Cavs Free Agency Primer 2024 (or, To Dream the Impossible Dream)
2024-07-01It’s a quiet Sunday evening. The Free agency negotiation period started around 6 PM, and things have been eerily quiet. There have been some minor deals: KCP to the Magic, Drummond to the Sixers, Chris Paul is a Spur… But for the most part, teams are keeping their powder dry. For the Cavs, it seems like they don’t have much up their sleeve for free agency. The Cavs are about 5.5 million below the first Salary Cap Tax apron, due to cap holds on Isaac Okoro ($11.8 million qualifying offer) and Jaylon Tyson ($3.3 million). If the Cavs were somehow able to shed Okoro’s deal without taking on extra salary, they’d have the full $8.64 non-taxpayer Midlevel exception to use on free agency. Depending on how that shakes out, they might be able to use the non-taxpayer mid-level exception at $5.34 million.
The Cavs are in an odd spot. They don’t have much room to work with below the tax apron, and they have some roster holes: most specifically they could really use a long 3/4 and a big who can shoot, and thereby play with Allen or Mobley. Commenter, Jason, recently summed up the Cavs’ depth chart nicely.
12 spots taken:
PG: Garland, Porter
Combo Guard: Mitchell, Jerome
SG: Merrill
Wing: Strus, LeVert, Tyson
F: Wade, Niang
PF/C: E Mobley
C: Allen
Free Agents:
Wing: Okoro (RFA), Bates (RFA)
F: Morris, Nance (2W)
PF/C: I. Mobley (2W)
C: TT, Jones
This doesn’t leave a lot of room to add dudes, if you think Okoro and Bates will be re-signed. The Cavs could probably squeeze one more two-way if they decided to cut Isaiah Mobley, but I doubt they will. What they should be looking to do is some maneuvering to grab some rotation players at a lower price and possibly move off the Niang contract. But since Georges is good friends with Donovan Mitchell, I doubt that happens, and if it does, it will be after the ink is dry on Mitchell’s contract extension.
It would also be nice to have one or two other roster spots to carry depth at the big man spot now the the Cavs have a ton of guards. Attaching Ty Jerome’s $2.5 million to any deal, shouldn’t be that hard of a sell. If the Cavs didn’t have so many guards, it would be nice to see if Ty could give them anything.
To add anyone of substance, the Cavs either need to cut bait on Okoro, or accept that they’ll be hard capped at a little over $8.6 million if they add someone with the MLE. With those parameters, it’s likely that if the Cavs are to do more than rest on their laurels, they’ll likely need to make a trade. Here’s some deals to consider if the Cavs were to trade for someone – deals a risk averse Koby Altman would loathe, but just let me tilt at windmills for a while I dream of the Cavs doing something meaningful in free agency.
Trade Madness
Trade 1: Send Isaac to Detroit. I get it. Why would you send Isaac back to J.B.? What did Ice ever do to deserve that fate. On the other hand, Bickerstaff may value him more than many other players and on Detroit, Ice might finally be able to develop an offensive game. I’d love to trade Isaac for Beef Stew – a player who can shoot, rebound, and run the floor with Evan Mobley or Jarrett Allen. In this deal, Ice gets a nice pay bump and the Cavs get a back-up 4/5. They also get off Okoro who is not worth what they’ll pay him. See the end of this article for a list of guys who can brick threes at a third of the price.
Why would the Pistons do this when they have like $50 million in cap room, and could just give Okoro an RFA offer? Well, cause they want to pay a salary for Okoro that’s reasonable. But in all honesty, they probably wouldn’t do it. But one can dream.
Trade 2: the Darius Garland dump. I know the Spurs just agreed to terms with Chris Paul, but let’s not pretend he can play more than 15 a night. Garland and CP3 would be a perfect one-two punch for San Antonio, and Garland could absolutely use the tutoring. The Cavs get a couple picks back in this “four quarters for a dollar” trade, but I don’t love this one either.
