHEN THE CELTICS WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP –THEY CAN’T DISS THE CAVS FOR NOT BEATING THE DUBS—–THIS IS A TOTALY DIFFERENT DUBS TEAM THAN WHEN THE CAVS PLAYED THEM
THANKS SIMMO —( DIENG SCOUTING REPORT )—IS IT SAFE TO SAY HE IS A “SMALLER SCALE” MOBLEY —–CAN ENVISION 2– 6′ 10′ + — PLAYERS PLAYING PT GD// FORWARD EFFICIENTLY AND THE LENGTH// INSTINCTS ON DEFENSE WOULD BE SCARY
So Curry isnt the savior the media wants him to be..Dray is just a bad player who if we was drafted by a shitty lottery team would be out of the league years ago due to his shenanigans and lack of good play. The Celtics are just playing smarter and have good guys who know their roles (basically beating Warriors with their own style of play). I don’t want to see another Curry v. Lebron piece…Lebron would beat these Celtics if he was in Curry’s shoes and there is no doubt.
I don’t envy Kerr having to deal with Bray. Same insufferable a-hole as ever, but he’s barely an NBA player anymore. He absolutely sucked tonight, as he does most nights. Just killing the Warriors every minute he’s on the court. Barely can even defend anyone…he certainly didn’t tonight.
its interesting seeing Dray and Klay be shells of themselves (although Klays injury was pretty brutal and explains some of it) and Warriors crumble. Also shows how the Warriors were able to max out a lot of potential of guys within the team during the last 7-8 years. Wiggins looks legit…Poole looks like a near max guy. But would those two be good outside of Warriors system? Hmmm
Hey, looks like Horford learned some lessons from Delly after dissing his style a few years back. Crunching Curry on the loose ball get.
Really dislike him. He had the dirtiest play (against Delly) in that entire Cavs series, but the media mostly just slurped him and apologized for his actions. Just call a dirty play a dirtly play.
(this one was just a scramble, imo…but he clearly attempted to throw a dangerous elbow at Delly merely because he was frustrated that Delly was playing hard against him)
100%. Had the temerity to say that the NBA is a brotherhood that Delly didn’t respect. A$$hole.
poor dray.. 2 pts with 4 min left in q4.. and 4 rebounds ? sad but humorous.. but mostly humorous
Scent of schadenfreude is strong.
a fine word well placed
I hate Braymond so much I cannot root for GSW.
Go Celtics.
Intelligent play by Boston here. Burning the clock as much as possible, being patient and then putting it in.
SPORTS ILLUSTRATED LATEST MOCK DRAFT HAS DIENG AS A POTENTIAL TOP 10——-MAYBE IT IS THE …………” MORE BEER PLEASE ” BUT I AM ENAMORED WITH THIS KID——SIMMO HELP ME OUT-… IS IT “TOO MANY MORE BEERS ” OR CAN THIS KID PLAY// HAVE POTENTIAL // GOOD FIT WITH THE CAVS
I like his potential, NOMAD. Here’s a good scouting report.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUotd_ABlgM
GOING TO —SAUCEY BREW FRIDAY NIGHT——JUST OPENED IN SANDUSKY——ANY OPINIONS /// ANYONE BEEN TO ONE OF THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS—–HAVE ALREADY TRIED THEIR MEXCICAN LAGER AND REALLY ENJOYED …………” MORE BEER PLEASE ‘
IT IS ALWAYS “HANGING ” BUCKAROO !!!! :-)
TOTALLY AGREE WITH JASON—NO TO BOTH AT 14—-TRY AGAIN AT 39 —–IF YOU ARE GOING TO SO CALL “GAMBLE ‘ THEN DO IT ON DIENG
how’s it hanging NOMAD bro..
this is THE year when kolby & co either earn their $$ (and show their brilliant IQs) or clearly demonstrate that they are impostors (and pretenders).. the FO gets ZERO credit for grabbing mobley at #3.. imbeciles, idiots and morons would have all done the same thing.. the windler, okoro and gangsta picks alone suggest that the FO is cognitively impaired..
don’t forget Jellyroll, or whoever that #1 pick was the year before Wiggins.
i think they loving call him “gumdrop”.. but i think that disaster is on griffin
thnx. I couldn’t think of “gumdrop” when I needed it.