Trade 3: the Brandon Ingram Soul Sale. The Cavs could find lots of suitors for Jarrett Allen, considering that he’s a bargain for a borderline all-star starting center, who’s making $20 mil per the next two seasons. In this trade, Koby Altman wakes up early and goes down to the crossroads to see a man in a suit and tie. Koby challenges the devil to a battle of cap knowledge and loses. The Cavs get Brandon Ingram and an economically impossible future when his contract demands explode in a year, and Herb Jones who is a real, honest-to-god stopper against long 3s and 4s. Koby must give up his soul or include an Ingram extension which is not something that should make any of us comfortable. Watching him mope through the playoffs sends more than a couple Cavs fans to Hell.
There are other deals out there for Allen but most would require three teams. The Cavs could go after Jerami Grant who is a good scorer on a bad team, but Portland doesn’t make sense for Allen, so a third team would be necessary.
Trade 4: What Could Have Been. I know this is a pipe dream, and I thought it might happen, but all indications are that LeBron will find a way to re-up and play with Bronny in L.A. I personally think Bronny will develop into a good NBA player and that he had a run of bad luck at USC. But who knows? This is what the Darius Garland exit ramp in L.A. would look like: Darius and Georges for the King and Bronny. Of course, we all know that’s not happening.
Trade 5: A Balky Knee to be Named Later. Eli loves the idea of trading for Zach LaVine. If you look at how the Celtics built a championship roster, they bought low on guys like the Zinger and Al Horford. LaVine might be a guy worth taking on if you think he can return to his all-star form. When he played with an elite point guard, LaVine thrived, and a Garland, LaVine, Mitchell back-court is a deadly perimeter trio. Unfortunately I don’t trust the Cavs’ training staff to manage Lavine’s knee, Zach’s best offensive days are behind him, and his best defensive days never were.
Trade 6: Cavulturing DFS. With the trade of Mikal Bridges to the Knicks, Brooklyn has to be in rebuild mode, right? This moves gives the Nets some salary relief this year and next, and gives the Cavs a playable 3/4. I’d love to see the Cavs be able to grab Cam Johnson from the Nets while the buzzards are circling, but I don’t see it happening. This is the best they could do.
Trade 7: Let’s get Weird. Darius goes to La-La-Land. The Big Finnish goes back to Cleveland, and The Cavs commit to playing three huge dudes all the time. One of a thousand issues with this trade is that it leaves the Cavs are suddenly thin at guard. Well, that, and Lauri would have to give the Cavs a wink-wink deal on re-signing next summer.
The Mighty Mid-Level
If the Cavs are able to somehow preserve their mid-level, there are a few players that would make sense for them to target.Jalen Smith: a collective eyebrow went up around the association when Indy decided not to tender a qualifying offer to Jalen Smith, a 23-year-old big with a nice shooting touch, and impressive output. My thought is that the Pacers are looking for a sign-and-trade move here, and the RFA process would not make it easy. But if things fall through for Jalen, a nice two year mid-level would look nice. He is the perfect guy to put with Mobley or Allen, but I doubt he wants to lose his Bird rights.
Aaron Wiggins and Isaiah Joe were seemingly squeezed out by all the depth in OKC and didn’t get qualifying offers, but they put up good numbers, especially from downtown in rotation minutes in OKC, and are just hitting 25. Both are probably absolutely worth a mid-level and would cost you a hell of a lot less than Okoro.
Saddiq Bey is another player who did not get a qualifying offer after an ACL tear last year. He is expected to be a back by January, and could definitely be a buy low option for Cleveland.
Gary Harris: the Magic added KCP, likely making Harris the odd man out. He shot 37% last year from deep, and he’s a solid defender. I’m not sure he moves the needle much.
Kyle Anderson: Slo-mo will likely have to take a significant pay cut to return the cash strapped T-Wolves after making $11 million last year. Anderson has a painfully slow release on his deep ball, and can only occassionally hit from the corners (22% from deep last season), but has hovered near 40 some years. Still, he does everything else well and can play four positions.
Robert Covington: RoCo will be 34 this year, but is aging like Jeff Green. He shot 33% from deep, can still guard three positions and the full mid-level is probably the best he can hope for in free agency.
Gary Trent Jr.: Sure the Raps could probably re-sign him at over the mid-level. Sure, he’s just 25 and a solid shooter and defender, but somewhere the money has to run out. Could GTJ play a couple seasons on a make-good deal to get a bigger pay-day down the road? Someone like him, Tyus Jones, or Buddy Hield are going to be left out in the cold by free agency. The Cavs need to be ready to pounce when the options become available.
Caleb Martin opted out of his deal, and you’d think the bump to the full mid-level would be in his sights. I can’t say I think he’s worth it.
Mo Bamba: the big guy hunts blocks and threes, two things the Cavs need. The mid-level might be too low for him, and at 25 Mo will have his pick of teams if he has to play for it. But the dude shot 39% last year on decent volume and has a monster block rate. He’d be an interesting long term Allen replacement. I’m just saying.
Luke Kennard can shoot and he’s 6-5. He can’t do much else, but he’s taller than Merrill. The Grizz decided not to pick up his $14.8 million option, and are rumored to be working on a new deal. But if that falls through? The Cavs should swoop.
Dario Saric shot 38% from deep for the Dubs last year, just turned 30, and Atkinson knows him from his Golden State days. He’s an ok rebounder who is better on offense than defense. Seems like a solid backup stretch 4.
Mr. Stock, Delon Wright was a guy I wanted from Washington last year, and he ended up being a buyout guy for Miami. At 6-5 Wright can play three positions, doesn’t turn the ball over, and put up decent stock numbers. He was was super streaky as a shooter, but he did have a monster game against Boston in the first round. He doesn’t shoot over 40%, but neither does LeVert who’ll probably command four times as much money.
Utah’s Kris Dunn is a defense first guard, who is 6-4, shoots judiciously from deep when open, and has fantastic stock rates. He’s put up solid EPM in every season except one in Portland, but he can’t stick anywhere. He’d be a fantastic addition if LeVert gets moved.
Point Guard Jordan McLaughlin shot 47% from deep for Minnesota in 11 minutes a game, at a good attempt rate with an EPM of +0.9 (79th percentile). He’s just 6-1, but if something were to happen to Mitchell or Garland in terms of getting moved in the offseason, McLaughlin should get a look.
Spencer Dinwiddie has never been a negative EPM player in his career. A career 33% shooter from deep, What Spencer for Hire lacks in three point accuracy, he makes up for in volume. He also doesn’t turn the ball over. If one of LeVert, Garland, or Mitchell leaves, he could be a nice option. He’s played well for Atkinson before, and I believe the Cavs can pay him in crypto.
Bargain Hunting
Someone has to be this year’s Derrick Jones Jr., the 6-5 wing who can guard four positions, hit open threes, and run the floor. Dallas grabbed DJJ with a salary barely above the minimum and he started most games in the playoffs of a finals run. With that in mind, the Cavs need to make a run at a bargain free agent for the minimum or a lower salary who other teams might be sleeping on.
Precious Achiuwa was the odd man out in New York with the ascendence of Hartenstein, but at 24, he’s just entering his prime and has a lot more experience than the Damian Joneses of the world. Precious probably will go for more than a minimum, but 4-5 mil for a third big? That might do it. Plus the Gollum memes on the Live Thread would be lit.
Goga Bitadze: I said the Cavs should’ve signed him last year when they had injuries, but they didn’t. Goga sets good screens, rebounds, shoots, and complains to the refs like nobody’s business. The Georgian center had a 63 TS% last year and four stocks per/75. He’s also a solid passer. Half the mid-level seems like a bargain.
Tristan Vukcevic: the Wizards put the 20-year-old Vukcevic on waivers after a 10 game stint where TV put up an EPM of -0.7. While that might not seem good, it’s 64th percentile in the league, and for a 20-year-old big who can shoot (28% from deep)? That’s worth taking a flyer on.
James Wiseman: Detroit didn’t tender the 2020 No. 2 pick. He’s a big body. At the very least see if you can develop James in the GL. He needs reps.