Keon Ellis is a criminally underrated prospect, would easily take him at #58 and would consider him @ #39 if their guy doesn’t fall.
https://twitter.com/MavsDraft/status/1534342191744696321?s=20&t=HcbT4qBOPZ4HBd8sXNvesg
Definitely interesting with #39. I’m good taking shots at three 6’6” to 6’8” guys and hoping one of them pops.
yup, he’s more Okoro’s height at around 6’4″ but he’s a Klay Thompson-esque shooter with far more defensive playmaking than Okoro’s ever shown.
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1534553692606808066?s=20&t=1ykaWSg9LWEnQHskcp5Rxw
FWIW, if we want a defensive only guy (I don’t), we should take Eason or Sochan.
Too many teams think shooting/offense can be taught but defense can’t. While shooting can certainly improve, Kawhi level transformations are very rare. Kidd-Gilchrist’s more common.
I’d much rather take the shooter with good size and try and pick one with the desire to play D and good smarts. Klay Thompson. Mikal Bridges.
agree. a lot of NBA players never learn to shoot. watching a bad shooter take foul shots is instructive. you can see they have been coached forever, but they don’t get it. for example, they try to flex their knees, and “shoot with their legs”. but they don’t get the point, and come to a full stop before shooting. this totally negates the point of flexing their knees. on the other hand, everyone can learn (or, get the desire) to PLAY HARD on D, and give it their best. however, those with modest athleticism and speed are not likely to… Read more »
I notice the same thing in FTs. The guys bend their knees, straighten, then shoot. Awful. The whole idea is to use your legs AS you shoot, thereby having to use your arms less. Which should yield less variance and a more repeatable shot. Like a short swing vs a long swing in baseball. Another thing I see a lot of is that guys don’t center the ball (at their release point) with the front of the rim. It is off to the side slightly. If they are short, the ball karoons off to the side. And they miss left… Read more »
I had a pretty good scam of being the “old guy walking the ball up the court”, but if I got anywhere near the 3pt line, turn a step into a “jump forward jump shot”, which gave me about 2′ more range. If you do this smoothly, the defender is casually backpedaling and has no chance to get a hand up.
Yup… totally agree re: philosophy.
Ugh first warning sign is both these guys are Okoro 2.0 and thats no good. Give me a scorer and stop with these ‘defense-first guys’ its code for the dude cant shoot and won’t give you offense in a league where offense rules. Cavs are in a tight spot in this draft so I would wing it (maybe a pun) and get a guy who can score buckets and potentially drop 15-20/game.
koby took okoro over maxey.. big ugh on that fuck-up
over Haliburton too.
this ‘defensive first’ philosophy just doesnt work anymore in the league…any ‘defense’ is just culled together as a collective but really a team needs to just score over 110/game and they are in good hands…Cavs need guys who score buckets.
Yup… agreed Leo.
I am not giving up on Ice yet, but I would have taken Haliburton my own self. Maxey I was dodgier on. He SHOULD be cleaning up with all the attention Embiid & Harden draw. Sheesh.
I was big on Hali and Devin Vassell, both of whom are clearly ahead of Okoro’s development.
No to both at 14.
I am more flexible at 39.
yup, agreed.
Put me in the “this is smoke” camp. Cavs hoping one of these guys is there with the Spurs’ pick, and also signaling they may be willing to trade back. If they take another developmental wing at 14, it will be a very dumb decision.
Makes sense re: smoke for trade(s).
I’m more for offensive upside, either some sort of playmaking, or shooting, or both. But Terry is a guy they should be looking at, so I’m glad they are. Beauchamp I have not seen at all.
yup, agreed.