Svi Myhailiuk didn’t play much for Boston, but when he played, he played at replacement level, and did so the season before for the Knicks and Hornets. He would be worth a flyer on a minimum deal even if it’s as a floor stretcher. He’s 6-8 and could be a dude who could contribute as he enters his prime at 26. Maybe a cheaper Luke Kennard?
Cedi Osman: he’s a free agent. He plays fast, he has some size. He deserves a shot with a coach that knows what he’s doing on offense. Right?
Dennis Smith Jr.: the former lottery flameout for the Mavs has made a name for himself as a defensive focused point guard. He’s not a good shooter at 28% from deep, but he’s an absolute pest in the mold of Gary Payton II, with a dEPM of +3, which is insane for a guard. If the Cavs could get him on the cheap, it would be a steal.
And with that I’ll bid my fellow Sancho Pazas goodnight with the comfort of knowing the Cavs have no intention of adding any of these guys.
Recap up BTW.
Guardians grab Bazzana with the first pick. Simmo you have any intel since he’s from Australia?
Super athlete, excellent in all sports including basketball.
Played with the best players in Oz while in HS.
Scholar of the game, studies everything.
All of that. Add: extremely intelligent, very driven – has done it the hard way with peers consistently doubting him (regularly the youngest on his teams growing up, which leads to nasty peer crap). I lost touch on his career once he went from Australia to Oregon and I don’t really follow baseball that much. Not surprised he has ended up where he has though.
Box score only for me, but seemed like a nice win. Bates, Tyson Travers, & Nance with nice numbers. CPJ too save the TOs. Smith & Burns too.
TYSON—BATES SOUNDS LIKE THEY ALSO HAD GOOD GAMES—— TYSON BEEN REBOUNDING SO FAR—- GOOD TO SEE
TAVARES WAS THE MAN 👍——A BIGGER VERSION OF DELLY 👍🏀
Anyone watch today’s summer league game? Better looking box score anyway.
SUCKS ABOUT HOLMES——- DOESNT SUCK WALTON GOING TO DETROIT—- BETTER STOCK UP ON CHEERLEADERS FOR HIM 🤪
😂😂😂
The Orlando roster is heavy heavy on mid guards.
Black, Jett, Cole, Gary Harris, KCP and Suggs.
Great depth but do we fear any of them in a series besides Suggs assuming he straightens his shot out?
REALIZE CAVS ARENT GOING TO “ SUMMER REPEAT “ —-JUST HOPI SEE “ BODIES— PLAYERS——EMONI. / TYSON / CPJ. / BURNS / TAVRES GIMME A GLIMMER OF HOPE THAT THEY CAN HELP/ IMPROVE OUR BENCH/ ROSTER
Elder Mobley & Cooper were 2 of the best players on that team.
DaRon Holmes out for the season. bummer.
Summer league a mess. CPJ awful, Emoni at least is quicker to catch and shoot w/o rhythm dribbles, Tyson was out there and useful and versatile but sort of meh.
Jett and AB looking like second year lottery picks. Tristan good too.
Luke Walton gone to Detroit. Can’t say I’m sad.
I don’t like the way the team looks,,,,,,time to ask the tough questions,,,,,,is it time to fire Kenny? Has he lost the locker room of the team he’s not even coaching? I sense they’ve tuned him out…………sigh,,,,,,,…………………………………………………..sorry,couldn’t resist. Cavs are back……Time to stir it up.
DAMN —— ABYSMAL PERFORMANCE FROM “ YOUNG “ CAVS ——— GARDS ARE “ FREE FALLING “ FROM 1st PLACE——- “ THE “ MRS NOMAD HAS A HEADACHE ( AGAIN) 😡————- “ MORE BEER 🍺 PLEASE “ 👍🍺👍🍺
Last year’s heady play was unlikely to repeat. I’m ok with rough team performances as long as I see some signs of game awareness from the youngsters.
They’ll be fine. Also, Travers didn’t play. A Cavs squad without a gritty Aussie in it’s ranks is ripe for the picking 😉.
GIVE BURNS MORE RUN TIME—— SEE IFTHEY IMPROVE/ ADJUST BY SUNDAY
DaSILDA. 3/ 5 FROM 3’s —— HE IS GOING TO HELP TH MAGIC THIS YEAR
DID ANYONE WATCH THE GAME —- LOOKED AT BOX SCORE—- NOT IMPRESSED
Jalen Tyson was abysmal… Oddly everyone old enough to drink other than DJ Burns was awful.
I was bad. Summer League Pick up game. Not sure this squad can win any games. Can Travers play? I remember he kind of looked heady last year. Pete Nance seemed totally out of position at the 5.
he has a trebuchet shot but it was decent at UNC. I think he has to be a stretchy 5 to make it in the league
Emoni the main bright spot so far. Has put on enough bulk to look kind of normal, rather than super slight. Threw up a slick alley-oop and has made some shots.
He and first half DJ Burns were the bright spots. Every other prospect guy was ass.
CPJ not looking good so far. Not really directing things, going one on one and taking mid-ranges, missing open 3s.
Summer League Time!
Cavs getting smoked by the Orlando starters, who are loaded. DJ with a nice soft touch on his little turn-around.
76ers TO SIGN G TRENT
Watched Windy’s 5 good minutes segment on Youtube. Talked about expecting Mobley’s contract to be done relatively soon. He expects Ice to be back; main complication there is that they are desperately trying to avoid the second tax apron. I’m not super educated on all that, just know that unless teams are convinced they have a shot at winning at all they are doing absolutely everything they can to avoid it. Cavs hoping to make a trade to shed some salary but not a lot of compelling options there so far. He didn’t say as much but I assume this… Read more »
Mobley’s extension should not move the needle this year (or next, depending on structure) on our cap. It is after that it gets dicey.
In terms of salary, we have 12 guys signed for $159+mil. Our dead cap puts us around $161 mil. Cap is $140. Tax is $170. 1st apron $178. 2nd apron $188.9.
With our rook signed, we are at roughly $164 with 13 guys signed. Signing Ice puts us in the tax for sure. Borderline 1st apron. Safely under 2nd. IDK if 2 ways count vs the cap.
MAGIC PURSUING TYUS JONES —- WOULD HELP THEM ALOT ——THINK THAT WOULD PUT THEM PAST THE CAVS
way too early to be fine tuning the pecking order. player development, injuries, coaching, …
Tyus Jones is good.
He’s pretty good, but they have a ton of good guards and still need to find Jett and AB time.
Orlando has a lot of quality depth now (Cole Anthony is still around too) but their top end talent is still pretty mid. We’d still win a series
haven’t been hearing much lately from the “NBA Insiders” who were saying DM would never resign with the Cavs.
Bontemps – crickets.
SUMMER “ 🍺BEER REVIEW “ ——— MARKET GARDEN. “ SHANDY LAND “ SOME REAL GOOD SUMMER BEER s 👍🍺👍🍺
👍—- THANKS RAOUL ON NIANG INFO—- GAMBLE THAT DIDN T / HASNT / WONT PAY THE DIVIDENDS
agree that it didn’t/hasn’t/won’t, and pay is way more than he is worth. but in NBA logic, contracts are chips for making trades, so, ….
Niang highlight reel consists of a good shooting a couple times, and acting seriously tough (very short supply on Cavs) a couple times.
WONT BE ANY PLAYER s LEFT WORTH TAKING
It seems like Altman cannot walk & chew gum at the same time.
1. Head coach search
2. Draft
3. Mitchell extension
4. Coaching staff
5. Mobley extension
We’ll be ready to start FA & make some trades after that.
get real. this is being done exactly right:
aced items 1 – 4, working on 5.
there is no money and no room for FAs.
didn’t make any dumb trades.
grade: A+
you right
Nonsense.
We have our midlevel exception + another. We are not over the apron and have room.
Burks, Prince, & Monte Morris all signed for the VET MIN. SG/SF, F, PG right there. Theis, too, I believe ($2.8 mil). C help.
$8-9 mil landed Oubre, Fontecchio, and Caleb Martin.
That is all well within our price range.
We are the only team in the association that has not signed anyone, I believe.
for comparison, the Guardians have built a top team in MLB by only signing guys at the end who fell through the cracks. half the teams with a big splashy signing get worse.
In July… I’m not convinced what they’re doing is sustainable without more starting pitching. They got walopped today.
THANKS ARCH——- AS OF RIGHT NOW— I MIGHT PUT MAGIC AHEAD OF THE CAVS—— ANXIOUS TO SEE SUMMER LEAGUE—- IF ANY HELP MIGHT BE COMING OUR WAY——-NIANG SHOULD HAVE BEEN CUT / LEFT GO BY NOW
pretty sure Niang has a contract.
KCP is an improvement over Harris and they are deeper but iono: they were healthy last year and really inefficient on offense.
Niang has his uses as an innings eater and streak shooter but given what $8m is buying this off-season it’s a clear miss.
1. Boston
———–
2. NY
3. Philly
4. Milwaukee
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5. Indy
6. Cavs
7. Orlando
8. Miami
might move Philly and Milw down to the third group.
I’ll take us over Orlando and Indy.
I got Boston #1, Knicks #2, and the other six teams in any order.
but if the new coaching staff can figure out how to make the current players work, Cavs could be #2.
WHEN IS CAVS 1st SUMMER LEAGUE GAME ——— ARE THEY TELEVISED——- SAW A VIDEO OF EMONI “DRAINING “ 3’s 👍
I think it’s this Friday on NBATV.
no QA for I-Mobe:
https://cavaliersnation.com/2024/07/09/cavs-make-critical-decision-on-isaiah-mobleys-future/
Fedor says they are likely moving on, giving him a chance elsewhere, and like Pete Nance
and they should.
they were doing both of them kind of a “Cav’s Family” favor. If no one else is interested, we can resign them.
DAMIT—— I LIKE REED
POSSIBLY ICE s CONTRACT HOLDING THEM UP SOMEWHAT—- ALSO MIGHT WANT TO SEE HOW PLAYERS PERFORM IN SUMMER LEAGUE—CPJ / EMONI / BURNS —— WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM PURSUE REED OR ANOTHER SEASONED VET —— CAN SEE THEM HOLDING OFF UNTIL JANUARY—- NEW COACHING STAFF/ ETC BEFORE “ PULLING THE TRIGGER “ —— BAD PART —- OTHER TEAM s. KNICKS / 76ers / MAGIC / BUCKS HAVE IMPROVED—- WE SHALL SEE
Pistons claimed Reed off waivers today.
It looks as though the FO thinks the issues were nearly 100% JB. Continuity & new coaches.
Mitchell & Bates our only signings, and they were re-signings.
Okoro, TT, Morris, Jones, Nance, and elder Mobley all still FA’s.
Porter’s ankle still bothering him is a bummer.
Can’t disagree, but would add that Cavs were not in a great position to trade anyway. Standing pat is the right move, regardless of the fanbase’s desires.The coaching hires are effing amazing, and I can’t wait to see what fruit this bears.
agree. almost any trade would be a loser.
for example, the much talked about Caris LeVert and Jarrett Allen for Brandon Ingram is beyond ludicrous. maybe if the Pels throw in a dozen unrestricted FRP’s it might make sense.
I think it’s a mistake, but they could also be trying to build some player value before the trade deadline.
THANKS BUCKAROO
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kid can play.
if you go to shows, you can’t help but notice the post – Covid explosion of kids and bands that are really good.
https://hoopswire.com/nba-free-agents-news-top-ten-list/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook#2s2ovv56hsu
We are just gonna resign Cedi aren’t we?
Don’t hate it
MAYBE THEY PLAN ON PLAYING CARROLL 👍🤪👍🤪👍🤪
EMONI GOT SOME OF THE LBS THAT BURNS LOST ( 45) 👍🤪👍🤪👍🤪
Well, we are adding coaches if not players.
Bates +26 lbs since last years SL team.
good:
https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/miles-bridges-cleveland-cavaliers-speculations-can-be-laid-to-rest
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AGREE WITH NATE / MR STEAL——GET IT DONE KOBY 👍🏀